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Today's Topics:
1. Re: IC-9700 & FoxTelem 1.08p (Kevin)
2. Re: IC-9700 & FoxTelem 1.08p (Kevin)
3. Re: IC-9700 & FoxTelem 1.08p (Alan)
4. Re: IC-9700 & FoxTelem 1.08p (Kevin)
5. Re: IC-9700 & FoxTelem 1.08p (Bill Booth)
6. Re: Secondary mission ideas (Greg D)
7. Out of the office (Martha)
8. FOR SALE: IC-9100 (Richard Lawn)
9. Re: Secondary mission ideas (Zach Metzinger)
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2019 09:44:24 -0700
From: Kevin <wa7fwf@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] IC-9700 & FoxTelem 1.08p
Message-ID: <13efacb8-1782-b763-8075-cbb151b173dd@?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
Well for grins I upgraded to win 10 pro? 10.0.18362, and upgraded to
java jre1.8.0_231 64 bit? previously it was 32 bit
No change, taking a large wav that should get about 100 frames I still
get zero with all 3 decoders and trying many different settings.
Scratching my head...
73 Kevin
On 10/31/2019 03:33, Alan via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> Kevin,
>
> I just played your recording through 1.08p. Recovered 25 frames, which is
about what you expect. More evidence there is another variable involved.
>
> 73,
>
> Alan
> WA4SCA
>
>
> <-----Original Message-----
> <From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@?????.???? On Behalf Of Kevin
> <via AMSAT-BB
> <Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 22:45 PM
> <To: amsat-bb@?????.???
> <Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] IC-9700 & foxtelem 1.08p
> <
> <Chris,
> < The 9700 outputs a 12khz IF signal that is passed to the internal
> <codec and then out the USB port and windows treats it as a soundcard.
> < I used audacity to create about a 2min file and then read it in on
> <1.07y to verify it is good.
> < I uploaded it to dropbox and the link is
> < https://www.dropbox.com/s/eh5bya72y8gfskt/fox1.wav?dl=0
> <
> <it was recorded at 48000 and has been saved as a wav
> <
> <Thanks
> <Kevin wa7fwf
> <
> <On 10/30/2019 13:59, Chris Thompson via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> <> I have tried to reproduce this, but I do not have a 9700 so it is hard.
So
> <> far I can not work out what is wrong.
> <>
> <> Can someone describe the setup with the 9700? How is the audio read into
> <> the computer and sent to FoxTelem? Is FoxTelem reading it from a sound
> <> card? Or what looks like a sound card?
> <>
> <> Can someone use Audacity and record some audio for me to test with? Try
> <to
> <> record it at the sample rate you use in FoxTelem. e.g. if you set
FoxTelem
> <> to IQ and 48000 samples per second, then set Audacity to 48000 too.
> <>
> <> thanks
> <> Chris
> <>
> <> On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 1:23 PM jeff griffin via AMSAT-BB <
> <> amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
> <>
> <>> I'm going to wait for the fix for the 9700. In the meantime I'm now
> <>> collecting telemetry with my FIAB with a eggbeater antenna setup that
I'm
> <>> going to leave up here for the winter. I'm seeing a much better decode
> <rate
> <>> with 1.08p over 1.07y, about 2 to 1. So I'm seeing 1.08 is clearly
better
> <>> then 1.07. Thanks Chris!
> <>>
> <>> 73 Jeff kb2m
> <>>
> <>> -----Original Message-----
> <>> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@?????.???? On Behalf Of
> <Kevin via
> <>> AMSAT-BB
> <>> Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 12:54 PM
> <>> To: amsat-bb@?????.???
> <>> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] IC-9700 & foxtelem 1.08p
> <>>
> <>> Hi Alan and everyone else that replied,
> <>>
> <>> Windows Sinc also has zero decodes, tried all decoder modes.
> <>>
> <>> for now 1.07y FTW
> <>>
> <>> Thanks
> <>> Kevin
> <>>
> <>>
> <>> On 10/29/2019 23:20, Alan wrote:
> <>>> I you are using the Raised Cosine decoder, try the Windows Sinc
instead.
> <>>>
> <>>> 73,
> <>>>
> <>>> Alan
> <>>>
> <>>> WA4SCA
> <>>>
> <>>> *From: *Kevin via AMSAT-BB <mailto:amsat-bb@?????.???>
> <>>> *Sent: *Wednesday, October 30, 2019 12:21 AM
> <>>> *To: *amsat-bb@?????.??? <mailto:amsat-bb@?????.???>
> <>>> *Subject: *[amsat-bb] IC-9700 & foxtelem 1.08p
> <>>>
> <>>> Hi All,
> <>>>
> <>>> Any IC-9700 users out there that have switched to foxtelem 1.08p
> <>>>
> <>>> using USB and IQ mode? I see a good eye but get zero decodes, dropping
> <>>>
> <>>> back to 1.07y and it all starts working again.
> <>>>
> <>>> 73
> <>>>
> <>>> Kevin WA7FWF
> <>>>
> <>>> _______________________________________________
> <>>>
> <>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum
> <available
> <>>>
> <>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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> <>>>
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> <>>> of AMSAT-NA.
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> <>>>
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> <available
> <>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2019 10:11:44 -0700
From: Kevin <wa7fwf@?????.???>
To: Alan <wa4sca@?????.???>, AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] IC-9700 & FoxTelem 1.08p
Message-ID: <461191ac-d758-8a3e-0dc7-5a55d7de1f85@?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
OK, found a problem.
The output of a 9700 is not a true IQ signal, but you get two "humps" on
foxtelem a left and right "hump".
if you are decoding from the "left" side you get zero decodes, decode
from the "right" side and it decodes from a wav.
Now I need a sat with a live signal.
73
Kevin
On 10/31/2019 03:33, Alan via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> Kevin,
>
> I just played your recording through 1.08p. Recovered 25 frames, which is
about what you expect. More evidence there is another variable involved.
>
> 73,
>
> Alan
> WA4SCA
>
>
> <-----Original Message-----
> <From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@?????.???? On Behalf Of Kevin
> <via AMSAT-BB
> <Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 22:45 PM
> <To: amsat-bb@?????.???
> <Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] IC-9700 & foxtelem 1.08p
> <
> <Chris,
> < The 9700 outputs a 12khz IF signal that is passed to the internal
> <codec and then out the USB port and windows treats it as a soundcard.
> < I used audacity to create about a 2min file and then read it in on
> <1.07y to verify it is good.
> < I uploaded it to dropbox and the link is
> < https://www.dropbox.com/s/eh5bya72y8gfskt/fox1.wav?dl=0
> <
> <it was recorded at 48000 and has been saved as a wav
> <
> <Thanks
> <Kevin wa7fwf
> <
> <On 10/30/2019 13:59, Chris Thompson via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> <> I have tried to reproduce this, but I do not have a 9700 so it is hard.
So
> <> far I can not work out what is wrong.
> <>
> <> Can someone describe the setup with the 9700? How is the audio read into
> <> the computer and sent to FoxTelem? Is FoxTelem reading it from a sound
> <> card? Or what looks like a sound card?
> <>
> <> Can someone use Audacity and record some audio for me to test with? Try
> <to
> <> record it at the sample rate you use in FoxTelem. e.g. if you set
FoxTelem
> <> to IQ and 48000 samples per second, then set Audacity to 48000 too.
> <>
> <> thanks
> <> Chris
> <>
> <> On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 1:23 PM jeff griffin via AMSAT-BB <
> <> amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
> <>
> <>> I'm going to wait for the fix for the 9700. In the meantime I'm now
> <>> collecting telemetry with my FIAB with a eggbeater antenna setup that
I'm
> <>> going to leave up here for the winter. I'm seeing a much better decode
> <rate
> <>> with 1.08p over 1.07y, about 2 to 1. So I'm seeing 1.08 is clearly
better
> <>> then 1.07. Thanks Chris!
> <>>
> <>> 73 Jeff kb2m
> <>>
> <>> -----Original Message-----
> <>> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@?????.???? On Behalf Of
> <Kevin via
> <>> AMSAT-BB
> <>> Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 12:54 PM
> <>> To: amsat-bb@?????.???
> <>> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] IC-9700 & foxtelem 1.08p
> <>>
> <>> Hi Alan and everyone else that replied,
> <>>
> <>> Windows Sinc also has zero decodes, tried all decoder modes.
> <>>
> <>> for now 1.07y FTW
> <>>
> <>> Thanks
> <>> Kevin
> <>>
> <>>
> <>> On 10/29/2019 23:20, Alan wrote:
> <>>> I you are using the Raised Cosine decoder, try the Windows Sinc
instead.
> <>>>
> <>>> 73,
> <>>>
> <>>> Alan
> <>>>
> <>>> WA4SCA
> <>>>
> <>>> *From: *Kevin via AMSAT-BB <mailto:amsat-bb@?????.???>
> <>>> *Sent: *Wednesday, October 30, 2019 12:21 AM
> <>>> *To: *amsat-bb@?????.??? <mailto:amsat-bb@?????.???>
> <>>> *Subject: *[amsat-bb] IC-9700 & foxtelem 1.08p
> <>>>
> <>>> Hi All,
> <>>>
> <>>> Any IC-9700 users out there that have switched to foxtelem 1.08p
> <>>>
> <>>> using USB and IQ mode? I see a good eye but get zero decodes, dropping
> <>>>
> <>>> back to 1.07y and it all starts working again.
> <>>>
> <>>> 73
> <>>>
> <>>> Kevin WA7FWF
> <>>>
> <>>> _______________________________________________
> <>>>
> <>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum
> <available
> <>>>
> <>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> <>>> Opinions expressed
> <>>>
> <>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
> <>>> of AMSAT-NA.
> <>>>
> <>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> <>> program!
> <>>> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> <>>>
> <>> _______________________________________________
> <>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum
> <available
> <>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> <Opinions
> <>> expressed
> <>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> <>> AMSAT-NA.
> <>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> <program!
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> <>>
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> <available
> <>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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> <>> expressed
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> <>> AMSAT-NA.
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> <program!
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> <>>
> <>
> <
> <_______________________________________________
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> <to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> <expressed
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> _______________________________________________
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expressed
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2019 12:30:30 -0500
From: "Alan" <wa4sca@?????.???>
To: "'Kevin'" <wa7fwf@?????.???>, "'AMSAT-BB'" <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] IC-9700 & FoxTelem 1.08p
Message-ID: <000301d59010$e69b1fa0$b3d15ee0$@?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Kevin,
My shack computer runs WIN7 64 bit sp1. I installed a fresh copy of 1.08p
on my WIN10 64 bit computer, version 1903 build 18362.356. I made no
changed to the FoxTelem defaults except to put in my callsign and other
information to keep it happy.
First I ran the file through Raised Cosine using the defaults. 25 frames.
I deleted the log files, switched to Windows Sinc using my standard 1440
length. 25 frames.
No idea what I might be doing different. Usually I am the one who has the
odd problem.
73,
Alan
WA4SCA
<-----Original Message-----
<From: Kevin [mailto:wa7fwf@?????.????
<Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2019 10:09 AM
<To: APBIDDLE@???????.???? Alan <wa4sca@?????.???>; AMSAT-BB
<<amsat-bb@?????.???>
<Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] IC-9700 & FoxTelem 1.08p
<
<Alan,
< Windows 10 pro Version 10.0.17763 Build 17763
< Java jre1.8.0_221
<
< wonder what other variables might be a factor?
<
<73
<Kevin wa7fwf
<
<
<
<On 10/31/2019 03:33, Alan via AMSAT-BB wrote:
<> Kevin,
<>
<> I just played your recording through 1.08p. Recovered 25 frames, which is
<about what you expect. More evidence there is another variable involved.
<>
<> 73,
<>
<> Alan
<> WA4SCA
<>
<>
<> <-----Original Message-----
<> <From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@?????.???? On Behalf Of
<Kevin
<> <via AMSAT-BB
<> <Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 22:45 PM
<> <To: amsat-bb@?????.???
<> <Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] IC-9700 & foxtelem 1.08p
<> <
<> <Chris,
<> < The 9700 outputs a 12khz IF signal that is passed to the internal
<> <codec and then out the USB port and windows treats it as a soundcard.
<> < I used audacity to create about a 2min file and then read it in on
<> <1.07y to verify it is good.
<> < I uploaded it to dropbox and the link is
<> < https://www.dropbox.com/s/eh5bya72y8gfskt/fox1.wav?dl=0
<> <
<> <it was recorded at 48000 and has been saved as a wav
<> <
<> <Thanks
<> <Kevin wa7fwf
<> <
<> <On 10/30/2019 13:59, Chris Thompson via AMSAT-BB wrote:
<> <> I have tried to reproduce this, but I do not have a 9700 so it is
hard. So
<> <> far I can not work out what is wrong.
<> <>
<> <> Can someone describe the setup with the 9700? How is the audio read
<into
<> <> the computer and sent to FoxTelem? Is FoxTelem reading it from a
<sound
<> <> card? Or what looks like a sound card?
<> <>
<> <> Can someone use Audacity and record some audio for me to test with?
<Try
<> <to
<> <> record it at the sample rate you use in FoxTelem. e.g. if you set
<FoxTelem
<> <> to IQ and 48000 samples per second, then set Audacity to 48000 too.
<> <>
<> <> thanks
<> <> Chris
<> <>
<> <> On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 1:23 PM jeff griffin via AMSAT-BB <
<> <> amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
<> <>
<> <>> I'm going to wait for the fix for the 9700. In the meantime I'm now
<> <>> collecting telemetry with my FIAB with a eggbeater antenna setup that
<I'm
<> <>> going to leave up here for the winter. I'm seeing a much better decode
<> <rate
<> <>> with 1.08p over 1.07y, about 2 to 1. So I'm seeing 1.08 is clearly
better
<> <>> then 1.07. Thanks Chris!
<> <>>
<> <>> 73 Jeff kb2m
<> <>>
<> <>> -----Original Message-----
<> <>> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@?????.???? On Behalf Of
<> <Kevin via
<> <>> AMSAT-BB
<> <>> Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 12:54 PM
<> <>> To: amsat-bb@?????.???
<> <>> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] IC-9700 & foxtelem 1.08p
<> <>>
<> <>> Hi Alan and everyone else that replied,
<> <>>
<> <>> Windows Sinc also has zero decodes, tried all decoder modes.
<> <>>
<> <>> for now 1.07y FTW
<> <>>
<> <>> Thanks
<> <>> Kevin
<> <>>
<> <>>
<> <>> On 10/29/2019 23:20, Alan wrote:
<> <>>> I you are using the Raised Cosine decoder, try the Windows Sinc
<instead.
<> <>>>
<> <>>> 73,
<> <>>>
<> <>>> Alan
<> <>>>
<> <>>> WA4SCA
<> <>>>
<> <>>> *From: *Kevin via AMSAT-BB <mailto:amsat-bb@?????.???>
<> <>>> *Sent: *Wednesday, October 30, 2019 12:21 AM
<> <>>> *To: *amsat-bb@?????.??? <mailto:amsat-bb@?????.???>
<> <>>> *Subject: *[amsat-bb] IC-9700 & foxtelem 1.08p
<> <>>>
<> <>>> Hi All,
<> <>>>
<> <>>> Any IC-9700 users out there that have switched to foxtelem 1.08p
<> <>>>
<> <>>> using USB and IQ mode? I see a good eye but get zero decodes,
<dropping
<> <>>>
<> <>>> back to 1.07y and it all starts working again.
<> <>>>
<> <>>> 73
<> <>>>
<> <>>> Kevin WA7FWF
<> <>>>
<> <>>> _______________________________________________
<> <>>>
<> <>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum
<> <available
<> <>>>
<> <>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
<> <>>> Opinions expressed
<> <>>>
<> <>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
<> <>>> of AMSAT-NA.
<> <>>>
<> <>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
<> <>> program!
<> <>>> Subscription settings:
<https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
<> <>>>
<> <>> _______________________________________________
<> <>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum
<> <available
<> <>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
<> <Opinions
<> <>> expressed
<> <>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
of
<> <>> AMSAT-NA.
<> <>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
<> <program!
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<bb
<> <>>
<> <>> _______________________________________________
<> <>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum
<> <available
<> <>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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<> <>> expressed
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of
<> <>> AMSAT-NA.
<> <>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
<> <program!
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<bb
<> <>>
<> <>
<> <
<> <_______________________________________________
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<available
<> <to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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<> <expressed
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<AMSAT-
<> <NA.
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<> <program!
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<>
<> _______________________________________________
<> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum
<available
<> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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<> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
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<program!
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2019 11:17:03 -0700
From: Kevin <wa7fwf@?????.???>
To: APBIDDLE@???????.???? 'AMSAT-BB' <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] IC-9700 & FoxTelem 1.08p
Message-ID: <d13a568e-dace-12b8-2c05-bb5ef436599f@?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
Alan,
? Just had 95, 91 and 92? go by and all 3 decoded and all 3 decoders
also worked although windowed sinc seems to be the best.
Whats interesting is 1.07Y will decode if you are on the left side or
the right side of the image but 1.08 only works if you are on the
"right" side,
I will leave that up to Chris to explain why that is.
? I can go in and tweak the frequency settings to make foxtelem always
look on the right side.
?73
Kevin wa7fwf
On 10/31/2019 10:30, Alan wrote:
> Kevin,
>
> My shack computer runs WIN7 64 bit sp1. I installed a fresh copy of 1.08p
on my WIN10 64 bit computer, version 1903 build 18362.356. I made no
changed to the FoxTelem defaults except to put in my callsign and other
information to keep it happy.
>
> First I ran the file through Raised Cosine using the defaults. 25 frames.
I deleted the log files, switched to Windows Sinc using my standard 1440
length. 25 frames.
>
> No idea what I might be doing different. Usually I am the one who has the
odd problem.
>
> 73,
>
> Alan
> WA4SCA
>
>
> <-----Original Message-----
> <From: Kevin [mailto:wa7fwf@?????.????
> <Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2019 10:09 AM
> <To: APBIDDLE@???????.???? Alan <wa4sca@?????.???>; AMSAT-BB
> <<amsat-bb@?????.???>
> <Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] IC-9700 & FoxTelem 1.08p
> <
> <Alan,
> < Windows 10 pro Version 10.0.17763 Build 17763
> < Java jre1.8.0_221
> <
> < wonder what other variables might be a factor?
> <
> <73
> <Kevin wa7fwf
> <
> <
> <
> <On 10/31/2019 03:33, Alan via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> <> Kevin,
> <>
> <> I just played your recording through 1.08p. Recovered 25 frames, which
is
> <about what you expect. More evidence there is another variable involved.
> <>
> <> 73,
> <>
> <> Alan
> <> WA4SCA
> <>
> <>
> <> <-----Original Message-----
> <> <From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@?????.???? On Behalf Of
> <Kevin
> <> <via AMSAT-BB
> <> <Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 22:45 PM
> <> <To: amsat-bb@?????.???
> <> <Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] IC-9700 & foxtelem 1.08p
> <> <
> <> <Chris,
> <> < The 9700 outputs a 12khz IF signal that is passed to the internal
> <> <codec and then out the USB port and windows treats it as a soundcard.
> <> < I used audacity to create about a 2min file and then read it in on
> <> <1.07y to verify it is good.
> <> < I uploaded it to dropbox and the link is
> <> < https://www.dropbox.com/s/eh5bya72y8gfskt/fox1.wav?dl=0
> <> <
> <> <it was recorded at 48000 and has been saved as a wav
> <> <
> <> <Thanks
> <> <Kevin wa7fwf
> <> <
> <> <On 10/30/2019 13:59, Chris Thompson via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> <> <> I have tried to reproduce this, but I do not have a 9700 so it is
hard. So
> <> <> far I can not work out what is wrong.
> <> <>
> <> <> Can someone describe the setup with the 9700? How is the audio read
> <into
> <> <> the computer and sent to FoxTelem? Is FoxTelem reading it from a
> <sound
> <> <> card? Or what looks like a sound card?
> <> <>
> <> <> Can someone use Audacity and record some audio for me to test with?
> <Try
> <> <to
> <> <> record it at the sample rate you use in FoxTelem. e.g. if you set
> <FoxTelem
> <> <> to IQ and 48000 samples per second, then set Audacity to 48000 too.
> <> <>
> <> <> thanks
> <> <> Chris
> <> <>
> <> <> On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 1:23 PM jeff griffin via AMSAT-BB <
> <> <> amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
> <> <>
> <> <>> I'm going to wait for the fix for the 9700. In the meantime I'm
now
> <> <>> collecting telemetry with my FIAB with a eggbeater antenna setup that
> <I'm
> <> <>> going to leave up here for the winter. I'm seeing a much better
decode
> <> <rate
> <> <>> with 1.08p over 1.07y, about 2 to 1. So I'm seeing 1.08 is clearly
better
> <> <>> then 1.07. Thanks Chris!
> <> <>>
> <> <>> 73 Jeff kb2m
> <> <>>
> <> <>> -----Original Message-----
> <> <>> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@?????.???? On Behalf Of
> <> <Kevin via
> <> <>> AMSAT-BB
> <> <>> Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 12:54 PM
> <> <>> To: amsat-bb@?????.???
> <> <>> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] IC-9700 & foxtelem 1.08p
> <> <>>
> <> <>> Hi Alan and everyone else that replied,
> <> <>>
> <> <>> Windows Sinc also has zero decodes, tried all decoder modes.
> <> <>>
> <> <>> for now 1.07y FTW
> <> <>>
> <> <>> Thanks
> <> <>> Kevin
> <> <>>
> <> <>>
> <> <>> On 10/29/2019 23:20, Alan wrote:
> <> <>>> I you are using the Raised Cosine decoder, try the Windows Sinc
> <instead.
> <> <>>>
> <> <>>> 73,
> <> <>>>
> <> <>>> Alan
> <> <>>>
> <> <>>> WA4SCA
> <> <>>>
> <> <>>> *From: *Kevin via AMSAT-BB <mailto:amsat-bb@?????.???>
> <> <>>> *Sent: *Wednesday, October 30, 2019 12:21 AM
> <> <>>> *To: *amsat-bb@?????.??? <mailto:amsat-bb@?????.???>
> <> <>>> *Subject: *[amsat-bb] IC-9700 & foxtelem 1.08p
> <> <>>>
> <> <>>> Hi All,
> <> <>>>
> <> <>>> Any IC-9700 users out there that have switched to foxtelem 1.08p
> <> <>>>
> <> <>>> using USB and IQ mode? I see a good eye but get zero decodes,
> <dropping
> <> <>>>
> <> <>>> back to 1.07y and it all starts working again.
> <> <>>>
> <> <>>> 73
> <> <>>>
> <> <>>> Kevin WA7FWF
> <> <>>>
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2019 14:18:13 -0400
From: Bill Booth <ve3nxk@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] IC-9700 & FoxTelem 1.08p
Message-ID: <5DBB2565.8040508@?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
On 2019-10-31 11:08 AM, Kevin via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> Windows 10 pro Version 10.0.17763 Build 17763
You may want to update the Windows 10 to the last update. His is a list of
the
updates so far ... you could be 4 updates behind.
Version 1507
Version 1511 (November Update)
Version 1607 (Anniversary Update)
Version 1703 (Creators Update)
Version 1709 (Fall Creators Update)
Version 1803 (April 2018 Update)
Version 1809 (October 2018 Update)
Version 1903 (May 2019 Update)
Version 1909 (November 2019 Update)
An easy way to get the updates without using the Windows Update in the
Settings
section is to go here and download the update tool. Just be ready for a 3 GB
downlaod and maybe 3 hrs install ... maybe.
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10
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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2019 13:10:53 -0700
From: Greg D <ko6th.greg@?????.???>
To: Cathryn Mataga <cathryn@????????????.???>
Cc: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Secondary mission ideas
Message-ID: <f8c2581f-87b9-2f40-9fd5-dfe915bfde06@?????.???>
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I love the idea, Cathryn, but it needs to have some mechanism to prevent
someone(s) from continually uploading an image or images, filling the
queue. History with the ISS and unattended stations beaconing
incessantly for apparently vanity purposes to show up on the "Stations
Heard" site suggests that this Commons resource could be tragically made
inaccessible to most. Also need to have some way to securely link an
image to a call sign, so that inappropriate content can't be uploaded
anonymously.
But, with those measures in place, I think it would be a great way to
bring in the larger community, and see what's going on in Ham Radio
around the world. Basically, it's a regular store-and-forward BBS
system with a dedicated message type (image), and an on-going download
similar to the ISS Slow Scan TV events. I can imagine someone lashing
up an SDR receiver and an electronic "picture frame" to display a
rotating image from space.
Greg KO6TH
Cathryn Mataga via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> My pitch, store and forward tiny images. The receiver listens on the
> receive channel 9600 baud for digital images. It just listens only.
> Whenever it receives one with proper headers and without error, it
> stores it. Then on the downlink, it cycles through the last 20 or so,
> or about however many can be downloaded in an overhead pass. When the
> 21st picture comes in, it just throws away the oldest image. I suggest
> using .png formatted graphics with a file size limit of 8192 bytes,
> something like this? Enough pixels to be fun, but not so much to get
> unwieldy.
>
> This would make a fun visual demo to show off amsat/ham radio -- the
> satellite would show a cool little slide show from stations around the
> world.
>
>
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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2019 16:15:08 -0400
From: Martha <martha@?????.???>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>, senior-officers
<senior-officers@?????.???>, Board of Directors <bod@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Out of the office
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I will be out of the office tomorrow.
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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2019 16:28:08 -0400
From: Richard Lawn <rjlawn@?????.???>
To: Amsat BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] FOR SALE: IC-9100
Message-ID:
<CADQmrTFD0b7s3QZZfn7WWthFWZWaDPG9x3e2HmyyBYX8+8yxfg@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
I finally decided to put the 9100 up for sale on QTH.com. Anyone interested
please check it out. I need to pay for some new 23cm gear hi hi!
73
Rick, W2JAZ
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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2019 15:28:50 -0500
From: Zach Metzinger <zmetzing@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Secondary mission ideas
Message-ID: <4d507e07-ee77-76a5-b092-085d503414e2@?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
On 2019-10-31 15:10, Greg D via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> Also need to have some way to securely link an
> image to a call sign, so that inappropriate content can't be uploaded
> anonymously.
This may be going way too far for a hobby. What's next, fingerprint or
biometric data before I'm allowed to turn on my HF rig and transmit a
picture across the world via SSTV?
--- Zach
N0ZGO
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