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Today's Topics:

   1.  DM48 QSOs (Kevin M)
   2. Re: Tripod for Arrow (Gabriel Zeifman)
   3. Re: Tripod for Arrow (Robert MacHale)
   4. Re: Tripod for Arrow (KE6BLR Robert)
   5. Re: Tripod for Arrow (Bryan KL7CN)
   6. AMSAT on HF (skristof@???????.????
   7. Re: KlaTrack [ Problem Saving Settings ] (Joe)
   8. Re: KlaTrack [ Problem Saving Settings ] (Scott)
   9.  KlaTrack [ Problem Saving Settings ] (Greg Winterflood)
  10. Re: Tripod for Arrow (Ryan Noguchi)
  11. Re: KlaTrack [ Problem Saving Settings ] (Mark L. Hammond)


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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2019 06:44:51 +0000 (UTC)
From: Kevin M <n4ufo@?????.???>
To: "Kevin M. via AMSAT-BB" <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  DM48 QSOs
Message-ID: <778201126.4892828.1556088291203@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

 Bob, what did you correct? If you upload the EXACT SAME LOG, just sign it
with a different location set within TQSL, then it should correct the
details of all those already confirmed contacts. I remember making a
'location error' on a grid trip once (might have been county, not grid) and
fixed it just as described. The only QSLs that might require some other type
of 'fix' beyond that is if the person has already turned in the QSL for VUCC
credit (as the incorrect grid) on an application. If you correct things
quickly, the likelihood of that is low.




To everyone who contacted me while I was roving in Capital Reef NP last
Thursday, 4/18... I seem to have fouled up my upload to LoTW, all the
entries are listed in grid DM58 instead of DM48. I tried to correct and
upload to LoTW again, but it seems that most of our contacts have
already been confirmed on LoTW. I will be happy to send any and all of
you a QSL card confirming our contact, unless someone can tell me how to
correct my mistake so you all can get a QSL out of LoTW.

Bob N6REK




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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2019 08:25:49 -0800
From: Gabriel Zeifman <gabrielzeifman@?????.???>
To: Chris Pohlad-Thomas <chrispohladthomas@?????.???>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Tripod for Arrow
Message-ID:
<CAEGYLCu=rpzw0MDLkVNBcVmA1TKTQ2LbhHKP0DiV8T5_RtOa3g@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

I think any successful portable operator would highly recommend you ditch
the tripod and hold the antenna. It allows rapid and accurate polarity
matching and tracking and it?s really not so difficult.

73,
Gabe
AL6D/VE6NJH

On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 5:27 AM Chris Pohlad-Thomas via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:

> Can anyone please provide a recommendation on a tripod to use with an Arrow
> II? I want to make sure I find something that can handle the weight and do
> a 90 degree turn.
>
> Chris
> KC1E
>
> --
> Chris Pohlad-Thomas
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>


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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2019 18:02:41 +0000 (UTC)
From: Robert MacHale <robert.machale@?????.???>
To: Gabriel Zeifman <gabrielzeifman@?????.???>, 	Chris Pohlad-Thomas
<chrispohladthomas@?????.???>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Tripod for Arrow
Message-ID: <1135379228.574440.1556128961424@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

I like the Amazon Basics tripod w/Pistol Grip:

AmazonBasics 70-Inch Pistol Grip Tripod with Bag

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01LQX0P8Q/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s0
0?ie=UTF8&psc=1

The Arrow comes with a 1/2-20 female thread for mounting with a camera tripod.
73s
Robert MacHaleKE6BLR Ham Radio Licensehttp://spaceCommunicator.club
Supporting Boy Scout Merit Badges in Radio and Space Exploration


    On Wednesday, April 24, 2019, 9:34:57 AM PDT, Chris Pohlad-Thomas via
AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:

 Guess I need to work on my antenna-holding exercises :-)

On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 12:26 PM Gabriel Zeifman <gabrielzeifman@?????.???>
wrote:

> I think any successful portable operator would highly recommend you ditch
> the tripod and hold the antenna. It allows rapid and accurate polarity
> matching and tracking and it?s really not so difficult.
>
> 73,
> Gabe
> AL6D/VE6NJH
>
> On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 5:27 AM Chris Pohlad-Thomas via AMSAT-BB <
> amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>
>> Can anyone please provide a recommendation on a tripod to use with an
>> Arrow
>> II? I want to make sure I find something that can handle the weight and do
>> a 90 degree turn.
>>
>> Chris
>> KC1E
>>
>> --
>> Chris Pohlad-Thomas
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>> Opinions expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>> AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>
>

--
Chris Pohlad-Thomas
_______________________________________________
Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb


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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2019 11:09:18 -0700
From: KE6BLR Robert <ke6blr.robert@?????.???>
To: Ken M <va7kbm@???????.???>
Cc: "amsat-bb@?????.???? <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Tripod for Arrow
Message-ID:
<CABaTVVY33g1vTha+608oVbC7+72YHU4vzrwd69BGnLnhicFTfg@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

My favorite tripod for the Arrow is the Amazon Basics tripod w/Pistol Grip:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01LQX0P8Q/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s0
0?ie=UTF8&psc=1

AmazonBasics 70-Inch Pistol Grip Tripod with Bag

On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 10:58 AM Ken M via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
wrote:

> No doubt that holding the Arrow by hand is best, and often easiest in
> the end, but there are times when a tripod is useful and there are some
> who experiment with portable AzEl rotators and Arrows. No question the
> Arrow gets heavy in the hand after a while and a tripod with a loose
> ball head can let you manipulate the arrow by hand while still using the
> tripod to bear the weight.
>
> One problem with using an Arrow on a tripod is the lack of a
> counter-balance extension. (I wish that Arrow would sell one, but many
> have fabricated their own). With a counter-balance you can use a
> lighter-weight tripod, but without you need a heavier tripod that won't
> fall over when your antenna is pointing lower on the horizon (i.e., more
> horizontal).
>
> 73 Ken VA7KBM
>
> On 2019-04-24 10:03 a.m., David Swanson via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> > This. One million times this. I don't know why this is still even a
> > discussion on [AMSAT-BB] yet it comes up at least once a month. Just
> search
> > through the archives and you'll find roughly 500000 topics involving
> > 'tripods'.
> >
> > If you are physically capable of holding the arrow, do it. Any other
> > methods are compromises that will impair your ability to hear the bird,
> and
> > interfere with other operators if you aren't careful.
> >
> > -Dave, KG5CCI
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 11:34 AM Chris Pohlad-Thomas via AMSAT-BB <
> > amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
> >
> >> Guess I need to work on my antenna-holding exercises :-)
> >>
> >> On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 12:26 PM Gabriel Zeifman <
> gabrielzeifman@?????.???
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I think any successful portable operator would highly recommend you
> ditch
> >>> the tripod and hold the antenna. It allows rapid and accurate polarity
> >>> matching and tracking and it?s really not so difficult.
> >>>
> >>> 73,
> >>> Gabe
> >>> AL6D/VE6NJH
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 5:27 AM Chris Pohlad-Thomas via AMSAT-BB <
> >>> amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Can anyone please provide a recommendation on a tripod to use with an
> >>>> Arrow
> >>>> II? I want to make sure I find something that can handle the weight
> and
> >> do
> >>>> a 90 degree turn.
> >>>>
> >>>> Chris
> >>>> KC1E
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Chris Pohlad-Thomas
> >>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> >>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> >>>> Opinions expressed
> >>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
> of
> >>>> AMSAT-NA.
> >>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> >> program!
> >>>> Subscription settings:
> https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> >>>>
> >> --
> >> Chris Pohlad-Thomas
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions
> >> expressed
> >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> >> AMSAT-NA.
> >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
> >> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> >>
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions expressed
> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
> > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>


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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2019 11:38:18 -0700
From: Bryan KL7CN <bryan@?????.???>
To: Chris Pohlad-Thomas <chrispohladthomas@?????.???>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Tripod for Arrow
Message-ID: <5CE9F974-E184-4B8D-B893-307A5E33A2AF@?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset=us-ascii

I started with a tripod I bought at the local thrift store (Goodwill) for
$10. It was not suitable for camera work, but did just fine for satellite
work.

The tripod helped a lot when I used an HT and attempted to write everything
on a notepad.

It was like training wheels on a bicycle! While I was learning, it made all
the difference.

I noticed after some time -- and watching YouTube videos of satellite
operations -- that all the experienced operators did not use a tripod. They
held the antenna in their hand.

So, I thought I would try it.

Getting an inline audio recorder and a head set helped quite a bit. I have
heard that a foot switch is also quite helpful.

And, after not much time at all, I became quite comfortable using the Arrow
using only one hand. It is much, much better for matching axial rotation.
And, it gives you a feel for the satellite when you twist your wrist and
hear the difference in the audio signal -- in my case, it is now automatic,
like driving a car, to hand-orient the antenna while adjusting for Doppler
and glancing at the tracking software on the smartphone.

An improvement I would very much like to make is to modify the Arrow's boom
to be a LidStick, a la Mike W8LID's excellent idea:
https://twitter.com/w8lid/status/976267117183033346?lang=en

So, get a tripod but plan on using it only for a while. You will want to
switch to full manual after not much time. :)

-- bag

Bryan KL7CN/W6
Location: CM98, usually
E-Mail: bryan@?????.???
Telephone/SMS: 408-836-7279

> On Apr 24, 2019, at 06:26, Chris Pohlad-Thomas via AMSAT-BB
<amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>
> Can anyone please provide a recommendation on a tripod to use with an Arrow
> II? I want to make sure I find something that can handle the weight and do
> a 90 degree turn.
>
> Chris
> KC1E
>
> --
> Chris Pohlad-Thomas


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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2019 14:39:33 -0400
From: skristof@???????.???
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT on HF
Message-ID: <43070093dfd1f6a0028ac3dfff368a44@???????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII

I had a power outage a couple of days ago and I lost part of my "AMSAT
on HF" log. (You don't need to ask if I was keeping a backup.)

If you have had a 50th anniversary "AMSAT on HF" QSO with me, could you
please send me the info? It was most likely in the first half of April.

Thank you!

Steve AI9IN

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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2019 13:39:47 -0500
From: Joe <nss@???.???>
To: Scott <ka7fvv@?????.???>
Cc: amsat-bb <amsat-bb@?????.???>, Les Rayburn <les@????????????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] KlaTrack [ Problem Saving Settings ]
Message-ID: <6c1517b0-cc42-923c-805b-062eef2f6edb@???.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed

yup that's always the first thing I try. but nope.

Joe WB9SBD
Sig
The Original Rolling Ball Clock
Idle Tyme
Idle-Tyme.com
http://www.idle-tyme.com
On 4/24/2019 1:32 PM, Scott wrote:
> Try running it as administrator.  Most of the sat tracking programs you
need to run as administrator since Windows 7.  Orbitron is that way or it
won't save you keps updates.
>
> 73.  Scott, KA7FVV
> Director - KBARA kbara.org
> Alternate Board of Director - AMSAT amsat.org
> Co-Owner WA7DRE 443.525 System Fusion Repeater
> Co-Owner KA7FVV 147.320 KBARA Repeater
> www.ka7fvv.net
>
>> On Apr 24, 2019, at 11:26, Joe via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>>
>> You have gotten further than I.  I tried everything and it does nothing
at all here.
>>
>> Joe WB9SBD
>> Sig
>> The Original Rolling Ball Clock
>> Idle Tyme
>> Idle-Tyme.com
>> http://www.idle-tyme.com
>>> On 4/24/2019 1:06 PM, Les Rayburn via AMSAT-BB wrote:
>>> Several operators recommended the KlaTrack software tool for help with
visualizing upcoming passes from amateur satellites. It seems like exactly
what I?m looking for.
>>>
>>> Installed it on my Windows X, 64 bit machine without a problem. But I?m
having trouble with saving the settings. When I make changes, such as
entering my six digit grid square, or changing the theme, etc. Nothing
changes on the display.
>>>

>>> Restarting the software has no effect.
>>>
>>> The installation instructions say that both Keps data and settings are
stored in the ?Home? directory and that you can also start the software
using the command line. But that?s not very helpful.
>>>
>>> Any idea what I?m doing wrong? I?m sure it?s operator error.
>>>
>>>
>>> 73,
>>>
>>> Les Rayburn, N1LF
>>> Maylene, AL
>>> EM63nf
>>> AMSAT #38965, ARRL Life Member, CVHS Life Member, SVHF Member
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
Opinions expressed
>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>>> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
Opinions expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
>



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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2019 11:32:25 -0700
From: Scott <ka7fvv@?????.???>
To: Joe <nss@???.???>
Cc: amsat-bb <amsat-bb@?????.???>, Les Rayburn <les@????????????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] KlaTrack [ Problem Saving Settings ]
Message-ID: <81D9DCE2-F640-4504-943D-D1C7785B2135@?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset=utf-8

Try running it as administrator.  Most of the sat tracking programs you need
to run as administrator since Windows 7.  Orbitron is that way or it won't
save you keps updates.

73.  Scott, KA7FVV
Director - KBARA kbara.org
Alternate Board of Director - AMSAT amsat.org
Co-Owner WA7DRE 443.525 System Fusion Repeater
Co-Owner KA7FVV 147.320 KBARA Repeater
www.ka7fvv.net

> On Apr 24, 2019, at 11:26, Joe via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>
> You have gotten further than I.  I tried everything and it does nothing at
all here.
>
> Joe WB9SBD
> Sig
> The Original Rolling Ball Clock
> Idle Tyme
> Idle-Tyme.com
> http://www.idle-tyme.com
>> On 4/24/2019 1:06 PM, Les Rayburn via AMSAT-BB wrote:
>> Several operators recommended the KlaTrack software tool for help with
visualizing upcoming passes from amateur satellites. It seems like exactly
what I?m looking for.
>>
>> Installed it on my Windows X, 64 bit machine without a problem. But I?m
having trouble with saving the settings. When I make changes, such as
entering my six digit grid square, or changing the theme, etc. Nothing
changes on the display.
>>
>> Restarting the software has no effect.
>>
>> The installation instructions say that both Keps data and settings are
stored in the ?Home? directory and that you can also start the software
using the command line. But that?s not very helpful.
>>
>> Any idea what I?m doing wrong? I?m sure it?s operator error.
>>
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Les Rayburn, N1LF
>> Maylene, AL
>> EM63nf
>> AMSAT #38965, ARRL Life Member, CVHS Life Member, SVHF Member
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
Opinions expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb



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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2019 04:31:09 +0930
From: Greg Winterflood <greg.winterflood@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb]  KlaTrack [ Problem Saving Settings ]
Message-ID:
<CAPA7SM46B387=Q=8_2JAQtY6tjE4afmxSfVuFav6DgBOsqsDSQ@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

Gday Les and Joe,

I wonder if you have installed the Java 1.8 runtime environment which is
required?  You can download it from java.com.

The file  which keeps all your saved preferences can be found in your
"Home" directory here:  C:\Users\winte\KLATrack where "winte" is the first
part of my surname. Of course you will have a different identified.

73s from PG66wh

Greg

*Greg Winterflood VK8KMD*
*5 Burke Street, Alice Springs*
*EAST SIDE*
*Northern Territory    *
*Australia                         0870*


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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2019 19:28:14 +0000 (UTC)
From: Ryan Noguchi <ai6do@?????.???>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Tripod for Arrow
Message-ID: <1282105629.2745028.1556134094597@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

 There have already been a lot of good comments on the list on why handheld
antennas work a lot better if you can manage it, and I'm definitely in that
camp. My experience with my home station (an Elk on a tripod in the attic
with an azimuth-only TV rotator and a fixed elevation of about 18 degrees)
also corroborates this, as I find that mismatched elevation makes very
little difference, but mismatched polarization makes a huge difference.?

When I was confined to a fixed location, one trick that I've found helped is
to suspend the tip of the antenna to bear part of its weight. In my back
yard, I have strung up some horizontal (non-conductive) lines that are at
about the right height for me to hold the Arrow horizontal with my arm
extended and the tip of the antenna resting on the line, with line "hooked"
on the forward-most element. This saves a lot of fatigue on those long
portions of the pass when the elevation angle is low, provides added height
to reduce the workable elevation angle, and enables almost complete freedom
of rotation for polarization. I've used this approach with both the Elk and
the Arrow to good effect. It does require a little more practice and
attention with the Arrow due to the crossed geometry, but it was certainly
very workable. I have the lines strung out in three directions optimized for
different pass geometries, which was more useful for the Arrow than the Elk.
I don't use them much any more
  since I got over my fear of being "outed" and started operating in full
view of the public.?


Operating completely pedestrian-portable is also very handy if you have to
move during the pass to clear obstructions or distance yourself from (audio)
noise sources. Operating writing-hand-free can be very doable, even without
VOX. I hold the antenna with one hand, and leave the other hand free for
tuning, logging in real time, pressing the earpiece PTT switch, and
occasionally holding an umbrella.?


73, Ryan AI6DO


------------------------------

Message: 11
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2019 15:45:16 -0400
From: "Mark L. Hammond" <marklhammond@?????.???>
To: Joe <nss@???.???>
Cc: amsat-bb <amsat-bb@?????.???>, Les Rayburn <les@????????????.???>,
Scott <ka7fvv@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] KlaTrack [ Problem Saving Settings ]
Message-ID:
<CAPRXzypbZE+T37X2H5OiCzyiKpP-HXEqLpM=O7a7rJbLWxEtuw@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

Check your Java version and settings.  Mark N8MH

On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 2:52 PM Joe via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:

> yup that's always the first thing I try. but nope.
>
> Joe WB9SBD
> Sig
> The Original Rolling Ball Clock
> Idle Tyme
> Idle-Tyme.com
> http://www.idle-tyme.com
> On 4/24/2019 1:32 PM, Scott wrote:
> > Try running it as administrator.  Most of the sat tracking programs you
> need to run as administrator since Windows 7.  Orbitron is that way or it
> won't save you keps updates.
> >
> > 73.  Scott, KA7FVV
> > Director - KBARA kbara.org
> > Alternate Board of Director - AMSAT amsat.org
> > Co-Owner WA7DRE 443.525 System Fusion Repeater
> > Co-Owner KA7FVV 147.320 KBARA Repeater
> > www.ka7fvv.net
> >
> >> On Apr 24, 2019, at 11:26, Joe via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
> >>
> >> You have gotten further than I.  I tried everything and it does nothing
> at all here.
> >>
> >> Joe WB9SBD
> >> Sig
> >> The Original Rolling Ball Clock
> >> Idle Tyme
> >> Idle-Tyme.com
> >> http://www.idle-tyme.com
> >>> On 4/24/2019 1:06 PM, Les Rayburn via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> >>> Several operators recommended the KlaTrack software tool for help with
> visualizing upcoming passes from amateur satellites. It seems like exactly
> what I?m looking for.
> >>>
> >>> Installed it on my Windows X, 64 bit machine without a problem. But
> I?m having trouble with saving the settings. When I make changes, such as
> entering my six digit grid square, or changing the theme, etc. Nothing
> changes on the display.
> >>>
> >>> Restarting the software has no effect.
> >>>
> >>> The installation instructions say that both Keps data and settings are
> stored in the ?Home? directory and that you can also start the software
> using the command line. But that?s not very helpful.
> >>>
> >>> Any idea what I?m doing wrong? I?m sure it?s operator error.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> 73,
> >>>

> >>> Les Rayburn, N1LF
> >>> Maylene, AL
> >>> EM63nf
> >>> AMSAT #38965, ARRL Life Member, CVHS Life Member, SVHF Member
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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