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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: 5 Band VUCC Award (AE5B)
   2. Re: [VHF]  5 Band VUCC Award (John Geiger)
   3. 5BVUCC Nets Support of (Les Rayburn)
   4. Re: [VHFcontesting] Five Band VUCC (5BVUCC) Award	Proposal
      (Les Rayburn)
   5. Re: Cushcraft 416-TB Oscar Satellite Boomer Antenna	System
      (Greg D)
   6. Re: 5 Band VUCC Award (Fernando Ramirez)
   7. Re: [VHFcontesting] 5BVUCC Nets Support of (John Geiger)
   8. Upcoming ARISS contact with Hidden Oaks Middle School,	Prior
      Lake, MN (n4csitwo@?????????.????


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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2019 11:51:23 -0500
From: AE5B <ae5b@????.???>
To: Les Rayburn <les@????????????.???>, Bruce <kk5do@?????.???>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>,	VHF Contesting Reflector
<vhfcontesting@??????????.???>,	Greg Sarratt W4OZK <w4ozk@????.???>,
"vhf@????.????????.???? <vhf@????.????????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] 5 Band VUCC Award
Message-ID: <F2AA42BA2C3C4559A78FAFF39462DEBD.MAI@????>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

Lee,
This would be a policy issue. Supportive information should go to your
Director and the ARRL Awards Committee. I do not know who currently is on
the Awards Committee. Maybe someone on the list can advise? Your Director
can also provide you with that information. The Section Manager and his
Field Service organization has no input into matters such as this.

?If you?re supportive of it, please contact your Section Manager and let
them know.?


John Dyer
AE5B

WTX ARRL Section Manager (retired)
ARRL President?s Award 2014


Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Les Rayburn via AMSAT-BB
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 10:45 AM
To: Bruce
Cc: AMSAT BB; Greg Sarratt W4OZK; VHF Contesting Reflector;
vhf@????.????????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] 5 Band VUCC Award

Bruce,

Correct. For those of us ?Back East?, 6 Meter VUCC and Satellite VUCC are
probably the easiest to earn. 2 Meters is certainly achievable especially
using WSJT meteor scatter and EME.

Those in most parts of the West have an advantage on microwave?since high
spots with five grids within range are most plentiful.

222 and 432 are within each of most?especially if we have increased activity
on these bands.

Microwave about 2.3 GHz is tougher but if you?re willing to travel the five
(5) grids required could be worked by yourself and a partner in a weekend.

For the record, I just achieved my second VUCC. This one on 2 Meters?a feat
that took over a decade to complete. I?m limited to an indoor antenna due to
HOA. Closing in on Satellite VUCC which would give me three of the awards.

Completing 432 would be possible?but likely would require a single Yagi EME
effort from the driveway at night. My HOA will allow portable operations?but
everything has to be back inside when the sun comes up.

That would give me four bands?anything else will require microwave and
travel. A considerable expense. But one that I?d be willing to make if the
reward was not only 10 GHz VUCC but also the new Five Band VUCC Award.

I really hope the ARRL will seriously consider the proposal. If you?re
supportive of it, please contact your Section Manager and let them know.


73,

Les Rayburn, N1LF
Maylene, AL
EM63nf
AMSAT #38965, ARRL Life Member, CVHS Life Member, SVHF Member




> On Apr 22, 2019, at 7:52 AM, Bruce <kk5do@?????.???> wrote:
>
> So, I could do my 100 on satellite, 100 on 6m, then 100 on 2m and  50 on
70cm and be done.
>
> The higher frequencies are impossible from the Houston area as we have no
mountains. Those in mountainous regions have a distinct advantage in the
higher frequencies. That is why you see a large group of high frequency use
in Europe, East Coast and West Coast. I am not saying it does not present a
challenge everywhere
>
> 73...bruce
>
> On 4/22/2019 1:20 AM, Les Rayburn wrote:
>> Bruce,
>>
>> Thank you for your input. Current VUCC rules would apply:
>>
>> 6 Meters, 2 Meters, and Satellite require 100 grids confirmed.
>> 222 and 432 require 50 grids
>> 902 and 1296 require 25 grids
>> 2304 requires 10 grids
>> All higher bands including 5 GHz, 10Ghz, and laser require only five.
>>
>>
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Les Rayburn, N1LF
>> Maylene, AL
>> EM63nf
>> AMSAT #38965, ARRL Life Member, CVHS Life Member, SVHF Member
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Apr 21, 2019, at 10:07 PM, Bruce <kk5do@?????.???
<mailto:kk5do@?????.???>> wrote:
>>>
>>> 100 grids terrestrial on 1296 or 2400.  that is a bit rough.  what 5
bands would it be? 222, 2m, 70cm, 1296 and ??? 2400?
>>>
>>> 73...bruce
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Apr 21, 2019, at 9:50 PM, Les Rayburn via AMSAT-BB
<amsat-bb@?????.??? <mailto:amsat-bb@?????.???>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Lady & Gentlemen,
>>>
>>> Not certain if my earlier message was received. No reply from anyone on
the distribution list. Here it is again, in case the first one was lost in
cyberspace.
>>>
>>> In an effort to stimulate activity on VHF/UHF bands beyond 70 CM, I?d
like to suggest the creation of a Five Band VUCC (5B VUCC) award that would 
               closely mirror the 5 Band DXCC Award.
>>>
>>> Successful applicants would need to achieve VUCC status on five or more
of the VHF/UHF bands to be eligible for the larger award. A special
certificate and pin could be created to honor recipients.
>>>
>>> My feeling is that this award would encourage greater activity on the
VHF/UHF bands, especially on bands that have less use like 222, 1296, and
higher microwave bands. This increased activity encourages the sale of more
gear, helps protect our spectrum from commercial interests, and advances the
state of the radio art.
>>>
>>> Please let me know if you think this idea has any merit, or what I could
do to help support the creation of the new award. As always, grateful for
your service to the hobby.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 73,
>>>
>>> Les Rayburn, N1LF
>>> 121 Mayfair Park
>>> Maylene, AL 35114
>>> EM63nf
>>> AMSAT #38965, ARRL Life Member, CVHS Life Member, SVHF Member
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.??? <mailto:AMSAT-BB@?????.???>. AMSAT-NA makes
this open forum available
>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
Opinions                 expressed
>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>>> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
<https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb>
>>>
>>
>
>
> --
>
> Bruce Paige, KK5DO
>
> AMSAT Director Contests and Awards
> AMSAT Board Member 2016-2020
>
> ARRL Awards Field Checker (WAS, 5BWAS, VUCC), VE
>
> Houston AMSAT Net - Wed 0100z on Echolink - Conference *AMSAT*
> Also live streaming MP3 at http://www.amsatnet.com
<http://www.amsatnet.com/>
> Podcast at http://www.amsatnet.com/podcast.xml
<http://www.amsatnet.com/podcast.xml> or iTunes
>
> Latest satellite news on the ARRL Audio News
> http://www.arrl.org <http://www.arrl.org/>
>
> AMSAT on Twitter http://www.twitter.com/amsat <http://www.twitter.com/amsat>

_______________________________________________
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expressed
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2019 12:23:50 -0500
From: John Geiger <af5cc2@?????.???>
To: Les Rayburn <les@????????????.???>
Cc: "vhf@????.????????.???? <vhf@????.????????.???>,	AMSAT BB
<amsat-bb@?????.???>, Bruce <kk5do@?????.???>,	Greg Sarratt W4OZK
<w4ozk@????.???>,	VHF Contesting Reflector
<vhfcontesting@??????????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] [VHF]  5 Band VUCC Award
Message-ID:
<CAHC1P298p=5=-MpT0ZaKQtucyLdGuj2eu7Bvt_ah0JoeQen_5Q@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

An idea I have been kicking around would be a VUCC challenge, like the DXCC
Challenge on HF, 160, and 6 meters. You add together your grid totals from
all VHF and UHF bands, and include satellites, and the higher score each
year would get a trophy.  This should get people interested in adding
additional bands to their setup.

There could be a plaque issued when you reach some level of grid totals.
For the DXCC Challenge is it 1000 band countries, with endorsements being
added to that at specific levels.  May 500 band grids would be the plaque
level.   I think that there should be some stipulation added that you must
have worked say 20 grids on 3 different bands to get the initial plaque.
This would keep someone from getting the initial plaque just by using 6
meters or the satellites.  I love 6 meters and the satellites, but doing it
on 1 band would kind of violate the spirit of the award. Also, for the DXCC
Challenge you would have to use 3 bands minimum to get to 1000 band
countries.  You couldn't do it on just 20 meters.

Any thoughts  on this idea?

73 John AF5CC

On Mon, Apr 22, 2019 at 10:45 AM Les Rayburn via VHF <vhf@????.????????.???>
wrote:

> Bruce,
>
> Correct. For those of us ?Back East?, 6 Meter VUCC and Satellite VUCC are
> probably the easiest to earn. 2 Meters is certainly achievable especially
> using WSJT meteor scatter and EME.
>
> Those in most parts of the West have an advantage on microwave?since high
> spots with five grids within range are most plentiful.
>
> 222 and 432 are within each of most?especially if we have increased
> activity on these bands.
>
> Microwave about 2.3 GHz is tougher but if you?re willing to travel the
> five (5) grids required could be worked by yourself and a partner in a
> weekend.
>
> For the record, I just achieved my second VUCC. This one on 2 Meters?a
> feat that took over a decade to complete. I?m limited to an indoor antenna
> due to HOA. Closing in on Satellite VUCC which would give me three of the
> awards.
>
> Completing 432 would be possible?but likely would require a single Yagi
> EME effort from the driveway at night. My HOA will allow portable
> operations?but everything has to be back inside when the sun comes up.
>
> That would give me four bands?anything else will require microwave and
> travel. A considerable expense. But one that I?d be willing to make if the
> reward was not only 10 GHz VUCC but also the new Five Band VUCC Award.
>
> I really hope the ARRL will seriously consider the proposal. If you?re
> supportive of it, please contact your Section Manager and let them know.
>
>
> 73,
>
> Les Rayburn, N1LF
> Maylene, AL
> EM63nf
> AMSAT #38965, ARRL Life Member, CVHS Life Member, SVHF Member
>
>
>
>
> > On Apr 22, 2019, at 7:52 AM, Bruce <kk5do@?????.???> wrote:
> >
> > So, I could do my 100 on satellite, 100 on 6m, then 100 on 2m and  50 on
> 70cm and be done.
> >
> > The higher frequencies are impossible from the Houston area as we have
> no mountains. Those in mountainous regions have a distinct advantage in the
> higher frequencies. That is why you see a large group of high frequency use
> in Europe, East Coast and West Coast. I am not saying it does not present a
> challenge everywhere
> >
> > 73...bruce
> >
> > On 4/22/2019 1:20 AM, Les Rayburn wrote:
> >> Bruce,
> >>
> >> Thank you for your input. Current VUCC rules would apply:
> >>
> >> 6 Meters, 2 Meters, and Satellite require 100 grids confirmed.
> >> 222 and 432 require 50 grids
> >> 902 and 1296 require 25 grids
> >> 2304 requires 10 grids
> >> All higher bands including 5 GHz, 10Ghz, and laser require only five.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 73,
> >>
> >> Les Rayburn, N1LF
> >> Maylene, AL
> >> EM63nf
> >> AMSAT #38965, ARRL Life Member, CVHS Life Member, SVHF Member
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Apr 21, 2019, at 10:07 PM, Bruce <kk5do@?????.??? <mailto:
> kk5do@?????.???>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> 100 grids terrestrial on 1296 or 2400.  that is a bit rough.  what 5
> bands would it be? 222, 2m, 70cm, 1296 and ??? 2400?
> >>>
> >>> 73...bruce
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>
> >>> On Apr 21, 2019, at 9:50 PM, Les Rayburn via AMSAT-BB <
> amsat-bb@?????.??? <mailto:amsat-bb@?????.???>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Lady & Gentlemen,
> >>>
> >>> Not certain if my earlier message was received. No reply from anyone
> on the distribution list. Here it is again, in case the first one was lost
> in cyberspace.
> >>>
> >>> In an effort to stimulate activity on VHF/UHF bands beyond 70 CM, I?d
> like to suggest the creation of a Five Band VUCC (5B VUCC) award that
> would                 closely mirror the 5 Band DXCC Award.
> >>>
> >>> Successful applicants would need to achieve VUCC status on five or
> more of the VHF/UHF bands to be eligible for the larger award. A special
> certificate and pin could be created to honor recipients.
> >>>
> >>> My feeling is that this award would encourage greater activity on the
> VHF/UHF bands, especially on bands that have less use like 222, 1296, and
> higher microwave bands. This increased activity encourages the sale of more
> gear, helps protect our spectrum from commercial interests, and advances
> the state of the radio art.
> >>>
> >>> Please let me know if you think this idea has any merit, or what I
> could do to help support the creation of the new award. As always, grateful
> for your service to the hobby.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> 73,
> >>>
> >>> Les Rayburn, N1LF
> >>> 121 Mayfair Park
> >>> Maylene, AL 35114
> >>> EM63nf
> >>> AMSAT #38965, ARRL Life Member, CVHS Life Member, SVHF Member
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.??? <mailto:AMSAT-BB@?????.???>. AMSAT-NA
> makes this open forum available
> >>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions                 expressed
> >>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
> of AMSAT-NA.
> >>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
> >>> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> <https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb>
> >>>
> >>
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > Bruce Paige, KK5DO
> >
> > AMSAT Director Contests and Awards
> > AMSAT Board Member 2016-2020
> >
> > ARRL Awards Field Checker (WAS, 5BWAS, VUCC), VE
> >
> > Houston AMSAT Net - Wed 0100z on Echolink - Conference *AMSAT*
> > Also live streaming MP3 at http://www.amsatnet.com <
> http://www.amsatnet.com/>
> > Podcast at http://www.amsatnet.com/podcast.xml <
> http://www.amsatnet.com/podcast.xml> or iTunes
> >
> > Latest satellite news on the ARRL Audio News
> > http://www.arrl.org <http://www.arrl.org/>
> >
> > AMSAT on Twitter http://www.twitter.com/amsat <
> http://www.twitter.com/amsat>
>
> _______________________________________________
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>


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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2019 12:40:32 -0500
From: Les Rayburn <les@????????????.???>
To: VHF Contesting Reflector <vhfcontesting@??????????.???>,
"vhf@????.????????.???? <vhf@????.????????.???>,	AMSAT BB
<amsat-bb@?????.???>, Greg Sarratt W4OZK <w4ozk@????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] 5BVUCC Nets Support of
Message-ID: <DE12B4F8-FEB8-4CA2-A92C-FF770B9E0CC2@????????????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset=utf-8

Just heard back from Mike Ritz, W7VO who is the Director of the Northwestern
Division. He?s fully supportive of the proposal to create the new award.

Reach out to your ARRL Director today, and let?s see if we can keep the
momentum going!



73,

Les Rayburn, N1LF
Maylene, AL
EM63nf
AMSAT #38965, ARRL Life Member, CVHS Life Member, SVHF Member






------------------------------

Message: 4
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2019 13:08:56 -0500
From: Les Rayburn <les@????????????.???>
To: K7XC Tim Marek <k7xcnv1@?????.???>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>, Greg Sarratt W4OZK
<w4ozk@????.???>,	VHF Contesting Reflector
<vhfcontesting@??????????.???>,	"vhf@????.????????.????
<vhf@????.????????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] [VHFcontesting] Five Band VUCC (5BVUCC) Award
Proposal
Message-ID: <6239968C-0D77-4B26-9963-8721E665ABEA@????????????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset=utf-8

Tim,

I?ve actually operated VHF/UHF/Microwave from the West (mostly in New Mexico
and California) during VHF Contests when I?ve been traveling for business.

Understand well the challenges faced in making contacts on 2 Meters, 432,
etc. When it comes to this type of operating, geography is indeed destiny.

It?s difficult or impossible to mitigate the advantages enjoyed by operators
in the Northeast.

That being said, I still believe 5BVUCC is achievable by any committed
amateur in the 48 states. I live in a deed restricted neighborhood and am
limited to indoor antennas. This represents a huge disadvantage, but I?ve
found ways to overcome them. That?s part of the fun. As your own signature
file states, ?Adapt, Overcome,, Succeed!?

I suspect many operators would achieve 5BVUCC by working with a partner ham.
You could take a single dish for 5Ghz and 10Ghz to a high peak in a single
grid square, while your partner drove to LOS locations in five grids. Then
?switch? to allow both operators to earn VUCC on these bands. It?s done
pretty often now.

If you added lasers to the mix, you?d have three of the required bands in a
weekend. Difficult and expensive perhaps?but certainly something that many
have already done successfully.

As for satellite operation, I have to disagree with you. Earning VUCC on
satellites is certainly more difficult than earning it on 6 Meters. It is
truly weak-signal operation and requires skill sets that are unique from
other types of VHF/UHF operation.

More importantly, there is already a VUCC Award for Satellites, so it
wouldn?t make sense to exclude this ?band? from the award.

Like 6 Meters, it also makes the 5BVUCC more of a possibility for Western
operators.

But I appreciate your opinions, and having you join the discussion. The best
proposals are formed when input is received from many different viewpoints.



73,

Les Rayburn, N1LF
Maylene, AL
EM63nf
AMSAT #38965, ARRL Life Member, CVHS Life Member, SVHF Member




> On Apr 22, 2019, at 12:52 PM, K7XC Tim Marek <k7xcnv1@?????.???> wrote:
>
> Hi Les,
>
> Your assumptions about what its like to operate in the West hold no Water
as well.
> The Entire West has an Active Weak Signal VHF population equal to that of
FN31 alone.
> Yes Tall Mountains are a huge advantage but people to work are far and few
between on 2M let alone 10GHz.
>
> Tim - K7XC - DM09jh.... sk
>
> Adapt, Overcome,, Succeed!
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 22, 2019 at 4:36 PM Les Rayburn <les@????????????.???
<mailto:les@????????????.???>> wrote:
> I completely misspoke, and apologize.
>
> The Southeast Division of the ARRL is represented on the league?s Boar of
Directors by Greg Sarratt, W4OZK who is active on weak signal VHF/UHF.
>
> We?ve been informed that the creation of new awards falls to the Board of
Directors. If you?re supportive of the proposal to create a new Five Band
VUCC Award (5BVUCC) please contact your director. Currently, these are:
>
> Tom Abernethy, W3TOM, Atlantic Division
>
> Kermit Carlson, W9XA, Central Division
>
> Matt Holden, K?BBC, Dakota Division
>
> David Norris, K5UZ, Delta Division
>
> Dale Williams, WA8EFK, Great Lakes Division
>
> Ria Jairam, N2RJ, Hudson Division
>
> Rod Blocksome, K?DAS, Midwest Division
>
> Fred Hopengarten, K1VR, New England Division
>
> Mike Ritz, W7VO, Northwestern Division
>
> Jim Tiemstra, K6JAT, Pacific Division
>
> George ?Bud? Hippisley, W2RU, Roanoke Division
>
> Jeff Ryan, K?RM, Rocky Mountain Division
>
> Greg Sarratt, W4OZK, Southeastern Division
>
> Dick Norton, N6AA, Southwestern Division
>
> David Woolweaver, K5RAV, West Gulf Division Director
>
> The proposal is for the league to create a new Five Band VUCC Award that
would be earned by achieving five individual band VUCC Awards. This would be
similar to the Five Band DXCC Award which has proven to be very popular.
>
> This award would be relatively easy to implement within Logbook of the
World, and require no significant changes to existing VUCC Rules.
>
> Six Meter VUCC and Satellite VUCC are probably the easiest to achieve
regardless of geography. Those of us in the East will find 2 Meters, 222,
and 432 easier to earn, though WSJT Meteor Scatter and EME open these up to
large parts of the country as well.
>
> Those in the Western states have easier access to high peaks within range
of the five grids required to earn the award on Microwaves.
>
> With effort, this award should be achievable to almost any amateur willing
to make the necessary commitment.
>
> So far, the idea has received a lot of support within the VHF/UHF Community.
>
> 73,
>
> Les Rayburn, N1LF
> Maylene, AL
> EM63nf
> AMSAT #38965, ARRL Life Member, CVHS Life Member, SVHF Member
>
>
>
>
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2019 11:14:44 -0700
From: Greg D <ko6th.greg@?????.???>
To: David Mossor <ke8cad@?????.???>
Cc: AMSAT-BB@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Cushcraft 416-TB Oscar Satellite Boomer
Antenna	System
Message-ID: <39a47bf1-444b-749e-7a63-30efc95d482a@?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Absolutely can work.  The only issue might be automating the Az / El
rotors, since the U100 controller doesn't have a computer interface.
Depending on the particular version of the rotor, a computer interface
can be built.  I have one for Elevation, along with some other ham-type
rotor for Azimuth.  Both use a contact "clicker" style connection for
feedback (versus a linear potentiometer).  Easy for a simple controller
to count the clicks and control the relays.  See
http://home.wavecable.com/~ko6th/ at the top of the page for more info.
The potentiometer-style feedback has been interfaced to by several
others, using an Arduino.

No idea for pricing...

Good luck with the projects!

Greg  KO6TH


David Mossor via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> Hello All,
>
> I picked up a OSCAR antenna system that I have brought back to life. It
> consist of a 416-TB 70cm antenna, A144-20T 2 meter twist yagi - 144-148
> mhz,, 4' boom assembly, Two U-100 alliance rotors for azimuth and elev.
> control. Everything is to factory specs. and the rotors work smooth. Not
> sure if I am going to have time for SAT work at this time since I have two
> tower projects to get done. Can anyone tell me if this is still a viable
> antenna system and what would something like that be worth today? Planning
> on taking it to an Upcoming Hamfest to see if anyone is interested. Can
> send pictures via email.
> I am good on QRZ.
>
> Any information would be greatly appreciated.
> --
> KE8CAD
> DAVID B. MOSSOR
> 908 W. MAIN ST.
> HARRISVILLE, WV 26362
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb



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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2019 11:26:59 -0700
From: Fernando Ramirez <framirezferrer@?????.???>
To: Gabriel Zeifman <gabrielzeifman@?????.???>
Cc: "Taratula, Sharon" <staratula@????.???>,	"vhf@????.????????.????
<vhf@????.????????.???>,	AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>,	Les Rayburn
<les@????????????.???>, W3IZ@????.???????? Contesting Reflector
<vhfcontesting@??????????.???>,	Greg Sarratt W4OZK <w4ozk@????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] 5 Band VUCC Award
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I 100% agree with Gabriel.

On satellites, rovers play a major role on the grid chasing game. They
spend a lot of time and money to work from grids that are never heard over
the air. Unfortunately, as of today, major organizations like the ARRL
don't have an award to honor and incentivise their efforts.

As an AMSAT member and an avid satellite grid chaser (I don't operate
sitting down, though), I would like to see an award for rovers before
focusing on more awards for chasers.

My humble opinion...

73

Fernando, NP4JV

On Mon, Apr 22, 2019, 5:59 AM Gabriel Zeifman via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:

> I?d personally be much more interested if there was a similar award for
> rovers. I think a lot of the work rovers do is overlooked while the guys
> who sit at home are ?honored?.
>
> 73,
> Gabe
> AL6D/VE6NJH the insane guy who flies a Cessna 150 around Alaska and driven
> about 80,000 miles in three years to activate grids
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 21, 2019 at 6:50 PM Les Rayburn via AMSAT-BB <
> amsat-bb@?????.???>
> wrote:
>
> > Lady & Gentlemen,
> >
> > Not certain if my earlier message was received. No reply from anyone on
> > the distribution list. Here it is again, in case the first one was lost
> in
> > cyberspace.
> >
> > In an effort to stimulate activity on VHF/UHF bands beyond 70 CM, I?d
> like
> > to suggest the creation of a Five Band VUCC (5B VUCC) award that would
> > closely mirror the 5 Band DXCC Award.
> >
> > Successful applicants would need to achieve VUCC status on five or more
> of
> > the VHF/UHF bands to be eligible for the larger award. A special
> > certificate and pin could be created to honor recipients.
> >
> > My feeling is that this award would encourage greater activity on the
> > VHF/UHF bands, especially on bands that have less use like 222, 1296, and
> > higher microwave bands. This increased activity encourages the sale of
> more
> > gear, helps protect our spectrum from commercial interests, and advances
> > the state of the radio art.
> >
> > Please let me know if you think this idea has any merit, or what I could
> > do to help support the creation of the new award. As always, grateful for
> > your service to the hobby.
> >
> >
> >
> > 73,
> >
> > Les Rayburn, N1LF
> > 121 Mayfair Park
> > Maylene, AL 35114
> > EM63nf
> > AMSAT #38965, ARRL Life Member, CVHS Life Member, SVHF Member
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> > expressed
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2019 13:56:59 -0500
From: John Geiger <af5cc2@?????.???>
To: K7XC Tim Marek <k7xcnv1@?????.???>
Cc: "vhf@????.????????.???? <vhf@????.????????.???>,	AMSAT BB
<amsat-bb@?????.???>, Les Rayburn <les@????????????.???>,	Greg Sarratt
W4OZK <w4ozk@????.???>,	VHF Contesting Reflector
<vhfcontesting@??????????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] [VHFcontesting] 5BVUCC Nets Support of
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What about EME QSOs?  Those are not terrestrial.

73 John AF5CC

On Mon, Apr 22, 2019 at 12:58 PM K7XC Tim Marek <k7xcnv1@?????.???> wrote:

> Adding Satellite QSOs to a Terrestrial Award is something I Can NOT
> Endorse.
>
> They are separate from Terrestrial VUCC awards for a reason.
>
> Create a 5B VUCC award by all means all the reasons stated, just leave
> Assisted QSOS (Repeaters, Satellites, Etc) out of it.
>
> 73s de Tim - K7XC - DM09jh... sk
> Adapt, Overcome, Succeed!
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 22, 2019 at 5:40 PM Les Rayburn <les@????????????.???> wrote:
>
> > Just heard back from Mike Ritz, W7VO who is the Director of the
> > Northwestern Division. He?s fully supportive of the proposal to create
> the
> > new award.
> >
> > Reach out to your ARRL Director today, and let?s see if we can keep the
> > momentum going!
> >
> >
> >
> > 73,
> >
> > Les Rayburn, N1LF
> > Maylene, AL
> > EM63nf
> > AMSAT #38965, ARRL Life Member, CVHS Life Member, SVHF Member
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > VHFcontesting mailing list
> > VHFcontesting@??????????.???
> > http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/vhfcontesting
> >
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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2019 15:30:24 -0400
From: <n4csitwo@?????????.???>
To: <amsat-bb@?????.???>,	<ariss-press@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS contact with Hidden Oaks Middle
School,	Prior Lake, MN
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An International Space Station school contact has been planned with
participants at Hidden Oaks Middle School, Prior Lake, MN on 24 Apr. The
event is scheduled to begin at approximately 17:46 UTC. The duration of the
contact is approximately 9 minutes and 30 seconds. The contact will be
direct between NA1SS and N9CHA. The contact should be audible over the state
of Minnesota and adjacent areas. Interested parties are invited to listen in
on the 145.80 MHz downlink. The contact is expected to be conducted in
English.





Story:



Hidden Oaks Middle School in Prior Lake, MN has been selected to participate
in a program that will have students speaking directly, in real-time to an
astronaut aboard the International Space Station using Amateur Radio. ARISS,
an acronym for Amateur Radio on the International Space Station is a program
created by a consortium of amateur radio organizations and space agencies
including National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA).  ARISS works
to connect students worldwide with crewmembers aboard the International
Space Station with the hopes of inspiring students to pursue interests in
STEM related fields. As an ESTEM school, this is a tremendous opportunity
for the students at Hidden Oaks Middle School. Spearheaded by 8th grade
science teachers and space enthusiasts, Laura Kuechenmeister and Becky
Stark, the project will encompass all 1000 students at Hidden Oaks in a
variety of ways. Hidden Oaks has teamed up with Amateur Radio operator Greg
Braun (N9CHA) and a team of te
 chnicians that he has assembled to draft an equipment plan. HOMS has worked
with Greg and his team in the past on projects including high altitude
balloon tracking and an ARISS contact in 2014 and have great confidence in
his ability to have a successful ARISS contact. In February, Greg's team
plans to conduct a proof of performance test on all radio communications
equipment that will be used for the contact. Additional setup and testing
will be done the week prior to the contact at the contact site--Hidden Oaks
Middle School.



Additionally, students at Hidden Oaks have been having fun learning about
the ISS and amateur radio prior to the contact. Students have been
monitoring the station through an ISS Live module that is on display in the
entryway of the school. They have been using it to watch the live feed of
the Earth from the station and to stay up to date with the crew on the
station. Students have also been watching NASA's weekly broadcast about the
station called "Space to Ground." They have enjoyed learning about how the
astronauts work and live in space. A mission patch (sticker) has been
designed and created to celebrate the mission.  Science teachers throughout
all 3 grade levels (6, 7, 8) have been working to incorporate space-based
curriculum including Space Fact Friday, rocket designing and building,
participating in the Sally Ride EarthKAM program and researching a variety
of space missions. 8th grade students are also looking forward to a
space-themed ESTEM day later in the year where much
  of the focus will be on the International Space Station.



More than 1,000 students will attend the ARISS contact event at Hidden Oaks
Middle School. The event will be livestreamed to make it available to school
audiences beyond our school. Students are learning about the current
astronauts and missions and submitting questions to ask online. To date more
than 300 questions have been submitted with more than a week remaining for
students to make their submissions. 10-15 will be selected to be asked
during the contact.





Participants will ask as many of the following questions as time allows:



1. Why did you want to become an astronaut?

2. What kind of training did you have to do to be ready for your mission?

3. What was the hardest part for you about becoming and being an astronaut?

4. What is it like riding in the rocket to and from the space station?

5. What was your first day on the space station like?

6. What things have you had to do on the station to help conserve resources

   like water?

7. What is a typical day like for you as an astronaut on the space station?

8. What is your favorite food to eat on the space station?  How do you

   prepare it?

9. What do you do in your spare time on the station?

10. What was the most difficult thing for you to get used to on the space

    station?

11. What kind of experiments are you currently working on on the space

    station?

12. How has living in micro-gravity affected your body?

13. What do you miss most about living on Earth?

14. What are some things you will have to do in order to go back to "normal"

    life when you get back to Earth?





PLEASE CHECK THE FOLLOWING FOR MORE INFORMATION ON ARISS UPDATES:



      Visit ARISS on Facebook. We can be found at Amateur Radio on the

      International Space Station (ARISS).



      To receive our Twitter updates, follow @????????????





Next planned event(s):



      TBD





About ARISS:

Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS) is a cooperative
venture of international amateur radio societies and the space agencies that
support the International Space Station (ISS). In the United States,
sponsors are the Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT), the American
Radio Relay League (ARRL), the Center for the Advancement of Science in
Space (CASIS) and  National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA). 
The primary goal of ARISS is to promote exploration of science, technology,
engineering, and mathematics (STEM) topics by organizing scheduled contacts
via amateur radio between crew members aboard the ISS and students in
classrooms or informal education venues.  With the help of experienced
amateur radio volunteers, ISS crews speak directly with large audiences in a
variety of public forums.  Before and during these radio contacts, students,
teachers, parents, and communities learn about space, space technologies,
and amateur radio.  For more informa
 tion, see www.ariss.org, www.amsat.org, and www.arrl.org.



Thank you & 73,

David - AA4KN






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