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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Echostar 9 test cards (Mike Seguin)
   2. Re: Old AMSAT FTP site. (Paul Stoetzer)
   3. Re: MSPE Error NO-5 (Paul Stoetzer)
   4. Re: Old AMSAT FTP site. (Paul Stoetzer)
   5. Re: Echostar 9 test cards (Robert Bruninga)
   6. Re: Echostar 9 test cards (Ev Tupis)
   7. Re: Echostar 9 test cards (Tucker McGuire)
   8. G-5500 az rotor failure (k.swaggart@???????.????
   9. Re: G-5500 az rotor failure (Robert MacHale)
  10. Re: Echostar 9 test cards (Alex Free - N7AGF)
  11. Re: Echostar 9 test cards (Michelle Thompson)
  12. Re: Echostar 9 test cards (Ev Tupis)


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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2019 09:09:25 -0400
From: Mike Seguin <n1jez@?????????????????.???>
To: KC9SGV <kc9sgv@?????.???>, amsat-bb@?????.??????????? Station
<ground-station@?????.????????????.?????????>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Echostar 9 test cards
Message-ID:
<99ec2bca-943a-c368-2d23-aec802f2108b@?????????????????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed

Keep an eye out for the beacons....

11,705.50 or 12,198.00 MHz

On 8/23/2019 8:57 AM, KC9SGV via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> Some Echostar 9,  12 GHz TV channels and test cards are shown here.
> Scroll down.
>
> https://www.lyngsat.com/EchoStar-9-Galaxy-23.html
>
> KC9SGV
>
> Sent from my iPad
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>

--

73,
Mike, N1JEZ
"A closed mouth gathers no feet"


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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2019 09:13:21 -0400
From: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@????.???>
To: vk2tfg <vk2tfg@???????.???.??>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Old AMSAT FTP site.
Message-ID:
<CABzOSOqsZowEdEphnkAaYMscfOoEozTLYkpJmbdfD7k1eZR-Tg@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

Geoff,

The AMSAT FTP server is still active and contains all of these items.

73,

Paul, N8HM

On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 2:20 AM vk2tfg via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
wrote:
>
> Greetings all,
>
>         Does anybody know if there is a way to download the software &
>         data that was at
>         https://www.amsat.org/amsat-new/tools/ftpsoft.php ?
>
>         I am after supporting info that was with some packages in
>         particular YACER 1.03 and ConvKeps.
>
>         Any info that is available would be gratefully accepted.
>
> 73 de Geoff vk2tfg.
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb


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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2019 09:17:12 -0400
From: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@????.???>
To: Vincenzo Mone <vimone@?????.??>
Cc: Amsat - BBs <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] MSPE Error NO-5
Message-ID:
<CABzOSOr3OJGCTrcBHupHAZ5CLvVdB3zSirVzEZp8vtT6QN=-bA@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

Enzo,

There was some discussion about Error No 5 during a directory listing
a while back. https://amsat.org/pipermail/amsat-bb/2017-October/065001.html

You may also wish to try AC2CZ/G0KLA's modern Java-based PACSAT Ground
Station software if you continue to have problems with WiSP. See
https://www.g0kla.com/pacsat/

73,

Paul, N8HM

On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 6:07 AM Vincenzo Mone via AMSAT-BB
<amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>
> Hi Folks,
>
> I am using MSPE from the Wisp package to work on the
>
> Falconsat-3 Satellite.
>
> I am noticing from a while that every time
>
> I send the Dir request to the satellite, I get from it
>
> The ERROR NO-5. Did not understood which is the problem.
>
> Any clue ho to solve the problem?
>
> Any help will be really appreciated.
>
>
>
>
>
> 73 de Enzo IK8OZV
> EasyLog 5 BetaTester
> EasyLog PDA BetaTester
> WinBollet BetaTester
> D.C.I. CheckPoint Regione Campania
> Skype: ik8ozv8520
>
>
>
>
>       *********************************
>
>       ******   GSM  +39 328 7110193  ******
>
>       *****     SMS  +39 328 7110193    *****
>
>       *********************************
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb


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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2019 09:17:35 -0400
From: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@????.???>
To: vk2tfg <vk2tfg@???????.???.??>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Old AMSAT FTP site.
Message-ID:
<CABzOSOrPxnVPDpkhYWoToS3F2SfEOONnHO7Me68BiJVMZHKx9g@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

And that's at ftp.amsat.org

73,

Paul, N8HM

On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 9:13 AM Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@????.???> wrote:
>
> Geoff,
>
> The AMSAT FTP server is still active and contains all of these items.
>
> 73,
>
> Paul, N8HM
>
> On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 2:20 AM vk2tfg via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
wrote:
> >
> > Greetings all,
> >
> >         Does anybody know if there is a way to download the software &
> >         data that was at
> >         https://www.amsat.org/amsat-new/tools/ftpsoft.php ?
> >
> >         I am after supporting info that was with some packages in
> >         particular YACER 1.03 and ConvKeps.
> >
> >         Any info that is available would be gratefully accepted.
> >
> > 73 de Geoff vk2tfg.
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
Opinions expressed
> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb


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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2019 09:31:08 -0400
From: Robert Bruninga <bruninga@????.???>
To: AMSAT-BB <AMSAT-BB@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Echostar 9 test cards
Message-ID: <df6594fa700d9fd2b5645815a35c16f7@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

I actually am excited about the prospect of using LNA's from all these
throw-away Dish network dishes for something.  It's a great educational
opportunity.  I am happy to tune in anything that is interesting from a
technical perspective and I really love making stuff from cast-off stuff.

Bob, WB4APR

-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb-bounces@?????.???> On Behalf Of Dave Webb KB1PVH
via AMSAT-BB
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Echostar 9 test cards

 EXACTLY how do these posts about Echostar 9 relate to amateur satellites
other than it being someone's pipedream?

Dave-KB1PVH


On Fri, Aug 23, 2019, 8:58 AM KC9SGV via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
wrote:

> Some Echostar 9,  12 GHz TV channels and test cards are shown here.
> Scroll down.
>
> https://www.lyngsat.com/EchoStar-9-Galaxy-23.html
>
> KC9SGV


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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2019 16:05:30 +0000 (UTC)
From: Ev Tupis <w2ev@?????.???>
To: AMSAT-BB <AMSAT-BB@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Echostar 9 test cards
Message-ID: <689784226.900634.1566576330103@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

 I am too, Bob!? I'm amazed how many people feel compelled to tell
"accomplishers" that they "do it wrong".? I say, "If you don't like it,
press [Delete] and move on".

Ev

    On Friday, August 23, 2019, 09:46:10 AM EDT, Robert Bruninga via
AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:

 I actually am excited about the prospect of using LNA's from all these
throw-away Dish network dishes for something.? It's a great educational
opportunity.? I am happy to tune in anything that is interesting from a
technical perspective and I really love making stuff from cast-off stuff.

Bob, WB4APR

-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb-bounces@?????.???> On Behalf Of Dave Webb KB1PVH
via AMSAT-BB
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Echostar 9 test cards

 EXACTLY how do these posts about Echostar 9 relate to amateur satellites
other than it being someone's pipedream?

Dave-KB1PVH


On Fri, Aug 23, 2019, 8:58 AM KC9SGV via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
wrote:

> Some Echostar 9,? 12 GHz TV channels and test cards are shown here.
> Scroll down.
>
> https://www.lyngsat.com/EchoStar-9-Galaxy-23.html
>
> KC9SGV
_______________________________________________
Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb


------------------------------

Message: 7
Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2019 13:31:13 -0400
From: Tucker McGuire <tucker@???????????.???>
To: Ev Tupis <w2ev@?????.???>
Cc: AMSAT-BB <AMSAT-BB@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Echostar 9 test cards
Message-ID:
<CA+gmQJQd1-WBNTJYUyiURk7ZbKx9hRSJ=T4rzMW2a6Ogsjob9Q@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

Except, this is a bulletin for amateur radio satellites, which echostar is
not. Maybe go find a commercial sat fan page if you want to talk about
commercial GEO's.

---Tucker
   W4FS

On Fri, Aug 23, 2019, 12:07 PM Ev Tupis via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
wrote:

>  I am too, Bob!  I'm amazed how many people feel compelled to tell
> "accomplishers" that they "do it wrong".  I say, "If you don't like it,
> press [Delete] and move on".
>
> Ev
>
>     On Friday, August 23, 2019, 09:46:10 AM EDT, Robert Bruninga via
> AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>
>  I actually am excited about the prospect of using LNA's from all these
> throw-away Dish network dishes for something.  It's a great educational
> opportunity.  I am happy to tune in anything that is interesting from a
> technical perspective and I really love making stuff from cast-off stuff.
>
> Bob, WB4APR
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb-bounces@?????.???> On Behalf Of Dave Webb KB1PVH
> via AMSAT-BB
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Echostar 9 test cards
>
>  EXACTLY how do these posts about Echostar 9 relate to amateur satellites
> other than it being someone's pipedream?
>
> Dave-KB1PVH
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 23, 2019, 8:58 AM KC9SGV via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
> wrote:
>
> > Some Echostar 9,  12 GHz TV channels and test cards are shown here.
> > Scroll down.
> >
> > https://www.lyngsat.com/EchoStar-9-Galaxy-23.html
> >
> > KC9SGV
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>


------------------------------

Message: 8
Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2019 10:38:55 -0700
From: <k.swaggart@???????.???>
To: "AMSAT-BB" <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] G-5500 az rotor failure
Message-ID: <000001d559d9$a44db8f0$ece92ad0$@???????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

This morning I found my G-5500 will not move left or right. Not even a
wiggle. Took some measurements and the wiring appears to be intact but I
don't understand the 40 Vac readings when the rotor is connected to the
control box. Here are my readings taken at the control box end of the
wiring:



Rotor connected to control box:

Common (pin 6) to Left (pin 4)  Press Left: 28 Vac  Right: 40 Vac

Common (pin 6) to Right (pin 5) Press Left: 40 Vac  Right: 28 Vac



Rotor disconnected. Measuring control box terminals:

Pin 6 to 4  Press Left: 29.5 Vac  Press right: 0

Pin 6 to 5 Press Left: 0  Press Right: 29.5 Vac



Measuring rotor cable at control box, disconnected from box:

6 (brown) to 4 (blue) 5.3 Ohms

6 (brown) to 5 (orange) 5.3 Ohms

4 (blue) to 5 (orange) 8.9 Ohms



Any suggestions before I pull the rotor off the mast?



73,

Ken, W7KKE









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Message: 9
Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2019 17:48:35 +0000 (UTC)
From: Robert MacHale <robert.machale@?????.???>
To: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>,  <k.swaggart@???????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] G-5500 az rotor failure
Message-ID: <1152469997.2063622.1566582515665@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Oh, nooo!!!
Your SatGate is really important in the North West.
I hope the remedy is not too complicated.
73
Robert MacHale. KE6BLR Ham Radio License.?http://spaceCommunicator.club/aprs?
. Supporting Boy Scout Merit Badges in Radio, Robotics, and Space Exploration



    On Friday, August 23, 2019, 10:40:54 AM PDT, Ken Swaggart W7KKE via
AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:

 This morning I found my G-5500 will not move left or right. Not even a
wiggle. Took some measurements and the wiring appears to be intact but I
don't understand the 40 Vac readings when the rotor is connected to the
control box. Here are my readings taken at the control box end of the
wiring:



Rotor connected to control box:

Common (pin 6) to Left (pin 4)? Press Left: 28 Vac? Right: 40 Vac

Common (pin 6) to Right (pin 5) Press Left: 40 Vac? Right: 28 Vac



Rotor disconnected. Measuring control box terminals:

Pin 6 to 4? Press Left: 29.5 Vac? Press right: 0

Pin 6 to 5 Press Left: 0? Press Right: 29.5 Vac



Measuring rotor cable at control box, disconnected from box:

6 (brown) to 4 (blue) 5.3 Ohms

6 (brown) to 5 (orange) 5.3 Ohms

4 (blue) to 5 (orange) 8.9 Ohms



Any suggestions before I pull the rotor off the mast?



73,

Ken, W7KKE







_______________________________________________
Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb


------------------------------

Message: 10
Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2019 10:54:13 -0700
From: Alex Free - N7AGF <alex@?????.???>
To: AMSAT-BB <AMSAT-BB@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Echostar 9 test cards
Message-ID:
<CAG8VDhpUK4AYMfgWud_kF69JCzB4eaZURkiCs_9STUfbA4Eqkg@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

Perhaps the "mission statement" on the mailing list page should be updated.

Right now it states:  "The purpose of this mailing list is to provide a
forum for general discussion of any satellite-related topic."

https://www.amsat.org/amsat-new/tools/maillist/maillist.php

Making things more clear might clean things up and also eliminate the
incessant "gatekeeping" which is arguably much more annoying than off-topic
posts.

On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 10:34 AM Tucker McGuire via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:

> Except, this is a bulletin for amateur radio satellites, which echostar is
> not. Maybe go find a commercial sat fan page if you want to talk about
> commercial GEO's.
>
> ---Tucker
>    W4FS
>
> On Fri, Aug 23, 2019, 12:07 PM Ev Tupis via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
> wrote:
>
> >  I am too, Bob!  I'm amazed how many people feel compelled to tell
> > "accomplishers" that they "do it wrong".  I say, "If you don't like it,
> > press [Delete] and move on".
> >
> > Ev
> >
> >     On Friday, August 23, 2019, 09:46:10 AM EDT, Robert Bruninga via
> > AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
> >
> >  I actually am excited about the prospect of using LNA's from all these
> > throw-away Dish network dishes for something.  It's a great educational
> > opportunity.  I am happy to tune in anything that is interesting from a
> > technical perspective and I really love making stuff from cast-off stuff.
> >
> > Bob, WB4APR
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb-bounces@?????.???> On Behalf Of Dave Webb
> KB1PVH
> > via AMSAT-BB
> > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Echostar 9 test cards
> >
> >  EXACTLY how do these posts about Echostar 9 relate to amateur satellites
> > other than it being someone's pipedream?
> >
> > Dave-KB1PVH
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Aug 23, 2019, 8:58 AM KC9SGV via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Some Echostar 9,  12 GHz TV channels and test cards are shown here.
> > > Scroll down.
> > >
> > > https://www.lyngsat.com/EchoStar-9-Galaxy-23.html
> > >
> > > KC9SGV
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions
> > expressed
> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> > AMSAT-NA.
> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
> > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions
> > expressed
> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> > AMSAT-NA.
> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
> > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> >
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>


------------------------------

Message: 11
Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2019 10:56:58 -0700
From: Michelle Thompson <mountain.michelle@?????.???>
To: Tucker McGuire <tucker@???????????.???>
Cc: AMSAT-BB <AMSAT-BB@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Echostar 9 test cards
Message-ID:
<CACvjz2Xk1FVc8Vc+DHTUaFVMCyB_kOgR1VrjPHMwa_jefL3dTg@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

This Echostar experiment enables amateur radio legacy mode aggregation,
which is a technology presented at AMSAT-NA symposium twice, JAMSAT
symposium, and has been published in several other national and
international amateur radio journals.

This idea has been publicly supported by FEMA as well as by ARRL. It?s also
going to be fun to use.

So, yes, it?s solidly amateur radio related. Any supporting technology
discussions, like dishes and feeds, are also relevant to amateur radio.
There?s a lot that needs to be built and tested.

This particular project is in addition to two other
amateur-all-the-way-up-and-down GEO projects that are moving forward pretty
darn well.

I am here to remove roadblocks and make things happen. All are welcome to
collaborate and contribute.

-mdt


On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 10:36 Tucker McGuire via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:

> Except, this is a bulletin for amateur radio satellites, which echostar is
> not. Maybe go find a commercial sat fan page if you want to talk about
> commercial GEO's.
>
> ---Tucker
>    W4FS
>
> On Fri, Aug 23, 2019, 12:07 PM Ev Tupis via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
> wrote:
>
> >  I am too, Bob!  I'm amazed how many people feel compelled to tell
> > "accomplishers" that they "do it wrong".  I say, "If you don't like it,
> > press [Delete] and move on".
> >
> > Ev
> >
> >     On Friday, August 23, 2019, 09:46:10 AM EDT, Robert Bruninga via
> > AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
> >
> >  I actually am excited about the prospect of using LNA's from all these
> > throw-away Dish network dishes for something.  It's a great educational
> > opportunity.  I am happy to tune in anything that is interesting from a
> > technical perspective and I really love making stuff from cast-off stuff.
> >
> > Bob, WB4APR
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb-bounces@?????.???> On Behalf Of Dave Webb
> KB1PVH
> > via AMSAT-BB
> > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Echostar 9 test cards
> >
> >  EXACTLY how do these posts about Echostar 9 relate to amateur satellites
> > other than it being someone's pipedream?
> >
> > Dave-KB1PVH
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Aug 23, 2019, 8:58 AM KC9SGV via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Some Echostar 9,  12 GHz TV channels and test cards are shown here.
> > > Scroll down.
> > >
> > > https://www.lyngsat.com/EchoStar-9-Galaxy-23.html
> > >
> > > KC9SGV
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions
> > expressed
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Message: 12
Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2019 18:07:53 +0000 (UTC)
From: Ev Tupis <w2ev@?????.???>
To: AMSAT-BB <AMSAT-BB@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Echostar 9 test cards
Message-ID: <327703935.949395.1566583673194@????.?????.???>
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 Perhaps those who are uninterested in advancing their technical abilities
and knowledge should just press [Delete] and move on.
"H8rs gonna H8" and "Makers gonna make".
Bravo, Michelle!Ev, W2EV


    On Friday, August 23, 2019, 1:58:11 PM EDT, Alex Free - N7AGF via
AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:

 Perhaps the "mission statement" on the mailing list page should be updated.

Right now it states:? "The purpose of this mailing list is to provide a
forum for general discussion of any satellite-related topic."

https://www.amsat.org/amsat-new/tools/maillist/maillist.php

Making things more clear might clean things up and also eliminate the
incessant "gatekeeping" which is arguably much more annoying than off-topic
posts.

On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 10:34 AM Tucker McGuire via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:

> Except, this is a bulletin for amateur radio satellites, which echostar is
> not. Maybe go find a commercial sat fan page if you want to talk about
> commercial GEO's.
>
> ---Tucker
>? ? W4FS
>
> On Fri, Aug 23, 2019, 12:07 PM Ev Tupis via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
> wrote:
>
> >? I am too, Bob!? I'm amazed how many people feel compelled to tell
> > "accomplishers" that they "do it wrong".? I say, "If you don't like it,
> > press [Delete] and move on".
> >
> > Ev
> >
> >? ? On Friday, August 23, 2019, 09:46:10 AM EDT, Robert Bruninga via
> > AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
> >
> >? I actually am excited about the prospect of using LNA's from all these
> > throw-away Dish network dishes for something.? It's a great educational
> > opportunity.? I am happy to tune in anything that is interesting from a
> > technical perspective and I really love making stuff from cast-off stuff.
> >
> > Bob, WB4APR
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb-bounces@?????.???> On Behalf Of Dave Webb
> KB1PVH
> > via AMSAT-BB
> > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Echostar 9 test cards
> >
> >? EXACTLY how do these posts about Echostar 9 relate to amateur satellites
> > other than it being someone's pipedream?
> >
> > Dave-KB1PVH
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Aug 23, 2019, 8:58 AM KC9SGV via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Some Echostar 9,? 12 GHz TV channels and test cards are shown here.
> > > Scroll down.
> > >
> > > https://www.lyngsat.com/EchoStar-9-Galaxy-23.html
> > >
> > > KC9SGV
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