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Today's Topics:
1. Re: IC-9700 + 9600 baud packet? (Gregory Beat)
2. Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2019-11-01 22:00 UTC
(aj9n@???.????
3. Re: IC-9700 + 9600 baud packet? (Mark L. Hammond)
4. Re: IC-9700 + 9600 baud packet? (Stefan Wagener)
5. RaDAR AO-91 Pass Saturday (Greg Lane)
6. Re: IC-9700 & FoxTelem 1.08p (Chris Thompson)
7. Re: IC-9700 & FoxTelem 1.08p (Kevin)
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2019 16:43:55 -0500
From: Gregory Beat <w9gb@??????.???>
To: charlieray@?????.???? amsat-bb@?????.???
Cc: info@?????.??
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] IC-9700 + 9600 baud packet?
Message-ID: <ED47A7B7-D2BD-422B-A541-44630740DB68@??????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
?Sounds like an opportunity for SYMEK (German company closed 2014),
that offered various high-speed add-on boards for AMSAT satellite operators.
http://www.symek.com/g/index-g.html
greg
w9gb
==
Message
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2019 16:28:40 -0700
From: Kevin <wa7fwf@?????.???>
To: Charles Reiche <charlieray@?????.???>
Cc: AMSAT BB <Amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] IC-9700 + 9600 baud packet?
Charles,
A bunch of us spent a long time trying to get this to work, I tried with my
Kantronics 9612.
Icom was asked many times where the bottleneck is, hardware? firmware? and
they refuse to say one way or the other.
Their only answer has been that "we" (radio amateurs) should have seen them
removing 9600 packet support from the mobile market,so it should have been
no big surprise that they removed it from the 9700.
73 Kevin WA7FWF
Sent from iPad Air
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2019 22:07:33 +0000 (UTC)
From: aj9n@???.???
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2019-11-01
22:00 UTC
Message-ID: <1331503529.30409.1572646053139@????.?????.???>
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Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2019-11-01 22:00 UTC
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Quick list of scheduled contacts and events:
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Private UKEB School, Izmir, Turkey, telebridge via K6DUE
The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS
The scheduled astronaut is Luca Parmitano KF5KDP
Contact is go for: Tue 2019-11-05 12:34:49 UTC 67 deg
Watch for live stream at:? (***)
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHI1hqkeATG-6-rLty4k19A
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Istituto Comprensivo ?G.B. Perasso?, Milano, Italy and Istituto Comprensivo
Montignoso ? Scuola secondaria I grado ?G.B.Giorgini?, Montignoso, Italy,
telebridge via VK5ZAI
The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS
The scheduled astronaut is Luca Parmitano KF5KDP
Contact is go for: Wed 2019-11-06 09:27:34 UTC 32 deg
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The ARISS webpage is at https://www.ariss.org/ ???
Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site.
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The main page for Applying to Host a Scheduled Contact may be found at
https://www.ariss.org/apply-to-host-an-ariss-contact.html ???
ARISS Contact Applications (United States)
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Note, all times are approximate. ?It is recommended that you do your own
orbital prediction?or start listening about 10 minutes before the listed
time.
All dates and times listed follow International Standard ISO 8601 date and
time format YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS
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The complete schedule page has been updated as of?2019-11-01 22:00 UTC.? (***)
Here you will find a listing of all scheduled?school contacts, and
questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and Echolink websites, and
instructions for any contact that may be streamed live.
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https://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf
https://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.txt
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The successful school list has been updated as of 2019-10-29 19:30 UTC.
https://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf
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The ARISS webpage is at https://www.ariss.org/ ???
Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site.
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The main page for Applying to Host a Scheduled Contact may be found at
https://www.ariss.org/apply-to-host-an-ariss-contact.html ???
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ARISS Contact Applications (United States)
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The ARISS webpage is at https://www.ariss.org/ ???
Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site.
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Message to US Educators?(***)
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Amateur Radio on the International Space Station?
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Contact Opportunity?
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Call for Proposals?
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Current Proposal Window is October 1, 2019 to November 30, 2019
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Upcoming Proposal Window is February 1, 2020 to March 31, 2020? (***)
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The Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS) Program is
seeking formal and informal education institutions and organizations,
individually or working together, to host an Amateur Radio contact with a
crew member on board the ISS. ARISS anticipates that the contact for
proposals submitted in the proposal window now open would be held between
July 1, 2020 and December 31, 2020.? ARISS is happy to announce a second
proposal window will open February 1, 2020 for contacts that would be held
between January 1, 2021 and June 30, 2021. Crew scheduling and ISS orbits
will determine the exact contact dates. To maximize these radio contact
opportunities, ARISS is looking for organizations that will draw large
numbers of participants and integrate the contact into a well-developed
education plan.?
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The deadline to submit proposals for contacts between July 1, 2020 and
December 31, 2020 is November 30, 2019.? The proposal window for contacts
between January 1, 2021 and June 30, 2021 will open on February 1, 2020 and
close on March 31, 2020.? Proposal information and documents can be found at
www.ariss.org. Two ARISS Introductory Webinar sessions will be held on
November 7, 2019. The first is at 6:00 PM ET and the second is at 9:00 PM
ET. The same material will be covered during both sessions, so choose the
session that best fits your schedule. The Eventbrite link to sign up
is?https://ariss-introductory-webinar-fall-2019.eventbrite.com?.
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The Opportunity?
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Crew members aboard the International Space Station will participate in
scheduled Amateur Radio contacts. These radio contacts are approximately 10
minutes in length and allow students to interact with the astronauts through
a question-and-answer session.?
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An ARISS contact is a voice-only communication opportunity via Amateur Radio
between astronauts and cosmonauts aboard the space station and classrooms
and communities. ARISS contacts afford education audiences the opportunity
to learn firsthand from astronauts what it is like to live and work in space
and to learn about space research conducted on the ISS. Students also will
have an opportunity to learn about satellite communication, wireless
technology, and radio science. Because of the nature of human spaceflight
and the complexity of scheduling activities aboard the ISS, organizations
must demonstrate flexibility to accommodate changes in dates and times of
the radio contact.?
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Amateur Radio organizations around the world with the support of NASA and
space agencies in Russia, Canada, Japan and Europe present educational
organizations with this opportunity. The ham radio organizations' volunteer
efforts provide the equipment and operational support to enable
communication between crew on the ISS and students around the world using
Amateur Radio.??
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More Information
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For proposal information and more details such as expectations, proposal
guidelines and proposal form, and dates and times of Information Webinars,
go to www.ariss.org.
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Please direct any questions to?ariss.us.education@?????.????.?
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About ARISS:
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Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS) is a cooperative
venture of international amateur radio societies and the space agencies that
support the International Space Station (ISS).? In the United States,
sponsors are the Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT), the American
Radio Relay League (ARRL), the ISS National Lab and National Aeronautics and
Space Administration (NASA). The primary goal of ARISS is to promote
exploration of science, technology, engineering, and mathematics (STEAM)
topics by organizing scheduled contacts via amateur radio between crew
members aboard the ISS and students in classrooms or public forms. Before
and during these radio contacts, students, educators, parents, and
communities learn about space, space technologies, and amateur radio. For
more information, see www.ariss.org.
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ARISS Contact Applications (Europe, Africa and the Middle East)
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Schools and Youth organizations in Europe, Africa and the Middle East
interested in setting up an ARISS radio contact with an astronaut on board
the International Space Station are invited to submit an application from
September to October and from February to April.
Please refer to details and the application form at
www.ariss-eu.org/school-contacts.? Applications should be addressed by email
to:? school.selection.manager@????????.???
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ARISS Contact Applications (Canada, Central and South America, Asia and
Australia and Russia)
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Organizations outside the United States can apply for an ARISS contact by
filling out an application.? Please direct questions to the appropriate
regional representative listed below. If your country is not specifically
listed, send your questions to the nearest ARISS Region listed. If you are
unsure which address to use, please send your question to the ARISS-Canada
representative; they will forward your question to the appropriate
coordinator.
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For the application, go to: ?https://www.ariss.org/ariss-application.html.
ARISS-Canada and the Americas, except USA: Steve McFarlane, VE3TBD email to:
ve3tbd@?????.???
ARISS-Japan, Asia, Pacific and Australia: Satoshi Yasuda, 7M3TJZ email to:
ariss@???????.???? Japan Amateur Radio League (JARL) https://www.jarl.org/
ARISS-Russia: Soyuz Radioljubitelei Rossii (SRR) https://srr.ru/
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ARISS is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts.?
ARISS thanks everyone in advance for their assistance.? Feel free to send
your reports to aj9n@?????.??? or aj9n@???.???.
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Listen for the ISS on the downlink of 145.8? MHz.
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All ARISS contacts are made via the Kenwood radio unless otherwise noted.
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Several of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and
not being able to get in. ?That has now been changed to https://www.ariss.org/
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Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site.
?
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Looking for something new to do?? How about receiving DATV from the ISS??
Please note that the HamTV system has been brought back to earth for
troubleshooting.? Please monitor ARISS-EU or ARISS-ON for the very latest
news on the troubleshooting efforts.?
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If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for complete details.?
Look for the buttons indicating Ham Video.????????????
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http://www.ariss-eu.org/
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If you need some assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to
provide some insight.? Contact Kerry at kbanke@?????????.???
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The HamTV webpage:? https://www.amsat-on.be/hamtv-summary/
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ARISS congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100
schools:
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Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 136
Francesco IK?WGF with 135
Sergey RV3DR with 127
Gaston ON4WF with 123
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The webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy. Out of date
webpages were removed, and new ones have been added.? If there are additional
ARISS websites I need to know about, please let me know.
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Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1355.
Each school counts as 1 event.??????????????????????????????????
Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 1294.
Each contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot.
Total number of ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is 47.
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A complete year by year breakdown of the contacts may be found in the
file.
https://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf
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Please feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are needed.
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The following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact:
South Dakota, Wyoming, American?Samoa, Guam, Northern Marianas Islands, and
the Virgin Islands.
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QSL information may be found at:
https://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html
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ISS callsigns: DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS, RS?ISS
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Frequency chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing
Doppler correction? as of 2005-07-29 04:00 UTC
https://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction.
rtf
Check out the Zoho reports of the ARISS contacts
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https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415
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Exp. 59 on orbit
Christina Koch
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Exp. 60 on orbit
Luca Parmitano KF5KDP
Alexander Skvortsov
Drew Morgan KI5AAA
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Exp. 61 on orbit
Oleg Skripochka
Jessica Meir
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73,
Charlie?Sufana AJ9N
One of the ARISS operation team mentors
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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2019 06:28:48 +0800
From: "Mark L. Hammond" <marklhammond@?????.???>
To: Gregory Beat <w9gb@??????.???>
Cc: info@?????.??? amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] IC-9700 + 9600 baud packet?
Message-ID:
<CAPRXzyoO9x-edB-pZdrFhgTMjsV8KBmDd+7b9wEQj=OM2B7SWA@????.?????.???>
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Sadly i don?t think that is a fix. Unless Icom releases a new firmware to
fix 9k6 bandwidth on xmit, we?re dead in the water on this one. It?s not
just a tap in the rig or a TNC issue. It?s an SDR issue in the radio
firmware.
If anyone can influence Icom, please do so!!!!!
Mark N8MH
On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 5:45 AM Gregory Beat via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
wrote:
> Sounds like an opportunity for SYMEK (German company closed 2014),
> that offered various high-speed add-on boards for AMSAT satellite
> operators.
> http://www.symek.com/g/index-g.html
>
> greg
> w9gb
> ==
> Message
> Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2019 16:28:40 -0700
> From: Kevin <wa7fwf@?????.???>
> To: Charles Reiche <charlieray@?????.???>
> Cc: AMSAT BB <Amsat-bb@?????.???>
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] IC-9700 + 9600 baud packet?
>
> Charles,
> A bunch of us spent a long time trying to get this to work, I tried with
> my Kantronics 9612.
> Icom was asked many times where the bottleneck is, hardware? firmware? and
> they refuse to say one way or the other.
> Their only answer has been that "we" (radio amateurs) should have seen
> them removing 9600 packet support from the mobile market,so it should have
> been no big surprise that they removed it from the 9700.
>
> 73 Kevin WA7FWF
>
>
> Sent from iPad Air
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
--
Mark L. Hammond [N8MH]
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2019 20:26:24 -0500
From: Stefan Wagener <wageners@?????.???>
To: "Mark L. Hammond" <marklhammond@?????.???>
Cc: info@?????.??? Gregory Beat <w9gb@??????.???>, AMSAT BB
<amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] IC-9700 + 9600 baud packet?
Message-ID:
<CAKu8kHBzUO4t-ypOQFgiJNZSYbASd1a+rt_LorUpGC6hN+TBMQ@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
While I have no need for 9K6 on my IC-9700, I certainly understand those
that have and yes, if more folks can contact Icom it might help. and I will
do that on my end.
Now, having said that, it is also imperative that those folks designing
satellites with certain modes of operation take a serious look at
*available* hardware/software that is used by a majority of amateur radio
operators, if and I say "if" they like a broad response from the community.
If not, you can be as esoteric as you like with satellites knowing that you
limit their use to a few.
My 2 cents,
Stefan VE4SW
On Fri, Nov 1, 2019 at 5:33 PM Mark L. Hammond via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
> Sadly i don?t think that is a fix. Unless Icom releases a new firmware to
> fix 9k6 bandwidth on xmit, we?re dead in the water on this one. It?s not
> just a tap in the rig or a TNC issue. It?s an SDR issue in the radio
> firmware.
>
> If anyone can influence Icom, please do so!!!!!
>
> Mark N8MH
>
> On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 5:45 AM Gregory Beat via AMSAT-BB <
> amsat-bb@?????.???>
> wrote:
>
> > Sounds like an opportunity for SYMEK (German company closed 2014),
> > that offered various high-speed add-on boards for AMSAT satellite
> > operators.
> > http://www.symek.com/g/index-g.html
> >
> > greg
> > w9gb
> > ==
> > Message
> > Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2019 16:28:40 -0700
> > From: Kevin <wa7fwf@?????.???>
> > To: Charles Reiche <charlieray@?????.???>
> > Cc: AMSAT BB <Amsat-bb@?????.???>
> > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] IC-9700 + 9600 baud packet?
> >
> > Charles,
> > A bunch of us spent a long time trying to get this to work, I tried with
> > my Kantronics 9612.
> > Icom was asked many times where the bottleneck is, hardware? firmware?
> and
> > they refuse to say one way or the other.
> > Their only answer has been that "we" (radio amateurs) should have seen
> > them removing 9600 packet support from the mobile market,so it should
> have
> > been no big surprise that they removed it from the 9700.
> >
> > 73 Kevin WA7FWF
> >
> >
> > Sent from iPad Air
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions
> > expressed
> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> > AMSAT-NA.
> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
> > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> >
> --
> Mark L. Hammond [N8MH]
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2019 05:28:22 -0500
From: Greg Lane <lanekg@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] RaDAR AO-91 Pass Saturday
Message-ID:
<CAKBWdLpbcWD9BuPSkp5ZDXXYqQSuzi6OkxeEL2xA+6yOPuWCdQ@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
A contact on this pass appreciated for the RaDAR bonus. I will stand down
on SO-50.
AO-91 will be visible from Crawfordville, FL on Saturday, November 2
12:55:26 PM
Maximum elevation: 40.1??
http://issdetector.com
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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2019 08:26:51 -0400
From: Chris Thompson <g0kla@????.???>
To: jeff griffin <kb2m@????.???>
Cc: AMSAT <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] IC-9700 & FoxTelem 1.08p
Message-ID:
<CAJOf0+vDreA0wzx_i7J3rEJ1=1oy+E3e2ZNq21nQYxnUT1d9AQ@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
For anyone following this thread, the code is now fixed. There were two
issues that prevented good decodes from the IC-9700.
1/ The IF output of the IC-9700 is not a true IQ signal and you have both a
lower and upper sideband image. One has the bits flipped upside down.
Historically FoxTelem has coped with the bits with either sense, even
though only one is "correct", so 1.07 decoded fine from the wrong image. I
had introduced a bug that meant the "bit flip" check was not run. That
code is back in.
2/ There was also an issue where the algorithm that finds the signal was
not being run if SatPC32 position was being read. That was a common
configuration for IC-9700 owners, so it compounded the problem.
You can download the jar file and patch your installation from here:
http://amsat.us/FoxTelem/test/FoxTelem.jar
Or install the whole 1.08r release as normal from here:
http://amsat.us/FoxTelem/windows/
http://amsat.us/FoxTelem/linux/
http://amsat.us/FoxTelem/mac/
73
Chris
On Thu, Oct 31, 2019 at 6:12 PM jeff griffin via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
> I just reinstalled 1.08p and can now decode the WAV file Left, or Right,
> Raised Cosine, or Windowed Sync. Decoded 23 23 23 23 packets. Now what's
> odd is I couldn't get the WAV file to decode until I deleted 108y, and then
> reinstalled it. Win10 build 1903.
>
> tonight's passes will be interesting...
>
> 73 Jeff kb2m
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@?????.???? On Behalf Of Kevin via
> AMSAT-BB
> Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2019 2:17 PM
> To: APBIDDLE@???????.???? 'AMSAT-BB'
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] IC-9700 & FoxTelem 1.08p
>
> Alan,
> Just had 95, 91 and 92 go by and all 3 decoded and all 3 decoders
> also worked although windowed sinc seems to be the best.
> Whats interesting is 1.07Y will decode if you are on the left side or
> the right side of the image but 1.08 only works if you are on the
> "right" side,
> I will leave that up to Chris to explain why that is.
> I can go in and tweak the frequency settings to make foxtelem always
> look on the right side.
>
> 73
> Kevin wa7fwf
>
> On 10/31/2019 10:30, Alan wrote:
> > Kevin,
> >
> > My shack computer runs WIN7 64 bit sp1. I installed a fresh copy of
> 1.08p on my WIN10 64 bit computer, version 1903 build 18362.356. I made no
> changed to the FoxTelem defaults except to put in my callsign and other
> information to keep it happy.
> >
> > First I ran the file through Raised Cosine using the defaults. 25
> frames. I deleted the log files, switched to Windows Sinc using my
> standard 1440 length. 25 frames.
> >
> > No idea what I might be doing different. Usually I am the one who has
> the odd problem.
> >
> > 73,
> >
> > Alan
> > WA4SCA
> >
> >
> > <-----Original Message-----
> > <From: Kevin [mailto:wa7fwf@?????.????
> > <Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2019 10:09 AM
> > <To: APBIDDLE@???????.???? Alan <wa4sca@?????.???>; AMSAT-BB
> > <<amsat-bb@?????.???>
> > <Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] IC-9700 & FoxTelem 1.08p
> > <
> > <Alan,
> > < Windows 10 pro Version 10.0.17763 Build 17763
> > < Java jre1.8.0_221
> > <
> > < wonder what other variables might be a factor?
> > <
> > <73
> > <Kevin wa7fwf
> > <
> > <
> > <
> > <On 10/31/2019 03:33, Alan via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> > <> Kevin,
> > <>
> > <> I just played your recording through 1.08p. Recovered 25 frames,
> which is
> > <about what you expect. More evidence there is another variable
> involved.
> > <>
> > <> 73,
> > <>
> > <> Alan
> > <> WA4SCA
> > <>
> > <>
> > <> <-----Original Message-----
> > <> <From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@?????.???? On Behalf Of
> > <Kevin
> > <> <via AMSAT-BB
> > <> <Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 22:45 PM
> > <> <To: amsat-bb@?????.???
> > <> <Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] IC-9700 & foxtelem 1.08p
> > <> <
> > <> <Chris,
> > <> < The 9700 outputs a 12khz IF signal that is passed to the internal
> > <> <codec and then out the USB port and windows treats it as a soundcard.
> > <> < I used audacity to create about a 2min file and then read it in on
> > <> <1.07y to verify it is good.
> > <> < I uploaded it to dropbox and the link is
> > <> < https://www.dropbox.com/s/eh5bya72y8gfskt/fox1.wav?dl=0
> > <> <
> > <> <it was recorded at 48000 and has been saved as a wav
> > <> <
> > <> <Thanks
> > <> <Kevin wa7fwf
> > <> <
> > <> <On 10/30/2019 13:59, Chris Thompson via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> > <> <> I have tried to reproduce this, but I do not have a 9700 so it is
> hard. So
> > <> <> far I can not work out what is wrong.
> > <> <>
> > <> <> Can someone describe the setup with the 9700? How is the audio
> read
> > <into
> > <> <> the computer and sent to FoxTelem? Is FoxTelem reading it from a
> > <sound
> > <> <> card? Or what looks like a sound card?
> > <> <>
> > <> <> Can someone use Audacity and record some audio for me to test with?
> > <Try
> > <> <to
> > <> <> record it at the sample rate you use in FoxTelem. e.g. if you set
> > <FoxTelem
> > <> <> to IQ and 48000 samples per second, then set Audacity to 48000 too.
> > <> <>
> > <> <> thanks
> > <> <> Chris
> > <> <>
> > <> <> On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 1:23 PM jeff griffin via AMSAT-BB <
> > <> <> amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
> > <> <>
> > <> <>> I'm going to wait for the fix for the 9700. In the meantime
> I'm now
> > <> <>> collecting telemetry with my FIAB with a eggbeater antenna setup
> that
> > <I'm
> > <> <>> going to leave up here for the winter. I'm seeing a much better
> decode
> > <> <rate
> > <> <>> with 1.08p over 1.07y, about 2 to 1. So I'm seeing 1.08 is
> clearly better
> > <> <>> then 1.07. Thanks Chris!
> > <> <>>
> > <> <>> 73 Jeff kb2m
> > <> <>>
> > <> <>> -----Original Message-----
> > <> <>> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@?????.???? On Behalf Of
> > <> <Kevin via
> > <> <>> AMSAT-BB
> > <> <>> Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 12:54 PM
> > <> <>> To: amsat-bb@?????.???
> > <> <>> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] IC-9700 & foxtelem 1.08p
> > <> <>>
> > <> <>> Hi Alan and everyone else that replied,
> > <> <>>
> > <> <>> Windows Sinc also has zero decodes, tried all decoder modes.
> > <> <>>
> > <> <>> for now 1.07y FTW
> > <> <>>
> > <> <>> Thanks
> > <> <>> Kevin
> > <> <>>
> > <> <>>
> > <> <>> On 10/29/2019 23:20, Alan wrote:
> > <> <>>> I you are using the Raised Cosine decoder, try the Windows Sinc
> > <instead.
> > <> <>>>
> > <> <>>> 73,
> > <> <>>>
> > <> <>>> Alan
> > <> <>>>
> > <> <>>> WA4SCA
> > <> <>>>
> > <> <>>> *From: *Kevin via AMSAT-BB <mailto:amsat-bb@?????.???>
> > <> <>>> *Sent: *Wednesday, October 30, 2019 12:21 AM
> > <> <>>> *To: *amsat-bb@?????.??? <mailto:amsat-bb@?????.???>
> > <> <>>> *Subject: *[amsat-bb] IC-9700 & foxtelem 1.08p
> > <> <>>>
> > <> <>>> Hi All,
> > <> <>>>
> > <> <>>> Any IC-9700 users out there that have switched to foxtelem
> 1.08p
> > <> <>>>
> > <> <>>> using USB and IQ mode? I see a good eye but get zero decodes,
> > <dropping
> > <> <>>>
> > <> <>>> back to 1.07y and it all starts working again.
> > <> <>>>
> > <> <>>> 73
> > <> <>>>
> > <> <>>> Kevin WA7FWF
> > <> <>>>
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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2019 08:17:28 -0700
From: Kevin <wa7fwf@?????.???>
To: Chris Thompson <g0kla@????.???>
Cc: AMSAT <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] IC-9700 & FoxTelem 1.08p
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As always Thank You Chris for your time and expertise in quickly fixing
this.
73
Kevin WA7FWF
On 11/2/2019 05:26, Chris Thompson via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> For anyone following this thread, the code is now fixed. There were two
> issues that prevented good decodes from the IC-9700.
>
> 1/ The IF output of the IC-9700 is not a true IQ signal and you have both a
> lower and upper sideband image. One has the bits flipped upside down.
> Historically FoxTelem has coped with the bits with either sense, even
> though only one is "correct", so 1.07 decoded fine from the wrong image. I
> had introduced a bug that meant the "bit flip" check was not run. That
> code is back in.
>
> 2/ There was also an issue where the algorithm that finds the signal was
> not being run if SatPC32 position was being read. That was a common
> configuration for IC-9700 owners, so it compounded the problem.
>
> You can download the jar file and patch your installation from here:
> http://amsat.us/FoxTelem/test/FoxTelem.jar
>
> Or install the whole 1.08r release as normal from here:
> http://amsat.us/FoxTelem/windows/
> http://amsat.us/FoxTelem/linux/
> http://amsat.us/FoxTelem/mac/
>
> 73
> Chris
>
> On Thu, Oct 31, 2019 at 6:12 PM jeff griffin via AMSAT-BB <
> amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>
>> I just reinstalled 1.08p and can now decode the WAV file Left, or Right,
>> Raised Cosine, or Windowed Sync. Decoded 23 23 23 23 packets. Now what's
>> odd is I couldn't get the WAV file to decode until I deleted 108y, and then
>> reinstalled it. Win10 build 1903.
>>
>> tonight's passes will be interesting...
>>
>> 73 Jeff kb2m
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@?????.???? On Behalf Of Kevin via
>> AMSAT-BB
>> Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2019 2:17 PM
>> To: APBIDDLE@???????.???? 'AMSAT-BB'
>> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] IC-9700 & FoxTelem 1.08p
>>
>> Alan,
>> Just had 95, 91 and 92 go by and all 3 decoded and all 3 decoders
>> also worked although windowed sinc seems to be the best.
>> Whats interesting is 1.07Y will decode if you are on the left side or
>> the right side of the image but 1.08 only works if you are on the
>> "right" side,
>> I will leave that up to Chris to explain why that is.
>> I can go in and tweak the frequency settings to make foxtelem always
>> look on the right side.
>>
>> 73
>> Kevin wa7fwf
>>
>> On 10/31/2019 10:30, Alan wrote:
>>> Kevin,
>>>
>>> My shack computer runs WIN7 64 bit sp1. I installed a fresh copy of
>> 1.08p on my WIN10 64 bit computer, version 1903 build 18362.356. I made no
>> changed to the FoxTelem defaults except to put in my callsign and other
>> information to keep it happy.
>>> First I ran the file through Raised Cosine using the defaults. 25
>> frames. I deleted the log files, switched to Windows Sinc using my
>> standard 1440 length. 25 frames.
>>> No idea what I might be doing different. Usually I am the one who has
>> the odd problem.
>>> 73,
>>>
>>> Alan
>>> WA4SCA
>>>
>>>
>>> <-----Original Message-----
>>> <From: Kevin [mailto:wa7fwf@?????.????
>>> <Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2019 10:09 AM
>>> <To: APBIDDLE@???????.???? Alan <wa4sca@?????.???>; AMSAT-BB
>>> <<amsat-bb@?????.???>
>>> <Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] IC-9700 & FoxTelem 1.08p
>>> <
>>> <Alan,
>>> < Windows 10 pro Version 10.0.17763 Build 17763
>>> < Java jre1.8.0_221
>>> <
>>> < wonder what other variables might be a factor?
>>> <
>>> <73
>>> <Kevin wa7fwf
>>> <
>>> <
>>> <
>>> <On 10/31/2019 03:33, Alan via AMSAT-BB wrote:
>>> <> Kevin,
>>> <>
>>> <> I just played your recording through 1.08p. Recovered 25 frames,
>> which is
>>> <about what you expect. More evidence there is another variable
>> involved.
>>> <>
>>> <> 73,
>>> <>
>>> <> Alan
>>> <> WA4SCA
>>> <>
>>> <>
>>> <> <-----Original Message-----
>>> <> <From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@?????.???? On Behalf Of
>>> <Kevin
>>> <> <via AMSAT-BB
>>> <> <Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 22:45 PM
>>> <> <To: amsat-bb@?????.???
>>> <> <Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] IC-9700 & foxtelem 1.08p
>>> <> <
>>> <> <Chris,
>>> <> < The 9700 outputs a 12khz IF signal that is passed to the internal
>>> <> <codec and then out the USB port and windows treats it as a soundcard.
>>> <> < I used audacity to create about a 2min file and then read it in on
>>> <> <1.07y to verify it is good.
>>> <> < I uploaded it to dropbox and the link is
>>> <> < https://www.dropbox.com/s/eh5bya72y8gfskt/fox1.wav?dl=0
>>> <> <
>>> <> <it was recorded at 48000 and has been saved as a wav
>>> <> <
>>> <> <Thanks
>>> <> <Kevin wa7fwf
>>> <> <
>>> <> <On 10/30/2019 13:59, Chris Thompson via AMSAT-BB wrote:
>>> <> <> I have tried to reproduce this, but I do not have a 9700 so it is
>> hard. So
>>> <> <> far I can not work out what is wrong.
>>> <> <>
>>> <> <> Can someone describe the setup with the 9700? How is the audio
>> read
>>> <into
>>> <> <> the computer and sent to FoxTelem? Is FoxTelem reading it from a
>>> <sound
>>> <> <> card? Or what looks like a sound card?
>>> <> <>
>>> <> <> Can someone use Audacity and record some audio for me to test with?
>>> <Try
>>> <> <to
>>> <> <> record it at the sample rate you use in FoxTelem. e.g. if you set
>>> <FoxTelem
>>> <> <> to IQ and 48000 samples per second, then set Audacity to 48000 too.
>>> <> <>
>>> <> <> thanks
>>> <> <> Chris
>>> <> <>
>>> <> <> On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 1:23 PM jeff griffin via AMSAT-BB <
>>> <> <> amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>>> <> <>
>>> <> <>> I'm going to wait for the fix for the 9700. In the meantime
>> I'm now
>>> <> <>> collecting telemetry with my FIAB with a eggbeater antenna setup
>> that
>>> <I'm
>>> <> <>> going to leave up here for the winter. I'm seeing a much better
>> decode
>>> <> <rate
>>> <> <>> with 1.08p over 1.07y, about 2 to 1. So I'm seeing 1.08 is
>> clearly better
>>> <> <>> then 1.07. Thanks Chris!
>>> <> <>>
>>> <> <>> 73 Jeff kb2m
>>> <> <>>
>>> <> <>> -----Original Message-----
>>> <> <>> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@?????.???? On Behalf Of
>>> <> <Kevin via
>>> <> <>> AMSAT-BB
>>> <> <>> Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 12:54 PM
>>> <> <>> To: amsat-bb@?????.???
>>> <> <>> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] IC-9700 & foxtelem 1.08p
>>> <> <>>
>>> <> <>> Hi Alan and everyone else that replied,
>>> <> <>>
>>> <> <>> Windows Sinc also has zero decodes, tried all decoder modes.
>>> <> <>>
>>> <> <>> for now 1.07y FTW
>>> <> <>>
>>> <> <>> Thanks
>>> <> <>> Kevin
>>> <> <>>
>>> <> <>>
>>> <> <>> On 10/29/2019 23:20, Alan wrote:
>>> <> <>>> I you are using the Raised Cosine decoder, try the Windows Sinc
>>> <instead.
>>> <> <>>>
>>> <> <>>> 73,
>>> <> <>>>
>>> <> <>>> Alan
>>> <> <>>>
>>> <> <>>> WA4SCA
>>> <> <>>>
>>> <> <>>> *From: *Kevin via AMSAT-BB <mailto:amsat-bb@?????.???>
>>> <> <>>> *Sent: *Wednesday, October 30, 2019 12:21 AM
>>> <> <>>> *To: *amsat-bb@?????.??? <mailto:amsat-bb@?????.???>
>>> <> <>>> *Subject: *[amsat-bb] IC-9700 & foxtelem 1.08p
>>> <> <>>>
>>> <> <>>> Hi All,
>>> <> <>>>
>>> <> <>>> Any IC-9700 users out there that have switched to foxtelem
>> 1.08p
>>> <> <>>>
>>> <> <>>> using USB and IQ mode? I see a good eye but get zero decodes,
>>> <dropping
>>> <> <>>>
>>> <> <>>> back to 1.07y and it all starts working again.
>>> <> <>>>
>>> <> <>>> 73
>>> <> <>>>
>>> <> <>>> Kevin WA7FWF
>>> <> <>>>
>>> <> <>>> _______________________________________________
>>> <> <>>>
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