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Today's Topics:
1. Re: PSAT2 downlink for DTMF grids and messages (Scott)
2. Doppler tracking software - max limits? (David G0MRF)
3. Re: Outline: Initiation through Launch & Management (Ev Tupis)
4. Re: PSAT2 downlink for DTMF grids and messages (PY5LF)
5. Re: PSAT2 downlink for DTMF grids and messages (Robert Bruninga)
6. Re: PSAT2 downlink for DTMF grids and messages (Robert Bruninga)
7. Re: AMSAT Room Rate at the Hilton (Burns Fisher)
8. Re: AMSAT Room Rate at the Hilton (Martha)
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2019 03:38:55 -0400
From: Scott <scott23192@?????.???>
To: amsat bb <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] PSAT2 downlink for DTMF grids and messages
Message-ID:
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Well, at the last minute before tonight's PSAT-2 passes, I finally figured
out the correct format for the DTMF QSL messages & answered my own question.
Here's a tweet w/ screen shots & audio URLs from tonight's successful DTMF
connections:
https://twitter.com/scott23192/status/1161174309328621573
I found the following page particularly helpful:
http://aprs.org/QIKcom/Q2-DTMF-messages.txt
... in particular, the instruction:
---------------------------------------------
DTMF messages are sent in a 16 key string starting with the "C", ending in #
//
CMMxxCCCCCCkkkk# Where CCCCCCkkkk are your callsign keys and key code
and MM is the message number below
---------------------------------------------
.. so, here is how it breaks down if anyone else could use the extra
help that I did.
Get your call/grid DTMF from http://aprs.org/PSAT2Translator.html
(important note: if your callsign is less than 6 characters, put a
space or 2 at the end to bring your character count to -6- before
clicking "Translate")
... so for a CQ, I use that string exactly:
*18175453702201#
However, if I want to QSL someone else's CQ, I only use the call sign
portion of that DTMF string. The string that gave me the QSL success
was:
C40455453702201#
... let's break that in its parts:
>C : message follows
>40 : message #40 is a QSL
>45 : I am QSL-ing CQ #45 (from KC9ELU as seen on
http://www.aprsat.com/dtmf ) [... or heard directly over-the-air!! ]
>545370 : the call sign portion of my original DTMF translation
>2201 : also from the original DTMF translation - simply put, a converted
'key code' that goes with the previous numbers representing my call sign
># : END of message
I won't go into the creation of the DTMF audio file here (I use
Audacity); please feel free to contact me if you need help on that. I
used audio files transmitted via Signalink at my location, but of
course if you have a radio with DTMF memory capability, that's an
option, too.
Hope that is helpful to someone else since I was so slow on the
pick-up on how to format the QSL type of message.
-Scott, K4KDR
======================
On Mon, Aug 12, 2019 at 11:46 PM Scott <scott23192@?????.???> wrote:
> Many thanks to Robert for the time he's put into creating these very
> informative web pages!
>
> Bob, I have read and re-read the DTMF instructions but even though it
> reflects poorly on me, I'm not sure what exact string to transmit to QSL
> someone's previous CQ.
>
> So here is my best guess - please correct as required.
>
> My callsign/grid DTMF (that has worked once) is: *18175453702201#
>
> For me to QSL CQ #45 from KC9ELU, do I transmit the following?:
>
> C4045*18175453702201#
>
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> -Scott, K4KDR
>
> ==========================
>
> On Mon, Aug 12, 2019 at 9:55 PM Robert Bruninga via AMSAT-BB <
> amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>
>> Thanks to Robert, KE6BLR, we can now capture the DTMF Grids and Messages
>> data coming down from PSAT2. I have added the DTMF page to the list of
>> links for PSAT2:
>>
>> http://aprs.org/sats.html
>>
>> Summary: You encode your Grid and callsign into a 16 digit DTMF memory on
>> your radio. Using narrow band FM, send it on 145.98 withi doppler
>> compensation or at the middle of a pass.
>>
>> PSAT2 assigns a CQ number and acknowledges it by voice and then sends an
>> APRS packet that contains the grid. Robert's web page will capture that
>> packet.
>>
>> A second station can send their DTMF grid and get the same process but
>> with
>> a new CQ number.
>>
>> Now, either station can send a DTMF QSL Message for the other guy's CQ
>> number which will also be spoken and recorded on the APRS downlink.
>>
>> Details on the psat2 page on the above web page.
>> PSAT2 is entering a phase of Apogee in the northern hemisphere for a week
>> or so and so is more workable in the USA and southern Europe.
>>
>> Bob, WB4APR
>>
>
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2019 11:03:06 +0000 (UTC)
From: David G0MRF <g0mrf@???.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] Doppler tracking software - max limits?
Message-ID: <1990412147.3359413.1565694186520@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Hi
Does anyone in the group know the max limits for Doppler tracking in the
currently available software packages?
I'm aware that L band from LEO is fairly comfortable, but? how about
tracking higher frequencies ?
I suppose the limiting factor could be the update rate....If the software
cannot keep up with a rate determined bythe rate of change of doppler
compared to the bandwidth of the transmission.......then the satellite
cannot be tracked successfully.
145MHz?? +/-? 3.5kHz? ish10.45G???? +/-? 250kHz? ish
Fortunately, it gets easier with light...........
Many thanks
David
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2019 11:12:49 +0000 (UTC)
From: Ev Tupis <w2ev@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Outline: Initiation through Launch &
Management
Message-ID: <1393018789.3354357.1565694769640@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Had Hans not replied, I'd have missed Daniel's informative post.? I have a
feeling I may be missing e-mails from AMSAT-BB. :-/
Happily, I have some additional reading to do.? Thank you, Daniel!?
Also...thank you to Terry (ZL2BAC) for sending me a very interesting
on-topic document, directly!
I wasn't quite sure how to deal with informative, non-snarky responses but I
figured it out. Lol.
Ev, W2EV
On Monday, August 12, 2019, 11:44:35 PM EDT, Hans BX2ABT via AMSAT-BB
<amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
So what if the satellite was launched by Canada? It's AMSAT-NA, so
Canada is included (I presume). If the USA has too many restrictions on
launching requirements then go for a non-USA solutionm, I would say.
(But what do I know? Just looking around the corner).
Hans
BX2ABT
On 08/13/2019 06:02 AM, Daniel Kekez via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> On 2019-08-12 18:20, Ev Tupis via AMSAT-BB wrote:
>> Is there a general outline of the steps that are followed to get a
satellite into orbit?? If so...point me?
> Each launch provider will publish a Payload Planner's Guide that will
> describe the environment on the rocket during all phases of launch,
> which will dictate the minimum testing regime for the satellite. The
> guide will also include the documentation that must be delivered as part
> of that process.
>
> As an example, Spaceflight Services has a guide for their ride share
> opportunities:
>
>
https://spaceflight.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/Spaceflight-Mission-Plannin
g-Guide-Rev-G.pdf
>
> One also needs to comply with government licensing requirements. In the
> US that would be the FCC:
>
> https://www.fcc.gov/document/guidance-obtaining-licenses-small-satellites
>
> And I believe the FCC also requires an Orbital Debris Assessment Report:
> ??? https://standards.nasa.gov/standard/nasa/nasa-std-871914
> But perhaps someone who has gone through the American process can
> explain it in more detail.
>
> Also, if the satellite has a camera, it must obtain a remote sensing
> license from NOAA.
>
> 73,
> -Daniel, VA3KKZ
> _______________________________________________
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2019 08:22:21 -0300
From: PY5LF <py5lf@?????????????.???.??>
To: Robert Bruninga <bruninga@????.???>, AMSAT-BB <AMSAT-BB@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] PSAT2 downlink for DTMF grids and messages
Message-ID:
<CAAy53m64HzOHLwv9k8bQVs1eCwUrr4RdUNDBXBjm143uRMk9sQ@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
Hi
Here is a short video with instructions to IC9700, FTM400, FTM100, DMTF.
https://youtu.be/0DQTbjiscP4
I hope it helps .
73
Em seg, 12 de ago de 2019 ?s 22:56, Robert Bruninga via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb@?????.???> escreveu:
> Thanks to Robert, KE6BLR, we can now capture the DTMF Grids and Messages
> data coming down from PSAT2. I have added the DTMF page to the list of
> links for PSAT2:
>
> http://aprs.org/sats.html
>
> Summary: You encode your Grid and callsign into a 16 digit DTMF memory on
> your radio. Using narrow band FM, send it on 145.98 withi doppler
> compensation or at the middle of a pass.
>
> PSAT2 assigns a CQ number and acknowledges it by voice and then sends an
> APRS packet that contains the grid. Robert's web page will capture that
> packet.
>
> A second station can send their DTMF grid and get the same process but with
> a new CQ number.
>
> Now, either station can send a DTMF QSL Message for the other guy's CQ
> number which will also be spoken and recorded on the APRS downlink.
>
> Details on the psat2 page on the above web page.
> PSAT2 is entering a phase of Apogee in the northern hemisphere for a week
> or so and so is more workable in the USA and southern Europe.
>
> Bob, WB4APR
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
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>
--
*PY5LF *
*Luciano Fabricio*
*www.falautomation.com.br <http://www.falautomation.com.br>*
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2019 08:35:08 -0400
From: Robert Bruninga <bruninga@????.???>
To: PY5LF <py5lf@?????????????.???.??>, AMSAT-BB <AMSAT-BB@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] PSAT2 downlink for DTMF grids and messages
Message-ID: <8ae731429584cd53fb6e229d20b69351@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
Luciano,
Can you test the BXX40CCCCCC# QSL messages and see if they show up on the
web page for DTMF?
Thanks
Bob
*From:* PY5LF <py5lf@?????????????.???.??>
*Sent:* Tuesday, August 13, 2019 7:22 AM
*To:* Robert Bruninga <bruninga@????.???>; AMSAT-BB <AMSAT-BB@?????.???>
*Subject:* Re: [amsat-bb] PSAT2 downlink for DTMF grids and messages
Hi
Here is a short video with instructions to IC9700, FTM400, FTM100, DMTF.
https://youtu.be/0DQTbjiscP4
I hope it helps .
73
Em seg, 12 de ago de 2019 ?s 22:56, Robert Bruninga via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb@?????.???> escreveu:
Thanks to Robert, KE6BLR, we can now capture the DTMF Grids and Messages
data coming down from PSAT2. I have added the DTMF page to the list of
links for PSAT2:
http://aprs.org/sats.html
Summary: You encode your Grid and callsign into a 16 digit DTMF memory on
your radio. Using narrow band FM, send it on 145.98 withi doppler
compensation or at the middle of a pass.
PSAT2 assigns a CQ number and acknowledges it by voice and then sends an
APRS packet that contains the grid. Robert's web page will capture that
packet.
A second station can send their DTMF grid and get the same process but with
a new CQ number.
Now, either station can send a DTMF QSL Message for the other guy's CQ
number which will also be spoken and recorded on the APRS downlink.
Details on the psat2 page on the above web page.
PSAT2 is entering a phase of Apogee in the northern hemisphere for a week
or so and so is more workable in the USA and southern Europe.
Bob, WB4APR
_______________________________________________
Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
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*PY5LF *
*Luciano Fabricio*
*www.falautomation.com.br <http://www.falautomation.com.br>*
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2019 08:53:48 -0400
From: Robert Bruninga <bruninga@????.???>
To: AMSAT-BB <AMSAT-BB@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] PSAT2 downlink for DTMF grids and messages
Message-ID: <59f7d2ea931d2b789bd29ec6473e7321@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
See in the middle of the page under DTMF messages the format for QSL:
DTMF special reversed QSL Message Format: . . . Bxx40CCCCCCXXXX#
The "C" format is for general messages.
The "B" format allows you to reverse the order of the modifier and message
number so that you can store the message number 40, or 41, or 42 and
callsign in memory and then all you have to do is manually enter "BNN" and
then play back y our prestored message 40 and call.
http://aprs.org/psat2.html
Bob, WB4APR
-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb-bounces@?????.???> On Behalf Of Scott via
AMSAT-BB
Sent: Monday, August 12, 2019 11:47 PM
To: amsat bb <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] PSAT2 downlink for DTMF grids and messages
Many thanks to Robert for the time he's put into creating these very
informative web pages!
Bob, I have read and re-read the DTMF instructions but even though it
reflects poorly on me, I'm not sure what exact string to transmit to QSL
someone's previous CQ.
So here is my best guess - please correct as required.
My callsign/grid DTMF (that has worked once) is: *18175453702201#
For me to QSL CQ #45 from KC9ELU, do I transmit the following?:
C4045*18175453702201#
Thanks in advance!
-Scott, K4KDR
==========================
On Mon, Aug 12, 2019 at 9:55 PM Robert Bruninga via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
> Thanks to Robert, KE6BLR, we can now capture the DTMF Grids and
> Messages data coming down from PSAT2. I have added the DTMF page to
> the list of links for PSAT2:
>
> http://aprs.org/sats.html
>
> Summary: You encode your Grid and callsign into a 16 digit DTMF
> memory on your radio. Using narrow band FM, send it on 145.98 withi
> doppler compensation or at the middle of a pass.
>
> PSAT2 assigns a CQ number and acknowledges it by voice and then sends
> an APRS packet that contains the grid. Robert's web page will capture
> that packet.
>
> A second station can send their DTMF grid and get the same process but
> with a new CQ number.
>
> Now, either station can send a DTMF QSL Message for the other guy's CQ
> number which will also be spoken and recorded on the APRS downlink.
>
> Details on the psat2 page on the above web page.
> PSAT2 is entering a phase of Apogee in the northern hemisphere for a
> week or so and so is more workable in the USA and southern Europe.
>
> Bob, WB4APR
>
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2019 10:00:11 -0400
From: Burns Fisher <wb1fj-bb@??????.??>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AMSAT Room Rate at the Hilton
Message-ID:
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The chat people are in central and know only what the us in the database,
which obviously has problems. I got Sunday nite with no prob. Tuesday nite
was the hard one, but Maria solved it
On Mon, Aug 12, 2019 at 3:46 PM Martha via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
wrote:
> Just got off the phone with the Sales Manager. She will call me back with
> the number of rooms available Tuesday-Sunday. If the block is full she
> will try to add extra rooms. As soon as I hear something, I'll let you
> know.
>
> Martha
>
> On Mon, Aug 12, 2019 at 3:16 PM Frank <K6FW1@???????.???> wrote:
>
> > When I booked I got the $149 rate for Oct 15-21.
> >
> > Frank
> > K6FW
> >
> >
> > > On Aug 12, 2019, at 11:59 AM, Glenn Miller - AA5PK via AMSAT-BB <
> > amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
> > >
> > > I just finished booking my symposium room using the online chat
> function
> > with a Hilton customer service rep.
> > >
> > > The AMSAT rate is only good through Saturday night. If you plan to
> stay
> > Sunday night, you'll have to book that night separately (at a much higher
> > rate).
> > >
> > > The CS rep said the AMSAT block of rooms was filling up quickly.
> > >
> > > Glenn
> > > AA5PK
> > >
> > > -----Original Message----- From: Martha via AMSAT-BB
> > > Sent: Monday, August 12, 2019 10:05 AM
> > > To: Frank Karnauskas, N1UW
> > > Cc: AMSAT BB
> > > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AMSAT Room Rate at the Hilton
> > >
> > > The best way to register is to call the hotel directly. If you still
> > have
> > > problems, ask for Maria, the Sales Manager
> > >
> > > 73- Martha
> > >
> > > On Sun, Aug 11, 2019 at 7:25 PM Frank Karnauskas via AMSAT-BB <
> > > amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
> > >
> > >>
> > >> Yes, please don't flood Martha with phone calls just yet. She is well
> > >> aware of the problem and diligently working on it.
> > >>
> > >> An update will be posted when we have news. I look forward to meeting
> > >> everyone there...one way or the other. :-)
> > >>
> > >> Cheers,
> > >> Frank
> > >>
> > >> FRANK KARNAUSKAS, N1UW
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@?????.???? On Behalf Of Burns
> > >> Fisher via AMSAT-BB
> > >> Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2019 5:36 PM
> > >> To: Mike McCann
> > >> Cc: AMSAT BB
> > >> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AMSAT Room Rate at the Hilton
> > >>
> > >> The hotel has had all kinds of problems with this. I initially
> managed
> > to
> > >> get Wed-Sun nites at the rate, but not the 15th so I could go to the
> > start
> > >> of the board meeting. Martha has been in contact with them and I got
> > the
> > >> rate for the 15th. But that was last Weds.
> > >>
> > >> I do suggest calling them directly at the hotel, not the central
> > >> reservation line. Push to talk to the group person if the first
> person
> > >> can't help. If that does not work, check with Martha (I hate to say
> > that
> > >> since she is probably flooded with these kinds of calls!) It's
> > possible
> > >> the block is sold out, but given the trouble, I'd be surprised. BTW,
> do
> > >> not take the prepaid rate (which is about double the AMSAT rate, but
> is
> > the
> > >> next cheapest thing) until all other avenues are covered. Getting out
> > of
> > >> that is REALLY difficult.
> > >>
> > >> On Sun, Aug 11, 2019 at 5:57 PM Jeff Johns via AMSAT-BB <
> > >> amsat-bb@?????.???>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > I had the same issue for last year?s symposium in Huntsville. I
> > needed up
> > >> > just staying across the street from the host hotel and, by doing so,
> > >> saved
> > >> > about $100 and in a newer property with better amenities. It?s not
> > just a
> > >> > problem with AMSAT events, I travel frequently to many events where
> I
> > >> have
> > >> > to self-book and almost 50% of the time the ?special? codes don?t
> > work. I
> > >> > would just give the hotel a call or look for less expensive options
> > >> within
> > >> > a reasonable distance. Best of luck and 73!
> > >> >
> > >> > Jeff WE4B
> > >> >
> > >> > > On Aug 11, 2019, at 4:41 PM, Mike McCann via AMSAT-BB <
> > >> > amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Yep I used group code "RAS"
> > >> > > It replies with: The requested rate is not available. View other
> > >> > available rooms and rates below.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Mike
> > >> > > On Sunday, August 11, 2019, 5:30:43 PM EDT, Zach Metzinger via
> > >> > AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
> > >> > >
> > >> > > On 08/11/19 16:17, Mike McCann via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> > >> > >> Hello All,
> > >> > >> I just tried to make a reservation at the Arlington Hilton for
> the
> > >> > AMSAT Symposium, the Web site is saying that there aren't any rooms
> > >> > available at the AMSAT rate. Is anyone else seeing this problem?
> > >> > >> Mike KB2GHZ
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Did you use the correct link / reservation code?
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> >
> > >>
> >
>
https://www.hilton.com/en/hi/groups/personalized/D/DCAVAHF-RAS-20191015/index.
jhtml?WT.mc_id=POG
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Group code is "RAS".
> > >> > >
> > >> > > I used this and set the dates for 17th - 20th, and was able to
> view
> > a
> > >> > > room at $150/night.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > --- Zach
> > >> > > N0ZGO
> > >> > > _______________________________________________
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> > views
> > >> of
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2019 12:02:02 -0400
From: Martha <martha@?????.???>
To: Burns Fisher <wb1fj-bb@??????.??>, Ed Krome <e.krome@???????.???>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AMSAT Room Rate at the Hilton
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Rooms have been added to Tuesday and Wednesday (7 each). Sunday 25 rooms
were added.
Good Luck
On Tue, Aug 13, 2019 at 10:01 AM Burns Fisher via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
> The chat people are in central and know only what the us in the database,
> which obviously has problems. I got Sunday nite with no prob. Tuesday nite
> was the hard one, but Maria solved it
>
> On Mon, Aug 12, 2019 at 3:46 PM Martha via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
> wrote:
>
> > Just got off the phone with the Sales Manager. She will call me back
> with
> > the number of rooms available Tuesday-Sunday. If the block is full she
> > will try to add extra rooms. As soon as I hear something, I'll let you
> > know.
> >
> > Martha
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 12, 2019 at 3:16 PM Frank <K6FW1@???????.???> wrote:
> >
> > > When I booked I got the $149 rate for Oct 15-21.
> > >
> > > Frank
> > > K6FW
> > >
> > >
> > > > On Aug 12, 2019, at 11:59 AM, Glenn Miller - AA5PK via AMSAT-BB <
> > > amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I just finished booking my symposium room using the online chat
> > function
> > > with a Hilton customer service rep.
> > > >
> > > > The AMSAT rate is only good through Saturday night. If you plan to
> > stay
> > > Sunday night, you'll have to book that night separately (at a much
> higher
> > > rate).
> > > >
> > > > The CS rep said the AMSAT block of rooms was filling up quickly.
> > > >
> > > > Glenn
> > > > AA5PK
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message----- From: Martha via AMSAT-BB
> > > > Sent: Monday, August 12, 2019 10:05 AM
> > > > To: Frank Karnauskas, N1UW
> > > > Cc: AMSAT BB
> > > > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AMSAT Room Rate at the Hilton
> > > >
> > > > The best way to register is to call the hotel directly. If you still
> > > have
> > > > problems, ask for Maria, the Sales Manager
> > > >
> > > > 73- Martha
> > > >
> > > > On Sun, Aug 11, 2019 at 7:25 PM Frank Karnauskas via AMSAT-BB <
> > > > amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >>
> > > >> Yes, please don't flood Martha with phone calls just yet. She is
> well
> > > >> aware of the problem and diligently working on it.
> > > >>
> > > >> An update will be posted when we have news. I look forward to
> meeting
> > > >> everyone there...one way or the other. :-)
> > > >>
> > > >> Cheers,
> > > >> Frank
> > > >>
> > > >> FRANK KARNAUSKAS, N1UW
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > >> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@?????.???? On Behalf Of
> Burns
> > > >> Fisher via AMSAT-BB
> > > >> Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2019 5:36 PM
> > > >> To: Mike McCann
> > > >> Cc: AMSAT BB
> > > >> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AMSAT Room Rate at the Hilton
> > > >>
> > > >> The hotel has had all kinds of problems with this. I initially
> > managed
> > > to
> > > >> get Wed-Sun nites at the rate, but not the 15th so I could go to the
> > > start
> > > >> of the board meeting. Martha has been in contact with them and I
> got
> > > the
> > > >> rate for the 15th. But that was last Weds.
> > > >>
> > > >> I do suggest calling them directly at the hotel, not the central
> > > >> reservation line. Push to talk to the group person if the first
> > person
> > > >> can't help. If that does not work, check with Martha (I hate to say
> > > that
> > > >> since she is probably flooded with these kinds of calls!) It's
> > > possible
> > > >> the block is sold out, but given the trouble, I'd be surprised.
> BTW,
> > do
> > > >> not take the prepaid rate (which is about double the AMSAT rate, but
> > is
> > > the
> > > >> next cheapest thing) until all other avenues are covered. Getting
> out
> > > of
> > > >> that is REALLY difficult.
> > > >>
> > > >> On Sun, Aug 11, 2019 at 5:57 PM Jeff Johns via AMSAT-BB <
> > > >> amsat-bb@?????.???>
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> > I had the same issue for last year?s symposium in Huntsville. I
> > > needed up
> > > >> > just staying across the street from the host hotel and, by doing
> so,
> > > >> saved
> > > >> > about $100 and in a newer property with better amenities. It?s not
> > > just a
> > > >> > problem with AMSAT events, I travel frequently to many events
> where
> > I
> > > >> have
> > > >> > to self-book and almost 50% of the time the ?special? codes don?t
> > > work. I
> > > >> > would just give the hotel a call or look for less expensive
> options
> > > >> within
> > > >> > a reasonable distance. Best of luck and 73!
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Jeff WE4B
> > > >> >
> > > >> > > On Aug 11, 2019, at 4:41 PM, Mike McCann via AMSAT-BB <
> > > >> > amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > Yep I used group code "RAS"
> > > >> > > It replies with: The requested rate is not available. View other
> > > >> > available rooms and rates below.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > Mike
> > > >> > > On Sunday, August 11, 2019, 5:30:43 PM EDT, Zach Metzinger
> via
> > > >> > AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > On 08/11/19 16:17, Mike McCann via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> > > >> > >> Hello All,
> > > >> > >> I just tried to make a reservation at the Arlington Hilton for
> > the
> > > >> > AMSAT Symposium, the Web site is saying that there aren't any
> rooms
> > > >> > available at the AMSAT rate. Is anyone else seeing this problem?
> > > >> > >> Mike KB2GHZ
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > Did you use the correct link / reservation code?
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> >
> > > >>
> > >
> >
>
https://www.hilton.com/en/hi/groups/personalized/D/DCAVAHF-RAS-20191015/index.
jhtml?WT.mc_id=POG
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > Group code is "RAS".
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > I used this and set the dates for 17th - 20th, and was able to
> > view
> > > a
> > > >> > > room at $150/night.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > --- Zach
> > > >> > > N0ZGO
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> > > > --
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73- Martha
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