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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: AMSAT Room Rate at the Hilton (Ed Krome)
   2. Re: AMSAT Room Rate at the Hilton (Martha)
   3. Re: Outline: Initiation through Launch & Management
      (KE6BLR Robert)
   4. Re: Outline: Initiation through Launch & Management
      (skristof@???????.????
   5. Re: Outline: Initiation through Launch & Management
      (Zach Metzinger)
   6. Re: Outline: Initiation through Launch & Management (Ev Tupis)
   7. Re: Outline: Initiation through Launch & Management (Daniel Kekez)
   8. PSAT2 downlink for DTMF grids and messages (Robert Bruninga)
   9. Re: Outline: Initiation through Launch & Management (Hans BX2ABT)
  10. Re: PSAT2 downlink for DTMF grids and messages (Scott)
  11. Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2019-08-13 04:30	UTC
      (aj9n@???.????


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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2019 15:23:10 -0400
From: Ed Krome <e.krome@???????.???>
To: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@????.???>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AMSAT Room Rate at the Hilton
Message-ID: <6AFC7B59-3EDA-4B3F-9062-1C4C28BD72A1@???????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset=utf-8

Same thing to me less than an hour ago.  Sunday went up to $249. I?d rather
send it to AMSAT!

Ed Krome K9EK

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 12, 2019, at 3:12 PM, Paul Stoetzer via AMSAT-BB
<amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>
> I don?t know why the customer service rep said that, Sunday night is
> included in the block.
>
> 73,
>
> Paul, N8HM
>
> On Mon, Aug 12, 2019 at 14:59 Glenn Miller - AA5PK via AMSAT-BB <
> amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>
>> I just finished booking my symposium room using the online chat function
>> with a Hilton customer service rep.
>>
>> The AMSAT rate is only good through Saturday night.  If you plan to stay
>> Sunday night, you'll have to book that night
>> separately (at a much higher rate).
>>
>> The CS rep said the AMSAT block of rooms was filling up quickly.
>>
>> Glenn
>> AA5PK
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Martha via AMSAT-BB
>> Sent: Monday, August 12, 2019 10:05 AM
>> To: Frank Karnauskas, N1UW
>> Cc: AMSAT BB
>> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AMSAT Room Rate at the Hilton
>>
>> The best way to register is to call the hotel directly.  If you still have
>> problems, ask for Maria, the Sales Manager
>>
>> 73- Martha
>>
>> On Sun, Aug 11, 2019 at 7:25 PM Frank Karnauskas via AMSAT-BB <
>> amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Yes, please don't flood Martha with phone calls just yet.  She is well
>>> aware of the problem and diligently working on it.
>>>
>>> An update will be posted when we have news.  I look forward to meeting
>>> everyone there...one way or the other. :-)
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Frank
>>>
>>> FRANK KARNAUSKAS, N1UW
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@?????.???? On Behalf Of Burns
>>> Fisher via AMSAT-BB
>>> Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2019 5:36 PM
>>> To: Mike McCann
>>> Cc: AMSAT BB
>>> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AMSAT Room Rate at the Hilton
>>>
>>> The hotel has had all kinds of problems with this.  I initially managed
>> to
>>> get Wed-Sun nites at the rate, but not the 15th so I could go to the
>> start
>>> of the board meeting.   Martha has been in contact with them and I got
>> the
>>> rate for the 15th.  But that was last Weds.
>>>
>>> I do suggest calling them directly at the hotel, not the central
>>> reservation line.  Push to talk to the group person if the first person
>>> can't help.  If that does not work, check with Martha (I hate to say that
>>> since she is probably flooded with these kinds of calls!)   It's possible
>>> the block is sold out, but given the trouble, I'd be surprised.  BTW, do
>>> not take the prepaid rate (which is about double the AMSAT rate, but is
>> the
>>> next cheapest thing) until all other avenues are covered.  Getting out of
>>> that is REALLY difficult.
>>>
>>> On Sun, Aug 11, 2019 at 5:57 PM Jeff Johns via AMSAT-BB <
>>> amsat-bb@?????.???>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I had the same issue for last year?s symposium in Huntsville. I needed
>> up
>>>> just staying across the street from the host hotel and, by doing so,
>>> saved
>>>> about $100 and in a newer property with better amenities. It?s not
>> just a
>>>> problem with AMSAT events, I travel frequently to many events where I
>>> have
>>>> to self-book and almost 50% of the time the ?special? codes don?t
>> work. I
>>>> would just give the hotel a call or look for less expensive options
>>> within
>>>> a reasonable distance. Best of luck and 73!
>>>>
>>>> Jeff WE4B
>>>>
>>>>> On Aug 11, 2019, at 4:41 PM, Mike McCann via AMSAT-BB <
>>>> amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Yep I used group code "RAS"
>>>>> It replies with: The requested rate is not available. View other
>>>> available rooms and rates below.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mike
>>>>>   On Sunday, August 11, 2019, 5:30:43 PM EDT, Zach Metzinger via
>>>> AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 08/11/19 16:17, Mike McCann via AMSAT-BB wrote:
>>>>>> Hello All,
>>>>>> I just tried to make a reservation at the Arlington Hilton for the
>>>> AMSAT Symposium, the Web site is saying that there aren't any rooms
>>>> available at the AMSAT rate. Is anyone else seeing this problem?
>>>>>> Mike KB2GHZ
>>>>>
>>>>> Did you use the correct link / reservation code?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
https://www.hilton.com/en/hi/groups/personalized/D/DCAVAHF-RAS-20191015/index.
jhtml?WT.mc_id=POG
>>>>>
>>>>> Group code is "RAS".
>>>>>
>>>>> I used this and set the dates for 17th - 20th, and was able to view a
>>>>> room at $150/night.
>>>>>
>>>>> --- Zach
>>>>> N0ZGO
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum
>> available
>>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>>>> Opinions expressed
>>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
>>> of
>>>> AMSAT-NA.
>>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>>>> program!
>>>>> Subscription settings:
>> https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum
>> available
>>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>>>> Opinions expressed
>>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
>>> of
>>>> AMSAT-NA.
>>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>>>> program!
>>>>> Subscription settings:
>> https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>>> Opinions
>>>> expressed
>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
>> of
>>>> AMSAT-NA.
>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>>> program!
>>>> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>> Opinions
>>> expressed
>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>>> AMSAT-NA.
>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>> program!
>>> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>> Opinions
>>> expressed
>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>>> AMSAT-NA.
>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>> program!
>>> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> 73- Martha
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
>> expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>> AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
>> expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>> AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb



------------------------------

Message: 2
Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2019 15:31:29 -0400
From: Martha <martha@?????.???>
To: Frank <K6FW1@???????.???>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AMSAT Room Rate at the Hilton
Message-ID:
<CAPk0USyrfVPOYNGYc_ro4iEBKVoFEpMWroShi1XKvEXUiNOSig@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

Just got off the phone with the Sales Manager.  She will call me back with
the number of rooms available Tuesday-Sunday.  If the block is full she
will try to add extra rooms.  As soon as I hear something, I'll let you
know.

Martha

On Mon, Aug 12, 2019 at 3:16 PM Frank <K6FW1@???????.???> wrote:

> When I booked I got the $149 rate for Oct 15-21.
>
> Frank
> K6FW
>
>
> > On Aug 12, 2019, at 11:59 AM, Glenn Miller - AA5PK via AMSAT-BB <
> amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
> >
> > I just finished booking my symposium room using the online chat function
> with a Hilton customer service rep.
> >
> > The AMSAT rate is only good through Saturday night.  If you plan to stay
> Sunday night, you'll have to book that night separately (at a much higher
> rate).
> >
> > The CS rep said the AMSAT block of rooms was filling up quickly.
> >
> > Glenn
> > AA5PK
> >
> > -----Original Message----- From: Martha via AMSAT-BB
> > Sent: Monday, August 12, 2019 10:05 AM
> > To: Frank Karnauskas, N1UW
> > Cc: AMSAT BB
> > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AMSAT Room Rate at the Hilton
> >
> > The best way to register is to call the hotel directly.  If you still
> have
> > problems, ask for Maria, the Sales Manager
> >
> > 73- Martha
> >
> > On Sun, Aug 11, 2019 at 7:25 PM Frank Karnauskas via AMSAT-BB <
> > amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Yes, please don't flood Martha with phone calls just yet.  She is well
> >> aware of the problem and diligently working on it.
> >>
> >> An update will be posted when we have news.  I look forward to meeting
> >> everyone there...one way or the other. :-)
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Frank
> >>
> >> FRANK KARNAUSKAS, N1UW
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@?????.???? On Behalf Of Burns
> >> Fisher via AMSAT-BB
> >> Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2019 5:36 PM
> >> To: Mike McCann
> >> Cc: AMSAT BB
> >> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AMSAT Room Rate at the Hilton
> >>
> >> The hotel has had all kinds of problems with this.  I initially managed
> to
> >> get Wed-Sun nites at the rate, but not the 15th so I could go to the
> start
> >> of the board meeting.   Martha has been in contact with them and I got
> the
> >> rate for the 15th.  But that was last Weds.
> >>
> >> I do suggest calling them directly at the hotel, not the central
> >> reservation line.  Push to talk to the group person if the first person
> >> can't help.  If that does not work, check with Martha (I hate to say
> that
> >> since she is probably flooded with these kinds of calls!)   It's
> possible
> >> the block is sold out, but given the trouble, I'd be surprised.  BTW, do
> >> not take the prepaid rate (which is about double the AMSAT rate, but is
> the
> >> next cheapest thing) until all other avenues are covered.  Getting out
> of
> >> that is REALLY difficult.
> >>
> >> On Sun, Aug 11, 2019 at 5:57 PM Jeff Johns via AMSAT-BB <
> >> amsat-bb@?????.???>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> > I had the same issue for last year?s symposium in Huntsville. I
> needed up
> >> > just staying across the street from the host hotel and, by doing so,
> >> saved
> >> > about $100 and in a newer property with better amenities. It?s not
> just a
> >> > problem with AMSAT events, I travel frequently to many events where I
> >> have
> >> > to self-book and almost 50% of the time the ?special? codes don?t
> work. I
> >> > would just give the hotel a call or look for less expensive options
> >> within
> >> > a reasonable distance. Best of luck and 73!
> >> >
> >> > Jeff WE4B
> >> >
> >> > > On Aug 11, 2019, at 4:41 PM, Mike McCann via AMSAT-BB <
> >> > amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > Yep I used group code "RAS"
> >> > > It replies with: The requested rate is not available. View other
> >> > available rooms and rates below.
> >> > >
> >> > > Mike
> >> > >    On Sunday, August 11, 2019, 5:30:43 PM EDT, Zach Metzinger via
> >> > AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > On 08/11/19 16:17, Mike McCann via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> >> > >> Hello All,
> >> > >> I just tried to make a reservation at the Arlington Hilton for the
> >> > AMSAT Symposium, the Web site is saying that there aren't any rooms
> >> > available at the AMSAT rate. Is anyone else seeing this problem?
> >> > >> Mike KB2GHZ
> >> > >
> >> > > Did you use the correct link / reservation code?
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
>
https://www.hilton.com/en/hi/groups/personalized/D/DCAVAHF-RAS-20191015/index.
jhtml?WT.mc_id=POG
> >> > >
> >> > > Group code is "RAS".
> >> > >
> >> > > I used this and set the dates for 17th - 20th, and was able to view
> a
> >> > > room at $150/night.
> >> > >
> >> > > --- Zach
> >> > > N0ZGO
> >> > > _______________________________________________
> >> > > Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum
> available
> >> > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> >> > Opinions expressed
> >> > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official
> views
> >> of
> >> > AMSAT-NA.
> >> > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> >> > program!
> >> > > Subscription settings:
> https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> >> > >
> >> > > _______________________________________________
> >> > > Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum
> available
> >> > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> >> > Opinions expressed
> >> > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official
> views
> >> of
> >> > AMSAT-NA.
> >> > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> >> > program!
> >> > > Subscription settings:
> https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> >> > _______________________________________________
> >> > Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> >> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> >> Opinions
> >> > expressed
> >> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
> of
> >> > AMSAT-NA.
> >> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> >> program!
> >> > Subscription settings:
> https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> >> >
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions
> >> expressed
> >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> >> AMSAT-NA.
> >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
> >> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions
> >> expressed
> >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> >> AMSAT-NA.
> >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
> >> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> >>
> >
> >
> > --
> > 73- Martha
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions expressed
> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
> > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions expressed
> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
> > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
>

--
73- Martha


------------------------------

Message: 3
Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2019 13:02:49 -0700
From: KE6BLR Robert <ke6blr.robert@?????.???>
To: Robert Bankston <ke4al@?????.???>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Outline: Initiation through Launch &
Management
Message-ID:
<CABaTVVY+WfQLxOm+BGYpVUaBVw5Wq8ZVjoCYGRyzGoUQ7X_NYw@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

This is a great topic!

In the discussions on the future of AmSat, it seems like this should be a
focal point in the objectives.

RM
KE6BLR


On Mon, Aug 12, 2019 at 12:12 PM Robert Bankston via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:

> Wasn't that included in your membership packet?
> 73,
> Robert, KE4AL
>
>     On Monday, August 12, 2019, 01:20:53 PM CDT, Ev Tupis via AMSAT-BB <
> amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>
>  Is there a general outline of the steps that are followed to get a
> satellite into orbit?  If so...point me?
> Ev, W2EV
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>


------------------------------

Message: 4
Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2019 16:04:27 -0400
From: skristof@???????.???
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Outline: Initiation through Launch &
Management
Message-ID: <e721dc6b23ec3caf5f788062ec1e82d8@???????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII

I found one from an old membership packet. It says "Place satellite on
top of rocket. Light fuse. Get away."

Steve AI9IN

On 2019-08-12 3:11 pm, Robert Bankston via AMSAT-BB wrote:

> Wasn't that included in your membership packet?
> 73,
> Robert, KE4AL
>
> On Monday, August 12, 2019, 01:20:53 PM CDT, Ev Tupis via AMSAT-BB
<amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>
> Is there a general outline of the steps that are followed to get a
satellite into orbit?  If so...point me?
> Ev, W2EV
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb

------------------------------

Message: 5
Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2019 15:32:11 -0500
From: Zach Metzinger <zmetzing@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Outline: Initiation through Launch &
Management
Message-ID: <abcc82d3-da90-8c00-7966-55c6bb357a00@?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed

On 2019-08-12 15:04, AI9IN via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> I found one from an old membership packet. It says "Place satellite on
> top of rocket. Light fuse. Get away."

https://www.engadget.com/2018/02/03/japan-launches-smallest-rocket-ever-to-car
ry-satellite-into-orbit/

Time to start building our own rockets?

--- Zach
N0ZGO


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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2019 20:48:58 +0000 (UTC)
From: Ev Tupis <w2ev@?????.???>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Outline: Initiation through Launch &
Management
Message-ID: <1587615274.3199876.1565642938919@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

 My neighbor tried that.? He's the only person in the area who can count to
8 1/2 on both hands.? He didn't "get away" fast enough.
Lol.
Ev

    On Monday, August 12, 2019, 04:09:19 PM EDT, AI9IN via AMSAT-BB
<amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:

 I found one from an old membership packet. It says "Place satellite on
top of rocket. Light fuse. Get away."

Steve AI9IN

On 2019-08-12 3:11 pm, Robert Bankston via AMSAT-BB wrote:

> Wasn't that included in your membership packet?
> 73,
> Robert, KE4AL
>
> On Monday, August 12, 2019, 01:20:53 PM CDT, Ev Tupis via AMSAT-BB
<amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:?
>
> Is there a general outline of the steps that are followed to get a
satellite into orbit?? If so...point me?
> Ev, W2EV
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2019 22:02:39 +0000
From: Daniel Kekez <va3kkz@?????.???>
To: Ev Tupis <w2ev@?????.???>, AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Outline: Initiation through Launch &
Management
Message-ID: <1677c104-87e7-4329-e856-2d8eb682d6ce@?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

On 2019-08-12 18:20, Ev Tupis via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> Is there a general outline of the steps that are followed to get a
satellite into orbit?? If so...point me?

Each launch provider will publish a Payload Planner's Guide that will
describe the environment on the rocket during all phases of launch,
which will dictate the minimum testing regime for the satellite. The
guide will also include the documentation that must be delivered as part
of that process.

As an example, Spaceflight Services has a guide for their ride share
opportunities:

https://spaceflight.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/Spaceflight-Mission-Plannin
g-Guide-Rev-G.pdf

One also needs to comply with government licensing requirements. In the
US that would be the FCC:

https://www.fcc.gov/document/guidance-obtaining-licenses-small-satellites

And I believe the FCC also requires an Orbital Debris Assessment Report:
https://standards.nasa.gov/standard/nasa/nasa-std-871914
But perhaps someone who has gone through the American process can
explain it in more detail.

Also, if the satellite has a camera, it must obtain a remote sensing
license from NOAA.

73,
-Daniel, VA3KKZ


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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2019 21:54:09 -0400
From: Robert Bruninga <bruninga@????.???>
To: amsat bb <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT2 downlink for DTMF grids and messages
Message-ID:
<CALdCfNLCrs09kkEhdLC2UD9B8uUFOLx6c9OokLL7dVM78h+Y+w@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

Thanks to Robert, KE6BLR, we can now capture the DTMF Grids and Messages
data coming down from PSAT2.  I have added the DTMF page to the list of
links for PSAT2:

http://aprs.org/sats.html

Summary:  You encode your Grid and callsign into a 16 digit DTMF memory on
your radio.  Using narrow band FM, send it on 145.98 withi doppler
compensation or at the middle of a pass.

PSAT2 assigns a CQ number and acknowledges it by voice and then sends an
APRS packet that contains the grid.  Robert's web page will capture that
packet.

A second station can send their DTMF grid and get the same process but with
a new CQ number.

Now, either station can send a DTMF QSL Message for the other guy's CQ
number which will also be spoken and recorded on the APRS downlink.

Details on the psat2 page on the above web page.
PSAT2 is entering a phase of Apogee in the northern hemisphere for a week
or so and so is more workable in the USA and southern Europe.

Bob, WB4APR


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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2019 11:42:22 +0800
From: Hans BX2ABT <hans.bx2abt@???.?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Outline: Initiation through Launch &
Management
Message-ID: <e07478d9-73d8-0a23-dc2b-cad1a638238b@???.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed

So what if the satellite was launched by Canada? It's AMSAT-NA, so
Canada is included (I presume). If the USA has too many restrictions on
launching requirements then go for a non-USA solutionm, I would say.
(But what do I know? Just looking around the corner).

Hans

BX2ABT


On 08/13/2019 06:02 AM, Daniel Kekez via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> On 2019-08-12 18:20, Ev Tupis via AMSAT-BB wrote:
>> Is there a general outline of the steps that are followed to get a
satellite into orbit?? If so...point me?
> Each launch provider will publish a Payload Planner's Guide that will
> describe the environment on the rocket during all phases of launch,
> which will dictate the minimum testing regime for the satellite. The
> guide will also include the documentation that must be delivered as part
> of that process.
>
> As an example, Spaceflight Services has a guide for their ride share
> opportunities:
>
>
https://spaceflight.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/Spaceflight-Mission-Plannin
g-Guide-Rev-G.pdf
>
> One also needs to comply with government licensing requirements. In the
> US that would be the FCC:
>
> https://www.fcc.gov/document/guidance-obtaining-licenses-small-satellites
>
> And I believe the FCC also requires an Orbital Debris Assessment Report:
> 	https://standards.nasa.gov/standard/nasa/nasa-std-871914
> But perhaps someone who has gone through the American process can
> explain it in more detail.
>
> Also, if the satellite has a camera, it must obtain a remote sensing
> license from NOAA.
>
> 73,
> -Daniel, VA3KKZ
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2019 23:46:38 -0400
From: Scott <scott23192@?????.???>
To: amsat bb <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] PSAT2 downlink for DTMF grids and messages
Message-ID:
<CAJCSnOZvC+Yn9iwZTenxK8fdfQQF88+_w8sDD1rYffcPJjVR3A@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

Many thanks to Robert for the time he's put into creating these very
informative web pages!

Bob, I have read and re-read the DTMF instructions but even though it
reflects poorly on me, I'm not sure what exact string to transmit to QSL
someone's previous CQ.

So here is my best guess - please correct as required.

My callsign/grid DTMF (that has worked once) is:  *18175453702201#

For me to QSL CQ #45 from KC9ELU, do I transmit the following?:

C4045*18175453702201#


Thanks in advance!

-Scott,  K4KDR

==========================

On Mon, Aug 12, 2019 at 9:55 PM Robert Bruninga via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:

> Thanks to Robert, KE6BLR, we can now capture the DTMF Grids and Messages
> data coming down from PSAT2.  I have added the DTMF page to the list of
> links for PSAT2:
>
> http://aprs.org/sats.html
>
> Summary:  You encode your Grid and callsign into a 16 digit DTMF memory on
> your radio.  Using narrow band FM, send it on 145.98 withi doppler
> compensation or at the middle of a pass.
>
> PSAT2 assigns a CQ number and acknowledges it by voice and then sends an
> APRS packet that contains the grid.  Robert's web page will capture that
> packet.
>
> A second station can send their DTMF grid and get the same process but with
> a new CQ number.
>
> Now, either station can send a DTMF QSL Message for the other guy's CQ
> number which will also be spoken and recorded on the APRS downlink.
>
> Details on the psat2 page on the above web page.
> PSAT2 is entering a phase of Apogee in the northern hemisphere for a week
> or so and so is more workable in the USA and southern Europe.
>
> Bob, WB4APR
>


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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2019 04:53:36 +0000 (UTC)
From: aj9n@???.???
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2019-08-13
04:30	UTC
Message-ID: <736482690.3296002.1565672016200@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8


Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2019-08-13 04:30 UTC

?

Quick list of scheduled contacts and events:

?

Loreto College, Adelaide, South Australia, Australia, telebridge via IK1SLD

The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be IR?ISS

The scheduled astronaut is Nick Hague KG5TMV

Contact is go for: Thu 2019-08-15 09:17:06 UTC 53 deg

Watch for live stream at www.ariotti.comstarting about 15 min before AOS.

?

The Children?s Inn at NIH (National Institutes of Health), Bethesda, MD
(CASIS#3), telebridge via VK4KHZ (***)

The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS (***)

The scheduled astronaut is Drew Morgan KI5AAA (***)

Contact is go for: Thu 2019-08-22 17:16:22 UTC 38 deg (***)

?

?

The ARISS webpage is at http://www.ariss.org/ ???

Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site.

?

The main page for Applying to Host a Scheduled Contact may be found at
http://www.ariss.org/apply-to-host-an-ariss-contact.html ???

ARISS Contact Applications (United States)

?

?

For many years I have on purpose not given the actual hyperlinks; I assume
the user would do a copy/paste into their favorite browser.? I am now
thinking that the browsers have all grown up and most should be able to
handle the link.? Please let me know you experience any issues.? So now you
should be able to directly click on the link.? (***)

?

Note, all times are approximate. ?It is recommended that you do your own

orbital prediction?or start listening about 10 minutes before the listed

time.

All dates and times listed follow International Standard ISO 8601 date and

time format YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS

?

The complete schedule page has been updated as of?2019-08-13 04:30 UTC.? (***)

Here you will find a listing of all scheduled?school contacts, and

questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and Echolink websites, and

instructions for any contact that may be streamed live.

?

http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf

http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.txt

?

?

The successful school list has been updated as of 2019-08-09 04:00 UTC.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf

?

?

?

The ARISS webpage is at http://www.ariss.org/ ???

Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site.

?

The main page for Applying to Host a Scheduled Contact may be found at
http://www.ariss.org/apply-to-host-an-ariss-contact.html ???

?

ARISS Contact Applications (United States)

?

The ARISS webpage is at http://www.ariss.org/ ???

Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site.

?

******************************************************************************
******************************************************************************
****************

ARISS Contact Applications (Europe, Africa and the Middle East)

?

Schools and Youth organizations in Europe, Africa and the Middle East
interested in setting up an ARISS radio contact with an astronaut on board
the International Space Station are invited to submit an application from
September to October and from February to April.

Please refer to details and the application form at
www.ariss-eu.org/school-contacts.? Applications should be addressed by email
to:? school.selection.manager@????????.???

?

ARISS Contact Applications (Canada, Central and South America, Asia and
Australia and Russia)

?

Organizations outside the United States can apply for an ARISS contact by
filling out an application.? Please direct questions to the appropriate
regional representative listed below. If your country is not specifically
listed, send your questions to the nearest ARISS Region listed. If you are
unsure which address to use, please send your question to the ARISS-Canada
representative; they will forward your question to the appropriate
coordinator.

?

For the application, go to:? http://www.ariss.org/ariss-application.html.

ARISS-Canada and the Americas, except USA: Steve McFarlane, VE3TBD email to:
ve3tbd@?????.???

ARISS-Japan, Asia, Pacific and Australia: Satoshi Yasuda, 7M3TJZ email to:
ariss@???????.???? Japan Amateur Radio League (JARL) http://www.jarl.org/

ARISS-Russia: Soyuz Radioljubitelei Rossii (SRR) https://srr.ru/

?

?

******************************************************************************

ARISS is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts.?
ARISS thanks everyone in advance for their assistance.? Feel free to send
your reports to aj9n@?????.??? or aj9n@???.???.

?

Listen for the ISS on the downlink of 145.8? MHz.

?

******************************************************************************
*

?

All ARISS contacts are made via the Kenwood radio unless otherwise noted.

?

******************************************************************************
*


Several of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and
not being able to get in. ?That has now been changed to http://www.ariss.org/

?

Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site.

?

****************************************************************************

Looking for something new to do?? How about receiving DATV from the ISS??
Please note that the HamTV system has been brought back to earth for
troubleshooting.? Please monitor ARISS-EU or ARISS-ON for the very latest
news on the troubleshooting efforts.?

?

If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for complete details.?
Look for the buttons indicating Ham Video.????????????

?

http://www.ariss-eu.org/

?

If you need some assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to
provide some insight.? Contact Kerry at kbanke@?????????.???

?

?

The HamTV webpage:? https://www.amsat-on.be/hamtv-summary/

?

?

****************************************************************************
ARISS congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100
schools:

?

Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 136

Francesco IK?WGF with 132

Gaston ON4WF with 123

Sergey RV3DR with 120

?

****************************************************************************

The webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy. Out of date

webpages were removed, and new ones have been added.? If there are additional

ARISS websites I need to know about, please let me know.

?

?

?

Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1326.

Each school counts as 1 event.

Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 1269.

Each contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot.

Total number of ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is 47.

?

A complete year by year breakdown of the contacts may be found in the

file.

http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf

?

Please feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are needed.

?

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++



The following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact:
South Dakota, Wyoming, American?Samoa, Guam, Northern Marianas Islands, and
the Virgin Islands.

?

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

?

QSL information may be found at:

http://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html

?

ISS callsigns: DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS, RS?ISS

?

****************************************************************************



Frequency chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing

Doppler correction? as of 2005-07-29 04:00 UTC

http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction.r
tf



Check out the Zoho reports of the ARISS contacts

?

https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415

****************************************************************************

?

Exp. 59 on orbit

Christina Koch

Aleksey Ovchinin

Nick Hague KG5TMV

?

Exp. 60 on orbit

Luca Parmitano KF5KDP

Alexander Skvortsov

Drew Morgan KI5AAA

?

****************************************************************************

73,

Charlie?Sufana AJ9N
One of the ARISS operation team mentors

?




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