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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: 5 Band VUCC Award (Les Rayburn)
   2. Re: 5 Band VUCC Award (Bryan KL7CN)
   3. AISAT Downlink Issues -- Expected Behavior (KE6BLR Robert)
   4. Re: 5 Band VUCC Award (Sean Waite)
   5. Re: 5 Band VUCC Award (Gabriel Zeifman)
   6. Re: [VHF] 5 Band VUCC Award (David Kerl)
   7. Rethink -- Re:  5 Band VUCC Award (Ev Tupis)
   8. Cushcraft 416-TB Oscar Satellite Boomer Antenna System
      (David Mossor)
   9. Re: [VHF]  5 Band VUCC Award (Donald M. Ross)
  10. Re: 5 Band VUCC Award (Paul Stoetzer)


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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2019 01:10:53 -0500
From: Les Rayburn <les@????????????.???>
To: Gabriel Zeifman <gabrielzeifman@?????.???>
Cc: Greg Sarratt W4OZK <w4ozk@????.???>,	"vhf@????.????????.????
<vhf@????.????????.???>,	AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>, W3IZ@????.????
VHF Contesting Reflector <vhfcontesting@??????????.???>,	"Taratula,
Sharon" <staratula@????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] 5 Band VUCC Award
Message-ID: <4A817A59-47B7-4C2F-8F33-C6F85FE66614@????????????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset=utf-8


Gabe,

Excellent, and I mean excellent point. It?s high time the ARRL did something
to recognize rovers when it comes to VUCC.

BTW, I need Alaska on satellite! :-)

Thanks for all the roving you do. Those of us at home are grateful more than
you can know.


73,

Les Rayburn, N1LF
Maylene, AL
EM63nf
AMSAT #38965, ARRL Life Member, CVHS Life Member, SVHF Member




> On Apr 22, 2019, at 12:18 AM, Gabriel Zeifman <gabrielzeifman@?????.???>
wrote:
>
> I?d personally be much more interested if there was a similar award for
rovers. I think a lot of the work rovers do is overlooked while the guys who
sit at home are ?honored?.
>
> 73,
> Gabe
> AL6D/VE6NJH the insane guy who flies a Cessna 150 around Alaska and driven
about 80,000 miles in three years to activate grids
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 21, 2019 at 6:50 PM Les Rayburn via AMSAT-BB
<amsat-bb@?????.??? <mailto:amsat-bb@?????.???>> wrote:
> Lady & Gentlemen,
>
> Not certain if my earlier message was received. No reply from anyone on
the distribution list. Here it is again, in case the first one was lost in
cyberspace.
>
> In an effort to stimulate activity on VHF/UHF bands beyond 70 CM, I?d like
to suggest the creation of a Five Band VUCC (5B VUCC) award that would
closely mirror the 5 Band DXCC Award.
>
> Successful applicants would need to achieve VUCC status on five or more of
the VHF/UHF bands to be eligible for the larger award. A special certificate
and pin could be created to honor recipients.
>
> My feeling is that this award would encourage greater activity on the
VHF/UHF bands, especially on bands that have less use like 222, 1296, and
higher microwave bands. This increased activity encourages the sale of more
gear, helps protect our spectrum from commercial interests, and advances the
state of the radio art.
>
> Please let me know if you think this idea has any merit, or what I could
do to help support the creation of the new award. As always, grateful for
your service to the hobby.
>
>
>
> 73,
>
> Les Rayburn, N1LF
> 121 Mayfair Park
> Maylene, AL 35114
> EM63nf
> AMSAT #38965, ARRL Life Member, CVHS Life Member, SVHF Member
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.??? <mailto:AMSAT-BB@?????.???>. AMSAT-NA makes
this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
<https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb>



------------------------------

Message: 2
Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2019 23:22:50 -0700
From: Bryan KL7CN <bryan@?????.???>
To: Les Rayburn <les@????????????.???>
Cc: "Taratula, Sharon" <staratula@????.???>,	"vhf@????.????????.????
<vhf@????.????????.???>,	AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>, W3IZ@????.????
VHF Contesting Reflector <vhfcontesting@??????????.???>,	Greg Sarratt
W4OZK <w4ozk@????.???>,	Gabriel Zeifman <gabrielzeifman@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] 5 Band VUCC Award
Message-ID: <4ABD2399-0D28-47DD-A18C-4BAF72796C4E@?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset=utf-8

+1 from me for the ARRL-sponsored roving awards -- Reverse VUCC,  for
instance, or a Activated Grids award similar to VUCC with a starting point
of, say, 5 grids with stickers every 5 after leading up to VUCC/R. It would
also be nice for there to be a Satellite 488 sponsored by the league.

Well done on the concept!

-- bag

Bryan KL7CN/W6
Location: CM98, usually
E-Mail: bryan@?????.???
Telephone/SMS: 408-836-7279

> On Apr 21, 2019, at 23:10, Les Rayburn via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
wrote:
>
>
> Gabe,
>
> Excellent, and I mean excellent point. It?s high time the ARRL did
something to recognize rovers when it comes to VUCC.
>
> BTW, I need Alaska on satellite! :-)
>
> Thanks for all the roving you do. Those of us at home are grateful more
than you can know.
>
>
> 73,
>
> Les Rayburn, N1LF
> Maylene, AL
> EM63nf
> AMSAT #38965, ARRL Life Member, CVHS Life Member, SVHF Member
>
>
>
>
>> On Apr 22, 2019, at 12:18 AM, Gabriel Zeifman <gabrielzeifman@?????.???>
wrote:
>>
>> I?d personally be much more interested if there was a similar award for
rovers. I think a lot of the work rovers do is overlooked while the guys who
sit at home are ?honored?.
>>
>> 73,
>> Gabe
>> AL6D/VE6NJH the insane guy who flies a Cessna 150 around Alaska and
driven about 80,000 miles in three years to activate grids
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 21, 2019 at 6:50 PM Les Rayburn via AMSAT-BB
<amsat-bb@?????.??? <mailto:amsat-bb@?????.???>> wrote:
>> Lady & Gentlemen,
>>
>> Not certain if my earlier message was received. No reply from anyone on
the distribution list. Here it is again, in case the first one was lost in
cyberspace.
>>
>> In an effort to stimulate activity on VHF/UHF bands beyond 70 CM, I?d
like to suggest the creation of a Five Band VUCC (5B VUCC) award that would
closely mirror the 5 Band DXCC Award.
>>
>> Successful applicants would need to achieve VUCC status on five or more
of the VHF/UHF bands to be eligible for the larger award. A special
certificate and pin could be created to honor recipients.
>>
>> My feeling is that this award would encourage greater activity on the
VHF/UHF bands, especially on bands that have less use like 222, 1296, and
higher microwave bands. This increased activity encourages the sale of more
gear, helps protect our spectrum from commercial interests, and advances the
state of the radio art.
>>
>> Please let me know if you think this idea has any merit, or what I could
do to help support the creation of the new award. As always, grateful for
your service to the hobby.
>>
>>
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Les Rayburn, N1LF
>> 121 Mayfair Park
>> Maylene, AL 35114
>> EM63nf
>> AMSAT #38965, ARRL Life Member, CVHS Life Member, SVHF Member
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.??? <mailto:AMSAT-BB@?????.???>. AMSAT-NA makes
this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
Opinions expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
<https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb






------------------------------

Message: 3
Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2019 20:15:06 -0700
From: KE6BLR Robert <ke6blr.robert@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] AISAT Downlink Issues -- Expected Behavior
Message-ID:
<CABaTVVZEReivu9wO925=P9ebf-G4-PZOYi6Gv0eyj4W-qxbKhg@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

As a followup to the earlier thread, I wrote a simple Python script that
provides the actual behavior side-by-side the expected behavior. Notice
this contains only 22 bytes in the Digipath compared to 29 bytes in the
actual Digipath. This is due to removing the extra blank field at the end
of the actual Digipath.

1: byteAsInt: 0, byteAsChar: , byteAsBits: 0b0, byteAsIntFixed: 0,
byteAsCharFixed: , byteAsBitsFixed: 0b0
2: byteAsInt: 134, byteAsChar: C, byteAsBits: 0b10000110, byteAsIntFixed:
134, byteAsCharFixed: C, byteAsBitsFixed: 0b10000110
3: byteAsInt: 162, byteAsChar: Q, byteAsBits: 0b10100010, byteAsIntFixed:
162, byteAsCharFixed: Q, byteAsBitsFixed: 0b10100010
4: byteAsInt: 64, byteAsChar:  , byteAsBits: 0b1000000, byteAsIntFixed: 64,
byteAsCharFixed:  , byteAsBitsFixed: 0b1000000
5: byteAsInt: 64, byteAsChar:  , byteAsBits: 0b1000000, byteAsIntFixed: 64,
byteAsCharFixed:  , byteAsBitsFixed: 0b1000000
6: byteAsInt: 64, byteAsChar:  , byteAsBits: 0b1000000, byteAsIntFixed: 64,
byteAsCharFixed:  , byteAsBitsFixed: 0b1000000
7: byteAsInt: 64, byteAsChar:  , byteAsBits: 0b1000000, byteAsIntFixed: 64,
byteAsCharFixed:  , byteAsBitsFixed: 0b1000000
8: byteAsInt: 96, byteAsChar: 0, byteAsBits: 0b1100000, byteAsIntFixed: 0,
byteAsCharFixed: 0, byteAsBitsFixed: 0b0
9: byteAsInt: 150, byteAsChar: K, byteAsBits: 0b10010110, byteAsIntFixed:
150, byteAsCharFixed: K, byteAsBitsFixed: 0b10010110
10: byteAsInt: 104, byteAsChar: 4, byteAsBits: 0b1101000, byteAsIntFixed:
104, byteAsCharFixed: 4, byteAsBitsFixed: 0b1101000
11: byteAsInt: 150, byteAsChar: K, byteAsBits: 0b10010110, byteAsIntFixed:
150, byteAsCharFixed: K, byteAsBitsFixed: 0b10010110
12: byteAsInt: 136, byteAsChar: D, byteAsBits: 0b10001000, byteAsIntFixed:
136, byteAsCharFixed: D, byteAsBitsFixed: 0b10001000
13: byteAsInt: 164, byteAsChar: R, byteAsBits: 0b10100100, byteAsIntFixed:
164, byteAsCharFixed: R, byteAsBitsFixed: 0b10100100
14: byteAsInt: 64, byteAsChar:  , byteAsBits: 0b1000000, byteAsIntFixed:
64, byteAsCharFixed:  , byteAsBitsFixed: 0b1000000
15: byteAsInt: 108, byteAsChar: 6, byteAsBits: 0b1101100, byteAsIntFixed:
12, byteAsCharFixed: 6, byteAsBitsFixed: 0b1100
16: byteAsInt: 130, byteAsChar: A, byteAsBits: 0b10000010, byteAsIntFixed:
130, byteAsCharFixed: A, byteAsBitsFixed: 0b10000010
17: byteAsInt: 146, byteAsChar: I, byteAsBits: 0b10010010, byteAsIntFixed:
146, byteAsCharFixed: I, byteAsBitsFixed: 0b10010010
18: byteAsInt: 166, byteAsChar: S, byteAsBits: 0b10100110, byteAsIntFixed:
166, byteAsCharFixed: S, byteAsBitsFixed: 0b10100110
19: byteAsInt: 130, byteAsChar: A, byteAsBits: 0b10000010, byteAsIntFixed:
130, byteAsCharFixed: A, byteAsBitsFixed: 0b10000010
20: byteAsInt: 168, byteAsChar: T, byteAsBits: 0b10101000, byteAsIntFixed:
168, byteAsCharFixed: T, byteAsBitsFixed: 0b10101000
21: byteAsInt: 84, byteAsChar: *, byteAsBits: 0b1010100, byteAsIntFixed:
64, byteAsCharFixed:  , byteAsBitsFixed: 0b1000000
22: byteAsInt: 96, byteAsChar: 0, byteAsBits: 0b1100000, byteAsIntFixed:
129, byteAsCharFixed: 0, byteAsBitsFixed: 0b10000001
robertmachale@??????????????????????? ~/Documents/SCC/AISAT-EXPLAIN $

Notice bytes 8, 15, and 22 should be treated as SubFields where the SSID
occupies 4 bits rather than a fill ASCII single digit number.

Notice byte 21 should be a space because byte 22 in bit position 7 contains
the Digipeated "H" bit.

Byte 22 in bit position 0 should contain the "Dnd of Digipath" bit.

Let me know your feedback and how I can help.

73s

Robert


------------------------------

Message: 4
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2019 00:36:55 -0400
From: Sean Waite <waisean@?????.???>
To: Michelle Thompson <mountain.michelle@?????.???>
Cc: "Taratula, Sharon" <staratula@????.???>,	VHF Reflector
<VHF@????.????????.???>,	NEWS <newsvhf@???????.???.???>,
W3IZ@????.???????? Rayburn <les@????????????.???>, AMSAT BB
<amsat-bb@?????.???>,	Rochester VHF Group
<rvhfg_general@???????????.???>,	VHF Contesting
<vhfcontesting@??????????.???>,	Greg Sarratt W4OZK <w4ozk@????.???>,
PackRats-Members <packrats@???????.???.???>,	Ontario VHF Reflector
<ontvhfassoc_reflector@???????????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] 5 Band VUCC Award
Message-ID:
<CAGz_XJyb7SLb9Zkh55yMUo=EnTdihbcKnFWi9Us6pR+Y9RLRxw@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

Interesting. I'll also spread it to a few lists. The VHF Superconference 2
is happening soon and may be a good place to talk about this.

73,
Sean WA1TE

On Mon, Apr 22, 2019, 00:29 Michelle Thompson via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:

> Intrigued! I'll share this with the local microwave contesting group (San
> Diego/LA) and try and get you some feedback.
>
> I'm in favor of any increase in microwave band contests.
>
> -Michelle W5NYV
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 21, 2019 at 7:51 PM Les Rayburn via AMSAT-BB <
> amsat-bb@?????.???>
> wrote:
>
> > Lady & Gentlemen,
> >
> > Not certain if my earlier message was received. No reply from anyone on
> > the distribution list. Here it is again, in case the first one was lost
> in
> > cyberspace.
> >
> > In an effort to stimulate activity on VHF/UHF bands beyond 70 CM, I?d
> like
> > to suggest the creation of a Five Band VUCC (5B VUCC) award that would
> > closely mirror the 5 Band DXCC Award.
> >
> > Successful applicants would need to achieve VUCC status on five or more
> of
> > the VHF/UHF bands to be eligible for the larger award. A special
> > certificate and pin could be created to honor recipients.
> >
> > My feeling is that this award would encourage greater activity on the
> > VHF/UHF bands, especially on bands that have less use like 222, 1296, and
> > higher microwave bands. This increased activity encourages the sale of
> more
> > gear, helps protect our spectrum from commercial interests, and advances
> > the state of the radio art.
> >
> > Please let me know if you think this idea has any merit, or what I could
> > do to help support the creation of the new award. As always, grateful for
> > your service to the hobby.
> >
> >
> >
> > 73,
> >
> > Les Rayburn, N1LF
> > 121 Mayfair Park
> > Maylene, AL 35114
> > EM63nf
> > AMSAT #38965, ARRL Life Member, CVHS Life Member, SVHF Member
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions
> > expressed
> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> > AMSAT-NA.
> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
> > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> >
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>


------------------------------

Message: 5
Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2019 21:18:51 -0800
From: Gabriel Zeifman <gabrielzeifman@?????.???>
To: Les Rayburn <les@????????????.???>
Cc: Greg Sarratt W4OZK <w4ozk@????.???>,	"vhf@????.????????.????
<vhf@????.????????.???>,	AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>, W3IZ@????.????
VHF Contesting Reflector <vhfcontesting@??????????.???>,	"Taratula,
Sharon" <staratula@????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] 5 Band VUCC Award
Message-ID:
<CAEGYLCvr0SRWDrDzRB3jn+8AM_YUy2S=yCE9jydtHN8brum4Sg@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

I?d personally be much more interested if there was a similar award for
rovers. I think a lot of the work rovers do is overlooked while the guys
who sit at home are ?honored?.

73,
Gabe
AL6D/VE6NJH the insane guy who flies a Cessna 150 around Alaska and driven
about 80,000 miles in three years to activate grids


On Sun, Apr 21, 2019 at 6:50 PM Les Rayburn via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
wrote:

> Lady & Gentlemen,
>
> Not certain if my earlier message was received. No reply from anyone on
> the distribution list. Here it is again, in case the first one was lost in
> cyberspace.
>
> In an effort to stimulate activity on VHF/UHF bands beyond 70 CM, I?d like
> to suggest the creation of a Five Band VUCC (5B VUCC) award that would
> closely mirror the 5 Band DXCC Award.
>
> Successful applicants would need to achieve VUCC status on five or more of
> the VHF/UHF bands to be eligible for the larger award. A special
> certificate and pin could be created to honor recipients.
>
> My feeling is that this award would encourage greater activity on the
> VHF/UHF bands, especially on bands that have less use like 222, 1296, and
> higher microwave bands. This increased activity encourages the sale of more
> gear, helps protect our spectrum from commercial interests, and advances
> the state of the radio art.
>
> Please let me know if you think this idea has any merit, or what I could
> do to help support the creation of the new award. As always, grateful for
> your service to the hobby.
>
>
>
> 73,
>
> Les Rayburn, N1LF
> 121 Mayfair Park
> Maylene, AL 35114
> EM63nf
> AMSAT #38965, ARRL Life Member, CVHS Life Member, SVHF Member
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>


------------------------------

Message: 6
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2019 07:01:13 -0400
From: David Kerl <n9hfontheair@?????.???>
To: Les Rayburn <les@????????????.???>
Cc: Greg Sarratt W4OZK <w4ozk@????.???>,	"vhf@????.????????.????
<vhf@????.????????.???>, W3IZ@????.?????????? BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>,
VHF Contesting Reflector <vhfcontesting@??????????.???>,	"Taratula,
Sharon" <staratula@????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] [VHF] 5 Band VUCC Award
Message-ID:
<CANyTfWtvKDpJPaXQk0zPev33x0Z98T7nZdjwWqm=3kNmczB6_g@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

Hello Les,
That should generate some incentive for more V/U/uwave activity. I would
certainly work towards that end.
Dave
N9HF
el99

"Back in my day" doesn't have a place in ham radio any more.


On Sun, Apr 21, 2019 at 10:50 PM Les Rayburn via VHF <vhf@????.????????.???>
wrote:

> Lady & Gentlemen,
>
> Not certain if my earlier message was received. No reply from anyone on
> the distribution list. Here it is again, in case the first one was lost in
> cyberspace.
>
> In an effort to stimulate activity on VHF/UHF bands beyond 70 CM, I?d like
> to suggest the creation of a Five Band VUCC (5B VUCC) award that would
> closely mirror the 5 Band DXCC Award.
>
> Successful applicants would need to achieve VUCC status on five or more of
> the VHF/UHF bands to be eligible for the larger award. A special
> certificate and pin could be created to honor recipients.
>
> My feeling is that this award would encourage greater activity on the
> VHF/UHF bands, especially on bands that have less use like 222, 1296, and
> higher microwave bands. This increased activity encourages the sale of more
> gear, helps protect our spectrum from commercial interests, and advances
> the state of the radio art.
>
> Please let me know if you think this idea has any merit, or what I could
> do to help support the creation of the new award. As always, grateful for
> your service to the hobby.
>
>
>
> 73,
>
> Les Rayburn, N1LF
> 121 Mayfair Park
> Maylene, AL 35114
> EM63nf
> AMSAT #38965, ARRL Life Member, CVHS Life Member, SVHF Member
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> VHF mailing list
> VHF@????.????????.???
> https://w6yx.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/vhf
>


------------------------------

Message: 7
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2019 11:41:53 +0000 (UTC)
From: Ev Tupis <w2ev@?????.???>
To: Michelle Thompson <mountain.michelle@?????.???>, 	Sean Waite
<waisean@?????.???>
Cc: "Taratula, Sharon" <staratula@????.???>,	VHF Reflector
<VHF@????.????????.???>,	NEWS <newsvhf@???????.???.???>,
W3IZ@????.???????? Rayburn <les@????????????.???>, AMSAT BB
<amsat-bb@?????.???>,	Rochester VHF Group
<rvhfg_general@???????????.???>,	VHF Contesting
<vhfcontesting@??????????.???>,	Greg Sarratt W4OZK <w4ozk@????.???>,
PackRats-Members <packrats@???????.???.???>,	Ontario VHF Reflector
<ontvhfassoc_reflector@???????????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Rethink -- Re:  5 Band VUCC Award
Message-ID: <353689255.2679007.1555933313395@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

[This reply-all will not be delivered to "VHF Contesting",
"PackRats-Members", "AMSAT BB" or "NEWS", as I do not belong to those groups]

The concept is sound, the approach is somewhat flawed in that VHF/UHF is not
HF.? "ARRL.ORG" should re-read that last sentence, as historically, they
have treated it similarly with less-than-optimal result.
One example: DXCC requires 100 entities without regard to band.? VUCC's
requirements are "weighted" by band.? Example: VUCC on 10 GHz lacks much
challenge.

A multi-band VUCC may be an interesting concept.? I ask that "ARRL.ORG"
think this through before just duplicating it for VHF/UHF.

As for "This increased activity encourages the sale of more gear, helps
protect our spectrum from commercial interests, and advances the state of
the radio art."? I would suggest that it does not as single-band VUCC's
already exist for every VHF+ band with little impact.
HOWEVER...the following changes would do so:
1. Change the LIMITED MULTI-OP category to be limited in the number of
operators, not the number of bands.
2. Change the FM ONLY category to include ALL bands, not just ABCD.
3. Eliminate the SINGLE OPERATOR, 3-BAND category
4. Change the ROVER, LIMITED category to be limited to a SINGLE operator and
driver rather than limited to the "bottom 4" bands.

I find it odd that the ARRL asks for support to a "Spectrum Defense" fund
while limiting spectrum use in their own events.

Ev, W2EV

  On Monday, April 22, 2019, 12:37:12 AM EDT, Sean Waite waisean@?????.???
[OntVHFAssoc_reflector] <OntVHFAssoc_reflector-noreply@???????????.???> wrote:

On Sun, Apr 21, 2019 at 7:51 PM Les Rayburn via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????..???>
wrote:

> Lady & Gentlemen,
>
> Not certain if my earlier message was received. No reply from anyone on
> the distribution list. Here it is again, in case the first one was lost in
> cyberspace.
>
> In an effort to stimulate activity on VHF/UHF bands beyond 70 CM, I?d like
> to suggest the creation of a Five Band VUCC (5B VUCC) award that would
> closely mirror the 5 Band DXCC Award.
>
> Successful applicants would need to achieve VUCC status on five or more of
> the VHF/UHF bands to be eligible for the larger award. A special
> certificate and pin could be created to honor recipients.
>
> My feeling is that this award would encourage greater activity on the
> VHF/UHF bands, especially on bands that have less use like 222, 1296, and
> higher microwave bands. This increased activity encourages the sale of more
> gear, helps protect our spectrum from commercial interests, and advances
> the state of the radio art.
>
> Please let me know if you think this idea has any merit, or what I could
> do to help support the creation of the new award. As always, grateful for
> your service to the hobby.
>
>
>
> 73,
>
> Les Rayburn, N1LF
> 121 Mayfair Park
> Maylene, AL 35114
> EM63nf
> AMSAT #38965, ARRL Life Member, CVHS Life Member, SVHF Member
>
>
>
>
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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2019 07:44:43 -0400
From: David Mossor <ke8cad@?????.???>
To: AMSAT-BB@?????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] Cushcraft 416-TB Oscar Satellite Boomer Antenna
System
Message-ID:
<CABXeRTb+N0dazCbL5HHLRuv48NxsYXmZimHaZya=1kCin0pKKA@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

Hello All,

I picked up a OSCAR antenna system that I have brought back to life. It
consist of a 416-TB 70cm antenna, A144-20T 2 meter twist yagi - 144-148
mhz,, 4' boom assembly, Two U-100 alliance rotors for azimuth and elev.
control. Everything is to factory specs. and the rotors work smooth. Not
sure if I am going to have time for SAT work at this time since I have two
tower projects to get done. Can anyone tell me if this is still a viable
antenna system and what would something like that be worth today? Planning
on taking it to an Upcoming Hamfest to see if anyone is interested. Can
send pictures via email.
I am good on QRZ.

Any information would be greatly appreciated.
--
KE8CAD
DAVID B. MOSSOR
908 W. MAIN ST.
HARRISVILLE, WV 26362


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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2019 07:23:07 -0500
From: "Donald M. Ross" <N12614@???.???>
To: "'Les Rayburn'" <les@????????????.???>,	"'Gabriel Zeifman'"
<gabrielzeifman@?????.???>
Cc: W3IZ@????.???? "'Taratula, Sharon'" <staratula@????.???>,	'AMSAT
BB' <amsat-bb@?????.???>,	'VHF Contesting Reflector'
<vhfcontesting@??????????.???>,	'Greg Sarratt W4OZK' <w4ozk@????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] [VHF]  5 Band VUCC Award
Message-ID: <007a01d4f906$25ddf450$7199dcf0$@???.???>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="utf-8"

Les,

Central States VHF Society has the Reverse VUCC (VUCC/r) award
(http://csvhfs.org/index.php/awards-and-programs/reverse-vucc) .

Don, AC5D

-----Original Message-----
From: VHF <vhf-bounces@????.????????.???> On Behalf Of Les Rayburn via VHF
Sent: Monday, 22 April, 2019 01:11
To: Gabriel Zeifman <gabrielzeifman@?????.???>
Cc: Greg Sarratt W4OZK <w4ozk@????.???>; vhf@????.????????.???? AMSAT BB
<amsat-bb@?????.???>; W3IZ@????.???? VHF Contesting Reflector
<vhfcontesting@??????????.???>; Taratula, Sharon <staratula@????.???>
Subject: Re: [VHF] [amsat-bb] 5 Band VUCC Award


Gabe,

Excellent, and I mean excellent point. It?s high time the ARRL did something
to recognize rovers when it comes to VUCC.

BTW, I need Alaska on satellite! :-)

Thanks for all the roving you do. Those of us at home are grateful more than
you can know.


73,

Les Rayburn, N1LF
Maylene, AL
EM63nf
AMSAT #38965, ARRL Life Member, CVHS Life Member, SVHF Member




> On Apr 22, 2019, at 12:18 AM, Gabriel Zeifman <gabrielzeifman@?????.???>
wrote:
>
> I?d personally be much more interested if there was a similar award for
rovers. I think a lot of the work rovers do is overlooked while the guys who
sit at home are ?honored?.
>
> 73,
> Gabe
> AL6D/VE6NJH the insane guy who flies a Cessna 150 around Alaska and driven
about 80,000 miles in three years to activate grids
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 21, 2019 at 6:50 PM Les Rayburn via AMSAT-BB
<amsat-bb@?????.??? <mailto:amsat-bb@?????.???>> wrote:
> Lady & Gentlemen,
>
> Not certain if my earlier message was received. No reply from anyone on
the distribution list. Here it is again, in case the first one was lost in
cyberspace.
>
> In an effort to stimulate activity on VHF/UHF bands beyond 70 CM, I?d like
to suggest the creation of a Five Band VUCC (5B VUCC) award that would
closely mirror the 5 Band DXCC Award.
>
> Successful applicants would need to achieve VUCC status on five or more of
the VHF/UHF bands to be eligible for the larger award. A special certificate
and pin could be created to honor recipients.
>
> My feeling is that this award would encourage greater activity on the
VHF/UHF bands, especially on bands that have less use like 222, 1296, and
higher microwave bands. This increased activity encourages the sale of more
gear, helps protect our spectrum from commercial interests, and advances the
state of the radio art.
>
> Please let me know if you think this idea has any merit, or what I could
do to help support the creation of the new award. As always, grateful for
your service to the hobby.
>
>
>
> 73,
>
> Les Rayburn, N1LF
> 121 Mayfair Park
> Maylene, AL 35114
> EM63nf
> AMSAT #38965, ARRL Life Member, CVHS Life Member, SVHF Member
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.??? <mailto:AMSAT-BB@?????.???>. AMSAT-NA makes
this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2019 08:58:22 -0400
From: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@????.???>
To: Sean Waite <waisean@?????.???>
Cc: Greg Sarratt W4OZK <w4ozk@????.???>, VHF Reflector
<VHF@????.????????.???>,	NEWS <newsvhf@???????.???.???>, AMSAT BB
<amsat-bb@?????.???>,	Les Rayburn <les@????????????.???>, "Fusaro,
Norm W3IZ" <W3IZ@????.???>,	Rochester VHF Group
<rvhfg_general@???????????.???>,	VHF Contesting
<vhfcontesting@??????????.???>, "Taratula,	Sharon"
<staratula@????.???>, PackRats-Members <packrats@???????.???.???>,
Ontario VHF Reflector <ontvhfassoc_reflector@???????????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] 5 Band VUCC Award
Message-ID:
<CABzOSOrAu+Rhc68cY+D3NsVL+4AgODjHhgyotD35YD3L=330KQ@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

If this were to be implemented, "Satellite" should count as one of the band
choices for a 5-Band VUCC.

73,

Paul, N8HM

On Mon, Apr 22, 2019 at 8:55 AM Sean Waite via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
wrote:

> Interesting. I'll also spread it to a few lists. The VHF Superconference 2
> is happening soon and may be a good place to talk about this.
>
> 73,
> Sean WA1TE
>
> On Mon, Apr 22, 2019, 00:29 Michelle Thompson via AMSAT-BB <
> amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>
> > Intrigued! I'll share this with the local microwave contesting group (San
> > Diego/LA) and try and get you some feedback.
> >
> > I'm in favor of any increase in microwave band contests.
> >
> > -Michelle W5NYV
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Apr 21, 2019 at 7:51 PM Les Rayburn via AMSAT-BB <
> > amsat-bb@?????.???>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Lady & Gentlemen,
> > >
> > > Not certain if my earlier message was received. No reply from anyone on
> > > the distribution list. Here it is again, in case the first one was lost
> > in
> > > cyberspace.
> > >
> > > In an effort to stimulate activity on VHF/UHF bands beyond 70 CM, I?d
> > like
> > > to suggest the creation of a Five Band VUCC (5B VUCC) award that would
> > > closely mirror the 5 Band DXCC Award.
> > >
> > > Successful applicants would need to achieve VUCC status on five or more
> > of
> > > the VHF/UHF bands to be eligible for the larger award. A special
> > > certificate and pin could be created to honor recipients.
> > >
> > > My feeling is that this award would encourage greater activity on the
> > > VHF/UHF bands, especially on bands that have less use like 222, 1296,
> and
> > > higher microwave bands. This increased activity encourages the sale of
> > more
> > > gear, helps protect our spectrum from commercial interests, and
> advances
> > > the state of the radio art.
> > >
> > > Please let me know if you think this idea has any merit, or what I
> could
> > > do to help support the creation of the new award. As always, grateful
> for
> > > your service to the hobby.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 73,
> > >
> > > Les Rayburn, N1LF
> > > 121 Mayfair Park
> > > Maylene, AL 35114
> > > EM63nf
> > > AMSAT #38965, ARRL Life Member, CVHS Life Member, SVHF Member
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> > Opinions
> > > expressed
> > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
> of
> > > AMSAT-NA.
> > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> > program!
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> > >
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