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Today's Topics:
1. SO-50 Pre-amp? (Clint Bradford)
2. Re: ISS contact May 2nd (EMike McCardel)
3. Help decoding/understanding terrestrial packet heard on ISS
freq 145.825 MHz (John Brier)
4. Re: Help decoding/understanding terrestrial packet heard on
ISS freq 145.825 MHz (David L Warnberg)
5. Re: Help decoding/understanding terrestrial packet heard on
ISS freq 145.825 MHz (Jeff Moore)
6. Re: Help decoding/understanding terrestrial packet heard on
ISS freq 145.825 MHz (David L Warnberg)
7. AO73 mode change (Jim Heck)
8. Re: Help decoding/understanding terrestrial packet heard on
ISS freq 145.825 MHz (Jeff Moore)
9. Re: Help decoding/understanding terrestrial packet heard on
ISS freq 145.825 MHz (Rich/wa4bue)
10. Re: Help decoding/understanding terrestrial packet heard on
ISS freq 145.825 MHz (Robert Bruninga)
11. Re: WTB: Elk antenna (Andrew Glasbrenner)
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 01 May 2015 13:06:54 -0700
From: Clint Bradford <clintbradford@xxx.xxx>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] SO-50 Pre-amp?
Message-ID: <EB93C8C9-739A-4472-A93A-A032A557C7C4@xxx.xxx>
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In front of scores of audiences over the years, I have never disappointed
audiences and failed to hear SO-50 - without ever using a pre-amp with
either my tape measure beam or Arrow Satellite antennas ...
Such handheld ops, as low as 10-15 degrees of elevation, can be worked
without a pre-amp.
I'd hate to see you invest in a 440 pre-amp, when the next "big" easily
worked project will have a 2M downlink ... (grin)
Clint K6LCS
http://www.work-sat.com
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 1 May 2015 16:58:46 -0400
From: EMike McCardel <mccardelm@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Doug - k4GKJ <k4gkj@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: "AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxxx <AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] ISS contact May 2nd
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Upcoming contacts are usually reported in the weekly ANS which is published
in AMSAT-BB as well.
EMike
EMike McCardel, KC8YLD
VP for Educational Relations AMSAT-NA
Sent from my iPhone
> On May 1, 2015, at 11:52 AM, Doug - k4GKJ <k4gkj@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
> I hear a rumor of a contact May 2nd, 14:30 UTC....... Africa & Italy with
> Samantha......
> Don't know if it's telebridge or direct..... Check your prediction
software to see if your in the footprint at that time...
>
> Doug
> K4GKJ
>
>
> Doug Bennight
> K4GKJ
> 528-5772
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 1 May 2015 17:18:01 -0400
From: John Brier <johnbrier@xxxxx.xxx>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Help decoding/understanding terrestrial packet
heard on ISS freq 145.825 MHz
Message-ID:
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Thanks for all the responses on SO-50 preamps and portable setups. I'm
still digesting the info.
TL;DR: I heard automated packet transmissions on the ISS packet
frequency when the ISS wasn't in sight and recorded them to try and
figure out who/what they are, but my software isn't decoding anything.
Can you help me understand what they were, or even better, decode them
yourself?
http://cupcakecarnival.net/sites/default/files/New_Jersey_Terrestrial_Packet_1
45825_2015-04-30-1540_UTC_one.wav
http://cupcakecarnival.net/sites/default/files/New_Jersey_Terrestrial_Packet_1
45825_2015-04-30-1540_UTC_two.wav
Here's another question that has me excited:
Yesterday after having visited with family in Maplewood, New Jersey
for several days, I drove home to North Carolina. I knew there was an
ISS pass at 10:26 AM/1426 UTC, right when I started my trip, so I
tuned to 145.825 MHz and heard its digipeater easily.
Then I left the radio on.
I'm not sure where I was in NJ, but about one hour later, around 11:33
AM local/1533 UTC, I heard packet on the frequency again but I was
confused because there weren't supposed to be any more passes for a
while. I confirmed on my phone that the ISS was over some far away
ocean at the time I was hearing these new transmissions, so I knew
they must be terrestrial. Still, it seemed odd that someone or
something was transmitting when the ISS wasn't in sight...
Maybe it's an internet gateway I thought. Or do people leave their
stations on the ISS frequency 24/7 so they can "work" any pass that
happens?
I tried recording videos of the transmissions for later decoding to
figure out who or what it was. Eventually I realized it was
transmitting every 2 minutes. It was almost certainly an automated
setup, adding credence to the idea that this was an internet gateway.
Unfortunately, before I realized that, and after recording one video
of it, the best reception I received during my drive by "pass," I
wasn't recording. As I drove further away it only got weaker and
weaker. I did manage to get two half way decent recordings of it, but
I have tried decoding them with Soundmodem on Windows and it's not
printing out anything like it normally does. I am very new to packet,
only becoming interested in it because the ISS uses it, so I thought
maybe someone else might be more equipped to decode it. Or certainly
someone could shed some light on what I heard, maybe the operator in
NJ is on this list.
I used Audacity to record the audio off the videos I made as well trim
and amplify the audio, but I haven't done anything else, though if
someone wants the unedited videos I can put them up too.
http://cupcakecarnival.net/sites/default/files/New_Jersey_Terrestrial_Packet_1
45825_2015-04-30-1540_UTC_one.wav
http://cupcakecarnival.net/sites/default/files/New_Jersey_Terrestrial_Packet_1
45825_2015-04-30-1540_UTC_two.wav
John Brier, KG4AKV, Raleigh, NC, FM05
------------------------------
Message: 4
Date: Fri, 01 May 2015 17:44:48 -0400
From: "David L Warnberg" <dwarnberg@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: "'John Brier'" <johnbrier@xxxxx.xxx>, "'AMSAT BB'"
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Help decoding/understanding terrestrial packet
heard on ISS freq 145.825 MHz
Message-ID: <006701d08458$0f431f30$2dc95d90$@xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
For the packet data take a look at UISS software... also for those SSTV
transmissions from the ISS look at RX-SSTV..
You will also need a packet engine...
Here is what I use
Packet Engine Pro web site = http://www.sv2agw.com/
UISS and RX-SSTV web site = http://users.belgacom.net/hamradio/
Hope this helps
73's
David
KK4QOE
-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On Behalf Of John Brier
Sent: Friday, May 01, 2015 5:18 PM
To: AMSAT BB
Subject: [amsat-bb] Help decoding/understanding terrestrial packet heard on
ISS freq 145.825 MHz
Thanks for all the responses on SO-50 preamps and portable setups. I'm still
digesting the info.
TL;DR: I heard automated packet transmissions on the ISS packet frequency
when the ISS wasn't in sight and recorded them to try and figure out
who/what they are, but my software isn't decoding anything.
Can you help me understand what they were, or even better, decode them
yourself?
http://cupcakecarnival.net/sites/default/files/New_Jersey_Terrestrial_Packet
_145825_2015-04-30-1540_UTC_one.wav
http://cupcakecarnival.net/sites/default/files/New_Jersey_Terrestrial_Packet
_145825_2015-04-30-1540_UTC_two.wav
Here's another question that has me excited:
Yesterday after having visited with family in Maplewood, New Jersey for
several days, I drove home to North Carolina. I knew there was an ISS pass
at 10:26 AM/1426 UTC, right when I started my trip, so I tuned to 145.825
MHz and heard its digipeater easily.
Then I left the radio on.
I'm not sure where I was in NJ, but about one hour later, around 11:33 AM
local/1533 UTC, I heard packet on the frequency again but I was confused
because there weren't supposed to be any more passes for a while. I
confirmed on my phone that the ISS was over some far away ocean at the time
I was hearing these new transmissions, so I knew they must be terrestrial.
Still, it seemed odd that someone or something was transmitting when the ISS
wasn't in sight...
Maybe it's an internet gateway I thought. Or do people leave their stations
on the ISS frequency 24/7 so they can "work" any pass that happens?
I tried recording videos of the transmissions for later decoding to figure
out who or what it was. Eventually I realized it was transmitting every 2
minutes. It was almost certainly an automated setup, adding credence to the
idea that this was an internet gateway.
Unfortunately, before I realized that, and after recording one video of it,
the best reception I received during my drive by "pass," I wasn't recording.
As I drove further away it only got weaker and weaker. I did manage to get
two half way decent recordings of it, but I have tried decoding them with
Soundmodem on Windows and it's not printing out anything like it normally
does. I am very new to packet, only becoming interested in it because the
ISS uses it, so I thought maybe someone else might be more equipped to
decode it. Or certainly someone could shed some light on what I heard, maybe
the operator in NJ is on this list.
I used Audacity to record the audio off the videos I made as well trim and
amplify the audio, but I haven't done anything else, though if someone wants
the unedited videos I can put them up too.
http://cupcakecarnival.net/sites/default/files/New_Jersey_Terrestrial_Packet
_145825_2015-04-30-1540_UTC_one.wav
http://cupcakecarnival.net/sites/default/files/New_Jersey_Terrestrial_Packet
_145825_2015-04-30-1540_UTC_two.wav
John Brier, KG4AKV, Raleigh, NC, FM05
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 1 May 2015 15:11:40 -0700
From: Jeff Moore <tnetcenter@xxxxx.xxx>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Help decoding/understanding terrestrial packet
heard on ISS freq 145.825 MHz
Message-ID:
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I could be wrong, but it's possible you may have heard a different
satellite transmitting. It's also possible and more likely, you heard
someone with their APRS or Packet station on the wrong frequency. This
occurs occasionally with certain dual band radios with built in packet
modems like the D700/D710 or the Alinco 635 in that they are in a packet or
APRS mode and for whatever reason, the operator changes to a different
frequency on that side of the radio w/o shutting off the data
capability. It can happen on single band radios as well but not as
often, it's easy to do it with the dual band radios. This occurs all to
often all over the country. I hear it once or twice a month on repeater
and simplex frequencies in my area so I know it's a widespread occurrence.
7 3
Jeff Moore -- KE7ACY
On Fri, May 1, 2015 at 2:18 PM, John Brier <johnbrier@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> Thanks for all the responses on SO-50 preamps and portable setups. I'm
> still digesting the info.
>
> TL;DR: I heard automated packet transmissions on the ISS packet
> frequency when the ISS wasn't in sight and recorded them to try and
> figure out who/what they are, but my software isn't decoding anything.
> Can you help me understand what they were, or even better, decode them
> yourself?
>
>
>
http://cupcakecarnival.net/sites/default/files/New_Jersey_Terrestrial_Packet_1
45825_2015-04-30-1540_UTC_one.wav
>
>
>
http://cupcakecarnival.net/sites/default/files/New_Jersey_Terrestrial_Packet_1
45825_2015-04-30-1540_UTC_two.wav
>
>
> Here's another question that has me excited:
>
> Yesterday after having visited with family in Maplewood, New Jersey
> for several days, I drove home to North Carolina. I knew there was an
> ISS pass at 10:26 AM/1426 UTC, right when I started my trip, so I
> tuned to 145.825 MHz and heard its digipeater easily.
>
> Then I left the radio on.
>
> I'm not sure where I was in NJ, but about one hour later, around 11:33
> AM local/1533 UTC, I heard packet on the frequency again but I was
> confused because there weren't supposed to be any more passes for a
> while. I confirmed on my phone that the ISS was over some far away
> ocean at the time I was hearing these new transmissions, so I knew
> they must be terrestrial. Still, it seemed odd that someone or
> something was transmitting when the ISS wasn't in sight...
>
> Maybe it's an internet gateway I thought. Or do people leave their
> stations on the ISS frequency 24/7 so they can "work" any pass that
> happens?
>
> I tried recording videos of the transmissions for later decoding to
> figure out who or what it was. Eventually I realized it was
> transmitting every 2 minutes. It was almost certainly an automated
> setup, adding credence to the idea that this was an internet gateway.
> Unfortunately, before I realized that, and after recording one video
> of it, the best reception I received during my drive by "pass," I
> wasn't recording. As I drove further away it only got weaker and
> weaker. I did manage to get two half way decent recordings of it, but
> I have tried decoding them with Soundmodem on Windows and it's not
> printing out anything like it normally does. I am very new to packet,
> only becoming interested in it because the ISS uses it, so I thought
> maybe someone else might be more equipped to decode it. Or certainly
> someone could shed some light on what I heard, maybe the operator in
> NJ is on this list.
>
> I used Audacity to record the audio off the videos I made as well trim
> and amplify the audio, but I haven't done anything else, though if
> someone wants the unedited videos I can put them up too.
>
>
>
http://cupcakecarnival.net/sites/default/files/New_Jersey_Terrestrial_Packet_1
45825_2015-04-30-1540_UTC_one.wav
>
>
>
http://cupcakecarnival.net/sites/default/files/New_Jersey_Terrestrial_Packet_1
45825_2015-04-30-1540_UTC_two.wav
>
> John Brier, KG4AKV, Raleigh, NC, FM05
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
------------------------------
Message: 6
Date: Fri, 01 May 2015 18:17:26 -0400
From: "David L Warnberg" <dwarnberg@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: "'David L Warnberg'" <dwarnberg@xxxxxxx.xxx>, "'John Brier'"
<johnbrier@xxxxx.xxx>, "'AMSAT BB'" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Help decoding/understanding terrestrial packet
heard on ISS freq 145.825 MHz
Message-ID: <006801d0845c$9e0093c0$da01bb40$@xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
John,
Almost forgot... those are basically APRS packets you are hearing..
so to test your setup prior to waiting for the ISS to fly over tune your
radio to 144.39 to listen a test the software...
Then when it's working to your satisfaction tune back over to the ISS data
and listen away...
Thanks
David
-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On Behalf Of David L
Warnberg
Sent: Friday, May 01, 2015 5:45 PM
To: 'John Brier'; 'AMSAT BB'
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Help decoding/understanding terrestrial packet heard
on ISS freq 145.825 MHz
For the packet data take a look at UISS software... also for those SSTV
transmissions from the ISS look at RX-SSTV..
You will also need a packet engine...
Here is what I use
Packet Engine Pro web site = http://www.sv2agw.com/ UISS and RX-SSTV web
site = http://users.belgacom.net/hamradio/
Hope this helps
73's
David
KK4QOE
-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On Behalf Of John Brier
Sent: Friday, May 01, 2015 5:18 PM
To: AMSAT BB
Subject: [amsat-bb] Help decoding/understanding terrestrial packet heard on
ISS freq 145.825 MHz
Thanks for all the responses on SO-50 preamps and portable setups. I'm still
digesting the info.
TL;DR: I heard automated packet transmissions on the ISS packet frequency
when the ISS wasn't in sight and recorded them to try and figure out
who/what they are, but my software isn't decoding anything.
Can you help me understand what they were, or even better, decode them
yourself?
http://cupcakecarnival.net/sites/default/files/New_Jersey_Terrestrial_Packet
_145825_2015-04-30-1540_UTC_one.wav
http://cupcakecarnival.net/sites/default/files/New_Jersey_Terrestrial_Packet
_145825_2015-04-30-1540_UTC_two.wav
Here's another question that has me excited:
Yesterday after having visited with family in Maplewood, New Jersey for
several days, I drove home to North Carolina. I knew there was an ISS pass
at 10:26 AM/1426 UTC, right when I started my trip, so I tuned to 145.825
MHz and heard its digipeater easily.
Then I left the radio on.
I'm not sure where I was in NJ, but about one hour later, around 11:33 AM
local/1533 UTC, I heard packet on the frequency again but I was confused
because there weren't supposed to be any more passes for a while. I
confirmed on my phone that the ISS was over some far away ocean at the time
I was hearing these new transmissions, so I knew they must be terrestrial.
Still, it seemed odd that someone or something was transmitting when the ISS
wasn't in sight...
Maybe it's an internet gateway I thought. Or do people leave their stations
on the ISS frequency 24/7 so they can "work" any pass that happens?
I tried recording videos of the transmissions for later decoding to figure
out who or what it was. Eventually I realized it was transmitting every 2
minutes. It was almost certainly an automated setup, adding credence to the
idea that this was an internet gateway.
Unfortunately, before I realized that, and after recording one video of it,
the best reception I received during my drive by "pass," I wasn't recording.
As I drove further away it only got weaker and weaker. I did manage to get
two half way decent recordings of it, but I have tried decoding them with
Soundmodem on Windows and it's not printing out anything like it normally
does. I am very new to packet, only becoming interested in it because the
ISS uses it, so I thought maybe someone else might be more equipped to
decode it. Or certainly someone could shed some light on what I heard, maybe
the operator in NJ is on this list.
I used Audacity to record the audio off the videos I made as well trim and
amplify the audio, but I haven't done anything else, though if someone wants
the unedited videos I can put them up too.
http://cupcakecarnival.net/sites/default/files/New_Jersey_Terrestrial_Packet
_145825_2015-04-30-1540_UTC_one.wav
http://cupcakecarnival.net/sites/default/files/New_Jersey_Terrestrial_Packet
_145825_2015-04-30-1540_UTC_two.wav
John Brier, KG4AKV, Raleigh, NC, FM05
_______________________________________________
Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all
interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official
views of AMSAT-NA.
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interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official
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------------------------------
Message: 7
Date: Fri, 01 May 2015 23:23:13 +0100
From: Jim Heck <jimlist@xxxx.xxx>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>, funcube@xxxxxxxxxxx.xx.xx
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO73 mode change
Message-ID: <5543FCD1.8040305@xxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
Hi All,
Just to advise that FUNcube-1 AO73 has just (at approx 2315UTC) been
commanded into continuous amateur mode. We expect to change it back to
autonomous mode on Sunday pm.
Have FUN!
73
Jim G3WGM
------------------------------
Message: 8
Date: Fri, 1 May 2015 15:28:01 -0700
From: Jeff Moore <tnetcenter@xxxxx.xxx>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Help decoding/understanding terrestrial packet
heard on ISS freq 145.825 MHz
Message-ID:
<CALx_moQW-6OVXt6oEVF0Sdxjtkpz3szWhj5-bob6P-ebp++seg@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Basically they are AX.25 packets NOT APRS packets. I know that on my radio
(D710), the setup to work the ISS via packet is different from the normal
APRS setup. It's been a while since I've done either on that radio, but I
do know that the setups are mutually exclusive.
Jeff Moore -- KE7ACY
On Fri, May 1, 2015 at 3:17 PM, David L Warnberg <dwarnberg@xxxxxxx.xxx>
wrote:
> John,
> Almost forgot... those are basically APRS packets you are hearing..
> so to test your setup prior to waiting for the ISS to fly over tune your
> radio to 144.39 to listen a test the software...
>
> Then when it's working to your satisfaction tune back over to the ISS data
> and listen away...
>
> Thanks
>
> David
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On Behalf Of David L
> Warnberg
> Sent: Friday, May 01, 2015 5:45 PM
> To: 'John Brier'; 'AMSAT BB'
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Help decoding/understanding terrestrial packet
> heard
> on ISS freq 145.825 MHz
>
> For the packet data take a look at UISS software... also for those SSTV
> transmissions from the ISS look at RX-SSTV..
>
> You will also need a packet engine...
>
> Here is what I use
>
> Packet Engine Pro web site = http://www.sv2agw.com/ UISS and RX-SSTV web
> site = http://users.belgacom.net/hamradio/
>
> Hope this helps
>
> 73's
> David
> KK4QOE
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On Behalf Of John Brier
> Sent: Friday, May 01, 2015 5:18 PM
> To: AMSAT BB
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Help decoding/understanding terrestrial packet heard on
> ISS freq 145.825 MHz
>
> Thanks for all the responses on SO-50 preamps and portable setups. I'm
> still
> digesting the info.
>
> TL;DR: I heard automated packet transmissions on the ISS packet frequency
> when the ISS wasn't in sight and recorded them to try and figure out
> who/what they are, but my software isn't decoding anything.
> Can you help me understand what they were, or even better, decode them
> yourself?
>
>
> http://cupcakecarnival.net/sites/default/files/New_Jersey_Terrestrial_Packet
> _145825_2015-04-30-1540_UTC_one.wav
>
>
> http://cupcakecarnival.net/sites/default/files/New_Jersey_Terrestrial_Packet
> _145825_2015-04-30-1540_UTC_two.wav
>
>
> Here's another question that has me excited:
>
> Yesterday after having visited with family in Maplewood, New Jersey for
> several days, I drove home to North Carolina. I knew there was an ISS pass
> at 10:26 AM/1426 UTC, right when I started my trip, so I tuned to 145.825
> MHz and heard its digipeater easily.
>
> Then I left the radio on.
>
> I'm not sure where I was in NJ, but about one hour later, around 11:33 AM
> local/1533 UTC, I heard packet on the frequency again but I was confused
> because there weren't supposed to be any more passes for a while. I
> confirmed on my phone that the ISS was over some far away ocean at the time
> I was hearing these new transmissions, so I knew they must be terrestrial.
> Still, it seemed odd that someone or something was transmitting when the
> ISS
> wasn't in sight...
>
> Maybe it's an internet gateway I thought. Or do people leave their stations
> on the ISS frequency 24/7 so they can "work" any pass that happens?
>
> I tried recording videos of the transmissions for later decoding to figure
> out who or what it was. Eventually I realized it was transmitting every 2
> minutes. It was almost certainly an automated setup, adding credence to the
> idea that this was an internet gateway.
> Unfortunately, before I realized that, and after recording one video of it,
> the best reception I received during my drive by "pass," I wasn't
> recording.
> As I drove further away it only got weaker and weaker. I did manage to get
> two half way decent recordings of it, but I have tried decoding them with
> Soundmodem on Windows and it's not printing out anything like it normally
> does. I am very new to packet, only becoming interested in it because the
> ISS uses it, so I thought maybe someone else might be more equipped to
> decode it. Or certainly someone could shed some light on what I heard,
> maybe
> the operator in NJ is on this list.
>
> I used Audacity to record the audio off the videos I made as well trim and
> amplify the audio, but I haven't done anything else, though if someone
> wants
> the unedited videos I can put them up too.
>
>
> http://cupcakecarnival.net/sites/default/files/New_Jersey_Terrestrial_Packet
> _145825_2015-04-30-1540_UTC_one.wav
>
>
> http://cupcakecarnival.net/sites/default/files/New_Jersey_Terrestrial_Packet
> _145825_2015-04-30-1540_UTC_two.wav
>
> John Brier, KG4AKV, Raleigh, NC, FM05
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Message: 9
Date: Fri, 01 May 2015 18:33:29 -0400
From: "Rich/wa4bue" <richard.siff@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: "AMSAT BB" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Help decoding/understanding terrestrial packet
heard on ISS freq 145.825 MHz
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Which program is used for APRS packet Window 7?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff Moore" <tnetcenter@xxxxx.xxx>
To: "AMSAT BB" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Friday, May 01, 2015 6:28 PM
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Help decoding/understanding terrestrial packet heard
on ISS freq 145.825 MHz
> Basically they are AX.25 packets NOT APRS packets. I know that on my
> radio
> (D710), the setup to work the ISS via packet is different from the normal
> APRS setup. It's been a while since I've done either on that radio, but I
> do know that the setups are mutually exclusive.
>
> Jeff Moore -- KE7ACY
>
> On Fri, May 1, 2015 at 3:17 PM, David L Warnberg <dwarnberg@xxxxxxx.xxx>
> wrote:
>
>> John,
>> Almost forgot... those are basically APRS packets you are
>> hearing..
>> so to test your setup prior to waiting for the ISS to fly over tune your
>> radio to 144.39 to listen a test the software...
>>
>> Then when it's working to your satisfaction tune back over to the ISS
>> data
>> and listen away...
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> David
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On Behalf Of David L
>> Warnberg
>> Sent: Friday, May 01, 2015 5:45 PM
>> To: 'John Brier'; 'AMSAT BB'
>> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Help decoding/understanding terrestrial packet
>> heard
>> on ISS freq 145.825 MHz
>>
>> For the packet data take a look at UISS software... also for those SSTV
>> transmissions from the ISS look at RX-SSTV..
>>
>> You will also need a packet engine...
>>
>> Here is what I use
>>
>> Packet Engine Pro web site = http://www.sv2agw.com/ UISS and RX-SSTV
>> web
>> site = http://users.belgacom.net/hamradio/
>>
>> Hope this helps
>>
>> 73's
>> David
>> KK4QOE
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On Behalf Of John
>> Brier
>> Sent: Friday, May 01, 2015 5:18 PM
>> To: AMSAT BB
>> Subject: [amsat-bb] Help decoding/understanding terrestrial packet heard
>> on
>> ISS freq 145.825 MHz
>>
>> Thanks for all the responses on SO-50 preamps and portable setups. I'm
>> still
>> digesting the info.
>>
>> TL;DR: I heard automated packet transmissions on the ISS packet frequency
>> when the ISS wasn't in sight and recorded them to try and figure out
>> who/what they are, but my software isn't decoding anything.
>> Can you help me understand what they were, or even better, decode them
>> yourself?
>>
>>
>>
http://cupcakecarnival.net/sites/default/files/New_Jersey_Terrestrial_Packet
>> _145825_2015-04-30-1540_UTC_one.wav
>>
>>
>>
http://cupcakecarnival.net/sites/default/files/New_Jersey_Terrestrial_Packet
>> _145825_2015-04-30-1540_UTC_two.wav
>>
>>
>> Here's another question that has me excited:
>>
>> Yesterday after having visited with family in Maplewood, New Jersey for
>> several days, I drove home to North Carolina. I knew there was an ISS
>> pass
>> at 10:26 AM/1426 UTC, right when I started my trip, so I tuned to 145.825
>> MHz and heard its digipeater easily.
>>
>> Then I left the radio on.
>>
>> I'm not sure where I was in NJ, but about one hour later, around 11:33 AM
>> local/1533 UTC, I heard packet on the frequency again but I was confused
>> because there weren't supposed to be any more passes for a while. I
>> confirmed on my phone that the ISS was over some far away ocean at the
>> time
>> I was hearing these new transmissions, so I knew they must be
>> terrestrial.
>> Still, it seemed odd that someone or something was transmitting when the
>> ISS
>> wasn't in sight...
>>
>> Maybe it's an internet gateway I thought. Or do people leave their
>> stations
>> on the ISS frequency 24/7 so they can "work" any pass that happens?
>>
>> I tried recording videos of the transmissions for later decoding to
>> figure
>> out who or what it was. Eventually I realized it was transmitting every 2
>> minutes. It was almost certainly an automated setup, adding credence to
>> the
>> idea that this was an internet gateway.
>> Unfortunately, before I realized that, and after recording one video of
>> it,
>> the best reception I received during my drive by "pass," I wasn't
>> recording.
>> As I drove further away it only got weaker and weaker. I did manage to
>> get
>> two half way decent recordings of it, but I have tried decoding them with
>> Soundmodem on Windows and it's not printing out anything like it normally
>> does. I am very new to packet, only becoming interested in it because the
>> ISS uses it, so I thought maybe someone else might be more equipped to
>> decode it. Or certainly someone could shed some light on what I heard,
>> maybe
>> the operator in NJ is on this list.
>>
>> I used Audacity to record the audio off the videos I made as well trim
>> and
>> amplify the audio, but I haven't done anything else, though if someone
>> wants
>> the unedited videos I can put them up too.
>>
>>
>>
http://cupcakecarnival.net/sites/default/files/New_Jersey_Terrestrial_Packet
>> _145825_2015-04-30-1540_UTC_one.wav
>>
>>
>>
http://cupcakecarnival.net/sites/default/files/New_Jersey_Terrestrial_Packet
>> _145825_2015-04-30-1540_UTC_two.wav
>>
>> John Brier, KG4AKV, Raleigh, NC, FM05
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Message: 10
Date: Fri, 1 May 2015 18:36:21 -0400
From: Robert Bruninga <bruninga@xxxx.xxx>
To: Jeff Moore <tnetcenter@xxxxx.xxx>, AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Help decoding/understanding terrestrial packet
heard on ISS freq 145.825 MHz
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They are probably from PCSAT (NO44) which also acts like a digipeater on
145.825 when sun angles are good. But PCSAT is *barely alive*. It can
barely do one or two packet users per pass before the batteries die again
(every orbit).
You can hear PCSAT more than you can decode it, since the batteries are so
weak, they usually cannot even finish a single packet before the TX power
drops off to nothing. So you never decode bcause you don't get the valid
checksum at the end. You might tyry having PASSALL ON...
Bob, WB4APR
> I heard automated packet transmissions on the ISS packet
> frequency when the ISS wasn't in sight and recorded them to try and
> figure out who/what they are, but my software isn't decoding anything.
> Can you help me understand what they were, or even better, decode them
> yourself?
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Message: 11
Date: Fri, 1 May 2015 20:00:33 -0400
From: Andrew Glasbrenner <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: Ted <k7trkradio@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: "<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>, TJ Campie
<tom.campie@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] WTB: Elk antenna
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I'm not sure if we will have a booth there, but the Elk And Arrows are
Dayton only. Sorry.
Sent from my iPhone
> On May 1, 2015, at 7:37 PM, Ted <k7trkradio@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
> How about SeaPac, Drew??
>
> 73, Ted
> K7TRK
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On Behalf Of Andrew
> Glasbrenner
> Sent: Friday, May 01, 2015 10:51 AM
> To: TJ Campie
> Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] WTB: Elk antenna
>
> If you are going to Dayton, they will be available at the AMSAT booth. Get
> it early because we normally sell out.
>
> 73, Drew KO4MA
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On May 1, 2015, at 1:43 PM, TJ Campie <tom.campie@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>>
>> Interested in purchasing an Elk dualband LPDA, please contact off list
>> if you have something!
>>
>>
>> 73, W0EA
>> TJ
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