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Today's Topics:
1. Re: AMSAT-Francophone launches a consultation, open to all,
on the amateur satellite radio service. Feel free to participate!
Publi? le 3 f?vrier 2019 par Xtophe (Paul Stoetzer)
2. Re: Operating SSB sats (Stefan Wagener)
3. Re: AMSAT-Francophone launches a consultation, open to all,
on the amateur satellite radio service. Feel free to participate!
Publi? le 3 f?vrier 2019 par Xtophe (Paul Andrews)
4. Re: AMSAT-Francophone launches a consultation, open to all,
on the amateur satellite radio service. Feel free to participate!
Publi? le 3 f?vrier 2019 par Xtophe (Stefan Wagener)
5. Re: AMSAT-Francophone launches a consultation, open to all,
on the amateur satellite radio service. Feel free to participate!
Publi? le 3 f?vrier 2019 par Xtophe (JoAnne K9JKM)
6. Re: AMSAT-Francophone launches a consultation, open to all,
on the amateur satellite radio service. Feel free to participate!
Publi? le 3 f?vrier 2019 par Xtophe (Frank Karnauskas)
7. Re: AMSAT-Francophone launches a consultation, open to all,
on the amateur satellite radio service. Feel free to participate!
Publi? le 3 f?vrier 2019 par Xtophe (Jerry Buxton)
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2019 18:54:57 -0500
From: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@????.???>
To: sean fay <spatrickfay@?????.???>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AMSAT-Francophone launches a consultation,
open to all, on the amateur satellite radio service. Feel free to
participate! Publi? le 3 f?vrier 2019 par Xtophe
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I really doubt that "most of NA" holds this position.
Now, could a geostationary satellite get boring after a while? Sure.
The footprint never changes and once you get your setup perfected to
the point that you can hear the transponder noise floor, there aren't
too many challenges remaining. So, I think a satellite in a Molniya or
other HEO may be more interesting and would offer more DX
opportunities, but certainly an amateur transponder or satellite in
geostationary orbit is something AMSAT will continue to pursue (and
opportunities for other orbits, such as HEO, as well).
73,
Paul, N8HM
On Thu, Feb 7, 2019 at 6:43 PM sean fay <spatrickfay@?????.???> wrote:
>
> Hey man
>
> If you read through this BB you'll find that most of NA don't want a ham
> transponder on a geostationary sat covering North America because a GEOSAT
> is too easy, takes away the challenge, and the point of being a sat op is
> chasing a ghost in the sky and not just having something you can jump on
> any minute of every hour of every day. ?\_(?)_/? eehhh. I personally want
> to have to build a microwave transmitter and antenna to do this thing
>
> On Thu, Feb 7, 2019 at 5:23 PM John Brier <johnbrier@?????.???> wrote:
>
> > I just took it.
> >
> > I think it's a good idea to find out what the sat community likes
> > before you design a satellite that will be used/supported by the
> > community.
> >
> > My only concern is you didn't have a question about whether or not I
> > want a ham transponder on a geostationary sat covering North America.
> > ;-)
> >
> > 73, John Brier KG4AKV
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 7, 2019 at 5:30 PM christophe.mcr <christophe.mcr@?????.???>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Good evening Ron
> > >
> > > I'm adding your contribution to the survey data. If you want to add
more
> > > elements, send me your comments.
> > >
> > > To date we have already received more than 177 contributions (see
below).
> > > The results will be available for all AMSATs.
> > >
> > > During the "amateur space meetings" in France (9&10 March) , these
> > results
> > > will be shared and used for exchanges between participants, including
> > > satellite designers.
> > >
> > >
> > > 73
> > >
> > > Christophe
> > >
> > >
> > > Countrie/Number of response
> > > France 70
> > > United Kingdom 17
> > > United States 14
> > > Germany 11
> > > Poland 11
> > > Netherlands 9
> > > Belgium 6
> > > Canada 5
> > > Italy 5
> > > Spain 4
> > > Argentina 2
> > > Australia 2
> > > Austria 2
> > > Brazil 2
> > > Portugal 2
> > > Romania 2
> > > Sweden 2
> > > Switzerland 2
> > > Bulgaria 1
> > > Colombia 1
> > > Croatia 1
> > > Finland 1
> > > Greece 1
> > > Japan 1
> > > New Zealand 1
> > > Venezuela 1
> > > S?n?gal 1
> > >
> > >
> > > Le jeu. 7 f?vr. 2019 ? 02:46, Ron VE8RT <ve8rt@?????.??> a ?crit :
> > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > I completed the survey a couple of days back and in retrospect I
had
> > > > one other comment to make about the survey itself.
> > > >
> > > > In the section asking what bands or frequencies of operation I'd
> > > > used or was active on the last option was "not interested". I would
> > > > have liked to have had another option "interested but not equipped" or
> > > > something.
> > > >
> > > > Lastly I wanted to say that I appreciate the opportunity to take
the
> > > > survey and I am curious about whether the survey results will
influence
> > > > the design team.
> > > >
> > > > Ron VE8RT / FP5EK
> > > >
> > > > On Sun, 3 Feb 2019 15:03:54 +0100
> > > > "christophe.mcr" <christophe.mcr@?????.???> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Dear
> > > > >
> > > > > Satellite / nanosatellite project managers often wish to use amateur
> > > > radio
> > > > > frequencies for educational and outreach purposes. The amateur radio
> > > > > community thus offers them a tremendous potential for monitoring
> > their
> > > > > fragile conception. They often ask what kind of amateur radio
> > experience
> > > > > would be interesting to board a cubesat or what services they could
> > > > provide
> > > > > with their communications systems. The answer can be simple: a
> > > > transponder,
> > > > > but these designers would like to bring novelty and innovation.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- snipped the rest to keep it brief ---
> > > > --
> > > > Ron VE8RT <ve8rt@?????.??>
> > > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> > Opinions expressed
> > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> > AMSAT-NA.
> > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> > program!
> > > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> > expressed
> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> > AMSAT-NA.
> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> >
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2019 18:21:13 -0600
From: Stefan Wagener <wageners@?????.???>
To: James McIrvin <arsn1ipa@?????.???>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Operating SSB sats
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Hi Jim and others,
SatPC32 has a very nice feature to adjust the uplink frequency without
touching the radio. In the main window on the top (middle) you will see a
"Downlink" window that says "0", a field called Corr. (+/-) window that
also says "0" and "Uplink" next to it. By using the "+" and/or "-" key of
your keyboard you can change the uplink frequency in 10Hz steps which will
adjust your offset between uplink and downlink. You see the number change
within the window. By using these two keys going positive or negative you
can find yourself on the RX downlink frequency for initial setup without
ever touching the radio. One you have found yourself in the passband you
have a corrected offset for your location and satellite which you can store
later (recommended). Now whenever you "chase" someone on the downlink
because they are off, this offset will allow you to be right on with your
Tx. No need for "RIT"or anything else. You will maintain solid doppler
control specific for that linear satellite and you will hear yourself
immediately wherever you tune on the downlink. For more details, as always,
please refer to the SatPC32 manual :-)
Hope this helps,
Stefan
On Thu, Feb 7, 2019 at 3:40 PM James McIrvin <arsn1ipa@?????.???> wrote:
> Good afternoon everyone,
> I just did a full reset on my rig to take it back to factory settings. As
> mentioned above about the XIT and the RIT working together. No change
> after doing a full reset of the radio.
> So trying to tune with the rit and keep the same TX freq is not possible
> from what I can tell based on my observation.
> So I don't know if this is different when using a ICOM rig as compared to
> the Kenwood? I would think that you would be able to use them separately
> to adjust either one, however, with this I don't know what to do about
> trying to keep the correct TX and adjust my RX so that I sound correct or
> at least working with something that most would be able to hear without
> alot of tuning. I know that the doppler effects it all, just being able to
> set it and not have to constantly adjust with todays rigs I would have
> thought would be better then it is even for the age of the technology of
> this radio.
>
> Thoughts?
> Jim
>
> On Thu, Feb 7, 2019 at 7:40 AM James McIrvin <arsn1ipa@?????.???> wrote:
>
> > Good morning all,
> > One thing that I have noticed with trying to tune in a qso or even tune
> > myself so that I can even find myself on the downlink is not easy some
> > days. If I use the rit then sometimes I loose the other party on there
> or
> > they can not tune up to me very well. One thing that I have noticed
> > thinking about this if I turn the rit on and use that then turn the RIT
> off
> > and then try to tune the xmit freq I see that the XIT is also changed to
> > the same amount as the RIT control.
> > So having found this and trying to work with SatPC32 trying to tune using
> > the cat control section I am not having very good luck somedays getting
> > things tuned up. I don't try to do these at the same time, I work with
> one
> > or the other, just have not found a good happy medium yet for tuning in
> the
> > different ones.
> > Now I am thinking that I might want to reset all back to square one with
> > the radio again and see what happens with the RIT and XIT if they track
> > together or not if I do a full reset of the radio.
> > The rig is the TS2000X, it took sometime getting it to work with Satpc32
> > and now I know where I made the mistake on the basic setup so that I can
> > get things to a working point with the software for tracking again. Just
> > seeing that the RIT control and the XIT track together even thou they are
> > not on together that I know of when I try to work things.
> > This I only found this week. So any thoughts on this?
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
> > Jim
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 6, 2019 at 11:36 PM Mike Sprenger <mikesprenger@?????.???>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Great job
> >>
> >> Im going to contradict myself. Don?t use the RIT...(then maybe use the
> >> RIT)
> >>
> >> Hopefully your RIT is off when you adjust your uplink in Satpc32 to line
> >> up and match the pitch of your voice.
> >>
> >> If I find that I have tuned to someone calling CQ or in QSO - when i
> call
> >> them ??> if they move, yet I can understand, I will accept the pitch
> >> difference and NOT touch the main tuning dial for that round of the QSO
> so
> >> things stay constant for the other station
> >>
> >> If we go another QSO round and things are still about the same amount of
> >> frequency offset, I?ll just compensate slightly with my RIT.
> >>
> >> If you?re within 300hz I?d say you?re doing well, and touching up with
> >> RIT is well within reason.
> >>
> >> Like drew suggests- carry on.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Mike
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >> > On Feb 6, 2019, at 2:01 PM, Andrew Glasbrenner <
> >> glasbrenner@??????????.???> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > So just diddle the RIT a little and carry on?
> >> >
> >> > 73, Drew KO4MA
> >> >
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb-bounces@?????.???> On Behalf Of Stephen E.
> >> Belter
> >> > Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2019 1:43 PM
> >> > To: k6vug@?????????.???
> >> > Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>; Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@????.???>
> >> > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Operating SSB sats
> >> >
> >> > Just my guess: If you?re tuning so that you sound good to yourself,
> >> you may sound a little high (or low) to someone else. Also, since most
> >> people you?re operating don?t know what you sound like in person (James
> >> Earle Jones or Pee Wee Hermon).
> >> >
> >> > You can check your tuning by sending a tone and zero-bearing with the
> >> received tone.
> >> >
> >> > Or experiment with adjusting your received signal so that you?re a
> >> little low (or high) with what sounds best to you. Then see if you?re
> >> still chasing each other up (or down) the band.
> >> >
> >> > 73, Steve N9IP
> >> > --
> >> > Steve Belter, seb@??????.???
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> On Feb 6, 2019, at 1:31 PM, "k6vug@?????????.???? <
> k6vug@?????????.???>
> >> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> That is exactly right, with the fully computer controlled setup I can
> >> move the downlink (RX) up and down the pass band looking for callers and
> >> not have to touch the TX frequency as it is managed by the software and
> can
> >> hear my own voice with a steady tone quite well.
> >> >> - Umesh
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On Wednesday, February 6, 2019, 9:44:56 AM PST, Paul Stoetzer <
> >> n8hm@????.???> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Umesh,
> >> >> If you can tune around and always hear your own downlink on the
> >> correct frequency, then you are doing everything right.
> >> >> 73,
> >> >> Paul, N8HM
> >> >> On Wed, Feb 6, 2019 at 12:42 PM k6vug@?????????.??? <
> >> k6vug@?????????.???> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Good Morning All,
> >> >> I'd like to understand something that seems to be happening with SSB
> >> birds.
> >> >>
> >> >> I realize that they are two kinds of operators - one that has a
> >> >> computer controlled station and one that tunes manually, and I
> respect
> >> >> both types. The following observation is about two computer
> >> >> controlled stations working via a SSB satellite -
> >> >>
> >> >> (a) My station is computer controlled (SatPC32 or HRD) and can hear
> >> myself on the downlink throughout the pass. I can also go up or down
> the
> >> pass band and still hear myself without needing to retune the uplink.
> It
> >> is pretty rock solid, almost like HF operation.
> >> >>
> >> >> (b) Sometimes I hear a station calling CQ and it remains on the same
> >> frequency during successive CQs, so I'm guessing their station is also
> >> computer controlled. I can tune in and stay on their calling frequency.
> >> >>
> >> >> (c) However, when I can respond, it seems they have to tune their
> >> downlink a bit to hear me well. So when they come back to my response,
> >> they are a bit off-frequency (about 300Hz) and sound like Mickey Mouse,
> >> until I retune the downlink to hear them well again. This keeps
> happening
> >> throughout the QSO.
> >> >>
> >> >> (d) This "drifting" happens only with some stations calling CQ and
> not
> >> everyone.
> >> >>
> >> >> Considering both stations are computer controlled at each end, I'm
> >> trying to understand if I'm doing anything wrong/incorrect. Learning to
> >> operate SSB sats has been humbling as well as exciting, I'd appreciate
> any
> >> pointers for this situation. Thanks in advance.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> 73!
> >> >> Umesh
> >> >> k6vug
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> _______________________________________________
> >> >> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum
> available
> >> >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> >> >> Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect
> >> the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> >> >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> >> program!
> >> >> Subscription settings:
> http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> _______________________________________________
> >> >> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum
> available
> >> >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> >> >> Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect
> >> the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> >> >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> >> program!
> >> >> Subscription settings:
> http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> >> > _______________________________________________
> >> > Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions
> >> expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the
> official
> >> views of AMSAT-NA.
> >> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> >> program!
> >> > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> >> >
> >> > _______________________________________________
> >> > Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> >> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> >> Opinions expressed
> >> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
> >> of AMSAT-NA.
> >> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> >> program!
> >> > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> >> Opinions expressed
> >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> >> AMSAT-NA.
> >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
> >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> >>
> >
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2019 19:27:33 -0500
From: Paul Andrews <w2hro.fn20@?????.???>
To: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@????.???>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AMSAT-Francophone launches a consultation,
open to all, on the amateur satellite radio service. Feel free to
participate! Publi? le 3 f?vrier 2019 par Xtophe
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An amateur GEOSAT payload could cover the entire western hemisphere
and provide reliable amateur connectivity from Antartica to Greenland
and West Africa to Hawaii.
100% of amateur radio doesn't need to be difficult. If that was the
case, turn off the repeaters. Amateur radio is about developing
technical and operating skills to make reliable communications in
difficult and easy condition.
I could think of 100's of valuable uses for the GEOSAT. I think it
would be awesome.
73 - Paul - W2HRO
On Thu, Feb 7, 2019 at 7:05 PM Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@????.???> wrote:
>
> I really doubt that "most of NA" holds this position.
>
> Now, could a geostationary satellite get boring after a while? Sure.
> The footprint never changes and once you get your setup perfected to
> the point that you can hear the transponder noise floor, there aren't
> too many challenges remaining. So, I think a satellite in a Molniya or
> other HEO may be more interesting and would offer more DX
> opportunities, but certainly an amateur transponder or satellite in
> geostationary orbit is something AMSAT will continue to pursue (and
> opportunities for other orbits, such as HEO, as well).
>
> 73,
>
> Paul, N8HM
>
> On Thu, Feb 7, 2019 at 6:43 PM sean fay <spatrickfay@?????.???> wrote:
> >
> > Hey man
> >
> > If you read through this BB you'll find that most of NA don't want a ham
> > transponder on a geostationary sat covering North America because a GEOSAT
> > is too easy, takes away the challenge, and the point of being a sat op is
> > chasing a ghost in the sky and not just having something you can jump on
> > any minute of every hour of every day. ?\_(?)_/? eehhh. I personally
want
> > to have to build a microwave transmitter and antenna to do this thing
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 7, 2019 at 5:23 PM John Brier <johnbrier@?????.???> wrote:
> >
> > > I just took it.
> > >
> > > I think it's a good idea to find out what the sat community likes
> > > before you design a satellite that will be used/supported by the
> > > community.
> > >
> > > My only concern is you didn't have a question about whether or not I
> > > want a ham transponder on a geostationary sat covering North America.
> > > ;-)
> > >
> > > 73, John Brier KG4AKV
> > >
> > > On Thu, Feb 7, 2019 at 5:30 PM christophe.mcr <christophe.mcr@?????.???>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Good evening Ron
> > > >
> > > > I'm adding your contribution to the survey data. If you want to add
more
> > > > elements, send me your comments.
> > > >
> > > > To date we have already received more than 177 contributions (see
below).
> > > > The results will be available for all AMSATs.
> > > >
> > > > During the "amateur space meetings" in France (9&10 March) , these
> > > results
> > > > will be shared and used for exchanges between participants, including
> > > > satellite designers.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 73
> > > >
> > > > Christophe
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Countrie/Number of response
> > > > France 70
> > > > United Kingdom 17
> > > > United States 14
> > > > Germany 11
> > > > Poland 11
> > > > Netherlands 9
> > > > Belgium 6
> > > > Canada 5
> > > > Italy 5
> > > > Spain 4
> > > > Argentina 2
> > > > Australia 2
> > > > Austria 2
> > > > Brazil 2
> > > > Portugal 2
> > > > Romania 2
> > > > Sweden 2
> > > > Switzerland 2
> > > > Bulgaria 1
> > > > Colombia 1
> > > > Croatia 1
> > > > Finland 1
> > > > Greece 1
> > > > Japan 1
> > > > New Zealand 1
> > > > Venezuela 1
> > > > S?n?gal 1
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Le jeu. 7 f?vr. 2019 ? 02:46, Ron VE8RT <ve8rt@?????.??> a ?crit :
> > > >
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > I completed the survey a couple of days back and in retrospect
I had
> > > > > one other comment to make about the survey itself.
> > > > >
> > > > > In the section asking what bands or frequencies of operation I'd
> > > > > used or was active on the last option was "not interested". I would
> > > > > have liked to have had another option "interested but not
equipped" or
> > > > > something.
> > > > >
> > > > > Lastly I wanted to say that I appreciate the opportunity to
take the
> > > > > survey and I am curious about whether the survey results will
influence
> > > > > the design team.
> > > > >
> > > > > Ron VE8RT / FP5EK
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sun, 3 Feb 2019 15:03:54 +0100
> > > > > "christophe.mcr" <christophe.mcr@?????.???> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Dear
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Satellite / nanosatellite project managers often wish to use
amateur
> > > > > radio
> > > > > > frequencies for educational and outreach purposes. The amateur
radio
> > > > > > community thus offers them a tremendous potential for monitoring
> > > their
> > > > > > fragile conception. They often ask what kind of amateur radio
> > > experience
> > > > > > would be interesting to board a cubesat or what services they
could
> > > > > provide
> > > > > > with their communications systems. The answer can be simple: a
> > > > > transponder,
> > > > > > but these designers would like to bring novelty and innovation.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- snipped the rest to keep it brief ---
> > > > > --
> > > > > Ron VE8RT <ve8rt@?????.??>
> > > > >
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2019 18:32:34 -0600
From: Stefan Wagener <wageners@?????.???>
To: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@????.???>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AMSAT-Francophone launches a consultation,
open to all, on the amateur satellite radio service. Feel free to
participate! Publi? le 3 f?vrier 2019 par Xtophe
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Thanks Paul,
I totally agree. A geostationary sat would open new opportunities for
experimentation on many fronts. I would be very happy if I could be working
in the microwave bands, on transverters, antennas, LNBs etc. I guess we
will see how successful this approach will be on the other side of the
globe with Es?hail-2. Certainly will monitor downlinks via remote stations
and watch the traffic etc. I am very glad that AMSAT-NA is pursuing this
and will fully support it.
73, Stefan, VE4NSA
On Thu, Feb 7, 2019 at 6:04 PM Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@????.???> wrote:
> I really doubt that "most of NA" holds this position.
>
> Now, could a geostationary satellite get boring after a while? Sure.
> The footprint never changes and once you get your setup perfected to
> the point that you can hear the transponder noise floor, there aren't
> too many challenges remaining. So, I think a satellite in a Molniya or
> other HEO may be more interesting and would offer more DX
> opportunities, but certainly an amateur transponder or satellite in
> geostationary orbit is something AMSAT will continue to pursue (and
> opportunities for other orbits, such as HEO, as well).
>
> 73,
>
> Paul, N8HM
>
> On Thu, Feb 7, 2019 at 6:43 PM sean fay <spatrickfay@?????.???> wrote:
> >
> > Hey man
> >
> > If you read through this BB you'll find that most of NA don't want a ham
> > transponder on a geostationary sat covering North America because a
> GEOSAT
> > is too easy, takes away the challenge, and the point of being a sat op is
> > chasing a ghost in the sky and not just having something you can jump on
> > any minute of every hour of every day. ?\_(?)_/? eehhh. I personally
> want
> > to have to build a microwave transmitter and antenna to do this thing
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 7, 2019 at 5:23 PM John Brier <johnbrier@?????.???> wrote:
> >
> > > I just took it.
> > >
> > > I think it's a good idea to find out what the sat community likes
> > > before you design a satellite that will be used/supported by the
> > > community.
> > >
> > > My only concern is you didn't have a question about whether or not I
> > > want a ham transponder on a geostationary sat covering North America.
> > > ;-)
> > >
> > > 73, John Brier KG4AKV
> > >
> > > On Thu, Feb 7, 2019 at 5:30 PM christophe.mcr <
> christophe.mcr@?????.???>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Good evening Ron
> > > >
> > > > I'm adding your contribution to the survey data. If you want to add
> more
> > > > elements, send me your comments.
> > > >
> > > > To date we have already received more than 177 contributions (see
> below).
> > > > The results will be available for all AMSATs.
> > > >
> > > > During the "amateur space meetings" in France (9&10 March) , these
> > > results
> > > > will be shared and used for exchanges between participants, including
> > > > satellite designers.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 73
> > > >
> > > > Christophe
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Countrie/Number of response
> > > > France 70
> > > > United Kingdom 17
> > > > United States 14
> > > > Germany 11
> > > > Poland 11
> > > > Netherlands 9
> > > > Belgium 6
> > > > Canada 5
> > > > Italy 5
> > > > Spain 4
> > > > Argentina 2
> > > > Australia 2
> > > > Austria 2
> > > > Brazil 2
> > > > Portugal 2
> > > > Romania 2
> > > > Sweden 2
> > > > Switzerland 2
> > > > Bulgaria 1
> > > > Colombia 1
> > > > Croatia 1
> > > > Finland 1
> > > > Greece 1
> > > > Japan 1
> > > > New Zealand 1
> > > > Venezuela 1
> > > > S?n?gal 1
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Le jeu. 7 f?vr. 2019 ? 02:46, Ron VE8RT <ve8rt@?????.??> a ?crit :
> > > >
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > I completed the survey a couple of days back and in retrospect
> I had
> > > > > one other comment to make about the survey itself.
> > > > >
> > > > > In the section asking what bands or frequencies of operation I'd
> > > > > used or was active on the last option was "not interested". I
> would
> > > > > have liked to have had another option "interested but not
> equipped" or
> > > > > something.
> > > > >
> > > > > Lastly I wanted to say that I appreciate the opportunity to
> take the
> > > > > survey and I am curious about whether the survey results will
> influence
> > > > > the design team.
> > > > >
> > > > > Ron VE8RT / FP5EK
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sun, 3 Feb 2019 15:03:54 +0100
> > > > > "christophe.mcr" <christophe.mcr@?????.???> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Dear
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Satellite / nanosatellite project managers often wish to use
> amateur
> > > > > radio
> > > > > > frequencies for educational and outreach purposes. The amateur
> radio
> > > > > > community thus offers them a tremendous potential for monitoring
> > > their
> > > > > > fragile conception. They often ask what kind of amateur radio
> > > experience
> > > > > > would be interesting to board a cubesat or what services they
> could
> > > > > provide
> > > > > > with their communications systems. The answer can be simple: a
> > > > > transponder,
> > > > > > but these designers would like to bring novelty and innovation.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- snipped the rest to keep it brief ---
> > > > > --
> > > > > Ron VE8RT <ve8rt@?????.??>
> > > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
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> available
> > > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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> > > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official
> views of
> > > AMSAT-NA.
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2019 19:09:06 -0600
From: "JoAnne K9JKM" <joanne.k9jkm@?????.???>
To: <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AMSAT-Francophone launches a consultation,
open to all, on the amateur satellite radio service. Feel free to
participate! Publi? le 3 f?vrier 2019 par Xtophe
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Hmmm, where to begin when so much opportunity is afoot?
> ... If I don't have a really good reason to put together a complex and
> expensive microwave station, I probably won't do it
Yes, a 10 GHz downlink can be converted into a range of frequencies covered
with an off-the-shelf SDR for $100-$200. I'll admit that a microwave
transmitter is more costly (for the present time) but $100 and some
ingenuity to participate in one of amateur radio's next frontiers is likely
within reach!
Work all the grid squares, all the states, bag all the DX? I see an
opportunity to make so many more friends and earn so much wall paper you'll
be considering building another wall in the shack so you can display all the
certificates ;-) And, you'll still be able to hear that the XYL wants to go
to the store, the dog wants out, and you had a really good hot dog for lunch
... oh, behave!
Heaven forbid, I gotta learn something new?
What if a GEO presented an opportunity for multiple high-definition
channels. The proposed DVB-S on a hamsat could bring us ...
+ A channel for every ham radio podcast and ham radio video cast
we know of ... on demand, sans Comcast, or AT&T?
+ ARRL on line?
+ Licensing classes on demand?
+ Self learning for everything we could think of or aspire to produce?
+ AMSAT meetings and nets in real time?
+ The next time an entire island gets wiped out by a hurricane real-time
delivery of the ground-truth to FEMA in HD quality?
+ FEMA's ICS training on-demand?
+ Access some of the above with your 145/440 MHz HT via terrestrial gateways?
+ Everything ARISS does we'd have a channel?
+ Good stuff on NASA TV, ariannespace.com, spacex.com ... maybe we could
watch?
I'm excited ... and, I'm hoping my friends will be able to fill in all the
features yet to be named!
--
73 de JoAnne K9JKM
k9jkm@?????.???
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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2019 19:13:58 -0700
From: "Frank Karnauskas" <n1uw@???????.???>
To: <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AMSAT-Francophone launches a consultation,
open to all, on the amateur satellite radio service. Feel free to
participate! Publi? le 3 f?vrier 2019 par Xtophe
Message-ID: <003001d4bf53$f3d2b450$db781cf0$@???????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Remember,
We have no problems...only insurmountable opportunities.
73,
Frank N1UW
-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@?????.???? On Behalf Of JoAnne
K9JKM
Sent: Thursday, February 7, 2019 6:09 PM
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AMSAT-Francophone launches a consultation,
open to all, on the amateur satellite radio service. Feel free to
participate! Publi? le 3 f?vrier 2019 par Xtophe
Hmmm, where to begin when so much opportunity is afoot?
> ... If I don't have a really good reason to put together a complex
and
> expensive microwave station, I probably won't do it
Yes, a 10 GHz downlink can be converted into a range of frequencies
covered with an off-the-shelf SDR for $100-$200. I'll admit that a
microwave transmitter is more costly (for the present time) but $100
and some ingenuity to participate in one of amateur radio's next
frontiers is likely within reach!
Work all the grid squares, all the states, bag all the DX? I see an
opportunity to make so many more friends and earn so much wall paper
you'll be considering building another wall in the shack so you can
display all the certificates ;-) And, you'll still be able to hear
that the XYL wants to go to the store, the dog wants out, and you had
a really good hot dog for lunch ... oh, behave!
Heaven forbid, I gotta learn something new?
What if a GEO presented an opportunity for multiple high-definition
channels. The proposed DVB-S on a hamsat could bring us ...
+ A channel for every ham radio podcast and ham radio video cast
we know of ... on demand, sans Comcast, or AT&T?
+ ARRL on line?
+ Licensing classes on demand?
+ Self learning for everything we could think of or aspire to produce?
+ AMSAT meetings and nets in real time?
+ The next time an entire island gets wiped out by a hurricane
real-time
delivery of the ground-truth to FEMA in HD quality?
+ FEMA's ICS training on-demand?
+ Access some of the above with your 145/440 MHz HT via terrestrial
gateways?
+ Everything ARISS does we'd have a channel?
+ Good stuff on NASA TV, ariannespace.com, spacex.com ... maybe we
could watch?
I'm excited ... and, I'm hoping my friends will be able to fill in all
the features yet to be named!
--
73 de JoAnne K9JKM
k9jkm@?????.???
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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2019 21:46:12 -0600
From: Jerry Buxton <n0jy@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AMSAT-Francophone launches a consultation,
open to all, on the amateur satellite radio service. Feel free to
participate! Publi? le 3 f?vrier 2019 par Xtophe
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On 2/7/2019 17:22, John Brier wrote:
> I think it's a good idea to find out what the sat community likes
> before you design a satellite that will be used/supported by the
> community.
It would be exciting to see a satellite with operations "designed by the
user".? The diverse opinions on favorite uses presents a challenge in
meeting many or choosing the right few in order to please the most, of
course.? Perhaps the bottom line, as John suggested "will be
used/supported by the community", would be survey respondents willing to
commit to contributions that would pay for the entire project in order
to make your favorite operations become a reality.
Jerry Buxton, N?JY
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