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Today's Topics:
1. Re: ARISS funding (Zach Metzinger)
2. Re: ARISS funding (kw4wz@?????.????
3. Re: Update: Rent GEO bandwidth for US (emergency messaging)
(Robert Bruninga)
4. Re: Disaster (Michelle Thompson)
5. Update: Rent GEO bandwidth for US (Daniel Schultz)
6. Re: ARISS funding (Paul Stoetzer)
7. Old AMSAT FTP site. (vk2tfg)
8. MSPE Error NO-5 (Vincenzo Mone)
9. Tweet by KC9SGV on Twitter (KC9SGV)
10. Dish size required for Echostar 9 (KC9SGV)
11. Echostar 9 test cards (KC9SGV)
12. Re: Echostar 9 test cards (Dave Webb KB1PVH)
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2019 16:20:42 -0500
From: Zach Metzinger <zmetzing@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] ARISS funding
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On 2019-08-22 15:53, Jerry Buxton via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> Please don't confuse or commingle
> discussions of ARISS fundraising with AMSAT fundraising and the
> proliferation of ham radio in space.
Jerry,
No confusion intended. I was simply responding to Frank's original
email, sent to the AMSAT-BB reflector as a follow-up to Michelle's
rent-a-GEO discussion.
Given a limited pool of dollars, I'd rather see those dollars go toward
something that any licensed amateur can use on our allocated frequencies
anytime it is visible.
--- Zach
N0ZGO
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2019 16:26:00 -0400
From: kw4wz@?????.???
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] ARISS funding
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Personally, I think the school contacts alone justify the ARISS program.
Having amateur radio be a part of human spaceflight is an excellent
way to promote the hobby.
But we need the new hardware to get the APRS system back full time.
Watching the ISS fly over while working the APRS rig is a great experience.
Besides school contacts, there have been six SSTV events this year that
have been very popular. Over 19 thousand reception reports were
submitted from around the globe.
73,
Will KW4WZ
On 8/22/19 3:39 PM, John Brier via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> The Kenwood radios in the Russian service module are used for school
> contacts almost every week. Just check the "Upcoming ARISS Contact
> schedule" emails that go to this list.
>
> You are right that, currently, ham equipment is not on and in use on
> every orbit, but it used to be. In the Columbus module there is an
> Erricson HT that was used for US and other non-Russian school contacts
> and also, the 145.825 digipeater. That used to be on whenever there
> wasn't a school contact, a docking/undocking, or some experiment that
> necessitated it being off. The reason it is listed as "rarely used" is
> because it's broken/on the fritz and that is the reason for the money
> request! The data you point to is not an indication of lack of usage,
> it's a symptom of the problem that keeps it from being used.
>
> The money is needed for a new radio that would allow a similar
> situation, a (probably) usually on UHF/VHF crossband voice repeater in
> the form of a modified Kenwod TM-D710GA that the astronauts could jump
> onto. It will also do digipeating and SSTV.
>
> The "rarely used" at least for the voice frequencies is to keep people
> from getting their hopes up to make a random unscheduled contact.
> Those are indeed rare, but even with the equipment we have now, it
> gets used and it affects thousands of students every year, not to
> mention hams. I'm sure someone from ARISS can speak to this, more
> accurately and better, than me.
>
> 73, John Brier KG4AKV
...
--
Will Marchant, KW4WZ
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2019 17:43:18 -0400
From: Robert Bruninga <bruninga@????.???>
To: AMSAT-BB <AMSAT-BB@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Update: Rent GEO bandwidth for US (emergency
messaging)
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We just looked at the 6 APRS active LEO satellites and about half the
time, you are no more than 30 minutes from a next pass, 75% of the time
you are less than 60 minutes to the next pass and 93% of the time your
next pass is within 90 minutes as shown in the plot on the APRS live
downlink pages:
http://aprs.org/sats.html
Though, admittedly the page is now showing ISS has not been heard in 10
days and PCSAT is only surviving about 1 minute per pass, and PSAT is
about to come in to good sun in a week or so. But the idea is that if we
just add APRS digipeaters on more birds, we can approach near continuous
coverage for texting and emailing form an HT anywhere on earth (at
reasonable latitudes),...
Something to keep in the quiver for disaster and emergency messaging from
remote areas.
Bob, WB4aPR
-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb-bounces@?????.???> On Behalf Of Michelle Thompson
via AMSAT-BB
Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2019 11:43 AM
To: David Swanson <dave@?????????????.???>
Cc: <,amsat-bb@?????.??????? <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Update: Rent GEO bandwidth for US
The idea originally came from FEMA and ARRL. It has been presented at
Symposium at least twice.
As a former EMT, I have used a variety emergency communications equipment
for drills and duty. I got all the ICS certifications and listened to lots
and lots of schemes, proposals, and marketing from all the usual suspects,
went to classes for CEUs where strange things were recommended that would
never work, and did things that were essentially hacks with equipment that
should have been retired before I was born. My views on emcomm are
conservative and largely immaterial. If FEMA is interested in this, then
finding out if it works is worth my time.
No AMSAT resources (e.g. money) are being asked for or are needed for
this.
It can only help AMSAT if it works, but if it doesn't, there's no harm
done to the club. We're supposed to experiment and advance the radio arts.
We need to understand what it means to rent transponder space.
When companies that are motivated to support amateur radio step up and do,
the least we can do is listen, weigh, consider, and take them up on it if
it looks like it would result in something positive. I believe this is one
of those opportunities, and I'm willing to do the due diligence and see
how far we can get.
In short, It is both/and, not either/or.
-Michelle W5NYV
On Thu, Aug 22, 2019 at 8:22 AM David Swanson via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
> The 'last mile' segment in this proposal is amateur spectrum yes, but
> that segment could also very easily be commercial or public safety
> spectrum as well. Heck, with a meg of bandwidth at 10g+ on your
> 'backbone' you could very easily establish a somewhat respectable
> packet link and then just have your "Aggregator" be nothing more than
> a wifi hotspot, which opens up all sorts of communication applications
> beyond simple push button HTs. If you're truly looking at this from an
> EMCOMM perspective, then the primary goal of the ESF-2 annex is
> 'communications infrastructure restoration' - which is ranked higher
> than 'tactical communications' anyway. Why screw with sending people
> with their HT's out to act as relays, when a pelican case with a dish
> and a Linksys can get everyone back on the net in 5 minutes?
>
> Therefore, I'm confused on why this is being brought up here other
> than solicitation by folks who wear multiple hats. There is precisely
> zero benefit to AMSAT or ARRL getting involved, and committing their
> scarce resources to a project that won't benefit amateurs. No contact
> made thru this proposed method will be a valid 'qso' for folks
> interested in that sort of thing. No expertise or engineering will be
required of the 'users'
> of the system, other than to tune their device to whatever frequency
> the Aggregator builders require of them. The only folks that would
> benefit from such a proposal are the aggregator builders themselves,
> and possibly the public - and I say possibly because commercial
> systems like your proposal already exist and are in common use by
> organizations that respond to disasters. For 60 bucks a week I can
> rent a basic Inmarsat turn key solution, take it anywhere on the
> planet, and let any of the workers I'm supporting send and receive
> emails while I do something productive towards saving lives instead of
mashing my PTT button 23 hours a day.
>
> The idea is cool, but only from the perspective of the people getting
> to build it. For those us who've actually been in the shit trying to
> help re-establish comms after a real disaster, we've all learned once
> the cell phones and internet comes back online, no one gives a crap
> about our radios. The moment the Verizon truck rolls up with the 3m
> dish and portable tower trailer, our work is done. The *real* use for
> Ham in disasters these days is the basic idea that our gear can
> establish communications without some sort of proprietary
> middle-hardware needed. Don't believe me? I'd be happy to send you my
> graduate research paper on DPEM Applications of Geo-Synchronous
> Satellites I did a few years back. There are applications for our
> hobby in disasters, find some spectrum to rent on a Geo-bird that I
> (or some ham in the mountains of western Puerto Rico) can use directly
> and I'll be the first one to donate. Until then, for 24k a year AMSAT
> could probably launch another pair of Fox's that would be *actual*
amateur satellites.
>
> -Dave, KG5CCI
>
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 22, 2019 at 8:13 AM KC9SGV via AMSAT-BB
> <amsat-bb@?????.???>
> wrote:
>
> > Grrrr..
> > Replies to the list via email with pictures attached get wiped !
> > We need a modern BB or forum like AMSAT-DL....
> >
> > Here goes to the BB list again without pictures:
> >
> > We could go RF HF or VHF into the aggregator like we do into
> > Echolink nodes.
> > The aggregator then send the signal via commercial RF into the
satellite.
> > Of course, this signal will be degraded by HF multi path and VHF
> > distance constraints.
> > Still an Emcomm use here.
> >
> > Or, we could forego the Emcomm utility, use the Internet, and go
> > into the aggregator via Echolink audio (computer to computer) or
> > even use Skype, like in the early days of remote HF station use.
> > Of course we could also use the gold standard audio of the free
> > RCForb remote HF station software as found on www.remotehams.com A
> > R&D use here.
> >
> > KC9SGV
> > Sent from my iPad
> >
> > > On Aug 22, 2019, at 7:01 AM, KC9SGV <kc9sgv@?????.???> wrote:
> > >
> > > We could go RF HF or VHF into the aggregator like we do into
> > > Echolink
> > nodes.
> > > The aggregator then send the signal via commercial RF into the
> satellite.
> > > Of course, this signal will be degraded by HF multi path and VHF
> > distance constraints.
> > > Still an Emcomm use here.
> > >
> > > Or, we could forego the Emcomm utility, use the Internet, and go
> > > into
> > the aggregator via Echolink audio (computer to computer) or even use
> Skype,
> > like in the early days of remote HF station use.
> > > Of course we could also use the gold standard audio of the free
> > > RCForb
> > remote HF station software as found on www.remotehams.com
> > > A R&D use here.
> > > Like this :
> > > <image1.PNG>
> > >
> > >
> > > Bernard,
> > > KC9SGV
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPad
> > >
> > >> On Aug 22, 2019, at 6:25 AM, John Kludt via AMSAT-BB <
> > amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Ev,
> > >>
> > >> But the aggregator can't uplink directly to the satellite as the
> uplink
> > is outside of the amateur bands. So the aggregator must send
> > everything
> to
> > an earth station with a commercial license, correct?
> > >>
> > >> Would the aggregator be single channel or work more like a linear
> > transponder sending along multiple signals in mixed modes at once?
> > >>
> > >> Unless I am wrong, the aggregator must be colocated with the
> commercial
> > earth station or we are back into Internet required land thereby
> decreasing
> > the encomm utility of this effort.
> > >>
> > >> Sancho
> > >>
> > >> Sent from my Verizon Motorola Smartphone
> > >>> On Aug 21, 2019 22:34, Ev Tupis via AMSAT-BB
> > >>> <amsat-bb@?????.???>
> > wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> Hi Michelle,
> > >>> What a fascinating opportunity. I'd like to try to describe
> > >>> this
> > using different words to see if I get it.
> > >>> Echostar 9 is a geosynchronous satellite with 1 MHz of spectrum
> > >>> to
> > sell.
> > >>> Both the up and down frequencies are outside of the amateur bands.
> > >>> To use it, an aggregator is needed. An aggregator is a "bridge"
> > device that converts amateur-band RF to satellite uplink RF and
> > setellite downlink RF to amateur-band RF.
> > >>> Amateurs simply need to be in range of an aggregator. It is the
> > aggregators responsibility to remain aimed at the satellite.
> > >>>
> > >>> The aggregator determines if it will bridge FM or Linear (SSB,
> > >>> CW,
> > PSK31, etc.) modes.
> > >>> Is this right?
> > >>> Regards,Ev, W2EV
> > >>>
> > >>> On Wednesday, August 21, 2019, 9:38:12 PM EDT, Michelle
> > >>> Thompson
> > via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> An arrangement on Echostar9 for 1MHz of bandwidth for up to 4
> > >>> years
> of
> > >>> USA+Mexico+Canada coverage is on offer for $2000 a month.
> > >>>
> > >>> I'm putting together a grant proposal for ARRL, FEMA, and others
> > >>> to
> > pay for
> > >>> at least year of access. I've gotten some positive feedback
already.
> I
> > >>> think we can make this happen with some fundraising effort. I'm
> > willing to
> > >>> provide the human resources and whatever incidental financing
> > >>> needs
> to
> > >>> happen to secure a grant for rental.
> > >>>
> > >>> The main purpose of this type of system would be to enable field
> > deployment
> > >>> of "legacy mode" aggregators, like the Phase 4 Ground ARAP
> > >>> (Amateur
> > Radio
> > >>> Access Point). This is where traffic on any ham band, using FM
> > >>> or
> > analog
> > >>> gear, is digitized by a local "collecting" repeater, and is then
> > >>> sent
> > to a
> > >>> satellite from that repeater. FEMA and ARRL have expressed a lot
> > >>> of interest and support for this in the past. Phase 4 Ground
> > >>> needs an
> > ARAP in
> > >>> order to support legacy radios.
> > >>>
> > >>> You don't have to personally have a microwave digital uplink.
> > >>> The aggregator equipment does that part for you.
> > >>>
> > >>> This is most useful for public service and emergency
communications.
> A
> > >>> communications emergency is declared, someone (FEMA, Red Cross,
> > motivated
> > >>> ham volunteer) drops in the aggregator, and all ham traffic it
> > >>> hears
> is
> > >>> sent to the satellite and then transmitted to the entire
footprint.
> > >>>
> > >>> The downlink is 12-14GHz. This is not 10GHz, but is receivable
> > >>> by individuals using very inexpensive gear. Traffic can be
> > >>> repeated over
> > the
> > >>> internet.
> > >>>
> > >>> What does this get us?
> > >>>
> > >>> An opportunity to do all the R&D for the aggregator and get some
> > experience
> > >>> with uplinks.
> > >>>
> > >>> What do we not have?
> > >>>
> > >>> A true ham band downlink. You can still receive the downlink
> yourself,
> > or
> > >>> you can get it over the internet from an earth station
distributor.
> > >>>
> > >>> That's where we're at with *this* proposal.
> > >>>
> > >>> I think it's worth it to provide a US-based way to design,
> > >>> deploy,
> > test,
> > >>> and use real world aggregator equipment. We learn a lot about
> > >>> GEO
> > comms and
> > >>> figure out a lot of the ins and outs.
> > >>>
> > >>> Comment and critique welcome and encouraged.
> > >>>
> > >>> More soon!
> > >>> -Michelle W5NYV
> > >>> _______________________________________________
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> available
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> > >>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2019 14:57:16 -0700
From: Michelle Thompson <mountain.michelle@?????.???>
To: John Kludt <johnnykludt@?????.???>
Cc: Amsat BB <AMSAT-BB@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Disaster
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NVIS actually works really well here in SoCal with all the weird terrain.
It's part of local emergency communications plans and all.
This experiment under discussion supports the development of communications
resources that address a threat model of widespread natural disasters or
widespread communications emergencies. It's obviously frail in the face of
a global satellite outage. No communications system is completely robust.
For example, when the power goes down here, almost every amateur repeater
simply shuts off. There are very few that have functional backup power.
Simplex isn't really effective with canyons and mountains, so there's
simplex mapping exercises and efforts to keep backup power systems working.
These efforts have not been 100% effective.
It's a process to be prepared.
-Michelle W5NYV
On Thu, Aug 22, 2019 at 1:21 PM John Kludt via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
wrote:
> Scott,
>
> Easy - 40m or 80m NVIS and a digital mode probably what we should be
> practicing with, anyway.
>
> John
>
> On Thu, Aug 22, 2019 at 2:53 PM Scott Millick via AMSAT-BB <
> amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>
> >
> > What happens ift he disaster is the communications sats are destroyed.
> > Then what
> >
> > Scott k9SM
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2019 18:07:06 -0400
From: "Daniel Schultz" <n8fgv@???.???>
To: <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Update: Rent GEO bandwidth for US
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The main advantage of Amateur Radio in a disaster situation is our ability to
communicate without any commercial infrastructure. How long would it have
taken to set up an "aggregator" in Puerto Rico after the hurricane? Can it get
in there faster than the Verizon truck with 3 meter dish and cell tower can
get there?
How many "aggregators" will there be in the world? How hard will it be for
radio clubs to get licensed to operate an "aggregator" uplink station? Using
commercial infrastructure to link local ham radio access points is basically
what EchoLink is all about.
Meanwhile our friends in Europe are experiencing a renaissance in amateur
radio with their new geosat. I'm not saying that we wouldn't learn something
from utilizing commercial geosats, but it seems we should be looking for ways
to preserve our amateur satellite spectrum before the commercial world takes
it away and then offers to rent it back to us.
73, Dan N8FGV
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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2019 18:39:01 -0400
From: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@????.???>
To: Zach Metzinger <zmetzing@?????.???>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] ARISS funding
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The ISS digipeater historically has been a widely used resource that's
available nearly all the time. Amateur radio stations on the ISS need
to be turned off for EVAs, docking, and undocking, but other than
that, the digipeater was pretty much enabled all the time the US
segment radio was not in use.
Unfortunately, both the radio and packet module seem to have issues,
which is why the new hardware is so desperately needed. The new
hardware should also enable more frequent activation of the ISS FM
voice repeater and more frequent SSTV events as well.
More broadly, I would note that AMSAT's vision statement has three
separate clauses:
...to deploy satellite systems with the goal of providing wide-area
and continuous coverage (Both GOLF and our work on the Lunar Gateway
are working towards this goal)
...AMSAT will continue active participation in human space missions
(ARISS - now leading to Lunar Gateway)
...and support a stream of LEO satellites developed in cooperation
with the educational community and other amateur satellite groups
(after Fox, the focus here is now the linear transponder system AMSAT
is offering to university cubesat groups)
All of these are crucial to our goal of Keeping Amateur Radio in
Space. I would note that without our participation in SAREX and ARISS
over the decades, the opportunity for an amateur radio system on Lunar
Gateway likely would not exist. The relationships that develop from
our participation in a diverse set of missions help to lead to new and
different opportunities.
73,
Paul, N8HM
On Thu, Aug 22, 2019 at 5:52 PM Zach Metzinger via AMSAT-BB
<amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>
> On 2019-08-22 15:53, Jerry Buxton via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> > Please don't confuse or commingle
> > discussions of ARISS fundraising with AMSAT fundraising and the
> > proliferation of ham radio in space.
>
> Jerry,
>
> No confusion intended. I was simply responding to Frank's original
> email, sent to the AMSAT-BB reflector as a follow-up to Michelle's
> rent-a-GEO discussion.
>
> Given a limited pool of dollars, I'd rather see those dollars go toward
> something that any licensed amateur can use on our allocated frequencies
> anytime it is visible.
>
> --- Zach
> N0ZGO
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
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AMSAT-NA.
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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2019 16:16:41 +1000
From: vk2tfg <vk2tfg@???????.???.??>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] Old AMSAT FTP site.
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Greetings all,
Does anybody know if there is a way to download the software &
data that was at
https://www.amsat.org/amsat-new/tools/ftpsoft.php ?
I am after supporting info that was with some packages in
particular YACER 1.03 and ConvKeps.
Any info that is available would be gratefully accepted.
73 de Geoff vk2tfg.
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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2019 11:49:11 +0200
From: "Vincenzo Mone" <vimone@?????.??>
To: "Amsat - BBs" <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] MSPE Error NO-5
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Hi Folks,
I am using MSPE from the Wisp package to work on the
Falconsat-3 Satellite.
I am noticing from a while that every time
I send the Dir request to the satellite, I get from it
The ERROR NO-5. Did not understood which is the problem.
Any clue ho to solve the problem?
Any help will be really appreciated.
73 de Enzo IK8OZV
EasyLog 5 BetaTester
EasyLog PDA BetaTester
WinBollet BetaTester
D.C.I. CheckPoint Regione Campania
Skype: ik8ozv8520
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Message: 9
Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2019 06:49:52 -0500
From: KC9SGV <kc9sgv@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.??????????? Station
<ground-station@?????.????????????.?????????>, Schaumburg Amateur
Radio Club Announcements <sarc-all@????????????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Tweet by KC9SGV on Twitter
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KC9SGV (@???????
8/23/19, 6:40 AM
??@??????? Started to build a 12 GHZ receiver from COTS parts. Dish will be
aimed at the GEO belt just West of South...be ready !!
pic.twitter.com/lrEmlw87Up
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Message: 10
Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2019 07:32:07 -0500
From: KC9SGV <kc9sgv@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.??????????? Station
<ground-station@?????.????????????.?????????>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Dish size required for Echostar 9
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Looks like a smaller dish is required for Echostar 9 reception on the Ku band.
http://satstar.net/beams/echo9galaxy23_ku.html
Bernard,
KC9SGV
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Message: 11
Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2019 07:57:08 -0500
From: KC9SGV <kc9sgv@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.??????????? Station
<ground-station@?????.????????????.?????????>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Echostar 9 test cards
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Some Echostar 9, 12 GHz TV channels and test cards are shown here.
Scroll down.
https://www.lyngsat.com/EchoStar-9-Galaxy-23.html
KC9SGV
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Message: 12
Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2019 09:04:22 -0400
From: Dave Webb KB1PVH <kb1pvh@?????.???>
To: AMSAT -BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Echostar 9 test cards
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EXACTLY how do these posts about Echostar 9 relate to amateur satellites
other than it being someone's pipedream?
Dave-KB1PVH
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On Fri, Aug 23, 2019, 8:58 AM KC9SGV via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
wrote:
> Some Echostar 9, 12 GHz TV channels and test cards are shown here.
> Scroll down.
>
> https://www.lyngsat.com/EchoStar-9-Galaxy-23.html
>
> KC9SGV
>
> Sent from my iPad
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