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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: AO-92 L/v scheduled soon (Andrew Glasbrenner)
   2. Satellite Gear for sale... (Gail A Mcdaniel)
   3. XW2B Pass 11/25/19 EM44 (Bob Liddy (K8BL))
   4. Re: Next Rocket Lab launch 28th November (Wendy and Terry Osborne)
   5. Use of "veronica" beacons on wikipedia (Roy Dean)
   6. Re: Brian Kantor, WB6CYT, SK (Phil Karn)
   7. Re: Use of "veronica" beacons on wikipedia (Michelle Thompson)
   8. Re: Use of "veronica" beacons on wikipedia (Zach Metzinger)
   9. Re: Use of "veronica" beacons on wikipedia (Jeff Johns)
  10. IC-9700 on sale today (Alan)
  11. W0JT and KL7NO Silent Key's (SK) (JoAnne K9JKM)
  12. Fort Worth Tx Cowtown Hamfest Jan 17 and 18
      (tjschuessler@???????.????
  13. Re: Use of "veronica" beacons on wikipedia (Jean Marc Momple)


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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2019 22:22:24 -0500
From: "Andrew Glasbrenner" <glasbrenner@??????????.???>
To: "'Ronald G. Parsons'" <w5rkn@?????.???>
Cc: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-92 L/v scheduled soon
Message-ID: <004401d5a4d1$e38f7f10$aaae7d30$@??????????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

0308UTC if anyone needs the exact time :-)

73, Drew KO4MA

-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb-bounces@?????.???> On Behalf Of Ronald G. Parsons
via AMSAT-BB
Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2019 9:49 PM
To: AMSAT-BB <AMSAT-BB@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-92 L/v scheduled soon

The switch should occur a little after 0300Z tonight for 24 hours.
Ron W5RKN
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2019 19:21:41 +0000 (UTC)
From: Gail A Mcdaniel <gmcdanl@?????????.???>
To: "amsat-bb@?????.???? <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Satellite Gear for sale...
Message-ID: <201661209.4019776.1574882501665@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Time to clean the shack...? I would like to sell the satellite gear together
as a lot
Make offer...
Yaesu FT-736R - VHF/UHF transceiverYaesu G5500 - Rotator and Control unit
with azimuth and elevation control?Two 75 foot lengths of rotor cableM2 5ft
fiberglass cross-boomAEA ST-1 Satellite Tracker interfaceM^2 436CP30
Circular Polarized 70cm (430-440MHz) Yagi?M^2 2MCP22 Circular Polarized 2M
(144-148MHz) YagiYaesu MD1-C8 - MicrophoneYaesu FOF-232C - CAT system
InterfaceAll of the satellite gear has been disassembled and boxed up

MFJ-1274 TNC-2 Packet Radio
MFJ-1272B - TNC/Mic Interface Switch
Local Pickup


Gail McDaniel (KB0RZD)kb0rzd@?????.???


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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2019 20:11:04 +0000 (UTC)
From: "Bob Liddy (K8BL)" <k8bl@?????????.???>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] XW2B Pass 11/25/19 EM44
Message-ID: <961601847.416005.1574885464923@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Grid Chasers,

On a pass 11/25/19 on XW2B from EM44, I logged and uploaded
to LoTW:

W5CBF, KN4BBD, NS3L, WA5LRC, N4QX, WB0VGI, W4ZXT, KB1HY

If I missed anyone, let me know and I'll check my audio log again.

TNX/73,? ? ?Bob? K8BL



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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2019 13:43:28 +1300
From: "Wendy and Terry Osborne" <wandtosborne@?????.???>
To: "Roger Bould" <rogannbould@?????.???>
Cc: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Next Rocket Lab launch 28th November
Message-ID: <8DFF6582FEDC4C07BB70CC0D98BD1A09@??????????>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"

Launch delayed until tomorrow for some extra payload checks.
See: https://twitter.com/RocketLab/status/1199563370233397248

Terry

From: Roger Bould
Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2019 9:04 PM
To: 'Wendy and Terry Osborne'
Subject: RE: Next Rocket Lab launch 28th November

THANX



From: Wendy and Terry Osborne [mailto:wandtosborne@?????.????
Sent: Monday, 25 November 2019 2:04 p.m.
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Cc: Roger Bould; ZL2BJO@?????.???
Subject: Next Rocket Lab launch 28th November



Hi Folks,



The next Rocket Lab launch (number 10) is scheduled for 28th November 07:56
to 09:22 UTC ( 20:56 to 22:22 NZDT).

Early evening launch.

See: https://www.rocketlabusa.com/missions/next-mission/



Live webcast from their web site from about T-15 minutes.

https://www.rocketlabusa.com/



73,

Terry Osborne ZL2BAC


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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2019 11:18:32 -0500
From: Roy Dean <royldean@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] Use of "veronica" beacons on wikipedia
Message-ID:
<CADGPg2ukcB=JLY-7XxaczS2imgt2M9ubMXvwwC-cHqSikdmFng@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

I recorded some very high quality beacons for AO-95, and was hoping to
put them in wiki commons for inclusion on the AO-95 wikipedia page.
However before doing so you are warned about copyrighted material and
I realize that uploading that recording is likely no different than
uploading anybody else's musical or spoken word work.

I also took a screen grab of the waterfall showing the characteristic
"fox tail", which I believe is free and clear - and I checked the
AMSAT website regarding copyrighted material and it only mentions
audio used on the AMSAT website (I think).

Anyhoo, can I get written permission to post beacon recordings to wiki
commons (wikipedia)?   Do I need to go through the website form (it
doesn't really to "work" for recorded audio, only images) If not, no
biggie.

Happy Thanksgiving, all!

--Roy
K3RLD


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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2019 08:58:51 -0800
From: Phil Karn <karn@????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Brian Kantor, WB6CYT, SK
Message-ID: <90228e4b-52f7-db09-06e4-3ffaf994bfe6@????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

On 11/26/19 05:53, Joseph B. Fitzgerald via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> So sorry you had to write this e-mail.   I you explaining how excited you
were about working with him on ARDC.
>
> -Joe KM1P
> ________________________________

Thank you. As I said, Brian was irreplaceable. Recovering from this will
take some time and be a lot of work. But when we do, it's safe to say
that one of the first grants ARDC will make is a college scholarship in
Brian's memory.

73, Phil




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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2019 14:56:25 -0800
From: Michelle Thompson <mountain.michelle@?????.???>
To: Roy Dean <royldean@?????.???>
Cc: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Use of "veronica" beacons on wikipedia
Message-ID:
<CACvjz2WmkO0aDXdaDSJvxwE4yfb-poM_jVeBnWyhWX-XFxgd5w@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

I?m in favor. I cannot think of a reason why it shouldn?t be on Wikipedia
and in wiki commons.

I will ask the rest of the board today.

-Michelle W5NYV

On Thu, Nov 28, 2019 at 08:20 Roy Dean via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
wrote:

> I recorded some very high quality beacons for AO-95, and was hoping to
> put them in wiki commons for inclusion on the AO-95 wikipedia page.
> However before doing so you are warned about copyrighted material and
> I realize that uploading that recording is likely no different than
> uploading anybody else's musical or spoken word work.
>
> I also took a screen grab of the waterfall showing the characteristic
> "fox tail", which I believe is free and clear - and I checked the
> AMSAT website regarding copyrighted material and it only mentions
> audio used on the AMSAT website (I think).
>
> Anyhoo, can I get written permission to post beacon recordings to wiki
> commons (wikipedia)?   Do I need to go through the website form (it
> doesn't really to "work" for recorded audio, only images) If not, no
> biggie.
>
> Happy Thanksgiving, all!
>
> --Roy
> K3RLD
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
--
-Michelle W5NYV

"Potestatem obscuri lateris nescis."


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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2019 17:21:17 -0600
From: Zach Metzinger <zmetzing@?????.???>
To: Roy Dean <royldean@?????.???>, Roy Dean via AMSAT-BB
<amsat-bb@?????.???>,	amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Use of "veronica" beacons on wikipedia
Message-ID: <9471EF49-06D2-4D3C-8626-C823F5849757@?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

On November 28, 2019 10:18:32 AM CST, Roy Dean via AMSAT-BB
<amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>I recorded some very high quality beacons for AO-95, and was hoping to
>put them in wiki commons for inclusion on the AO-95 wikipedia page.
>However before doing so you are warned about copyrighted material and
A short sample probably qualifies under fair use, but IANAL[1], nor do I
speak in any capacity for AMSAT.

http://www.dmlp.org/legal-guide/fair-use

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IANAL

--- Zach
N0ZGO


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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2019 17:39:02 -0600
From: Jeff Johns <jeff30339@?????.???>
To: AMSAT <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Use of "veronica" beacons on wikipedia
Message-ID: <C906417B-A9BE-4369-8617-53A41A13190C@?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

Great idea!

Jeff WE4B

> On Nov 28, 2019, at 10:20 AM, Roy Dean via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
wrote:
>
> ?I recorded some very high quality beacons for AO-95, and was hoping to
> put them in wiki commons for inclusion on the AO-95 wikipedia page.
> However before doing so you are warned about copyrighted material and
> I realize that uploading that recording is likely no different than
> uploading anybody else's musical or spoken word work.
>
> I also took a screen grab of the waterfall showing the characteristic
> "fox tail", which I believe is free and clear - and I checked the
> AMSAT website regarding copyrighted material and it only mentions
> audio used on the AMSAT website (I think).
>
> Anyhoo, can I get written permission to post beacon recordings to wiki
> commons (wikipedia)?   Do I need to go through the website form (it
> doesn't really to "work" for recorded audio, only images) If not, no
> biggie.
>
> Happy Thanksgiving, all!
>
> --Roy
> K3RLD
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb


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Message: 10
Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2019 05:12:36 -0600
From: "Alan" <wa4sca@?????.???>
To: "AMSAT-BB" <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] IC-9700 on sale today
Message-ID: <000001d5a6a5$e83ffd20$b8bff760$@?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="utf-8"

GigaParts has it on Black Friday sale for $1449.95 with free shipping.

73,

Alan
WA4SCA




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Message: 11
Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2019 14:01:50 -0600
From: "JoAnne K9JKM" <joanne.k9jkm@?????.???>
To: "'AMSAT-BB'" <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] W0JT and KL7NO Silent Key's (SK)
Message-ID: <5de1792d.1c69fb81.70061.c23d@??.??????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

From: All-members [mailto:all-members-bounces@??????.???? On Behalf Of Jon
Platt via All-members
Sent: Friday, November 29, 2019 1:21 PM
To: all-members@??????.???
Subject: [All-members] W0JT and KL7NO Silent Key's (SK)



I am sorry to say that I have two SK reports to pass along to all Society
members.



Albert ?Al? Noe (81), KL7NO, from Fairbanks Alaska, passed away Monday
evening, November 25, 21 months after being diagnosed with stage 4
Pancreatic cancer.   Al was an avid 6 meter operator just outside of
Fairbanks, Alaska in grid BP54.   He was still active on 6 meters up until
the very end.   For over 40 years Al provided EME, AMSAT, and many other
contacts on 6, 2, 1.25 meters, 70 & 23 centimeters from his Alaska QTH just
outside of Fairbanks.   Blanchard Family Funeral Home in Fairbanks will be
handling Al?s services and an obituary will be published at a later date.  
https://www.blanchardfamilyfuneralhome.com/



John Toscano, W0JT, passed away Wednesday, November 27, in San Antonio.  He
fought a long battle against many health problems during the last several
years.  Since moving to Texas, he had almost completed his dream station
(6-m through 10 GHz) at a great location (20 dB hilltop) and participated in
both AMSAT and RMG club activities.  Previously, while in Minnesota, he was
a very active NLRS member on the VHF/UHF/SHF bands with fixed, rover and
portable stations.  As a retired pharmacist and U of MN assistant professor,
John will be remembered for his programming contributions with his 10 GHz
contest logging/scoring program and his on-line contest activity
spreadsheets.  He also had many interests in astronomy and astrophysics.





73, Jon

W0ZQ



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Message: 12
Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2019 19:31:24 -0600
From: <tjschuessler@???????.???>
To: <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Fort Worth Tx Cowtown Hamfest Jan 17 and 18
Message-ID: <00c301d5a71d$e11c5c00$a3551400$@???????.???>
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AMSAT will be represented at the 2020 Cowtown Hamfest in Fort Worth, TX on
January 17 and 18 with a table, demos and presentations.  If you live in the
North Texas area, this is a great event, well attended and lots of vendors.
We also need help to man the table, do the demos and assist with the
presentations.  Please put it on your calendar.  Info at
http://www.cowtownhamfest.com/ (Still their 2019 site but with information
on 2020 on front page and table/ticket sales now open as well).

The Cowtown amateur Radio Club was a home for our dearly beloved and SK,
Keith Pugh, W5IU.  The organizers offered AMSAT a no charge table space in
the market area so a big thank you to them is in order.

Hope you will plan to be a part of this fine event.  If you can assist in
any way for AMSAT, please drop me an email at N5HYP@????.??? and we will get
the planning going.

Tom Schuessler, N5HYP, AMSAT Ambassador
EM12ms





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Message: 13
Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2019 10:19:15 +0400
From: Jean Marc Momple <jean.marc.momple@?????.???>
To: Michelle Thompson <mountain.michelle@?????.???>
Cc: amsat-bb@?????.???? Roy Dean <royldean@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Use of "veronica" beacons on wikipedia
Message-ID: <879DA011-6726-4A8D-9D1D-9358D62EFBB3@?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset=utf-8

Roy,

This is an interesting subject which triggers some questions:

Is telemetry or beacon of satellites subject to copyright?

As far as I know none have a copyright warning, more many records and TLM
are circulated openly on many sites or forums.

Any lawyer in the community who may advise?

Regards



Jean Marc

> On Nov 29, 2019, at 2:56 AM, Michelle Thompson via AMSAT-BB
<amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>
> I?m in favor. I cannot think of a reason why it shouldn?t be on Wikipedia
> and in wiki commons.
>
> I will ask the rest of the board today.
>
> -Michelle W5NYV
>
> On Thu, Nov 28, 2019 at 08:20 Roy Dean via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
> wrote:
>
>> I recorded some very high quality beacons for AO-95, and was hoping to
>> put them in wiki commons for inclusion on the AO-95 wikipedia page.
>> However before doing so you are warned about copyrighted material and
>> I realize that uploading that recording is likely no different than
>> uploading anybody else's musical or spoken word work.
>>
>> I also took a screen grab of the waterfall showing the characteristic
>> "fox tail", which I believe is free and clear - and I checked the
>> AMSAT website regarding copyrighted material and it only mentions
>> audio used on the AMSAT website (I think).
>>
>> Anyhoo, can I get written permission to post beacon recordings to wiki
>> commons (wikipedia)?   Do I need to go through the website form (it
>> doesn't really to "work" for recorded audio, only images) If not, no
>> biggie.
>>
>> Happy Thanksgiving, all!
>>
>> --Roy
>> K3RLD
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
>> expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>> AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>
> --
> -Michelle W5NYV
>
> "Potestatem obscuri lateris nescis."
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb



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AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide
without requiring membership.  Opinions expressed
are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
Not an AMSAT member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb

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