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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Eggbeaters--Extending Distance From Radials (SCOTT MCDONALD)
   2. Re: Eggbeaters--Extending Distance From Radials (SCOTT MCDONALD)
   3. AO-92 in L/v at 0233UTC (Andrew Glasbrenner)
   4. Kenwood TS-2000 built in TNC??? (RG)
   5. Upcoming ARISS contact with Istituto San Paolo delle Suore
      Angeliche, Milano, Italy and Istituto Comprensivo Di Merone -
      Mons. A. Pirovano, Merone, Italy (n4csitwo@?????????.????
   6. Re: Kenwood TS-2000 built in TNC??? (bernd1peters@?????.????
   7. Re: Kenwood TS-2000 built in TNC??? (Jeff Moore)
   8. Re: Kenwood TS-2000 built in TNC??? (Jeff Yanko)
   9. ANS-324 AMSAT News Service Special Bulletin - AMSAT Auction
      Celebrating the 45th Birthday of AO-7 Now Live (Paul Stoetzer)
  10. Re: Eggbeaters--Extending Distance From Radials (KD2NFC, Joe Puma)


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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2019 20:37:58 -0600
From: SCOTT MCDONALD <ka9p@???.???>
To: Jeff Moore <tnetcenter@?????.???>
Cc: Amsat BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Eggbeaters--Extending Distance From Radials
Message-ID: <72A417B6-8BC8-4DE3-B452-E8C12B04F7C1@???.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

Wes-  I?m inclined to agree with Jeff because I did that modification.

The easiest way to lower the ground plane is to remove the bolt that holds
the radial plate to the antenna base and insert a piece of threaded rod of
the correct length.  I just threaded a piece of solid aluminum rod on the
ends and it worked well.  I can send you a pic if you want to see it.

Because I had 2 used EB432 I was able to do a head to head comparison and
there is a noticeable improvement.  But it is not as good as a small CP
beam.  If you have to run omnis I think the mod is worth it.

Good luck.

Scott ka9p

Make something good happen!

> On Nov 19, 2019, at 6:52 PM, Jeff Moore via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
wrote:
>
> ?Look up Texas Potato Mashers - I think that is what you are looking for.
> They supposedly work a lot better than Egg Beaters but even then, they are
> likely a poor substitute for a small beam.
>
> Jeff Moore  --  KE7ACY
> CN94
>
>> On Tue, Nov 19, 2019 at 10:56 AM Wes Baden via AMSAT-BB
<amsat-bb@?????.???>
>> wrote:
>>
>> New AMSAT member here, hoping to get on the air in the new future.  I'm
>> looking at the M2 Eggbeaters and I have a question that perhaps someone has
>> thought about already or better yet done some modeling for.  Specifically,
>> has anyone replaced the 6 inch standoff mast on the EB-144 with something
>> longer, and if so, how long, thus increasing the distance between the
>> element loops and radials?  (Also, would this even be possible on the
>> EB-432 as it looks like there is no standoff mast and instead the body
>> assembly attaches directly to the radial plate?)  My thinking, perhaps
>> faulty, is that extending the distance between the element loops and
>> radials on both models would have the desired effect of flattening out the
>> elevation pattern.  That is, there would be less gain overhead (where
>> satellites appear less frequently and high gain really isn't needed) but on
>> the other hand gain would be increased in the 15-45 degree range.  Has
>> anyone modified the Eggbeaters in this way?  Alternatively, has anyone
>> modeled Eggbeaters with longer standoff masts?  Is there an optimal
>> distance for standoff masts for both models, for using satellites that are
>> on the air at the present time?  Thanks!  Wes NA1ME.
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
>> expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>> AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb



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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2019 20:37:58 -0600
From: SCOTT MCDONALD <ka9p@???.???>
To: Jeff Moore <tnetcenter@?????.???>
Cc: Amsat BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Eggbeaters--Extending Distance From Radials
Message-ID: <72A417B6-8BC8-4DE3-B452-E8C12B04F7C1@???.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

Wes-  I?m inclined to agree with Jeff because I did that modification.

The easiest way to lower the ground plane is to remove the bolt that holds
the radial plate to the antenna base and insert a piece of threaded rod of
the correct length.  I just threaded a piece of solid aluminum rod on the
ends and it worked well.  I can send you a pic if you want to see it.

Because I had 2 used EB432 I was able to do a head to head comparison and
there is a noticeable improvement.  But it is not as good as a small CP
beam.  If you have to run omnis I think the mod is worth it.

Good luck.

Scott ka9p

Make something good happen!

> On Nov 19, 2019, at 6:52 PM, Jeff Moore via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
wrote:
>
> ?Look up Texas Potato Mashers - I think that is what you are looking for.
> They supposedly work a lot better than Egg Beaters but even then, they are
> likely a poor substitute for a small beam.
>
> Jeff Moore  --  KE7ACY
> CN94
>
>> On Tue, Nov 19, 2019 at 10:56 AM Wes Baden via AMSAT-BB
<amsat-bb@?????.???>
>> wrote:
>>
>> New AMSAT member here, hoping to get on the air in the new future.  I'm
>> looking at the M2 Eggbeaters and I have a question that perhaps someone has
>> thought about already or better yet done some modeling for.  Specifically,
>> has anyone replaced the 6 inch standoff mast on the EB-144 with something
>> longer, and if so, how long, thus increasing the distance between the
>> element loops and radials?  (Also, would this even be possible on the
>> EB-432 as it looks like there is no standoff mast and instead the body
>> assembly attaches directly to the radial plate?)  My thinking, perhaps
>> faulty, is that extending the distance between the element loops and
>> radials on both models would have the desired effect of flattening out the
>> elevation pattern.  That is, there would be less gain overhead (where
>> satellites appear less frequently and high gain really isn't needed) but on
>> the other hand gain would be increased in the 15-45 degree range.  Has
>> anyone modified the Eggbeaters in this way?  Alternatively, has anyone
>> modeled Eggbeaters with longer standoff masts?  Is there an optimal
>> distance for standoff masts for both models, for using satellites that are
>> on the air at the present time?  Thanks!  Wes NA1ME.
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
>> expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>> AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb



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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2019 22:23:01 -0500
From: "Andrew Glasbrenner" <glasbrenner@??????????.???>
To: <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-92 in L/v at 0233UTC
Message-ID: <005e01d59f51$d11fb0a0$735f11e0$@??????????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

AO-92 is in L/v at 0233UTC, for 24 hours.



73, Drew KO4MA

AMSAT VP Operations





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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2019 03:23:29 +0000 (UTC)
From: RG <marzo7088@?????.???>
To: "amsat-bb@?????.???? <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Kenwood TS-2000 built in TNC???
Message-ID: <439265449.1782770.1574220209388@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Hello,Just purchased a Kenwood TS2000.Can anyone tell me if the built TNC
can handle digital modes like Amtor and FT-8?I read in the Manuel that it is
limited on packet operation.This what the Manuel says:
This transceiver has a built-in TNC which allows you to use basic (not full)
packet applications.It also says this:Since the built-in TNC has been
designed to work with the Packet Cluster Tune {page 53} and Sky Commander
II+ {page 83} functions, some of the enhanced TNC commands may not be
available.?Anyway I have a Rigblaster so not s problem but if the built in
TNC can handle it,would make it easier.I use FT-8,RTTY and Echolink and will
use SATPC32Thanks in advance.

marzo7088@?????.???

------------------------------

Message: 5
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2019 01:02:15 -0500
From: <n4csitwo@?????????.???>
To: <amsat-bb@?????.???>,	<ariss-press@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS contact with Istituto San Paolo
delle Suore Angeliche, Milano, Italy and Istituto Comprensivo Di
Merone - Mons. A. Pirovano, Merone, Italy
Message-ID: <9A7B7F7559704A0082CC04C0BAD213D0@???>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"







An International Space Station school contact has been planned with
participants at Istituto San Paolo delle Suore Angeliche, Milano, Italy and
Istituto Comprensivo Di Merone - Mons. A. Pirovano, Merone, Italy on 21 Nov.
The event is scheduled to begin at approximately 09:12 UTC. It is
recommended that you start listening approximately 10 minutes before this
time. The duration of the contact is approximately 9 minutes and 30 seconds.
The contact will be a telebridge between NA1SS and W6SRJ. The contact should
be audible over the west coast of the U.S. and adjacent areas. Interested
parties are invited to listen in on the 145.80 MHz downlink. The contact is
expected to be conducted in Italian.Watch for live streaming at:

Istituto San Paolo delle Suore Angeliche Milano:
http://www.arierba.it/ariss_live/

Istituto Comprensivo Di Merone: http://www.arierba.it/ariss_live_2/





Stories:



Istituto San Paolo delle Suore Angeliche

Private school in Milano city, our students are children from 1 to 13 years
(nursery, kinder garden, primary, secondary 1st level).



Istituto Comprensivo Di Merone - Mons. A. Pirovano

The School is an Istituto Comprensivo, it means that includes 3 school
levels: primary, elementary and junior school (Scuole Medie). It is located
between three municipalities: Merone, Lambrugo and Monguzzo, but the
logistic offices are in Merone. Merone is a small town between Como and
Lecco, north of Italy.

The junior school is composed by different kind of school hours from 30
hours, base level, to 38 hours, that are managed with some laboratories, in
particular three scientific ones.





Participants will ask as many of the following questions as time allows:



1. Come interagisci con CIMON? Capisce se sei triste o felice e ti

   parla?

2. Quali sono gli strumenti che utilizzi di pi? nel tuo lavoro?

3. Cosa fate voi astronauti durante le manovre di reboost?

4. Chi o che cosa pu? trarre vantaggi dalle missioni dell'uomo nello

   spazio?

5. E' mai stata osservata la metamorfosi di un insetto sulla ISS? Ci

   sono differenze con quanto accade sulla terra?

6. Com'? cambiata la tua vita, anche in senso pratico, dopo essere

   stato nello spazio?

7. Che risultati stanno dando le coltivazioni sull ISS? Si riesce a

   ricavare del cibo?

8. Si vede lo scioglimento dei ghiacciai dalla ISS? Come sta il pianeta

   Terra secondo te?

9. In cosa consistono le responsabilit? e gli incarichi di comandante?

10. Avete mai visto un buco nero?

11. In quante lingue diverse comunicate tra di voi e con i controlli di

    terra?

12. Quale ? il periodo di tempo pi? lungo trascorso da un astronauta

    nello spazio?

13. Nello spazio si ha una percezione diversa del tempo?

14. Paradosso di Enrico Fermi o equazione di FranK Drake: cosa ne

    pensa?

15. La ISS inquina nello spazio?

16. Tra poco dovremo fare l'importante scelta della scuola superiore.

    Come hai fatto tu a scegliere?

17. In base alla tua esperienza, ? pi? difficile adattarsi alla

    microgravit? oppure riabituarsi alla gravit? terrestre al rientro?

18. Se potessi tornare indietro nel tempo, rifaresti tutto ci? che hai

    fatto finora?

19. Nei momenti liberi vi divertite con la microgravit??

20. Che sensazione prova a "vivere in due mondi", uno con la gravit? e

    uno senza?

21. Per quanto riguarda le sensazioni, il sonno nello spazio ? diverso?

22. Cosa ne pensi della possibilit? di costruire una base operativa

    sulla Luna?

23. Se fossimo pronti ad inviare un equipaggio su Marte, tu vorresti

    farne parte?

24. Ci racconti che emozioni provi osservando la Terra dalla ISS?



1. How do you interact with CIMON? Does it understand if you are sad or

   happy and it speaks to you?

2. What are the tools you use the most in your daily work?

3. What do you astronauts do during reboost maneuvers?

4. Who or what can benefit from man's missions in space?

5. Has the metamorphosis of an insect on the ISS ever been observed?

   Are there differences with what happens on earth?

6. How has your life changed, even in a practical sense, after being in

   space?

7. Which are the results of growing plants on the ISS? Is it possible

   to get food?

8. Do you see glaciers melting from the ISS? Which do you think it is
   the planet's healthy status?

9. What are the responsibilities and duties of the commander?

10. Have you ever seen a black hole?

11. In how many different languages do you communicate with each other

    and with the ground controllers?

12. Which is the longest time spent by an astronaut in space?

13. Does space have a different perception of time?

14. Enrico Fermi's paradox or Frank Drake's equation: what do you

    think?

15. Is the ISS polluting outer space?

16. We will soon have to make the important choice of high school. How

    did you choose yours?

17. Based on your experience, is it more difficult to adapt to

    microgravity or get used to terrestrial gravity on re-entry?

18. If you could go back in time, would you do everything you've done

    so far?

19. In your free moments do you enjoy microgravity?

20. What is the feeling of "living in two worlds", one with gravity and

    one without?

21. As for sensations, is sleeping in space different?

22. What do you think about the possibility of building a Lunar

    outpost?

23. If we were ready to send a crew to Mars, would you like to be part

    of it?

24. Can you tell us about your emotions when you observe the Earth from

    the ISS?







PLEASE CHECK THE FOLLOWING FOR MORE INFORMATION ON ARISS UPDATES:



      Visit ARISS on Facebook. We can be found at Amateur Radio on the
International Space Station (ARISS).



      To receive our Twitter updates, follow @????????????







Next planned event(s):



   1.   MAOU Lyceum No. 39, Nizhny Tagil, Russia, direct via TBD

         The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be RS?ISS

         The scheduled astronaut is Alexander Skvortsov

         Contact is go for 2011-11-30 14:15 UTC







About ARISS



Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS) is a cooperative
venture of international amateur radio societies and the space agencies that
support the International Space Station (ISS).  In the United States,
sponsors are the Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT), the American
Radio Relay League (ARRL), the ISS National Lab and National Aeronautics and
Space Administration (NASA). The primary goal of ARISS is to promote
exploration of science, technology, engineering, and mathematics (STEM)
topics by organizing scheduled contacts via amateur radio between crew
members aboard the ISS and students in classrooms or public forms. Before
and during these radio contacts, students, educators, parents, and
communities learn about space, space technologies, and amateur radio. For
more information, see www.ariss.org.



Thank you & 73,

David - AA4KN






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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2019 23:21:24 -0800
From: <bernd1peters@?????.???>
To: "'RG'" <marzo7088@?????.???>,	<AMSAT-BB@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Kenwood TS-2000 built in TNC???
Message-ID: <099601d59f73$1dea7de0$59bf79a0$@?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="utf-8"

The TNC cannot run FT8 or RTTY, those modes are sound modes and have nothing
to do with packet radio (you need WSJT-X or MMTTY for those). You can do
Amtor and you can connect directly to Winlink or some of the raw packet
programs.

73,
Bernd - KB7AK

-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb-bounces@?????.???> On Behalf Of RG via AMSAT-BB
Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2019 7:23 PM
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] Kenwood TS-2000 built in TNC???

Hello,Just purchased a Kenwood TS2000.Can anyone tell me if the built TNC
can handle digital modes like Amtor and FT-8?I read in the Manuel that it is
limited on packet operation.This what the Manuel says:
This transceiver has a built-in TNC which allows you to use basic (not full)
packet applications.It also says this:Since the built-in TNC has been
designed to work with the Packet Cluster Tune {page 53} and Sky Commander
II+ {page 83} functions, some of the enhanced TNC commands may not be
available. Anyway I have a Rigblaster so not s problem but if the built in
TNC can handle it,would make it easier.I use FT-8,RTTY and Echolink and will
use SATPC32Thanks in advance.

marzo7088@?????.???
_______________________________________________
Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all
interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official
views of AMSAT-NA.
Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb



------------------------------

Message: 7
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2019 00:03:59 -0800
From: Jeff Moore <tnetcenter@?????.???>
To: Amsat BB <AMSAT-BB@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Kenwood TS-2000 built in TNC???
Message-ID:
<CALx_moTfnM+c2JWDdxDrgng7ZaBp7-8cD9c7aPihojJT-f6PjQ@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

I believe that RTTY is built into the TS-2000, I could be wrong.

Jeff Moore  --  KE7ACY


On Tue, Nov 19, 2019 at 11:23 PM Bernd Peters via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:

> The TNC cannot run FT8 or RTTY, those modes are sound modes and have
> nothing to do with packet radio (you need WSJT-X or MMTTY for those). You
> can do Amtor and you can connect directly to Winlink or some of the raw
> packet programs.
>
> 73,
> Bernd - KB7AK
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb-bounces@?????.???> On Behalf Of RG via AMSAT-BB
> Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2019 7:23 PM
> To: amsat-bb@?????.???
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Kenwood TS-2000 built in TNC???
>
> Hello,Just purchased a Kenwood TS2000.Can anyone tell me if the built TNC
> can handle digital modes like Amtor and FT-8?I read in the Manuel that it
> is limited on packet operation.This what the Manuel says:
> This transceiver has a built-in TNC which allows you to use basic (not
> full) packet applications.It also says this:Since the built-in TNC has been
> designed to work with the Packet Cluster Tune {page 53} and Sky Commander
> II+ {page 83} functions, some of the enhanced TNC commands may not be
> available. Anyway I have a Rigblaster so not s problem but if the built in
> TNC can handle it,would make it easier.I use FT-8,RTTY and Echolink and
> will use SATPC32Thanks in advance.
>
> marzo7088@?????.???
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to
> all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official
> views of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>


------------------------------

Message: 8
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2019 00:46:07 -0800
From: Jeff Yanko <wb3jfs@???.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Kenwood TS-2000 built in TNC???
Message-ID: <554c934f-9240-82d8-7cd4-b8360a23b2f0@???.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed

The TS-2000 can transmit FSK (RTTY) with outside keying, like the W3YY
FSK/CW Interface or the Timewave Navigator.


73,

Jeff WB3JFS



On 11/20/2019 12:03 AM, Jeff Moore via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> I believe that RTTY is built into the TS-2000, I could be wrong.
>
> Jeff Moore  --  KE7ACY
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 19, 2019 at 11:23 PM Bernd Peters via AMSAT-BB <
> amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>
>> The TNC cannot run FT8 or RTTY, those modes are sound modes and have
>> nothing to do with packet radio (you need WSJT-X or MMTTY for those). You
>> can do Amtor and you can connect directly to Winlink or some of the raw
>> packet programs.
>>
>> 73,
>> Bernd - KB7AK
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb-bounces@?????.???> On Behalf Of RG via AMSAT-BB
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2019 7:23 PM
>> To: amsat-bb@?????.???
>> Subject: [amsat-bb] Kenwood TS-2000 built in TNC???
>>
>> Hello,Just purchased a Kenwood TS2000.Can anyone tell me if the built TNC
>> can handle digital modes like Amtor and FT-8?I read in the Manuel that it
>> is limited on packet operation.This what the Manuel says:
>> This transceiver has a built-in TNC which allows you to use basic (not
>> full) packet applications.It also says this:Since the built-in TNC has been
>> designed to work with the Packet Cluster Tune {page 53} and Sky Commander
>> II+ {page 83} functions, some of the enhanced TNC commands may not be
>> available. Anyway I have a Rigblaster so not s problem but if the built in
>> TNC can handle it,would make it easier.I use FT-8,RTTY and Echolink and
>> will use SATPC32Thanks in advance.
>>
>> marzo7088@?????.???
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to
>> all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
>> expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official
>> views of AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
>> expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>> AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>


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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2019 08:46:25 -0500
From: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@????.???>
To: ans@?????.???? AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] ANS-324 AMSAT News Service Special Bulletin -
AMSAT Auction Celebrating the 45th Birthday of AO-7 Now Live
Message-ID:
<CABzOSOrsUJqhX+uQEYTgxe99WmcLUr-3ttZWATJG-37bwNqWAA@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

AMSAT NEWS SERVICE SPECIAL BULLETIN
ANS-324

In this edition:

* AMSAT Auction Celebrating the 45th Birthday of AO-7 Now Live

SB SAT @ AMSAT $ANS-324
ANS-324 AMSAT News Service Special Bulletin

AMSAT News Service Bulletin 324
 From AMSAT HQ KENSINGTON, MD.
DATE November 20, 2019
To All RADIO AMATEURS
BID: $ANS-324.01

AMSAT Auction Celebrating the 45th Birthday of AO-7 Now Live

As announced in ANS-321, AMSAT is auctioning off a set of gold-plated
AO-7 cufflinks and a 50th Anniversary AMSAT lab coat (size 42R). The
auctions are now live on eBay and will conclude shortly after 02:00
UTC on November 26, 2019.

Please bid today at https://www.ebay.com/usr/amsat-na

100% of the proceeds of this auction will go towards Keeping Amateur
Radio in Space.

[ANS thanks Paul Stoetzer, N8HM, for the above information]



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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2019 10:49:05 -0500
From: "KD2NFC, Joe Puma" <kd2nfc@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Eggbeaters--Extending Distance From Radials
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?I have this available if anyone?s interested.  One radial got damaged on
the 70cm but I?m trying to replace/ remake the part.

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Joe
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> On Nov 19, 2019, at 9:49 PM, SCOTT MCDONALD via AMSAT-BB
<amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>
> ?Wes-  I?m inclined to agree with Jeff because I did that modification.
>
> The easiest way to lower the ground plane is to remove the bolt that holds
the radial plate to the antenna base and insert a piece of threaded rod of
the correct length.  I just threaded a piece of solid aluminum rod on the
ends and it worked well.  I can send you a pic if you want to see it.
>
> Because I had 2 used EB432 I was able to do a head to head comparison and
there is a noticeable improvement.  But it is not as good as a small CP
beam.  If you have to run omnis I think the mod is worth it.
>
> Good luck.
>
> Scott ka9p
>
> Make something good happen!
>
>>> On Nov 19, 2019, at 6:52 PM, Jeff Moore via AMSAT-BB
<amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>> ?Look up Texas Potato Mashers - I think that is what you are looking for.
>> They supposedly work a lot better than Egg Beaters but even then, they are
>> likely a poor substitute for a small beam.
>> Jeff Moore  --  KE7ACY
>> CN94
>>> On Tue, Nov 19, 2019 at 10:56 AM Wes Baden via AMSAT-BB
<amsat-bb@?????.???>
>>> wrote:
>>> New AMSAT member here, hoping to get on the air in the new future.  I'm
>>> looking at the M2 Eggbeaters and I have a question that perhaps someone
has
>>> thought about already or better yet done some modeling for.  Specifically,
>>> has anyone replaced the 6 inch standoff mast on the EB-144 with something
>>> longer, and if so, how long, thus increasing the distance between the
>>> element loops and radials?  (Also, would this even be possible on the
>>> EB-432 as it looks like there is no standoff mast and instead the body
>>> assembly attaches directly to the radial plate?)  My thinking, perhaps
>>> faulty, is that extending the distance between the element loops and
>>> radials on both models would have the desired effect of flattening out the
>>> elevation pattern.  That is, there would be less gain overhead (where
>>> satellites appear less frequently and high gain really isn't needed) but
on
>>> the other hand gain would be increased in the 15-45 degree range.  Has
>>> anyone modified the Eggbeaters in this way?  Alternatively, has anyone
>>> modeled Eggbeaters with longer standoff masts?  Is there an optimal
>>> distance for standoff masts for both models, for using satellites that are
>>> on the air at the present time?  Thanks!  Wes NA1ME.
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