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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Upcoming Satellite Passes--Best Tool Question (Don KB2YSI)
2. Re: Upcoming Satellite Passes--Best Tool Question (Pedro Converso)
3. sat android (73 Bob W7LRD)
4. Re: sat android (John Brier)
5. Re: sat android (Hans BX2ABT)
6. Re: [VHFcontesting] [VHF] 5 Band VUCC Award (Galen Gold)
7. Re: [VHF] [VHFcontesting] 5 Band VUCC Award (David Kerl)
8. Re: [VHF] [VHFcontesting] 5 Band VUCC Award (WA2VOI, Donn)
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2019 11:04:19 -0400
From: Don KB2YSI <kb2ysi@?????.???>
To: Jeff Johns <jeff30339@?????.???>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Upcoming Satellite Passes--Best Tool Question
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Another option is to use satmatch.com.
By modifing the URL you can get all of the passes between 2 locations for a
number of satellites, example:
https://www.satmatch.com/satellite/SO-50,AO-91,AO-92,CAS-4B,XW-2A/obs1/DM01/ob
s2/FN22?search_start_time=2019-02-23T12:00Z&duration_hrs=24
Add/change the satellite names as needed, change the grid squares, more
western is 1st, and set date & duration as required.
There is a GUI available, but I find it is easier to do manually; at least
for me.
On Tue, Apr 23, 2019, 09:14 Jeff Johns via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
wrote:
> No worries. I still made a contact on that pass and you are able to fix
> something on your end to help you work more passes. It?s a win-win for both
> of us.
>
> Jeff WE4B
>
> > On Apr 22, 2019, at 11:28 PM, Les Rayburn via AMSAT-BB <
> amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
> >
> > I need some advice, and I promise to be grateful.
> >
> > Trying to work a sked tonight with Jeff W4EB on EO-88 and yours truly
> made a series of newbie mistakes.
> >
> > Since becoming involved in satellites, I?ve always relied on the
> ?Countdown? program within SatPC32 to let me know what passes were coming
> up at my location.
> >
> > Tonight I learned that I?ve been missing God knows how many passes per
> day! The Countdown software will only display one (1) upcoming pass for a
> given satellite at your location until that satellite has disappeared from
> view.
> >
> > In the case of EO-88, I actually had two passes overhead about an hour
> apart, but only knew about the first one.
> >
> > Strictly Windows 10 PC in the shack. What?s the best tool to use to help
> me visualize ALL the upcoming passes for the next twelve hours or so at my
> location. I love the Countdown format, just want to be able to see multiple
> passes from the same birds.
> >
> > P.S. The other newbie mistake was forgetting to switch my antenna back
> to the IC-910H after doing an APRS pass earlier on the D-710. DUH! I really
> need to invest in an IC-9700.
> >
> > Thanks Jeff for your patience.
> >
> >
> > 73,
> >
> > Les Rayburn, N1LF
> > Maylene, AL
> > EM63nf
> > AMSAT #38965, ARRL Life Member, CVHS Life Member, SVHF Member
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2019 13:40:15 -0300
From: Pedro Converso <pconver@?????.???>
To: Roy Dean <royldean@?????.???>
Cc: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Upcoming Satellite Passes--Best Tool Question
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Hi Roy,
THANKS! for the nice & rewarding comment on http://amsat.org.ar/pass
Pass intention was to ease and help grow ranks of Satellite hams.
I should thank for all who helped develop, still open for suggestions.
Glad to see in two years plenty users http://lu7aa.org/passlog.asp
Best 73, lu7abf, Pedro
On 4/23/19, Roy Dean via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
> http://www.amsat.org.ar/pass
>
> Enter your 6 digit grid, and then select "FM Voice Sats" or "SSB + FM"
> sats. Just click on the pass you want to target and it will pop up a
> infographic in the top right, with countdown to AOS. It will run on any
> system, in a browser window. I zoom into the top right and place my phone
> at my feet during a pass, and it will show you the direction and elevation
> of the pass, as well as estimated doppler adjustments.
>
> But I'm biased, I was born in Argentina.... No connection to the website
> other than that, though. :)
>
> --Roy
> K3RLD
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2019 12:35:46 -0700 (PDT)
From: 73 Bob W7LRD <w7lrd@???????.???>
To: amsat-bb <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] sat android
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The "best" sat tracker for android phone is----
73 Bob W7LRD
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2019 15:44:55 -0400
From: John Brier <johnbrier@?????.???>
To: 73 Bob W7LRD <w7lrd@???????.???>
Cc: amsat-bb <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] sat android
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Define best. :-)
I prefer ISS Detector Pro because I can use the filter to select only the
sats I am interested in seeing passes for. Then on the main screen it shows
me each pass for the sats I've selected. Heavens Above you have to see ALL
"radio satellites" or search for an individual sat. All radio sats as they
call it include a lot of sats that I have never even heard of and I assume
are no longer functional.
Here is a table of a bunch of apps and some reviews:
http://sats.wikidot.com/what-apps-can-i-use-to-track-satellites
73, John Brier KG4AKV
On Tue, Apr 23, 2019 at 3:36 PM 73 Bob W7LRD via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
> The "best" sat tracker for android phone is----
>
> 73 Bob W7LRD
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2019 07:39:00 +0800
From: Hans BX2ABT <hans.bx2abt@???.?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] sat android
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Define best?
Best is that an app allows me the freedom to choose what I want to
display and does that so in a smart way.
Last year I downloaded all the sat apps I could find and tested them one
by one. Heaven's Above omits some sats because they deem them
"uninteresting" and of course one of them was on my list to track. Right
now they still don't have Diwata-2 in their list and no way to add that
by yourself! (I saw someone on Twitter crying out to HA to pleeeeeease
include it asap). The way they display is not ideal for portable
operation and their information is very limited, e.g. no
frequency/doppler info.
ISS Detector has it all: you can choose the sats you are interested in,
they are all in there (incl. Diwata-2), displaying them in a clear and
useful way and they have all the info you need, like frequencies and
doppler shift. It even has an elevation scale next to the radar plot, so
you can point your arrow in the same angle as your phone. Plus the alarm
function for this forgetful old fart is great. I really can't find any
fault with ISS Detector.
HTH
Hans
BX2ABT
On 04/24/2019 03:44 AM, John Brier via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> Define best. :-)
>
> I prefer ISS Detector Pro because I can use the filter to select only the
> sats I am interested in seeing passes for. Then on the main screen it shows
> me each pass for the sats I've selected. Heavens Above you have to see ALL
> "radio satellites" or search for an individual sat. All radio sats as they
> call it include a lot of sats that I have never even heard of and I assume
> are no longer functional.
>
> Here is a table of a bunch of apps and some reviews:
>
> http://sats.wikidot.com/what-apps-can-i-use-to-track-satellites
>
> 73, John Brier KG4AKV
>
> On Tue, Apr 23, 2019 at 3:36 PM 73 Bob W7LRD via AMSAT-BB <
> amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>
>> The "best" sat tracker for android phone is----
>>
>> 73 Bob W7LRD
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
>> expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>> AMSAT-NA.
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>> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>
> _______________________________________________
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> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
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AMSAT-NA.
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2019 21:22:38 +0000
From: Galen Gold <kb6ee@?????????.??>
To: John Geiger <af5cc2@?????.???>, Paul Andrews
<w2hro.fn20@?????.???>
Cc: amsat-bb <AMSAT-BB@?????.???>, Les Rayburn <les@????????????.???>,
VHF Reflector <VHF@????.????????.???>, "vhfcontesting@??????????.????
<vhfcontesting@??????????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] [VHFcontesting] [VHF] 5 Band VUCC Award
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President of W2SZ (not /1) here, Logbook of the World says we have all of
them except Fred Fish, 222, and 2G, but my guess is we got those long enough
ago that they aren't on LOTW.
73,
Galen Gold
KB6EE
On Mon, Apr 22, 2019 at 17:13, John Geiger <af5cc2@?????.???> wrote:
> Probably W2SZ/1, except for the satellite VUCC.
>
> 73 John AF5CC
>
> On Mon, Apr 22, 2019 at 3:32 PM Paul Andrews via AMSAT-BB <
> amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>
>> With regards to 5 Band VUCC. I think that satellite VUCC (100 QSOs) is
>> just another band. (more accurate - Sat is a mode)
>>
>> The ARRL identifies 10 VUCC bands between 50 MHz and 10 GHz. Satellite is
>> just the 11th VUCC band.
>>
>> Complete VUCC in any 5 bands and earn the 5BVUCC. Am I missing something?
>>
>> Has anyone completed VUCC in all 11 bands?
>>
>> 73 - Paul - W2HRO
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 22, 2019 at 3:58 PM K7XC Tim Marek via AMSAT-BB <
>> amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>>
>> > A 5 Band VUCC award sound interesting. Would it allow existing VUCC
>> > contacts already in LOTW
>> > to be used for credit or require all New & Separate ones?
>> >
>> > Currently the existing VUCC rules however state that Repeater Like QSOs
>> are
>> > NOT allowed,
>> > and that means NO Satellites!
>> >
>> > I agree with the rules as written and cant support adding Non Terrestrial
>> > contacts to a Terrestrial award!
>> >
>> > If we allow this to happen it muddies the waters from that point on,
>> > disrespecting everyone who in the
>> > past worked their butts off to accomplish something not easy to do. The
>> > fact it was hard made the goal
>> > worth chasing. The argument its too hard and discourages others Holds No
>> > Water. If you want something
>> > bad enough you will do whats needed to get it.
>> >
>> > I reject your proposal to include Satellite QSOs with Terrestrial QSOs
>> and
>> > encourage others to do as well.
>> >
>> > 73s de Tim - K7XC - DM09jh... sk
>> >
>> > Adapt, Overcome, Succeed!
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Mon, Apr 22, 2019 at 3:32 PM Les Rayburn <les@????????????.???>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > > John,
>> > >
>> > > My proposal would allow ?Satellite VUCC? to count towards 5BVUCC. The
>> > idea
>> > > is to allow the ARRL to create the new award with minimal programming
>> > > changes needed to LoTW and minimal cost to implement.
>> > >
>> > > So far, this suggestion has netted over 40 replies to me in less than
>> 12
>> > > hours. Response has been very positive. I would urge anyone who
>> supports
>> > > this effort to contact their ARRL Section Managers and let them know
>> > about
>> > > the idea?and that you?d like to see it implemented.
>> > >
>> > > In the Southeast Section, we?re lucky to have Greg Sarratt, W4OZK as
>> our
>> > > representative. Greg is active on VHF/UHF weak signal already. Need to
>> > get
>> > > him on the satellites more though!
>> > >
>> > > :-)
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > 73,
>> > >
>> > > Les Rayburn, N1LF
>> > > Maylene, AL
>> > > EM63nf
>> > > AMSAT #38965, ARRL Life Member, CVHS Life Member, SVHF Member
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > > On Apr 22, 2019, at 8:11 AM, John Brier <johnbrier@?????.???> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > Would this proposed 5 band VUCC allow satellite and direct contacts?
>> > > >
>> > > > On Mon, Apr 22, 2019 at 9:01 AM David Kerl via AMSAT-BB
>> > > > <amsat-bb@?????.??? <mailto:amsat-bb@?????.???>> wrote:
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Hello Les,
>> > > >> That should generate some incentive for more V/U/uwave activity. I
>> > would
>> > > >> certainly work towards that end.
>> > > >> Dave
>> > > >> N9HF
>> > > >> el99
>> > > >>
>> > > >> "Back in my day" doesn't have a place in ham radio any more.
>> > > >>
>> > > >>
>> > > >> On Sun, Apr 21, 2019 at 10:50 PM Les Rayburn via VHF <
>> > > vhf@????.????????.??? <mailto:vhf@????.????????.???>>
>> > > >> wrote:
>> > > >>
>> > > >>> Lady & Gentlemen,
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>> Not certain if my earlier message was received. No reply from
>> anyone
>> > on
>> > > >>> the distribution list. Here it is again, in case the first one was
>> > > lost in
>> > > >>> cyberspace.
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>> In an effort to stimulate activity on VHF/UHF bands beyond 70 CM,
>> I?d
>> > > like
>> > > >>> to suggest the creation of a Five Band VUCC (5B VUCC) award that
>> > would
>> > > >>> closely mirror the 5 Band DXCC Award.
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>> Successful applicants would need to achieve VUCC status on five or
>> > > more of
>> > > >>> the VHF/UHF bands to be eligible for the larger award. A special
>> > > >>> certificate and pin could be created to honor recipients.
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>> My feeling is that this award would encourage greater activity on
>> the
>> > > >>> VHF/UHF bands, especially on bands that have less use like 222,
>> 1296,
>> > > and
>> > > >>> higher microwave bands. This increased activity encourages the sale
>> > of
>> > > more
>> > > >>> gear, helps protect our spectrum from commercial interests, and
>> > > advances
>> > > >>> the state of the radio art.
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>> Please let me know if you think this idea has any merit, or what I
>> > > could
>> > > >>> do to help support the creation of the new award. As always,
>> grateful
>> > > for
>> > > >>> your service to the hobby.
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>> 73,
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>> Les Rayburn, N1LF
>> > > >>> 121 Mayfair Park
>> > > >>> Maylene, AL 35114
>> > > >>> EM63nf
>> > > >>> AMSAT #38965, ARRL Life Member, CVHS Life Member, SVHF Member
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>> _______________________________________________
>> > > >>> VHF mailing list
>> > > >>> VHF@????.????????.??? <mailto:VHF@????.????????.???>
>> > > >>> https://w6yx.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/vhf <
>> > > https://w6yx.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/vhf>
>> > > >>>
>> > > >> _______________________________________________
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>> > > makes this open forum available
>> > > >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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>> > > >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official
>> views
>> > > of AMSAT-NA.
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>> > >
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2019 17:48:07 -0400
From: David Kerl <n9hfontheair@?????.???>
To: John Geiger <af5cc2@?????.???>
Cc: amsat-bb <AMSAT-BB@?????.???>, K7XC Tim Marek <k7xcnv1@?????.???>,
"vhfcontesting@??????????.???? <vhfcontesting@??????????.???>, VHF
Reflector <VHF@????.????????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] [VHF] [VHFcontesting] 5 Band VUCC Award
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I have completed WAS on 11 bands.
Dave
N9HF
el99
"Back in my day" doesn't have a place in ham radio any more.
On Mon, Apr 22, 2019 at 5:14 PM John Geiger via VHF <vhf@????.????????.???>
wrote:
> Probably W2SZ/1, except for the satellite VUCC.
>
> 73 John AF5CC
>
> On Mon, Apr 22, 2019 at 3:32 PM Paul Andrews via AMSAT-BB <
> amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>
> > With regards to 5 Band VUCC. I think that satellite VUCC (100 QSOs) is
> > just another band. (more accurate - Sat is a mode)
> >
> > The ARRL identifies 10 VUCC bands between 50 MHz and 10 GHz. Satellite
> is
> > just the 11th VUCC band.
> >
> > Complete VUCC in any 5 bands and earn the 5BVUCC. Am I missing
> something?
> >
> > Has anyone completed VUCC in all 11 bands?
> >
> > 73 - Paul - W2HRO
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 22, 2019 at 3:58 PM K7XC Tim Marek via AMSAT-BB <
> > amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
> >
> > > A 5 Band VUCC award sound interesting. Would it allow existing VUCC
> > > contacts already in LOTW
> > > to be used for credit or require all New & Separate ones?
> > >
> > > Currently the existing VUCC rules however state that Repeater Like QSOs
> > are
> > > NOT allowed,
> > > and that means NO Satellites!
> > >
> > > I agree with the rules as written and cant support adding Non
> Terrestrial
> > > contacts to a Terrestrial award!
> > >
> > > If we allow this to happen it muddies the waters from that point on,
> > > disrespecting everyone who in the
> > > past worked their butts off to accomplish something not easy to do. The
> > > fact it was hard made the goal
> > > worth chasing. The argument its too hard and discourages others Holds
> No
> > > Water. If you want something
> > > bad enough you will do whats needed to get it.
> > >
> > > I reject your proposal to include Satellite QSOs with Terrestrial QSOs
> > and
> > > encourage others to do as well.
> > >
> > > 73s de Tim - K7XC - DM09jh... sk
> > >
> > > Adapt, Overcome, Succeed!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Apr 22, 2019 at 3:32 PM Les Rayburn <les@????????????.???>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > John,
> > > >
> > > > My proposal would allow ?Satellite VUCC? to count towards 5BVUCC. The
> > > idea
> > > > is to allow the ARRL to create the new award with minimal programming
> > > > changes needed to LoTW and minimal cost to implement.
> > > >
> > > > So far, this suggestion has netted over 40 replies to me in less than
> > 12
> > > > hours. Response has been very positive. I would urge anyone who
> > supports
> > > > this effort to contact their ARRL Section Managers and let them know
> > > about
> > > > the idea?and that you?d like to see it implemented.
> > > >
> > > > In the Southeast Section, we?re lucky to have Greg Sarratt, W4OZK as
> > our
> > > > representative. Greg is active on VHF/UHF weak signal already. Need
> to
> > > get
> > > > him on the satellites more though!
> > > >
> > > > :-)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 73,
> > > >
> > > > Les Rayburn, N1LF
> > > > Maylene, AL
> > > > EM63nf
> > > > AMSAT #38965, ARRL Life Member, CVHS Life Member, SVHF Member
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > On Apr 22, 2019, at 8:11 AM, John Brier <johnbrier@?????.???>
> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Would this proposed 5 band VUCC allow satellite and direct
> contacts?
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, Apr 22, 2019 at 9:01 AM David Kerl via AMSAT-BB
> > > > > <amsat-bb@?????.??? <mailto:amsat-bb@?????.???>> wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Hello Les,
> > > > >> That should generate some incentive for more V/U/uwave activity. I
> > > would
> > > > >> certainly work towards that end.
> > > > >> Dave
> > > > >> N9HF
> > > > >> el99
> > > > >>
> > > > >> "Back in my day" doesn't have a place in ham radio any more.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On Sun, Apr 21, 2019 at 10:50 PM Les Rayburn via VHF <
> > > > vhf@????.????????.??? <mailto:vhf@????.????????.???>>
> > > > >> wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> Lady & Gentlemen,
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Not certain if my earlier message was received. No reply from
> > anyone
> > > on
> > > > >>> the distribution list. Here it is again, in case the first one
> was
> > > > lost in
> > > > >>> cyberspace.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> In an effort to stimulate activity on VHF/UHF bands beyond 70 CM,
> > I?d
> > > > like
> > > > >>> to suggest the creation of a Five Band VUCC (5B VUCC) award that
> > > would
> > > > >>> closely mirror the 5 Band DXCC Award.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Successful applicants would need to achieve VUCC status on five
> or
> > > > more of
> > > > >>> the VHF/UHF bands to be eligible for the larger award. A special
> > > > >>> certificate and pin could be created to honor recipients.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> My feeling is that this award would encourage greater activity on
> > the
> > > > >>> VHF/UHF bands, especially on bands that have less use like 222,
> > 1296,
> > > > and
> > > > >>> higher microwave bands. This increased activity encourages the
> sale
> > > of
> > > > more
> > > > >>> gear, helps protect our spectrum from commercial interests, and
> > > > advances
> > > > >>> the state of the radio art.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Please let me know if you think this idea has any merit, or what
> I
> > > > could
> > > > >>> do to help support the creation of the new award. As always,
> > grateful
> > > > for
> > > > >>> your service to the hobby.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> 73,
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Les Rayburn, N1LF
> > > > >>> 121 Mayfair Park
> > > > >>> Maylene, AL 35114
> > > > >>> EM63nf
> > > > >>> AMSAT #38965, ARRL Life Member, CVHS Life Member, SVHF Member
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2019 17:01:04 -0500 (CDT)
From: "WA2VOI, Donn" <wa2voi@???????.???>
To: "John Geiger" <af5cc2@?????.???>, "Paul Andrews"
<w2hro.fn20@?????.???>
Cc: amsat-bb <AMSAT-BB@?????.???>, K7XC Tim Marek <k7xcnv1@?????.???>,
vhfcontesting@??????????.???? VHF Reflector <VHF@????.????????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] [VHF] [VHFcontesting] 5 Band VUCC Award
Message-ID: <CEB69AEDBFD04696A5452A1BBF94A602@???????>
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reply-type=original
I could be wrong, but I believe Brian, WA1ZMS, holds VUCC on ALL bands
through 241 GHz,
and has since 2012 (?). Having said that, there was a band changs a few
years back... I
don't know if he's gotten VUCC on the "new" band now that the original band
is no longer
part of our allocations. (From the east coast, not western mountains, too!)
A remarkable effort !
73 Donn
WA2VOI/0
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Geiger via VHF" <vhf@????.????????.???>
To: "Paul Andrews" <w2hro.fn20@?????.???>
Cc: "amsat-bb" <AMSAT-BB@?????.???>; "K7XC Tim Marek" <k7xcnv1@?????.???>;
"VHF Reflector"
<VHF@????.????????.???>; <vhfcontesting@??????????.???>
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 9:15 PM
Subject: Re: [VHF] [amsat-bb] [VHFcontesting] 5 Band VUCC Award
> Probably W2SZ/1, except for the satellite VUCC.
>
> 73 John AF5CC
>
> On Mon, Apr 22, 2019 at 3:32 PM Paul Andrews via AMSAT-BB <
> amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>
>> With regards to 5 Band VUCC. I think that satellite VUCC (100 QSOs) is
>> just another band. (more accurate - Sat is a mode)
>>
>> The ARRL identifies 10 VUCC bands between 50 MHz and 10 GHz. Satellite is
>> just the 11th VUCC band.
>>
>> Complete VUCC in any 5 bands and earn the 5BVUCC. Am I missing something?
>>
>> Has anyone completed VUCC in all 11 bands?
>>
>> 73 - Paul - W2HRO
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 22, 2019 at 3:58 PM K7XC Tim Marek via AMSAT-BB <
>> amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>>
>> > A 5 Band VUCC award sound interesting. Would it allow existing VUCC
>> > contacts already in LOTW
>> > to be used for credit or require all New & Separate ones?
>> >
>> > Currently the existing VUCC rules however state that Repeater Like QSOs
>> are
>> > NOT allowed,
>> > and that means NO Satellites!
>> >
>> > I agree with the rules as written and cant support adding Non Terrestrial
>> > contacts to a Terrestrial award!
>> >
>> > If we allow this to happen it muddies the waters from that point on,
>> > disrespecting everyone who in the
>> > past worked their butts off to accomplish something not easy to do. The
>> > fact it was hard made the goal
>> > worth chasing. The argument its too hard and discourages others Holds No
>> > Water. If you want something
>> > bad enough you will do whats needed to get it.
>> >
>> > I reject your proposal to include Satellite QSOs with Terrestrial QSOs
>> and
>> > encourage others to do as well.
>> >
>> > 73s de Tim - K7XC - DM09jh... sk
>> >
>> > Adapt, Overcome, Succeed!
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Mon, Apr 22, 2019 at 3:32 PM Les Rayburn <les@????????????.???>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > > John,
>> > >
>> > > My proposal would allow ?Satellite VUCC? to count towards 5BVUCC. The
>> > idea
>> > > is to allow the ARRL to create the new award with minimal programming
>> > > changes needed to LoTW and minimal cost to implement.
>> > >
>> > > So far, this suggestion has netted over 40 replies to me in less than
>> 12
>> > > hours. Response has been very positive. I would urge anyone who
>> supports
>> > > this effort to contact their ARRL Section Managers and let them know
>> > about
>> > > the idea?and that you?d like to see it implemented.
>> > >
>> > > In the Southeast Section, we?re lucky to have Greg Sarratt, W4OZK as
>> our
>> > > representative. Greg is active on VHF/UHF weak signal already. Need to
>> > get
>> > > him on the satellites more though!
>> > >
>> > > :-)
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > 73,
>> > >
>> > > Les Rayburn, N1LF
>> > > Maylene, AL
>> > > EM63nf
>> > > AMSAT #38965, ARRL Life Member, CVHS Life Member, SVHF Member
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > > On Apr 22, 2019, at 8:11 AM, John Brier <johnbrier@?????.???> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > Would this proposed 5 band VUCC allow satellite and direct contacts?
>> > > >
>> > > > On Mon, Apr 22, 2019 at 9:01 AM David Kerl via AMSAT-BB
>> > > > <amsat-bb@?????.??? <mailto:amsat-bb@?????.???>> wrote:
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Hello Les,
>> > > >> That should generate some incentive for more V/U/uwave activity. I
>> > would
>> > > >> certainly work towards that end.
>> > > >> Dave
>> > > >> N9HF
>> > > >> el99
>> > > >>
>> > > >> "Back in my day" doesn't have a place in ham radio any more.
>> > > >>
>> > > >>
>> > > >> On Sun, Apr 21, 2019 at 10:50 PM Les Rayburn via VHF <
>> > > vhf@????.????????.??? <mailto:vhf@????.????????.???>>
>> > > >> wrote:
>> > > >>
>> > > >>> Lady & Gentlemen,
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>> Not certain if my earlier message was received. No reply from
>> anyone
>> > on
>> > > >>> the distribution list. Here it is again, in case the first one was
>> > > lost in
>> > > >>> cyberspace.
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>> In an effort to stimulate activity on VHF/UHF bands beyond 70 CM,
>> I?d
>> > > like
>> > > >>> to suggest the creation of a Five Band VUCC (5B VUCC) award that
>> > would
>> > > >>> closely mirror the 5 Band DXCC Award.
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>> Successful applicants would need to achieve VUCC status on five or
>> > > more of
>> > > >>> the VHF/UHF bands to be eligible for the larger award. A special
>> > > >>> certificate and pin could be created to honor recipients.
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>> My feeling is that this award would encourage greater activity on
>> the
>> > > >>> VHF/UHF bands, especially on bands that have less use like 222,
>> 1296,
>> > > and
>> > > >>> higher microwave bands. This increased activity encourages the sale
>> > of
>> > > more
>> > > >>> gear, helps protect our spectrum from commercial interests, and
>> > > advances
>> > > >>> the state of the radio art.
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>> Please let me know if you think this idea has any merit, or what I
>> > > could
>> > > >>> do to help support the creation of the new award. As always,
>> grateful
>> > > for
>> > > >>> your service to the hobby.
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>> 73,
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>> Les Rayburn, N1LF
>> > > >>> 121 Mayfair Park
>> > > >>> Maylene, AL 35114
>> > > >>> EM63nf
>> > > >>> AMSAT #38965, ARRL Life Member, CVHS Life Member, SVHF Member
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>> _______________________________________________
>> > > >>> VHF mailing list
>> > > >>> VHF@????.????????.??? <mailto:VHF@????.????????.???>
>> > > >>> https://w6yx.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/vhf <
>> > > https://w6yx.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/vhf>
>> > > >>>
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>> > > makes this open forum available
>> > > >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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>> > > >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official
>> views
>> > > of AMSAT-NA.
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