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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Preamp source (Frank Karnauskas)
2. Re: Preamp source (W3AB/GEO)
3. Re: Preamp source (W3AB/GEO)
4. Re: SATPC32 >12 sats (John Kludt)
5. Re: Preamp source (Jim White)
6. Re: Preamp source (Glenn Miller - AA5PK)
7. Re: Preamp source (Jim White)
8. Re: Preamp source (Leffke, Zachary)
9. Re: Preamp source (Jim White)
10. Re: Preamp source (Zach Metzinger)
11. Re: ARR preamps (Roger - W7TZ)
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2019 14:48:00 -0700
From: "Frank Karnauskas" <n1uw@???????.???>
To: <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Preamp source
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Has anyone used a Mirage product since they became part of MFJ? If
so, with what results?
P.S. I talked to Jay at ARR just yesterday and he says they will not
be making any mast mounted preamps. I didn't ask about other models.
73,
Frank
FRANK KARNAUSKAS, N1UW
3670 E. KINGLER SPRING PL.
TUCSON, AZ 85718
T: 612-644-9174
E: N1UW@???????.???
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n4csitwo--- via AMSAT-BB
Sent: Thursday, November 7, 2019 2:09 PM
To: Jim White; AMSAT-BB
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Preamp source
I find myself in the same boat! I've always depended on ARR for
preamps, but
they told me material cost to build the units will run the price up
too
much, so they decided to stop making the 2 M preamp I need.
Here is one you might want to look into Jim. I've only used Mirage for
their
pw amps in the past, but have been fairly satisfied with their product
and
repair service.
https://www.mirageamp.com/Product.php?productid=KP-2/2M
Dave, AA4KN
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From: "Jim White via AMSAT-BB" <amsat-bb@?????.???>
To: "AMSAT-BB" <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2019 4:02 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Preamp source
> My 22 year old Landwehr VHF preamp finally gave it up.
>
> I'd appreciate leads on high quality mast mounted preamps for VHF.
AR2
> doesn't answer their phone and some uni's I work with say it takes
days to
> get a call back then AR2 didn't have the one they wanted and said
they
> would not be making any more. And SSB USA's recording says they are
only
> available sporadically. Looks like I can order direct from SSB in
Germany
> so that's an option.
>
> Are there any low noise RF switched manufacturers/vendors in the
U.S.
> these days? Where are folks getting preamps these days?
>
> Jim
>
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2019 13:56:39 -0800
From: W3AB/GEO <w3ab@?????.???>
To: Jim White <jim@?????????????????.???>
Cc: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Preamp source
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I've had good luck with these.
https://www.minikits.com.au/eme220-2m
?___
Sent from my two way wrist watch
73 de W3AB/GEO?
On Nov 7, 2019, 13:05, at 13:05, Jim White via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
wrote:
>My 22 year old Landwehr VHF preamp finally gave it up.
>
>I'd appreciate leads on high quality mast mounted preamps for VHF.? AR2
>
>doesn't answer their phone and some uni's I work with say it takes days
>
>to get a call back then AR2 didn't have the one they wanted and said
>they would not be making any more.? And SSB USA's recording says they
>are only available sporadically.? Looks like I can order direct from
>SSB
>in Germany so that's an option.
>
>Are there any low noise RF switched manufacturers/vendors in the U.S.
>these days? Where are folks getting preamps these days?
>
>Jim
>
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2019 13:56:39 -0800
From: W3AB/GEO <w3ab@?????.???>
To: Jim White <jim@?????????????????.???>
Cc: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Preamp source
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I've had good luck with these.
https://www.minikits.com.au/eme220-2m
?___
Sent from my two way wrist watch
73 de W3AB/GEO?
On Nov 7, 2019, 13:05, at 13:05, Jim White via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
wrote:
>My 22 year old Landwehr VHF preamp finally gave it up.
>
>I'd appreciate leads on high quality mast mounted preamps for VHF.? AR2
>
>doesn't answer their phone and some uni's I work with say it takes days
>
>to get a call back then AR2 didn't have the one they wanted and said
>they would not be making any more.? And SSB USA's recording says they
>are only available sporadically.? Looks like I can order direct from
>SSB
>in Germany so that's an option.
>
>Are there any low noise RF switched manufacturers/vendors in the U.S.
>these days? Where are folks getting preamps these days?
>
>Jim
>
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2019 17:03:20 -0500
From: John Kludt <johnnykludt@?????.???>
To: aj9n <aj9n@???.???>
Cc: AMSAT <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] SATPC32 >12 sats
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Charlie,
I have not done an exhaustive compare and I know the IC-9700 got added.
John
On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 4:33 PM aj9n <aj9n@???.???> wrote:
> I think a radio got added but I am not sure about that. Glad you are up
> and running.
> 73,
> Charlie AJ9N
>
>
>
> Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy S8.
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: "Keith E. Brandt, WD9GET" <wd9get@?????.???>
> Date: 11/7/19 4:09 PM (GMT-05:00)
> To: aj9n <aj9n@???.???>, John Kludt <johnnykludt@?????.???>
> Cc: AMSAT <amsat-bb@?????.???>
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] SATPC32 >12 sats
>
> On 07-Nov-19 14:09, aj9n wrote:
>
> There is a newer version of 12.8d that is available. I don't why the
> version number wasn't changed. The newer one goes beyond A to L.
>
> 73,
> Charlie AJ9N
>
>
> That did the trick. Seems weird that the version number didn't increment
> with the new feature release.
>
> Anything else fun that was updated at the same time as increasing the
> number of sats?
>
> --
> Keith E Brandt, WD9GET
>
> *This message transmitted with 100% recycled DHMO-free electrons
>
> xb
>
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2019 15:09:46 -0700
From: Jim White <jim@?????????????????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Preamp source
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Thanks for the update on ARR. That's a shame.? I've been using them for
years in many different locations and they work great.? I have two UHF
in use here now.? I also have an SSB in my VHF EME array and it's great
as well.
Jim
On 11/7/2019 2:48 PM, Frank Karnauskas via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> Has anyone used a Mirage product since they became part of MFJ? If
> so, with what results?
>
> P.S. I talked to Jay at ARR just yesterday and he says they will not
> be making any mast mounted preamps. I didn't ask about other models.
>
> 73,
> Frank
>
> FRANK KARNAUSKAS, N1UW
> 3670 E. KINGLER SPRING PL.
> TUCSON, AZ 85718
> T: 612-644-9174
> E: N1UW@???????.???
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@?????.???? On Behalf Of
> n4csitwo--- via AMSAT-BB
> Sent: Thursday, November 7, 2019 2:09 PM
> To: Jim White; AMSAT-BB
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Preamp source
>
> I find myself in the same boat! I've always depended on ARR for
> preamps, but
> they told me material cost to build the units will run the price up
> too
> much, so they decided to stop making the 2 M preamp I need.
> Here is one you might want to look into Jim. I've only used Mirage for
> their
> pw amps in the past, but have been fairly satisfied with their product
> and
> repair service.
> https://www.mirageamp.com/Product.php?productid=KP-2/2M
>
> Dave, AA4KN
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jim White via AMSAT-BB" <amsat-bb@?????.???>
> To: "AMSAT-BB" <amsat-bb@?????.???>
> Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2019 4:02 PM
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Preamp source
>
>
>> My 22 year old Landwehr VHF preamp finally gave it up.
>>
>> I'd appreciate leads on high quality mast mounted preamps for VHF.
> AR2
>> doesn't answer their phone and some uni's I work with say it takes
> days to
>> get a call back then AR2 didn't have the one they wanted and said
> they
>> would not be making any more. And SSB USA's recording says they are
> only
>> available sporadically. Looks like I can order direct from SSB in
> Germany
>> so that's an option.
>>
>> Are there any low noise RF switched manufacturers/vendors in the
> U.S.
>> these days? Where are folks getting preamps these days?
>>
>> Jim
>>
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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2019 16:13:00 -0600
From: "Glenn Miller - AA5PK" <aa5pk@??????????.???>
To: <N1UW@???????.???>, <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Preamp source
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I recently received a 70 cm mast mount preamp from ARR. It took nearly 2
months to fulfill the order, however.
Glenn
AA5PK
-----Original Message-----
From: Frank Karnauskas via AMSAT-BB
Sent: Thursday, November 7, 2019 3:48 PM
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Preamp source
Has anyone used a Mirage product since they became part of MFJ? If
so, with what results?
P.S. I talked to Jay at ARR just yesterday and he says they will not
be making any mast mounted preamps. I didn't ask about other models.
73,
Frank
FRANK KARNAUSKAS, N1UW
3670 E. KINGLER SPRING PL.
TUCSON, AZ 85718
T: 612-644-9174
E: N1UW@???????.???
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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2019 15:26:26 -0700
From: Jim White <jim@?????????????????.???>
To: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Preamp source
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Turns out HRO has some SSB units in stock including the SP-200 I
wanted.? So I've ordered one there.
I hope HRO continues to stock the SSB units.
The Minikets a couple folks suggested looks like a great option as well,
especially if I was going to expand the EME array and put a preamp at
the feed of each antenna.
Thanks for all the suggestions.
Jim
On 11/7/2019 2:26 PM, Kevin wrote:
> FWIW Jim,
> ? SSB directly from Germany has worked well for me, typically cheaper
> than getting it here in the US and their shipping is quick.
> I have a bunch of SSB preamps and they have all worked well and seem
> to hold up well also.
>
> Only negative I can say about them is they like to use a pair of back
> to back diodes across the input, great for front end protection but
> when exposed to high levels of RF? like say from a HF rig they can
> rectify the signal creating wideband noise.
>
> 73
> Kevin
>
>
> On 11/7/2019 13:02, Jim White via AMSAT-BB wrote:
>> My 22 year old Landwehr VHF preamp finally gave it up.
>>
>> I'd appreciate leads on high quality mast mounted preamps for VHF.?
>> AR2 doesn't answer their phone and some uni's I work with say it
>> takes days to get a call back then AR2 didn't have the one they
>> wanted and said they would not be making any more.? And SSB USA's
>> recording says they are only available sporadically. Looks like I can
>> order direct from SSB in Germany so that's an option.
>>
>> Are there any low noise RF switched manufacturers/vendors in the U.S.
>> these days? Where are folks getting preamps these days?
>>
>> Jim
>>
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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2019 22:27:23 +0000
From: "Leffke, Zachary" <zleffke@??.???>
To: "amsat-bb@?????.???? <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Preamp source
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Wow, this is big news concerning ARR and no more mast mounted preamps.....We
rely on them heavily for VT ground station systems for ham bands and for a
few other bands (our original preamps were also Landwehr).
Thanks Jim for bringing this up, and thanks to all for posting alternative
options. I?ll have to start keeping my eyes open for backups and
alternatives.
M2 Antennas also has a VHF preamp with similar specs/price to the ARR VHF
preamp?..though they only offer the VHF option. https://www.m2inc.com/FG2MPA
-Zach, KJ4QLP
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Sent: Thursday, November 7, 2019 4:57 PM
To: Jim White <jim@?????????????????.???>
Cc: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Preamp source
I've had good luck with these.
https://www.minikits.com.au/eme220-2m
?___
Sent from my two way wrist watch
73 de W3AB/GEO?
On Nov 7, 2019, 13:05, at 13:05, Jim White via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
wrote:
>My 22 year old Landwehr VHF preamp finally gave it up.
>
>I'd appreciate leads on high quality mast mounted preamps for VHF. AR2
>
>doesn't answer their phone and some uni's I work with say it takes days
>
>to get a call back then AR2 didn't have the one they wanted and said
>they would not be making any more. And SSB USA's recording says they
>are only available sporadically. Looks like I can order direct from
>SSB
>in Germany so that's an option.
>
>Are there any low noise RF switched manufacturers/vendors in the U.S.
>these days? Where are folks getting preamps these days?
>
>Jim
>
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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2019 15:31:56 -0700
From: Jim White <jim@?????????????????.???>
To: n4csitwo@?????????.???? AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Preamp source
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Dave,
I tried Mirage way back when and found the NF not so good.? In about
91ish when I was the command? station for AO-16 and DO-17 I remember
changing out a Mirage for an ARR and it made a measurable difference on
UHF.? I see on their current datasheet it's still not as good as SSB and
ARR (and probably others).
Having said that it's probably fine for most uses and $100 less than the
SSB I just ordered.
On 11/7/2019 2:09 PM, n4csitwo@?????????.??? wrote:
> I find myself in the same boat! I've always depended on ARR for
> preamps, but they told me material cost to build the units will run
> the price up too much, so they decided to stop making the 2 M preamp I
> need.
> Here is one you might want to look into Jim. I've only used Mirage for
> their pw amps in the past, but have been fairly satisfied with their
> product and repair service.
> https://www.mirageamp.com/Product.php?productid=KP-2/2M
>
> Dave, AA4KN
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim White via AMSAT-BB"
> <amsat-bb@?????.???>
> To: "AMSAT-BB" <amsat-bb@?????.???>
> Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2019 4:02 PM
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Preamp source
>
>
>> My 22 year old Landwehr VHF preamp finally gave it up.
>>
>> I'd appreciate leads on high quality mast mounted preamps for VHF.
>> AR2 doesn't answer their phone and some uni's I work with say it
>> takes days to get a call back then AR2 didn't have the one they
>> wanted and said they would not be making any more. And SSB USA's
>> recording says they are only available sporadically. Looks like I can
>> order direct from SSB in Germany so that's an option.
>>
>> Are there any low noise RF switched manufacturers/vendors in the U.S.
>> these days? Where are folks getting preamps these days?
>>
>> Jim
>>
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Message: 10
Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2019 16:41:43 -0600
From: Zach Metzinger <zmetzing@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Preamp source
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On 2019-11-07 15:56, W3AB/GEO via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> I've had good luck with these.
>
> https://www.minikits.com.au/eme220-2m
Nice to see the OMRON relays being used for RF.
W6PQL, who is amazingly creative and takes time to document his
adventures, has some data on these relays at RF:
https://www.w6pql.com/using_inexpensive_relays.htm
--- Zach
N0ZGO
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Message: 11
Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2019 14:57:16 -0800
From: Roger - W7TZ <ai7rogerroger@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] ARR preamps
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I must apologize. I failed to identify my preamps correctly.
I have the ARR SP144vdg and SP432vdg.
These are available for $250 for the pair shipped conus.
73, Roger
W7TZ
CN83ia
Grid Busters
w7tz.webs.com
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