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Today's Topics:
1. Re: SatPC32 madness (Erich Eichmann)
2. Re: SatPC32 madness (EDWARD KROME)
3. Test (Erich Eichmann)
4. SpaceX SmallSat Rideshare Program (Gregory Beat)
5. Re: SpaceX SmallSat Rideshare Program (Ev Tupis)
6. Re: SpaceX SmallSat Rideshare Program (John Kludt)
7. Re: SpaceX SmallSat Rideshare Program (Don KB2YSI)
8. Re: SpaceX SmallSat Rideshare Program (Zach Metzinger)
9. Re: SpaceX SmallSat Rideshare Program (Roy Dean)
10. Re: SpaceX SmallSat Rideshare Program (Andrew Glasbrenner)
11. Re: SpaceX SmallSat Rideshare Program (Jerry Buxton)
12. Advice on two radios for Satellite work. (Pavel Milanes Costa)
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2019 08:18:24 +0200
From: Erich Eichmann <erich.eichmann@????????.??>
To: Ed Krome <e.krome@???????.???>, AMSAT-BB@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] SatPC32 madness
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Hi Ed,
Mark, N8MH, and Alan, WA4SCA, reported the same problem 8 months ago.
With your program version automatic satellite switching fails (and rotor
control stops) in the following case:? The program tracked a satellite
with higher priority and after its setting should switch to a sat with
lower priority. I have fixed that and the current release of V. 12.8d
works flawlessly.
A temporary solution: Set the "minimum Elevation" (menu "Rotor Setup")
to a positive value, say, +1 deg.
73s, Erich, DK1TB
Am 29.08.2019 um 03:27 schrieb Ed Krome via AMSAT-BB:
> I?m using registered satpc32 v.12.8c (also have 12.8d on another; same
problem ) to control HDSDR and LVB tracker (serial, not usb, which is even
more problematic), automatic satellite switching (now looking at wxsat?s).
Sometimes, it all works fine. Other times, not. Like tonight, it won?t auto
switch. Other times, When it does auto switch, it controls frequency just
fine. But it may or may not move the antennas. Tonight it?s not auto
switching, but when I manually click on the visible satellite, freq and
rotor control start to work. Sometimes it will all work well for a few days.
Then just quit. (It?s all on a good UPS). I sometimes think it just likes to
mess with me. The other machine does the same thing. When it feels like it.
> Anybody have any words of wisdom ?
>
> Ed K9EK
>
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2019 08:08:44 -0400 (EDT)
From: EDWARD KROME <e.krome@???????.???>
To: Erich Eichmann <erich.eichmann@????????.??>, AMSAT-BB@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] SatPC32 madness
Message-ID: <1340096906.755882.1567080524564@???????.???????.???>
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Erich
Danke! Ich werde das versuchen. (and that's about the extent of my German).
73,
Ed K9EK
> On August 29, 2019 at 2:18 AM Erich Eichmann <erich.eichmann@????????.??>
wrote:
>
>
> Hi Ed,
> Mark, N8MH, and Alan, WA4SCA, reported the same problem 8 months ago.
With your program version automatic satellite switching fails (and rotor
control stops) in the following case: The program tracked a satellite with
higher priority and after its setting should switch to a sat with lower
priority. I have fixed that and the current release of V. 12.8d works
flawlessly.
> A temporary solution: Set the "minimum Elevation" (menu "Rotor Setup")
to a positive value, say, +1 deg.
>
> 73s, Erich, DK1TB
>
> Am 29.08.2019 um 03:27 schrieb Ed Krome via AMSAT-BB:
>
> > >
> > I?m using registered satpc32 v.12.8c (also have 12.8d on
another; same problem ) to control HDSDR and LVB tracker (serial, not usb,
which is even more problematic), automatic satellite switching (now looking
at wxsat?s). Sometimes, it all works fine. Other times, not. Like tonight,
it won?t auto switch. Other times, When it does auto switch, it controls
frequency just fine. But it may or may not move the antennas. Tonight it?s
not auto switching, but when I manually click on the visible satellite, freq
and rotor control start to work. Sometimes it will all work well for a few
days. Then just quit. (It?s all on a good UPS). I sometimes think it just
likes to mess with me. The other machine does the same thing. When it feels
like it.
> > Anybody have any words of wisdom ?
> >
> > Ed K9EK
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2019 16:13:30 +0200
From: Erich Eichmann <erich.eichmann@????????.??>
To: AMSAT-BB@?????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] Test
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Test because my previous mail to AMSAT-BB did not appear on the list.
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2019 10:54:52 -0500
From: Gregory Beat <w9gb@??????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] SpaceX SmallSat Rideshare Program
Message-ID: <A1CCD060-9EC1-4B1C-B886-42A1414E7454@??????.???>
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SpaceX SmallSat Rideshare Program
Monthly missions as low as $1 million
https://www.spacex.com/smallsat
SpaceX?s SmallSat Rideshare Program will provide small satellite operators
with regularly scheduled, dedicated Falcon 9 rideshare missions to sun
synchronous orbit (SSO) for ESPA class payloads for as low as $1M per
mission, which includes up to 200 kg of payload mass.
Unlike traditional rideshare opportunities, these missions will not be
dependent on a primary. These missions will be pre-scheduled and will not be
held up by delays with co-passengers.
For payloads who run into development or production challenges leading up to
launch, SpaceX will allow them to apply 100% of monies paid towards the cost
of rebooking on a subsequent mission, subject to a 10% rebooking fee.
==
greg, w9gb
Sent from iPad Air
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2019 16:29:00 +0000 (UTC)
From: Ev Tupis <w2ev@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] SpaceX SmallSat Rideshare Program
Message-ID: <343125634.302590.1567096140794@????.?????.???>
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Nice, Greg!
Doing a little "back of the napkin" math...and assuming that a LEO is
defined as 2,000km and less, I think (corrections sought, of course) an SSO
LEO opportunity plays out as shown below...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun-synchronous_orbit
http://www.ringbell.co.uk/info/hdist.htm
Height?? O/D?? Footprint
282km?? ?16?? ?3835 km
574km?? ?15?? ?5532 km
901km?? ?14?? ?7016 km
1269km?? 13?? ?8438 km
1688km?? 12?? ?9876 km
O/D = orbits/day
Ev, W2EV
On Thursday, August 29, 2019, 11:57:43 AM EDT, Gregory Beat via AMSAT-BB
<amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
SpaceX SmallSat Rideshare Program
Monthly missions as low as $1 million
https://www.spacex.com/smallsat
SpaceX?s SmallSat Rideshare Program will provide small satellite operators
with regularly scheduled, dedicated Falcon 9 rideshare missions to sun
synchronous orbit (SSO) for ESPA class payloads for as low as $1M per
mission, which includes up to 200 kg of payload mass.
Unlike traditional rideshare opportunities, these missions will not be
dependent on a primary. These missions will be pre-scheduled and will not be
held up by delays with co-passengers.
For payloads who run into development or production challenges leading up to
launch, SpaceX will allow them to apply 100% of monies paid towards the cost
of rebooking on a subsequent mission, subject to a 10% rebooking fee.
==
greg, w9gb
Sent from iPad Air
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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2019 12:51:28 -0400
From: John Kludt <johnnykludt@?????.???>
To: Amsat BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] SpaceX SmallSat Rideshare Program
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Greg,
One million dollars is still an awful lot of money.? Given the almost
mythical status of the "cheap ham" where are we going to come up with that
kind of cash?
John
Sent from my Verizon Motorola Smartphone
On Aug 29, 2019 11:54, Gregory Beat via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>
> SpaceX SmallSat Rideshare Program
> Monthly missions as low as $1 million
> https://www.spacex.com/smallsat
>
> SpaceX?s SmallSat Rideshare Program will provide small satellite operators
with regularly scheduled, dedicated Falcon 9 rideshare missions to sun
synchronous orbit (SSO) for ESPA class payloads for as low as $1M per
mission, which includes up to 200 kg of payload mass.
> Unlike traditional rideshare opportunities, these missions will not be
dependent on a primary. These missions will be pre-scheduled and will not be
held up by delays with co-passengers.
>
> For payloads who run into development or production challenges leading up
to launch, SpaceX will allow them to apply 100% of monies paid towards the
cost of rebooking on a subsequent mission, subject to a 10% rebooking fee.
>
> ==
> greg, w9gb
>
> Sent from iPad Air
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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2019 10:34:40 -0700
From: Don KB2YSI <kb2ysi@?????.???>
To: John Kludt <johnnykludt@?????.???>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] SpaceX SmallSat Rideshare Program
Message-ID:
<CAAJiE8MhEwuguRHhT2ZsX7ymabG5j1RtXrav62P9ZS03fT+1gg@????.?????.???>
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Just look at the current ARISS need, last I saw it was not up to 40% of the
$150,000 goal.
On Thu, Aug 29, 2019, 09:53 John Kludt via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
wrote:
> Greg,
>
> One million dollars is still an awful lot of money. Given the almost
> mythical status of the "cheap ham" where are we going to come up with that
> kind of cash?
>
> John
>
> Sent from my Verizon Motorola Smartphone
> On Aug 29, 2019 11:54, Gregory Beat via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
> wrote:
> >
> > SpaceX SmallSat Rideshare Program
> > Monthly missions as low as $1 million
> > https://www.spacex.com/smallsat
> >
> > SpaceX?s SmallSat Rideshare Program will provide small satellite
> operators with regularly scheduled, dedicated Falcon 9 rideshare missions
> to sun synchronous orbit (SSO) for ESPA class payloads for as low as $1M
> per mission, which includes up to 200 kg of payload mass.
> > Unlike traditional rideshare opportunities, these missions will not be
> dependent on a primary. These missions will be pre-scheduled and will not
> be held up by delays with co-passengers.
> >
> > For payloads who run into development or production challenges leading
> up to launch, SpaceX will allow them to apply 100% of monies paid towards
> the cost of rebooking on a subsequent mission, subject to a 10% rebooking
> fee.
> >
> > ==
> > greg, w9gb
> >
> > Sent from iPad Air
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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2019 13:10:06 -0500
From: Zach Metzinger <zmetzing@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] SpaceX SmallSat Rideshare Program
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On 2019-08-29 12:34, Don KB2YSI via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> Just look at the current ARISS need, last I saw it was not up to 40% of the
> $150,000 goal.
My $25 .. heck .. $100 donation offer still stands.
$999,900 to go. Who's with me?
--- Zach
N0ZGO
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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2019 15:00:09 -0400
From: Roy Dean <royldean@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] SpaceX SmallSat Rideshare Program
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Well, with 200kg to play with, I'm wondering if Spacex won't let several
cheap customers (like AMSAT and universities) partner up and cram several
cubesats into ppods (or whatever they call them) for simultaneous release?
Otherwise perhaps it's time to investigate satellite "ride shares" and
share the spacecraft platform itself with other customers?
--Roy
K3RLD
> Greg, One million dollars is still an awful lot of money. Given the
> almost mythical status of the "cheap ham" where are we going to come up
> with that kind of cash? John
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Message: 10
Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2019 15:55:31 -0400
From: "Andrew Glasbrenner" <glasbrenner@??????????.???>
To: "'Roy Dean'" <royldean@?????.???>
Cc: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] SpaceX SmallSat Rideshare Program
Message-ID: <02fc01d55ea3$b6c6f4f0$2454ded0$@??????????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
What happens is companies like Tyvak, Spaceflight, etc will purchase chunks
of mass and act as aggregators for smaller missions. I'll remind the list
readers that we flew on two paid rideshare launches with Spaceflight already
with AO-92 and AO-95, and on two NASA sponsored (read this as free) launches
with AO-85 and AO-91, with another coming soon for Fox-1E. Golf-TEE and
Golf-1 have also been approved for as of yet undisclosed NASA sponsored
launches.
Finding LEO launches in general is not a problem. Launches above 600km are
difficult, but it is more due to orbital debris mitigation requirements. In
general without propulsion or a -proven- deorbit device (of which there are
currently none approved by FCC) you don't go above about 600km. Disposal
orbits are a possibility, but as a very very small rideshare, you don't get
to pick the destination, and so far we haven't found anyone going to a
disposal orbit who will take us along.
It doesn't get publicized, but several AMSAT officers are engaged on a
weekly basis with various launch providers, aggregators, and satellite
hardware providers, and the goal is always a launch or payload accommodation
above that 600km orbit. It's too early to announce anything yet, but we are
making headway, and picking up a lot of missions to fly our cubesat radio
system developed out of the Fox-1E project. Huskysat-1 launches this fall
and will carry one of these radios, providing a 30 kHz wide V/u transponder
for hams to use. Several others are in the works, but too early to announce
at this point.
73, Drew KO4MA
AMSAT VP Operations
-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb-bounces@?????.???> On Behalf Of Roy Dean via
AMSAT-BB
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2019 3:00 PM
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] SpaceX SmallSat Rideshare Program
Well, with 200kg to play with, I'm wondering if Spacex won't let several
cheap customers (like AMSAT and universities) partner up and cram several
cubesats into ppods (or whatever they call them) for simultaneous release?
Otherwise perhaps it's time to investigate satellite "ride shares" and
share the spacecraft platform itself with other customers?
--Roy
K3RLD
> Greg, One million dollars is still an awful lot of money. Given the
> almost mythical status of the "cheap ham" where are we going to come
> up with that kind of cash? John
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Message: 11
Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2019 15:13:04 -0500
From: Jerry Buxton <n0jy@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] SpaceX SmallSat Rideshare Program
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The NASA ELaNa program will purchase some of that too when they have
missions requesting that type of orbit, and their cost for that
essentially gets spread out over the number of U(kg) they manifest on
the launch.? The 200kg probably includes the dispenser apparatus as
well, I don't know what the mass of a "typical" ESPA type adapter is.? I
would expect that the cost per kg to customers will be the $1M plus the
adapter "stuff" plus the "integration handling cost" and come out to be
maybe a little below what the going price is now.?
The difference or big perk would be not having to wait or accommodate
the primary payload schedule where it may happen too soon or it may
happen years later than you thought, and the "rebooking option/fee"
which is probably a pretty marketable thing given the number of CubeSat
projects that have trouble making the deadline.? I don't suppose that
they would market that if they didn't see the need.
My two cents just to expand on what Drew said, not an official claim to
know anything about what I said.? :-)
Jerry Buxton, N?JY
On 8/29/2019 14:55, Andrew Glasbrenner via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> What happens is companies like Tyvak, Spaceflight, etc will purchase chunks
> of mass and act as aggregators for smaller missions. I'll remind the list
> readers that we flew on two paid rideshare launches with Spaceflight already
> with AO-92 and AO-95, and on two NASA sponsored (read this as free) launches
> with AO-85 and AO-91, with another coming soon for Fox-1E. Golf-TEE and
> Golf-1 have also been approved for as of yet undisclosed NASA sponsored
> launches.
>
> Finding LEO launches in general is not a problem. Launches above 600km are
> difficult, but it is more due to orbital debris mitigation requirements. In
> general without propulsion or a -proven- deorbit device (of which there are
> currently none approved by FCC) you don't go above about 600km. Disposal
> orbits are a possibility, but as a very very small rideshare, you don't get
> to pick the destination, and so far we haven't found anyone going to a
> disposal orbit who will take us along.
>
> It doesn't get publicized, but several AMSAT officers are engaged on a
> weekly basis with various launch providers, aggregators, and satellite
> hardware providers, and the goal is always a launch or payload accommodation
> above that 600km orbit. It's too early to announce anything yet, but we are
> making headway, and picking up a lot of missions to fly our cubesat radio
> system developed out of the Fox-1E project. Huskysat-1 launches this fall
> and will carry one of these radios, providing a 30 kHz wide V/u transponder
> for hams to use. Several others are in the works, but too early to announce
> at this point.
>
> 73, Drew KO4MA
> AMSAT VP Operations
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb-bounces@?????.???> On Behalf Of Roy Dean via
> AMSAT-BB
> Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2019 3:00 PM
> To: amsat-bb@?????.???
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] SpaceX SmallSat Rideshare Program
>
> Well, with 200kg to play with, I'm wondering if Spacex won't let several
> cheap customers (like AMSAT and universities) partner up and cram several
> cubesats into ppods (or whatever they call them) for simultaneous release?
> Otherwise perhaps it's time to investigate satellite "ride shares" and
> share the spacecraft platform itself with other customers?
>
> --Roy
> K3RLD
>
>
>> Greg, One million dollars is still an awful lot of money. Given the
>> almost mythical status of the "cheap ham" where are we going to come
>> up with that kind of cash? John
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Message: 12
Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2019 16:29:59 -0400
From: Pavel Milanes Costa <pavelmc@?????.???>
To: Roy Dean via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Advice on two radios for Satellite work.
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Hi,
Finally I found a offer for a 2m/70cm SSB/FM radios to be back on
satellites, but need your advice...
I need pros and cons for satellite use for
FT-736R vs FT-726
Both has only 2m/70cm configs on it, I know they are old but that's what
I can get inside Cuba...
Waiting for your advice, CO7WT.
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