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Today's Topics:
1. Re: 5 Band VUCC Award (Greg Sarratt)
2. Re: [VHFcontesting] [VHF] 5 Band VUCC Award (w5zn@????.????
3. Re: [VHFcontesting] [VHF] 5 Band VUCC Award (Kevin Hobbs)
4. Re: Upcoming Satellite Passes--Best Tool Question (Mark D. Johns)
5. EN01 operation (Randy Shirbroun)
6. Re: sat android (John Brier)
7. Re: sat android (Hans BX2ABT)
8. Re: sat android (Doug Phelps)
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2019 17:29:48 -0500
From: Greg Sarratt <gsarratt@???.???>
To: Les Rayburn <les@????????????.???>
Cc: Greg Sarratt W4OZK <w4ozk@????.???>, "vhf@????.????????.????
<vhf@????.????????.???>, W3IZ@????.?????????? BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>,
VHF Contesting Reflector <vhfcontesting@??????????.???>, "Taratula,
Sharon" <staratula@????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] 5 Band VUCC Award
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Hello Les,
I just read all the emails sent today and now we have some good information
from folks from all around the US. I like this idea. I am on the ARRL
Programs and Services Committee and will bring it to the committee for review.
Thank you for bringing this up to help increase activity and I appreciate
everyone submitting comments.
73,
Greg Sarratt, W4OZK
> On Apr 21, 2019, at 9:50 PM, Les Rayburn <les@????????????.???> wrote:
>
> Lady & Gentlemen,
>
> Not certain if my earlier message was received. No reply from anyone on
the distribution list. Here it is again, in case the first one was lost in
cyberspace.
>
> In an effort to stimulate activity on VHF/UHF bands beyond 70 CM, I?d like
to suggest the creation of a Five Band VUCC (5B VUCC) award that would
closely mirror the 5 Band DXCC Award.
>
> Successful applicants would need to achieve VUCC status on five or more of
the VHF/UHF bands to be eligible for the larger award. A special certificate
and pin could be created to honor recipients.
>
> My feeling is that this award would encourage greater activity on the
VHF/UHF bands, especially on bands that have less use like 222, 1296, and
higher microwave bands. This increased activity encourages the sale of more
gear, helps protect our spectrum from commercial interests, and advances the
state of the radio art.
>
> Please let me know if you think this idea has any merit, or what I could
do to help support the creation of the new award. As always, grateful for
your service to the hobby.
>
>
>
> 73,
>
> Les Rayburn, N1LF
> 121 Mayfair Park
> Maylene, AL 35114
> EM63nf
> AMSAT #38965, ARRL Life Member, CVHS Life Member, SVHF Member
>
>
>
>
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2019 11:13:16 +0000
From: w5zn@????.???
To: Les Rayburn <les@????????????.???>, vhf@????.????????.???? AMSAT
BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>, Bruce <kk5do@?????.???>, Greg Sarratt W4OZK
<w4ozk@????.???>, VHF Contesting Reflector
<vhfcontesting@??????????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] [VHFcontesting] [VHF] 5 Band VUCC Award
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A 5-Band VUCC award would be nice however I'm not sure it would increase
activity on the bands beyond an individual's current effort of achieving
a VUCC award on each band that currently exists. What
advantage/incentive does it offer beyond having five separate VUCC
awards? When the 5-Band DXCC award was created individual band DXCC
Awards were not available as they are today.
Speaking just strictly from my personal situation, I have 11 single band
VUCC awards (50 MHz thru 24 GHz). If a 5-Band VUCC award became
available I would simply submit my existing individual award credits for
a 5-Band award without getting on the air. If the award required an
individual to start from scratch to achieve a 5-Band VUCC I have to
confess I have absolutely no desire to get on the air and pursue that
all over again and would not do so. From my normal operating perspective
(and I realize those of you who know me would not certify me as being
"normal") it would do nothing to increase my on-the-air activity.
What would stimulate me to get on the air more outside of a contest
weekend is something John, AF5CC, mentions below. A VUCC Challenge Award
similar to the DXCC Challenge Award where total grid count on all bands
would come in to play.
Please do not read my comments as poo-pooing a 5-Band VUCC award. I
believe it would be very nice. I just do not see how it would stimulate
and increase activity since single band awards are already available.
73 Joel W5ZN
On 2019-04-22 17:23, John Geiger wrote:
> An idea I have been kicking around would be a VUCC challenge, like the
> DXCC
> Challenge on HF, 160, and 6 meters. You add together your grid totals
> from
> all VHF and UHF bands, and include satellites, and the higher score
> each
> year would get a trophy. This should get people interested in adding
> additional bands to their setup.
>
> There could be a plaque issued when you reach some level of grid
> totals.
> For the DXCC Challenge is it 1000 band countries, with endorsements
> being
> added to that at specific levels. May 500 band grids would be the
> plaque
> level. I think that there should be some stipulation added that you
> must
> have worked say 20 grids on 3 different bands to get the initial
> plaque.
> This would keep someone from getting the initial plaque just by using 6
> meters or the satellites. I love 6 meters and the satellites, but
> doing it
> on 1 band would kind of violate the spirit of the award. Also, for the
> DXCC
> Challenge you would have to use 3 bands minimum to get to 1000 band
> countries. You couldn't do it on just 20 meters.
>
> Any thoughts on this idea?
>
> 73 John AF5CC
>
> On Mon, Apr 22, 2019 at 10:45 AM Les Rayburn via VHF
> <vhf@????.????????.???>
> wrote:
>
>> Bruce,
>>
>> Correct. For those of us ?Back East?, 6 Meter VUCC and Satellite VUCC
>> are
>> probably the easiest to earn. 2 Meters is certainly achievable
>> especially
>> using WSJT meteor scatter and EME.
>>
>> Those in most parts of the West have an advantage on microwave?since
>> high
>> spots with five grids within range are most plentiful.
>>
>> 222 and 432 are within each of most?especially if we have increased
>> activity on these bands.
>>
>> Microwave about 2.3 GHz is tougher but if you?re willing to travel the
>> five (5) grids required could be worked by yourself and a partner in a
>> weekend.
>>
>> For the record, I just achieved my second VUCC. This one on 2 Meters?a
>> feat that took over a decade to complete. I?m limited to an indoor
>> antenna
>> due to HOA. Closing in on Satellite VUCC which would give me three of
>> the
>> awards.
>>
>> Completing 432 would be possible?but likely would require a single
>> Yagi
>> EME effort from the driveway at night. My HOA will allow portable
>> operations?but everything has to be back inside when the sun comes up.
>>
>> That would give me four bands?anything else will require microwave and
>> travel. A considerable expense. But one that I?d be willing to make if
>> the
>> reward was not only 10 GHz VUCC but also the new Five Band VUCC Award.
>>
>> I really hope the ARRL will seriously consider the proposal. If you?re
>> supportive of it, please contact your Section Manager and let them
>> know.
>>
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Les Rayburn, N1LF
>> Maylene, AL
>> EM63nf
>> AMSAT #38965, ARRL Life Member, CVHS Life Member, SVHF Member
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Apr 22, 2019, at 7:52 AM, Bruce <kk5do@?????.???> wrote:
>> >
>> > So, I could do my 100 on satellite, 100 on 6m, then 100 on 2m and 50 on
>> 70cm and be done.
>> >
>> > The higher frequencies are impossible from the Houston area as we have
>> no mountains. Those in mountainous regions have a distinct advantage
>> in the
>> higher frequencies. That is why you see a large group of high
>> frequency use
>> in Europe, East Coast and West Coast. I am not saying it does not
>> present a
>> challenge everywhere
>> >
>> > 73...bruce
>> >
>> > On 4/22/2019 1:20 AM, Les Rayburn wrote:
>> >> Bruce,
>> >>
>> >> Thank you for your input. Current VUCC rules would apply:
>> >>
>> >> 6 Meters, 2 Meters, and Satellite require 100 grids confirmed.
>> >> 222 and 432 require 50 grids
>> >> 902 and 1296 require 25 grids
>> >> 2304 requires 10 grids
>> >> All higher bands including 5 GHz, 10Ghz, and laser require only five.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> 73,
>> >>
>> >> Les Rayburn, N1LF
>> >> Maylene, AL
>> >> EM63nf
>> >> AMSAT #38965, ARRL Life Member, CVHS Life Member, SVHF Member
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> On Apr 21, 2019, at 10:07 PM, Bruce <kk5do@?????.??? <mailto:
>> kk5do@?????.???>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> 100 grids terrestrial on 1296 or 2400. that is a bit rough. what 5
>> bands would it be? 222, 2m, 70cm, 1296 and ??? 2400?
>> >>>
>> >>> 73...bruce
>> >>>
>> >>> Sent from my iPhone
>> >>>
>> >>> On Apr 21, 2019, at 9:50 PM, Les Rayburn via AMSAT-BB <
>> amsat-bb@?????.??? <mailto:amsat-bb@?????.???>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Lady & Gentlemen,
>> >>>
>> >>> Not certain if my earlier message was received. No reply from anyone
>> on the distribution list. Here it is again, in case the first one was
>> lost
>> in cyberspace.
>> >>>
>> >>> In an effort to stimulate activity on VHF/UHF bands beyond 70 CM, I?d
>> like to suggest the creation of a Five Band VUCC (5B VUCC) award that
>> would closely mirror the 5 Band DXCC Award.
>> >>>
>> >>> Successful applicants would need to achieve VUCC status on five or
>> more of the VHF/UHF bands to be eligible for the larger award. A
>> special
>> certificate and pin could be created to honor recipients.
>> >>>
>> >>> My feeling is that this award would encourage greater activity on the
>> VHF/UHF bands, especially on bands that have less use like 222, 1296,
>> and
>> higher microwave bands. This increased activity encourages the sale of
>> more
>> gear, helps protect our spectrum from commercial interests, and
>> advances
>> the state of the radio art.
>> >>>
>> >>> Please let me know if you think this idea has any merit, or what I
>> could do to help support the creation of the new award. As always,
>> grateful
>> for your service to the hobby.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> 73,
>> >>>
>> >>> Les Rayburn, N1LF
>> >>> 121 Mayfair Park
>> >>> Maylene, AL 35114
>> >>> EM63nf
>> >>> AMSAT #38965, ARRL Life Member, CVHS Life Member, SVHF Member
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> _______________________________________________
>> >>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.??? <mailto:AMSAT-BB@?????.???>. AMSAT-NA
>> makes this open forum available
>> >>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>> Opinions expressed
>> >>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
>> of AMSAT-NA.
>> >>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>> program!
>> >>> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>> <https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> >
>> > Bruce Paige, KK5DO
>> >
>> > AMSAT Director Contests and Awards
>> > AMSAT Board Member 2016-2020
>> >
>> > ARRL Awards Field Checker (WAS, 5BWAS, VUCC), VE
>> >
>> > Houston AMSAT Net - Wed 0100z on Echolink - Conference *AMSAT*
>> > Also live streaming MP3 at http://www.amsatnet.com <
>> http://www.amsatnet.com/>
>> > Podcast at http://www.amsatnet.com/podcast.xml <
>> http://www.amsatnet.com/podcast.xml> or iTunes
>> >
>> > Latest satellite news on the ARRL Audio News
>> > http://www.arrl.org <http://www.arrl.org/>
>> >
>> > AMSAT on Twitter http://www.twitter.com/amsat <
>> http://www.twitter.com/amsat>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> https://w6yx.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/vhf
>>
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2019 07:29:10 -0400
From: "Kevin Hobbs" <ve3kh@??????.??>
To: <vhf@????.????????.???>, "'AMSAT BB'" <amsat-bb@?????.???>, "'VHF
Contesting Reflector'" <vhfcontesting@??????????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] [VHFcontesting] [VHF] 5 Band VUCC Award
Message-ID: <002f01d4f9c7$c554bca0$4ffe35e0$@??????.??>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Well said Joel ... I concur ! 73 VE3KH
-----Original Message-----
From: VHFcontesting <vhfcontesting-bounces@??????????.???> On Behalf Of
w5zn@????.???
Sent: April 23, 2019 7:13 AM
To: Les Rayburn <les@????????????.???>; vhf@????.????????.???? AMSAT BB
<amsat-bb@?????.???>; Bruce <kk5do@?????.???>; Greg Sarratt W4OZK
<w4ozk@????.???>; VHF Contesting Reflector <vhfcontesting@??????????.???>
Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] [VHF] [amsat-bb] 5 Band VUCC Award
A 5-Band VUCC award would be nice however I'm not sure it would increase
activity on the bands beyond an individual's current effort of achieving a
VUCC award on each band that currently exists. What advantage/incentive does
it offer beyond having five separate VUCC awards? When the 5-Band DXCC award
was created individual band DXCC Awards were not available as they are today.
Speaking just strictly from my personal situation, I have 11 single band
VUCC awards (50 MHz thru 24 GHz). If a 5-Band VUCC award became available I
would simply submit my existing individual award credits for a 5-Band award
without getting on the air. If the award required an individual to start
from scratch to achieve a 5-Band VUCC I have to confess I have absolutely no
desire to get on the air and pursue that all over again and would not do so.
From my normal operating perspective (and I realize those of you who know me
would not certify me as being
"normal") it would do nothing to increase my on-the-air activity.
What would stimulate me to get on the air more outside of a contest weekend
is something John, AF5CC, mentions below. A VUCC Challenge Award similar to
the DXCC Challenge Award where total grid count on all bands would come in
to play.
Please do not read my comments as poo-pooing a 5-Band VUCC award. I believe
it would be very nice. I just do not see how it would stimulate and increase
activity since single band awards are already available.
73 Joel W5ZN
On 2019-04-22 17:23, John Geiger wrote:
> An idea I have been kicking around would be a VUCC challenge, like the
> DXCC Challenge on HF, 160, and 6 meters. You add together your grid
> totals from all VHF and UHF bands, and include satellites, and the
> higher score each year would get a trophy. This should get people
> interested in adding additional bands to their setup.
>
> There could be a plaque issued when you reach some level of grid
> totals.
> For the DXCC Challenge is it 1000 band countries, with endorsements
> being added to that at specific levels. May 500 band grids would be
> the plaque
> level. I think that there should be some stipulation added that you
> must
> have worked say 20 grids on 3 different bands to get the initial
> plaque.
> This would keep someone from getting the initial plaque just by using
> 6 meters or the satellites. I love 6 meters and the satellites, but
> doing it on 1 band would kind of violate the spirit of the award.
> Also, for the DXCC Challenge you would have to use 3 bands minimum to
> get to 1000 band countries. You couldn't do it on just 20 meters.
>
> Any thoughts on this idea?
>
> 73 John AF5CC
>
> On Mon, Apr 22, 2019 at 10:45 AM Les Rayburn via VHF
> <vhf@????.????????.???>
> wrote:
>
>> Bruce,
>>
>> Correct. For those of us ?Back East?, 6 Meter VUCC and Satellite VUCC
>> are probably the easiest to earn. 2 Meters is certainly achievable
>> especially using WSJT meteor scatter and EME.
>>
>> Those in most parts of the West have an advantage on microwave?since
>> high spots with five grids within range are most plentiful.
>>
>> 222 and 432 are within each of most?especially if we have increased
>> activity on these bands.
>>
>> Microwave about 2.3 GHz is tougher but if you?re willing to travel
>> the five (5) grids required could be worked by yourself and a partner
>> in a weekend.
>>
>> For the record, I just achieved my second VUCC. This one on 2
>> Meters?a feat that took over a decade to complete. I?m limited to an
>> indoor antenna due to HOA. Closing in on Satellite VUCC which would
>> give me three of the awards.
>>
>> Completing 432 would be possible?but likely would require a single
>> Yagi EME effort from the driveway at night. My HOA will allow
>> portable operations?but everything has to be back inside when the sun
>> comes up.
>>
>> That would give me four bands?anything else will require microwave
>> and travel. A considerable expense. But one that I?d be willing to
>> make if the reward was not only 10 GHz VUCC but also the new Five
>> Band VUCC Award.
>>
>> I really hope the ARRL will seriously consider the proposal. If
>> you?re supportive of it, please contact your Section Manager and let
>> them know.
>>
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Les Rayburn, N1LF
>> Maylene, AL
>> EM63nf
>> AMSAT #38965, ARRL Life Member, CVHS Life Member, SVHF Member
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Apr 22, 2019, at 7:52 AM, Bruce <kk5do@?????.???> wrote:
>> >
>> > So, I could do my 100 on satellite, 100 on 6m, then 100 on 2m and
>> > 50 on
>> 70cm and be done.
>> >
>> > The higher frequencies are impossible from the Houston area as we
>> > have
>> no mountains. Those in mountainous regions have a distinct advantage
>> in the higher frequencies. That is why you see a large group of high
>> frequency use in Europe, East Coast and West Coast. I am not saying
>> it does not present a challenge everywhere
>> >
>> > 73...bruce
>> >
>> > On 4/22/2019 1:20 AM, Les Rayburn wrote:
>> >> Bruce,
>> >>
>> >> Thank you for your input. Current VUCC rules would apply:
>> >>
>> >> 6 Meters, 2 Meters, and Satellite require 100 grids confirmed.
>> >> 222 and 432 require 50 grids
>> >> 902 and 1296 require 25 grids
>> >> 2304 requires 10 grids
>> >> All higher bands including 5 GHz, 10Ghz, and laser require only five.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> 73,
>> >>
>> >> Les Rayburn, N1LF
>> >> Maylene, AL
>> >> EM63nf
>> >> AMSAT #38965, ARRL Life Member, CVHS Life Member, SVHF Member
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> On Apr 21, 2019, at 10:07 PM, Bruce <kk5do@?????.??? <mailto:
>> kk5do@?????.???>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> 100 grids terrestrial on 1296 or 2400. that is a bit rough.
>> >>> what 5
>> bands would it be? 222, 2m, 70cm, 1296 and ??? 2400?
>> >>>
>> >>> 73...bruce
>> >>>
>> >>> Sent from my iPhone
>> >>>
>> >>> On Apr 21, 2019, at 9:50 PM, Les Rayburn via AMSAT-BB <
>> amsat-bb@?????.??? <mailto:amsat-bb@?????.???>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Lady & Gentlemen,
>> >>>
>> >>> Not certain if my earlier message was received. No reply from
>> >>> anyone
>> on the distribution list. Here it is again, in case the first one was
>> lost in cyberspace.
>> >>>
>> >>> In an effort to stimulate activity on VHF/UHF bands beyond 70 CM,
>> >>> I?d
>> like to suggest the creation of a Five Band VUCC (5B VUCC) award that
>> would closely mirror the 5 Band DXCC Award.
>> >>>
>> >>> Successful applicants would need to achieve VUCC status on five
>> >>> or
>> more of the VHF/UHF bands to be eligible for the larger award. A
>> special certificate and pin could be created to honor recipients.
>> >>>
>> >>> My feeling is that this award would encourage greater activity on
>> >>> the
>> VHF/UHF bands, especially on bands that have less use like 222, 1296,
>> and higher microwave bands. This increased activity encourages the
>> sale of more gear, helps protect our spectrum from commercial
>> interests, and advances the state of the radio art.
>> >>>
>> >>> Please let me know if you think this idea has any merit, or what
>> >>> I
>> could do to help support the creation of the new award. As always,
>> grateful for your service to the hobby.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> 73,
>> >>>
>> >>> Les Rayburn, N1LF
>> >>> 121 Mayfair Park
>> >>> Maylene, AL 35114
>> >>> EM63nf
>> >>> AMSAT #38965, ARRL Life Member, CVHS Life Member, SVHF Member
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> _______________________________________________
>> >>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.??? <mailto:AMSAT-BB@?????.???>. AMSAT-NA
>> makes this open forum available
>> >>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>> Opinions expressed
>> >>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official
>> >>> views
>> of AMSAT-NA.
>> >>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>> program!
>> >>> Subscription settings:
>> >>> https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>> <https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> >
>> > Bruce Paige, KK5DO
>> >
>> > AMSAT Director Contests and Awards
>> > AMSAT Board Member 2016-2020
>> >
>> > ARRL Awards Field Checker (WAS, 5BWAS, VUCC), VE
>> >
>> > Houston AMSAT Net - Wed 0100z on Echolink - Conference *AMSAT* Also
>> > live streaming MP3 at http://www.amsatnet.com <
>> http://www.amsatnet.com/>
>> > Podcast at http://www.amsatnet.com/podcast.xml <
>> http://www.amsatnet.com/podcast.xml> or iTunes
>> >
>> > Latest satellite news on the ARRL Audio News http://www.arrl.org
>> > <http://www.arrl.org/>
>> >
>> > AMSAT on Twitter http://www.twitter.com/amsat <
>> http://www.twitter.com/amsat>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> VHF mailing list
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>> https://w6yx.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/vhf
>>
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2019 07:00:58 -0500
From: "Mark D. Johns" <mjohns+K0JM@??????.???>
To: Apostolos Kefalas <sv1ljj@????.???>
Cc: amsat-bb <amsat-bb@?????.???>, Les Rayburn <les@????????????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Upcoming Satellite Passes--Best Tool Question
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The tool within SatPC32 that you have been using works perfectly well *IF*
you set it up correctly. There is a setting for minimum elevation for the
pass. You should set that no higher than 1, or it will filter out perfectly
good passes that simply aren?t high enough to meet the threshold.
On Tue, Apr 23, 2019 at 03:22 Apostolos Kefalas via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
> Hello Les,
>
> the latest release of Gpredict [1] seems to have a Windows executable
> [2]. I do not know if it runs on Win10 but it is worth a try.
>
> 73 de SV1LJJ
> Apostolos
>
> [1] http://gpredict.oz9aec.net/
> [2] https://github.com/csete/gpredict/releases/download/v2.2.1/gpredict
> -win32-2.2.1.zip
>
<https://github.com/csete/gpredict/releases/download/v2.2.1/gpredict-win32-2.2
.1.zip>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, 2019-04-22 at 23:28 -0500, Les Rayburn via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> > I need some advice, and I promise to be grateful.
> >
> > Trying to work a sked tonight with Jeff W4EB on EO-88 and yours truly
> > made a series of newbie mistakes.
> >
> > Since becoming involved in satellites, I?ve always relied on the
> > ?Countdown? program within SatPC32 to let me know what passes were
> > coming up at my location.
> >
> > Tonight I learned that I?ve been missing God knows how many passes
> > per day! The Countdown software will only display one (1) upcoming
> > pass for a given satellite at your location until that satellite has
> > disappeared from view.
> >
> > In the case of EO-88, I actually had two passes overhead about an
> > hour apart, but only knew about the first one.
> >
> > Strictly Windows 10 PC in the shack. What?s the best tool to use to
> > help me visualize ALL the upcoming passes for the next twelve hours
> > or so at my location. I love the Countdown format, just want to be
> > able to see multiple passes from the same birds.
> >
> > P.S. The other newbie mistake was forgetting to switch my antenna
> > back to the IC-910H after doing an APRS pass earlier on the D-710.
> > DUH! I really need to invest in an IC-9700.
> >
> > Thanks Jeff for your patience.
> >
> >
> > 73,
> >
> > Les Rayburn, N1LF
> > Maylene, AL
> > EM63nf
> > AMSAT #38965, ARRL Life Member, CVHS Life Member, SVHF Member
> >
>
>
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Mark D. Johns
K?JM / M?GZO / ex-9H3DJ / ex-K?MDJ
Brooklyn Park, MN USA EN35hd
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"Heaven goes by favor; if it went by merit,
you would stay out and your dog would go in."
---Mark Twain
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2019 07:38:42 -0500
From: "Randy Shirbroun" <randydvm@??.???>
To: <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] EN01 operation
Message-ID: <34D68436BB954A808642278DBF5AC677@???????>
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On Thursday, 25 April, I plan to operate from EN01 on the mid-day passes of
AO-92 and AO-91 (AOS 1721 Z and 1733 Z respectively). This is just a
quick detour on a business trip, but hopefully I can help out a few folks
that need the grid. Note: I will not use a portable designator while
operating or uploading to LotW ? just ND0C.
73,
Randy, ND0C
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2019 20:08:18 -0400
From: John Brier <johnbrier@?????.???>
To: Hans BX2ABT <hans.bx2abt@???.?????.???>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] sat android
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The only fault is it doesn't have the time at TCA. For that I have to open
up Heavens-Above.
73, John Brier KG4AKV
On Tue, Apr 23, 2019 at 7:40 PM Hans BX2ABT via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
wrote:
> Define best?
>
> Best is that an app allows me the freedom to choose what I want to
> display and does that so in a smart way.
>
> Last year I downloaded all the sat apps I could find and tested them one
> by one. Heaven's Above omits some sats because they deem them
> "uninteresting" and of course one of them was on my list to track. Right
> now they still don't have Diwata-2 in their list and no way to add that
> by yourself! (I saw someone on Twitter crying out to HA to pleeeeeease
> include it asap). The way they display is not ideal for portable
> operation and their information is very limited, e.g. no
> frequency/doppler info.
>
> ISS Detector has it all: you can choose the sats you are interested in,
> they are all in there (incl. Diwata-2), displaying them in a clear and
> useful way and they have all the info you need, like frequencies and
> doppler shift. It even has an elevation scale next to the radar plot, so
> you can point your arrow in the same angle as your phone. Plus the alarm
> function for this forgetful old fart is great. I really can't find any
> fault with ISS Detector.
>
> HTH
>
> Hans
>
> BX2ABT
>
>
> On 04/24/2019 03:44 AM, John Brier via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> > Define best. :-)
> >
> > I prefer ISS Detector Pro because I can use the filter to select only the
> > sats I am interested in seeing passes for. Then on the main screen it
> shows
> > me each pass for the sats I've selected. Heavens Above you have to see
> ALL
> > "radio satellites" or search for an individual sat. All radio sats as
> they
> > call it include a lot of sats that I have never even heard of and I
> assume
> > are no longer functional.
> >
> > Here is a table of a bunch of apps and some reviews:
> >
> > http://sats.wikidot.com/what-apps-can-i-use-to-track-satellites
> >
> > 73, John Brier KG4AKV
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 23, 2019 at 3:36 PM 73 Bob W7LRD via AMSAT-BB <
> > amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
> >
> >> The "best" sat tracker for android phone is----
> >>
> >> 73 Bob W7LRD
> >> _______________________________________________
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> >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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> >> expressed
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> >> AMSAT-NA.
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> >
> >
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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2019 08:18:03 +0800
From: Hans BX2ABT <hans.bx2abt@???.?????.???>
To: John Brier <johnbrier@?????.???>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] sat android
Message-ID: <20136a1e-bfd4-621c-0930-2d5822585de6@???.?????.???>
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Right, it doesn't state the time, but on the radar plot it is the green
dot in the middle of the pass. If a pass takes x-minutes then TCA is
simply OAS + 1/2x, right?
Hans
BX2ABT
On 04/24/2019 08:08 AM, John Brier wrote:
> The only fault is it doesn't have the time at TCA. For that I have to
> open up Heavens-Above.
>
> 73, John Brier KG4AKV
>
> On Tue, Apr 23, 2019 at 7:40 PM Hans BX2ABT via AMSAT-BB
> <amsat-bb@?????.??? <mailto:amsat-bb@?????.???>> wrote:
>
> Define best?
>
> Best is that an app allows me the freedom to choose what I want to
> display and does that so in a smart way.
>
> Last year I downloaded all the sat apps I could find and tested
> them one
> by one. Heaven's Above omits some sats because they deem them
> "uninteresting" and of course one of them was on my list to track.
> Right
> now they still don't have Diwata-2 in their list and no way to add
> that
> by yourself! (I saw someone on Twitter crying out to HA to
> pleeeeeease
> include it asap). The way they display is not ideal for portable
> operation and their information is very limited, e.g. no
> frequency/doppler info.
>
> ISS Detector has it all: you can choose the sats you are
> interested in,
> they are all in there (incl. Diwata-2), displaying them in a clear
> and
> useful way and they have all the info you need, like frequencies and
> doppler shift. It even has an elevation scale next to the radar
> plot, so
> you can point your arrow in the same angle as your phone. Plus the
> alarm
> function for this forgetful old fart is great. I really can't find
> any
> fault with ISS Detector.
>
> HTH
>
> Hans
>
> BX2ABT
>
>
> On 04/24/2019 03:44 AM, John Brier via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> > Define best. :-)
> >
> > I prefer ISS Detector Pro because I can use the filter to select
> only the
> > sats I am interested in seeing passes for. Then on the main
> screen it shows
> > me each pass for the sats I've selected. Heavens Above you have
> to see ALL
> > "radio satellites" or search for an individual sat. All radio
> sats as they
> > call it include a lot of sats that I have never even heard of
> and I assume
> > are no longer functional.
> >
> > Here is a table of a bunch of apps and some reviews:
> >
> > http://sats.wikidot.com/what-apps-can-i-use-to-track-satellites
> >
> > 73, John Brier KG4AKV
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 23, 2019 at 3:36 PM 73 Bob W7LRD via AMSAT-BB <
> > amsat-bb@?????.??? <mailto:amsat-bb@?????.???>> wrote:
> >
> >> The "best" sat tracker for android phone is----
> >>
> >> 73 Bob W7LRD
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.??? <mailto:AMSAT-BB@?????.???>.
> AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring
> membership. Opinions
> >> expressed
> >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official
> views of
> >> AMSAT-NA.
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> satellite program!
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> >>
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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2019 00:03:02 +0000
From: Doug Phelps <DougPhelps@??????????.???>
To: hans.bx2abt@???.?????.???? amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] sat android
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I also use ISS Detector Pro.
Sent from ProtonMail mobile
-------- Original Message --------
On Apr 23, 2019, 6:39 PM, Hans BX2ABT via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> Define best?
>
> Best is that an app allows me the freedom to choose what I want to
> display and does that so in a smart way.
>
> Last year I downloaded all the sat apps I could find and tested them one
> by one. Heaven's Above omits some sats because they deem them
> "uninteresting" and of course one of them was on my list to track. Right
> now they still don't have Diwata-2 in their list and no way to add that
> by yourself! (I saw someone on Twitter crying out to HA to pleeeeeease
> include it asap). The way they display is not ideal for portable
> operation and their information is very limited, e.g. no
> frequency/doppler info.
>
> ISS Detector has it all: you can choose the sats you are interested in,
> they are all in there (incl. Diwata-2), displaying them in a clear and
> useful way and they have all the info you need, like frequencies and
> doppler shift. It even has an elevation scale next to the radar plot, so
> you can point your arrow in the same angle as your phone. Plus the alarm
> function for this forgetful old fart is great. I really can't find any
> fault with ISS Detector.
>
> HTH
>
> Hans
>
> BX2ABT
>
> On 04/24/2019 03:44 AM, John Brier via AMSAT-BB wrote:
>> Define best. :-)
>>
>> I prefer ISS Detector Pro because I can use the filter to select only the
>> sats I am interested in seeing passes for. Then on the main screen it shows
>> me each pass for the sats I've selected. Heavens Above you have to see ALL
>> "radio satellites" or search for an individual sat. All radio sats as they
>> call it include a lot of sats that I have never even heard of and I assume
>> are no longer functional.
>>
>> Here is a table of a bunch of apps and some reviews:
>>
>> http://sats.wikidot.com/what-apps-can-i-use-to-track-satellites
>>
>> 73, John Brier KG4AKV
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 23, 2019 at 3:36 PM 73 Bob W7LRD via AMSAT-BB <
>> amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>>
>>> The "best" sat tracker for android phone is----
>>>
>>> 73 Bob W7LRD
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
>>> expressed
>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>>> AMSAT-NA.
>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>>> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
Opinions expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
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>>
>>
>
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