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Today's Topics:
1. Re: nec2 (Apostolos Kefalas)
2. 1.2 GHz, 3.4 GHz, 5 GHz, 10 GHz, 24 GHz bands (M5AKA)
3. Re: nec2 (Roy Dean)
4. SSB birds (RG)
5. DM 13/14/23 Rove (Bob Keating)
6. Re: 1.2 GHz, 3.4 GHz, 5 GHz, 10 GHz, 24 GHz bands (Zach Metzinger)
7. Re: 1.2 GHz, 3.4 GHz, 5 GHz, 10 GHz, 24 GHz bands (Stephen Kellat)
8. DIY Spectrum Analyzers 60 - 900 MHz (Robert Bruninga)
9. Next Rocket Lab launch 28th November (Wendy and Terry Osborne)
10. 9 cm band (Ev Tupis)
11. Re: 9 cm band (Paul Stoetzer)
12. Re: 9 cm band (Ev Tupis)
13. TODAY ONLY - 60% off AMSAT T-shirts on Zazzle (Paul Stoetzer)
14. Re: Brian Kantor, WB6CYT, SK (Joseph B. Fitzgerald)
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2019 09:12:26 +0200
From: Apostolos Kefalas <sv1ljj@????.???>
To: Roy Dean <royldean@?????.???>, amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] nec2
Message-ID: <6e351ab25ccf1635ee43ad2cbc0d9a122252a46d.camel@????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
On Sat, 2019-11-23 at 09:32 -0500, Roy Dean via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> > ------------------------------
> > 1. Edit GM card by moving Z to 3
>
>
> > 3. Edit RP card and decrease "points in theta" to 31. Also decrease
> > "increment theta" to 3 Hope this helps
>
>
> > Apostolos
> > SV1LJJ
>
> Apostolos - thank you for your help. However, for these two
> suggestions,
> can you provide the card position that the values go into
> (I1/I2/F1/F2/F3/etc)? Both GM and RP cards seem to have multiple
> positions
> that these could apply to (I am using the "nec2prt3.pdf" manual and
> the
> descriptions are different than what you are using above). Thanks!
>
> --Roy
Hello Roy,
I thought you used xnec2c that's why I used the descriptions above.
Anyway:
GM -> F6 set to 3
RP -> I2 set to 31, F3 set to 3
Below the nec file:
CM AA4TX 70cm parasitic lindy antenna design
CE End Comments
GW 1 25 0,00000E+00 0,00000E+00 -1,57000E-
01 0,00000E+00 0,00000E+00 1,57000E-01 1,90500E-02
GW 2 25 -1,29000E-01 1,03000E-01 7,50000E-02 1,29000E-
01 1,03000E-01 -7,50000E-02 3,25000E-03
GW 3 25 1,03000E-01 1,29000E-01 7,50000E-02 1,03000E-01
-1,29000E-01 -7,50000E-02 3,25000E-03
GW 4 25 1,29000E-01 -1,03000E-01 7,50000E-02 -1,29000E-01
-1,03000E-01 -7,50000E-02 3,25000E-03
GW 5 25 -1,03000E-01 -1,29000E-01 7,50000E-02 -1,03000E-
01 1,29000E-01 -7,50000E-02 3,25000E-03
GM 0 0 0,00000E+00 0,00000E+00 0,00000E+00 0,00000E+00 0,0
0000E+00 3,00000E+00 0,00000E+00
GE 1 0 0,00000E+00 0,00000E+00 0,00000E+00 0,00000E+00 0,
00000E+00 0,00000E+00 0,00000E+00
FR 0 31 0 0 4,35000E+02 1,00000E-
01 4,38000E+02 0,00000E+00 0,00000E+00 0,00000E+00
EX 0 1 13 0 1,00000E+00 0,00000E+00 0,00000E+00 0,0
0000E+00 0,00000E+00 0,00000E+00
RP 0 31 99 0 0,00000E+00 0,00000E+00 3,00000E+00 5,0
0000E+00 0,00000E+00 1,10000E+01
GN 2 0 0 0 1,20000E+01 1,00000E-
02 0,00000E+00 0,00000E+00 0,00000E+00 0,00000E+00
EN 0 0 0 0 0,00000E+00 0,00000E+00 0,00000E+00 0,0
0000E+00 0,00000E+00 0,00000E+00
Apostolos
SV1LJJ
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2019 12:54:41 +0000 (UTC)
From: M5AKA <m5aka@?????.??.??>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] 1.2 GHz, 3.4 GHz, 5 GHz, 10 GHz, 24 GHz bands
Message-ID: <1591006313.8019638.1574600081660@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
1.2 GHz Resolution COM6/17 (WRC-19), see page 514 of
https://www.itu.int/en/ITU-R/conferences/wrc/2019/Documents/PFA-WRC19-E.pdf
3.4 GHz FCC seeks to clear band of radio amateurs and other non-Federal
services
https://amsat-uk.org/2019/11/24/fcc-seeks-to-clear-radio-amateurs-out-of-3-4-g
hz/
WRC-19 Update: Small Satellites, the 1240-1300 MHz band and Final Report
https://amsat-uk.org/2019/11/22/wrc-19-small-satellites-23cm/
5 GHz Proposed FCC auction of C-Band increases competition for allocations
http://www.southgatearc.org/news/2019/november/proposed-fcc-auction-of-c-band-
increases-competition-for-allocations.htm
10 GHz WRC-23 - New IMT candidate bands, see page 470 of
https://www.itu.int/en/ITU-R/conferences/wrc/2019/Documents/PFA-WRC19-E.pdf
24 GHz - Washington Post report on 5G agreement at WRC-19
https://www.washingtonpost.com/weather/2019/11/22/global-g-deal-poses-signific
ant-threat-weather-forecast-accuracy-experts-warn/
Trevor M5AKA
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2019 08:38:40 -0500
From: Roy Dean <royldean@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] nec2
Message-ID:
<CADGPg2tqNf=oo63bE5mV-6ke80D67gw6phNOLnQbG=jJL7NL1w@????.?????.???>
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>
> I thought you used xnec2c that's why I used the descriptions above.
> Anyway: GM -> F6 set to 3
> RP -> I2 set to 31, F3 set to 3
Ah, I didn't even realize those were specific to the xnec2c editor! I had
been using a terminal editor (nano) - but this makes much more sense.
Thank you!
--Roy
K3RLD
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2019 17:58:41 +0000 (UTC)
From: RG <marzo7088@?????.???>
To: "amsat-bb@?????.???? <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] SSB birds
Message-ID: <1652729797.3076074.1574618321655@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Okay,I finally have the Kenwood TS2000 up and running.I can't hear my
downlink.Running one antenna shouldn't have to do with it right?I worked
half duplex and had about 3 contacts so now I have full duplex setup.I have
the Amsat chart so I set up for those frequencies.For doppler shift on 440kc
is it? +-15kc?I am running about 20watts so I should be okay,It's alot but
it's also a vertical.I unlink the uplink? on my radio and listen and
transmitt while moving the downlink-nothing?Any advice.Thanks alot for your
help:)73Rich
marzo7088@?????.???
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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2019 12:03:44 -0800
From: Bob Keating <bkeating1954@?????.???>
To: AMSAT-BB@?????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] DM 13/14/23 Rove
Message-ID: <ef10b51b-9038-854b-c8c4-ff015d52d08f@?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
Greetings All,
I have been off the birds for the last 3 months or so due to a death in
the family.? Now that things are settling down and life is starting to
get back to normal, my XYL and I are hooking up the 5th wheel and
heading to Joshua Tree NP for the Thanksgiving weekend.? I plan to work
the FM birds holiday style on Thursday, Friday and Saturday, weather
permitting from the DM 13/14 grid line and DM 13/23 grid line. Will
upload contact to LOTW upon my return to home QTH. Hope to hear you.
73,
Bob N6REK
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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2019 15:10:48 -0600
From: Zach Metzinger <zmetzing@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] 1.2 GHz, 3.4 GHz, 5 GHz, 10 GHz, 24 GHz bands
Message-ID: <0b430cbd-2524-42e0-76a6-a26a079a7b38@?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
On 11/24/19 06:54, M5AKA via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> 3.4 GHz FCC seeks to clear band of radio amateurs and other non-Federal
services
>
https://amsat-uk.org/2019/11/24/fcc-seeks-to-clear-radio-amateurs-out-of-3-4-g
hz/
"With respect to amateur operations, is there sufficient existing
amateur spectrum in other bands that can support the operations
currently conducted in the 3.3-3.5 GHz band?"
We're slowly being corralled into less and less spectrum, without
consideration given to the fact that each band has slightly different
characteristics and challenges.
It is clear that the FCC, and our legislators in Congress, no longer
consider the greater public good when parceling out spectrum
allocations. Instead, the almighty dollar drives their decisions.
"Since July 1994, the FCC has conducted 87 spectrum auctions, which
raised over $60 billion for the U.S. Treasury (not all of which has been
collected)." (Wikipedia)
Broadcast TV, initially licensed for the public good to disseminate
news, is now only entertainment. The "news" reported is a joke, and its
only purpose is to lure viewers into watching the 60% commercials to
line the pockets of the station/networks. Guess where they put that
money? Right back into lobbying our legislature into giving them more of
what they want.
Mobile networks? Another wasteland of entertainment with little actual
content. Gotta have 5G to watch the latest Netflix or whatever while
driving...
*sigh*
</rant>
--- Zach
N0ZGO
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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2019 21:52:06 -0000
From: Stephen Kellat <smkellat@??????.???>
To: Zach Metzinger via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] 1.2 GHz, 3.4 GHz, 5 GHz, 10 GHz, 24 GHz bands
Message-ID: <cafe63c7-6593-4400-b401-cdc5eea30b88@??.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
On Sun, Nov 24, 2019 at 03:10:48PM -0600, Zach Metzinger via AMSAT-BB wrote:
On 11/24/19 06:54, M5AKA via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> 3.4 GHz FCC seeks to clear band of radio amateurs and other non-Federal
services
>
https://amsat-uk.org/2019/11/24/fcc-seeks-to-clear-radio-amateurs-out-of-3-4-g
hz/
"With respect to amateur operations, is there sufficient existing amateur
spectrum in other bands that can support the operations currently conducted
in the 3.3-3.5 GHz band?"
We're slowly being corralled into less and less spectrum, without
consideration given to the fact that each band has slightly different
characteristics and challenges.
It is clear that the FCC, and our legislators in Congress, no longer
consider the greater public good when parceling out spectrum allocations.
Instead, the almighty dollar drives their decisions.
At this point I'm going to suggest that rather than complain instead run to
turf somebody out in an elected office. Primary season for congressional
elections will start up very shortly. DC is stuck in a rut and frankly
firing all the incumbents on Capitol Hill might help make action a little
more sensible.
Stephen Michael Kellat
KC8BFI
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Message: 8
Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2019 17:14:54 -0500
From: Robert Bruninga <bruninga@????.???>
To: amsat bb <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] DIY Spectrum Analyzers 60 - 900 MHz
Message-ID:
<CALdCfNJ8rVr5kGQbAeCrEMd6h8Rp7MsMRW-qKkGzRUeN9q2S8w@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
In their day, all it took was a saw-tooth oscillator to the analog
varactor tuning lead and you had a spectrum analyzer, 60-900 MHz.
I delayed too long. All 80 set-top analog Cable TV tuners are going to the
dump Tuesday, unless some old man still wants to play. Location is Glen
Burnie, MD. Could bring a few to dayton...
Bob, WB4APR
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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2019 14:04:08 +1300
From: "Wendy and Terry Osborne" <wandtosborne@?????.???>
To: <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Cc: Roger Bould <rogannbould@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Next Rocket Lab launch 28th November
Message-ID: <6F8D1707E3CB45DBB77D2BC9F92CE41D@??????????>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Hi Folks,
The next Rocket Lab launch (number 10) is scheduled for 28th November 07:56
to 09:22 UTC ( 20:56 to 22:22 NZDT).
Early evening launch.
See: https://www.rocketlabusa.com/missions/next-mission/
Live webcast from their web site from about T-15 minutes.
https://www.rocketlabusa.com/
73,
Terry Osborne ZL2BAC
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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2019 19:52:55 +0000 (UTC)
From: Ev Tupis <w2ev@?????.???>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] 9 cm band
Message-ID: <1524706814.3370525.1574711575509@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Sorry.? I apologize for my lack of searching-savvy.
I searched AMSAT.org for "9cm" and "9 cm" and found nothing.? Are there
Amateur satellites using (or planned to use) the 3.3-3.5 GHz band?
Ev, W2EV
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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2019 15:00:34 -0500
From: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@????.???>
To: Ev Tupis <w2ev@?????.???>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] 9 cm band
Message-ID:
<CABzOSOo4Gkzn8CcArnbCrb_eURbq9OsSEmYwNvkYxr4nrG1oTQ@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
Ev,
The amateur satellite service band at 3.4 - 3.41 GHz is only available
in ITU Regions 1 and 2, which makes it a little tricky for an orbiting
satellite since it is not available in ITU Region 3.
There was a Peruvian cubesat that planned to use it, but the project
was canceled. I believe there were discussions about using it on Eagle
(and maybe on AO-40 as well), but as it's not a worldwide allocation,
presumably that capability would have had to be disabled while the
satellite is over Region 3.
73,
Paul, N8HM
On Mon, Nov 25, 2019 at 2:53 PM Ev Tupis via AMSAT-BB
<amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>
> Sorry. I apologize for my lack of searching-savvy.
> I searched AMSAT.org for "9cm" and "9 cm" and found nothing. Are there
Amateur satellites using (or planned to use) the 3.3-3.5 GHz band?
> Ev, W2EV
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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2019 20:38:56 +0000 (UTC)
From: Ev Tupis <w2ev@?????.???>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] 9 cm band
Message-ID: <699735457.3398487.1574714336158@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Nice and very informative.? Thanks for taking the time to lay out the full
picture, Paul.
Sincerely,Ev, W2EV
On Monday, November 25, 2019, 3:00:48 PM EST, Paul Stoetzer
<n8hm@????.???> wrote:
Ev,
The amateur satellite service band at 3.4 - 3.41 GHz is only available
in ITU Regions 1 and 2, which makes it a little tricky for an orbiting
satellite since it is not available in ITU Region 3.
There was a Peruvian cubesat that planned to use it, but the project
was canceled. I believe there were discussions about using it on Eagle
(and maybe on AO-40 as well), but as it's not a worldwide allocation,
presumably that capability would have had to be disabled while the
satellite is over Region 3.
73,
Paul, N8HM
On Mon, Nov 25, 2019 at 2:53 PM Ev Tupis via AMSAT-BB
<amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>
> Sorry.? I apologize for my lack of searching-savvy.
>? I searched AMSAT.org for "9cm" and "9 cm" and found nothing.? Are there
Amateur satellites using (or planned to use) the 3.3-3.5 GHz band?
> Ev, W2EV
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
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Message: 13
Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2019 16:39:53 -0500
From: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@?????.???>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] TODAY ONLY - 60% off AMSAT T-shirts on Zazzle
Message-ID:
<CABzOSOr-=bg8_5fdLfHXkNcheBu2JY+9j-8VWCF5mxqqYX_Qww@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
I just wanted to let everyone know that, today only on the AMSAT
Zazzle store, get 60% off AMSAT t-shirts with promo code ZBLKFRIDEALS.
A variety of designs are available and they are all
fully-customizable. Choose your own color, shirt style, and even add
your callsign or other text on the back.
All other items are 20% off. This deal expires at the end of the day
today, so act quickly!
https://www.zazzle.com/amsat_gear?rf=238912152666142127&CMPN=share_dblst&lang=
en&social=true
73,
Paul Stoetzer, N8HM
Executive Vice President
Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT)
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Message: 14
Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2019 13:23:06 +0000
From: "Joseph B. Fitzgerald" <jfitzgerald@????.???.???>
To: "James R. La Frieda via AMSAT-BB" <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Brian Kantor, WB6CYT, SK
Message-ID:
<MWHPR2201MB1645F577AD87E2675D4151EE87450@???????????????.????????.????.??????
?.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Brian was a key player in AMSAT's early presence on the internet, and acted
as the primary contact with our domain registrar up through last year. I
remember his patience working through the baroque processes of our old
registrar to get the domain transferred to its current home.
-Joe
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