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Today's Topics:
1. SO50 pass today (John Geiger)
2. Updates to the AMSAT Upcoming Satellite Operations Page
(Paul Stoetzer)
3. 73 on 73 Award #19 - JH3XCU (Paul Stoetzer)
4. Video of my first SO-50 contact with K4FEG (John Brier)
5. VP2MKV pass plan (Jim White)
6. LOTW For Satellite Operators Tutorial (Sean K.)
7. Digi QSO via ISS? (Steve Kristoff)
8. Re: Digi QSO via ISS? (Vince Fiscus, KB7ADL)
9. Re: Digi QSO via ISS? (Steve Kristoff)
10. Re: Digi QSO via ISS? (Stefan Wagener)
11. Re: Digi QSO via ISS? (John Becker)
12. Re: Digi QSO via ISS? (John Fickes)
13. Re: Digi QSO via ISS? (Sean Kutzko)
14. Re: Digi QSO via ISS? (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK))
15. Re: Digi QSO via ISS? (use >) (Robert Bruninga)
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 10 May 2015 17:05:57 -0500
From: John Geiger <af5cc@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] SO50 pass today
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Who was the station on from FM09 on SO50 today on the 2131Z pass?
73 John AF5CC
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 10 May 2015 22:37:40 -0400
From: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx>
To: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Updates to the AMSAT Upcoming Satellite Operations
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Good evening,
I just wanted to let everyone know that there are 16 operations to
many rare grids and a couple of rare countries over the next two and a
half months now listed on the AMSAT Upcoming Satellite Operations page
( http://www.amsat.org/?page_id=3921 ). I encourage everyone to
bookmark the page and/or follow @xxxxx on Twitter
(http://www.twitter.com/AMSAT) to see notifications when operations
are added to the page.
Please send me any updates, corrections, or new operations to add to the page.
73,
Paul Stoetzer, N8HM
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 11 May 2015 09:48:05 -0400
From: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx>
To: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] 73 on 73 Award #19 - JH3XCU
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Good morning,
Congratulations to Hideo Kambayashi, JH3XCU, for working 73 different
stations on AO-73 since September 1, 2014. Notably, he is the first to
work all 73 different stations using CW.
For more information on the award see
http://amsat-uk.org/funcube/73-on-73-award/
73,
Paul Stoetzer, N8HM
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 11 May 2015 11:00:31 -0400
From: John Brier <johnbrier@xxxxx.xxx>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Video of my first SO-50 contact with K4FEG
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Thanks to all for welcoming me on the bird on the early morning pass.
I made a short video of my contact with K4FEG:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJ3pvpVERFQ
Here's a quick video of my first contact on SO-50, with K4FEG in
Millington, TN. I didn't want to edit the whole thing because that
takes even more time, but I also made contacts with the following
stations:
N2PPL, Long Island, NY
W2HRO, Titusville, NJ
WI9I, Springfield, IL
And maybe KD8ATF in Fort Ashby, WV depending on if it's okay to
confirm something by listening to the recording. :-)
Thanks to all on the bird for making my first 2-way contacts so fun and easy!
73, John, KG4AKV, FM05
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 11 May 2015 09:24:08 -0600
From: Jim White <jim@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] VP2MKV pass plan
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Tentative satellite pass plan for VP2MKV operation: We will attempt to
be on the first two FO-29 ascending node passes June 11 through 20. If
time allows we may be on the third ascending node those days. Those
passes happen in late morning to mid afternoon Montserrat time. On
those passes we will look first for South America when the satellite is
South of us, then North America, then Europe during the short mutual
window. If there are 2 meter or 6 meter terrestrial openings during the
VHF contest June 13 and 14 we will not be on satellite at those times.
Jim
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 11 May 2015 19:08:29 +0000 (UTC)
From: "Sean K." <kx9x@xxxxx.xxx>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] LOTW For Satellite Operators Tutorial
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Hi all-
ARRL has provided a PowerPoint presentation on Logbook of The World focused
on satellite operation in the ARRL Online Library. There is also an Intro to
LoTW PowerPoint available.
Both may be found at www.arrl.org/library, in the PowerPoint area.
?Sean Kutzko
Amateur Radio KX9X
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 11 May 2015 15:16:25 -0400
From: Steve Kristoff <skristof@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Digi QSO via ISS?
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I apologize if this has been dealt with in a previous thread, but if it was,
I missed it.
Can we do a valid QSO by ISS digipeater? It seems to me that a message
directed from one station directly to another station with a callsign, name
and grid square and a directed reply in the same format would constitute a
valid QSO.
I'd like to hear other's thoughts.
Even it doesn't constitute an "official" QSO, I'd like to try it anyway.
I've been sending messages to specific stations on the Heard list via the
UISS software, but have never received a reply specifically addressed to me.
If anyone is interested in doing that, I will probably be on Tuesday, May
12, around 1005 UTC and again around 1632 UTC.
Steve Kristoff AI9IN
EM79ji
skristof@xxxxxxx.xxx
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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 11 May 2015 14:33:34 -0600
From: "Vince Fiscus, KB7ADL" <vlfiscus@xxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Digi QSO via ISS?
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At 03:16 PM 5/11/2015 -0400, Steve Kristoff <skristof@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>I apologize if this has been dealt with in a previous thread, but if it
>was, I missed it.
>Can we do a valid QSO by ISS digipeater?
Yes, If you can get through the APRS QRM.
You have to unproto via the ISS digi callsign. Back in the Mir
days packet contacts were easy, but APRS has rendered keyboarding
through the ISS digi pretty much impossible.
KB7ADL
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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 11 May 2015 15:47:04 -0400
From: Steve Kristoff <skristof@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>, "Vince Fiscus, KB7ADL" <vlfiscus@xxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Digi QSO via ISS?
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The UISS software has a macro just for messages. That should work, yes?
Steve Kristoff AI9IN
skristof@xxxxxxx.xxx
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From: "Vince Fiscus, KB7ADL" <vlfiscus@xxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2015 4:33 PM
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Digi QSO via ISS?
> At 03:16 PM 5/11/2015 -0400, Steve Kristoff <skristof@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>>I apologize if this has been dealt with in a previous thread, but if it
>>was, I missed it.
>>Can we do a valid QSO by ISS digipeater?
>
>
> Yes, If you can get through the APRS QRM.
>
> You have to unproto via the ISS digi callsign. Back in the Mir
> days packet contacts were easy, but APRS has rendered keyboarding
> through the ISS digi pretty much impossible.
>
> KB7ADL
>
>
>
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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 11 May 2015 14:57:12 -0500
From: Stefan Wagener <wageners@xxxxx.xxx>
To: "Vince Fiscus, KB7ADL" <vlfiscus@xxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Digi QSO via ISS?
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Hi Vince,
I would disagree with that statement. While I don't have time every week to
do that, whenever I use the ISS APRS, I have been able to connect with one
or two stations (pending time and orbit) using UISS to have a quick
exchange. It is all within the operator and willingness to respond. The key
is to respond to a specific station in the beginning using their callsign
as listed by UISS.
Just checked on ARISS.net and folks have been chatting on the last pass
even today.
73, Stefan, VE4NSA
On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 3:33 PM, Vince Fiscus, KB7ADL <vlfiscus@xxx.xxx>
wrote:
> At 03:16 PM 5/11/2015 -0400, Steve Kristoff <skristof@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
>> I apologize if this has been dealt with in a previous thread, but if it
>> was, I missed it.
>> Can we do a valid QSO by ISS digipeater?
>>
>
>
> Yes, If you can get through the APRS QRM.
>
> You have to unproto via the ISS digi callsign. Back in the Mir
> days packet contacts were easy, but APRS has rendered keyboarding
> through the ISS digi pretty much impossible.
>
> KB7ADL
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 11 May 2015 15:01:02 -0500
From: John Becker <w0jab@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Digi QSO via ISS?
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On 5/11/2015 3:33 PM,
> Yes, If you can get through the APRS QRM.
So true !
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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 11 May 2015 15:02:23 -0500
From: John Fickes <kc0bmf@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Steve Kristoff <skristof@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Digi QSO via ISS?
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?Steve
Sure you can. What are you using for software ? I use UISS and what I do
is send call sign, some sort of signal report (it could be 59,599,grid or
combination of report and grid ) and then a 73?. I think as long as there
is protocol similar to JT65 where the three things are sent and received in
back and forth order, other stations call,a report and 73, this way your
pretty sure there is someone on the other end and your not just getting
someones automatic announcement. Hope to see you on.
73 John KC0BMF
1:16 Minutes:Greatest commercial EVER
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxU1ZhINaHk
On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 2:16 PM, Steve Kristoff <skristof@xxxxxxx.xxx>
wrote:
> I apologize if this has been dealt with in a previous thread, but if it
> was, I missed it.
> Can we do a valid QSO by ISS digipeater? It seems to me that a message
> directed from one station directly to another station with a callsign, name
> and grid square and a directed reply in the same format would constitute a
> valid QSO.
> I'd like to hear other's thoughts.
> Even it doesn't constitute an "official" QSO, I'd like to try it anyway.
> I've been sending messages to specific stations on the Heard list via the
> UISS software, but have never received a reply specifically addressed to me.
> If anyone is interested in doing that, I will probably be on Tuesday, May
> 12, around 1005 UTC and again around 1632 UTC.
>
> Steve Kristoff AI9IN
> EM79ji
> skristof@xxxxxxx.xxx
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
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Message: 13
Date: Mon, 11 May 2015 17:15:25 -0400
From: Sean Kutzko <kx9x@xxxxx.xxx>
To: John Fickes <kc0bmf@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Digi QSO via ISS?
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There needs to be an exchange of info and acknowledgement from both stations
that reports were received on both ends.
Kx9x: CQ KX9X
Kc0bmf: KX9X de KC0BMF EM29
Kx9x: KC0BMF R FN31
Kc0bmf: KX9X R 73
Kx9x: 73 QRZ KX9X
UISS software can handle this quite easily.
That's my opinion, anyway.
Sean KX9X
Sent from Sean's iPad
> On May 11, 2015, at 4:02 PM, John Fickes <kc0bmf@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
> ?Steve
> Sure you can. What are you using for software ? I use UISS and what I do
> is send call sign, some sort of signal report (it could be 59,599,grid or
> combination of report and grid ) and then a 73?. I think as long as there
> is protocol similar to JT65 where the three things are sent and received in
> back and forth order, other stations call,a report and 73, this way your
> pretty sure there is someone on the other end and your not just getting
> someones automatic announcement. Hope to see you on.
>
> 73 John KC0BMF
>
> 1:16 Minutes:Greatest commercial EVER
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxU1ZhINaHk
>
> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 2:16 PM, Steve Kristoff <skristof@xxxxxxx.xxx>
> wrote:
>
>> I apologize if this has been dealt with in a previous thread, but if it
>> was, I missed it.
>> Can we do a valid QSO by ISS digipeater? It seems to me that a message
>> directed from one station directly to another station with a callsign, name
>> and grid square and a directed reply in the same format would constitute a
>> valid QSO.
>> I'd like to hear other's thoughts.
>> Even it doesn't constitute an "official" QSO, I'd like to try it anyway.
>> I've been sending messages to specific stations on the Heard list via the
>> UISS software, but have never received a reply specifically addressed to
me.
>> If anyone is interested in doing that, I will probably be on Tuesday, May
>> 12, around 1005 UTC and again around 1632 UTC.
>>
>> Steve Kristoff AI9IN
>> EM79ji
>> skristof@xxxxxxx.xxx
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
>> expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>> AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> _______________________________________________
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> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
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Message: 14
Date: Mon, 11 May 2015 14:52:14 -0700
From: "Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)" <amsat-bb@xxxxxx.xxx>
To: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Digi QSO via ISS?
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Sean (and others),
That looks good. The initial "CQ" call could start with receiving a station's
beacon containing the location or other text that is sent through the ISS
digipeater. Sometimes I'll see only a signal report from the other station
(59 or 599), since the location has already been received from a beacon
packet with that information. This would be similar to sending only a "59"
when working a DXpedition, where they really don't care to hear too
much when making lots of QSOs. I don't normally send a CQ when on
ISS passes (or, when it's behaving, NO-44 passes), but will enable a
beacon with my position and my two call signs when I'm at the radio.
By using APRS messaging instead of just typing free-form text, you will
be able to make packet QSOs with stations that may only have radios
like the Kenwood TH-D72A or TM-D710 (or their predecessors), as well
as those using programs like UISS that speak APRS messaging, or
simpler terminal programs that don't speak APRS messaging. These
radios can receive the APRS messages, and - using the DTMF pads -
send APRS messages. My TH-D72A will see the call of a station that
sends me a free-form line of text like:
WD9EWK-9 UR 599 (grid)
but not the text. I might be able to see this packet on ariss.net, but that
would not be receiving it on my radio, so no QSO. If that free-form text
line includes a colon before the text:
WD9EWK-9 :UR 599 (grid)
(my call with -9, space, colon, then text)
my TH-D72A would interpret that as an APRS message directed to
me, from whoever sent it to me. The sender's call and a date/time
stamp would be stored with the received message, and then I can
view this message on the HT. From there, I can quickly send a
reply without having to enter the other station's call. I'm typing out
messages like we would on an old flip-style mobile phone, pressing
the buttons repeatedly to get certain characters on the screen. This
works, and provides a way to interact with other stations without
the need for a computer or other device connected to the radio.
I do not enable any automatic responses when I receive messages,
other than the ACK responses if I receive an APRS message that
expects one. Some will enable an automatic response that may say
something like "Thanks, 73!", and I think the Kenwood radios will
put an "AA:" before the response if it is generated by the radio and
not the operator. Other than my position packets, I try not to add to
the clutter from the unattended stations that squawk during every
ISS pass.
Whether I'm at home or on the road, using my Elk antenna or even
a long telescoping whip, I find I can get through the ISS digipeater
with my TH-D72A at just 5 watts. From Arizona, I have worked
stations on the ISS as far away as Wisconsin, Indiana, and east
Texas. On NO-44, I have worked stations from home as far as
Mississippi. I am also working stations at hamfests or other
demonstrations, and on my recent grid expeditions to Las Vegas
and New Mexico.
73!
Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/
Twitter: @xxxxxx
On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 2:15 PM, Sean Kutzko via AMSAT-BB
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> There needs to be an exchange of info and acknowledgement from both
stations that reports were received on both ends.
>
> Kx9x: CQ KX9X
> Kc0bmf: KX9X de KC0BMF EM29
> Kx9x: KC0BMF R FN31
> Kc0bmf: KX9X R 73
> Kx9x: 73 QRZ KX9X
>
> UISS software can handle this quite easily.
>
> That's my opinion, anyway.
>
> Sean KX9X
>
> Sent from Sean's iPad
>
>
>
>> On May 11, 2015, at 4:02 PM, John Fickes <kc0bmf@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>>
>> Steve
>> Sure you can. What are you using for software ? I use UISS and what I do
>> is send call sign, some sort of signal report (it could be 59,599,grid or
>> combination of report and grid ) and then a 73. I think as long as there
>> is protocol similar to JT65 where the three things are sent and received in
>> back and forth order, other stations call,a report and 73, this way your
>> pretty sure there is someone on the other end and your not just getting
>> someones automatic announcement. Hope to see you on.
>>
>> 73 John KC0BMF
>>
>> 1:16 Minutes:Greatest commercial EVER
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxU1ZhINaHk
>>
>> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 2:16 PM, Steve Kristoff <skristof@xxxxxxx.xxx>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I apologize if this has been dealt with in a previous thread, but if it
>>> was, I missed it.
>>> Can we do a valid QSO by ISS digipeater? It seems to me that a message
>>> directed from one station directly to another station with a callsign,
name
>>> and grid square and a directed reply in the same format would constitute a
>>> valid QSO.
>>> I'd like to hear other's thoughts.
>>> Even it doesn't constitute an "official" QSO, I'd like to try it anyway.
>>> I've been sending messages to specific stations on the Heard list via the
>>> UISS software, but have never received a reply specifically addressed to
me.
>>> If anyone is interested in doing that, I will probably be on Tuesday, May
>>> 12, around 1005 UTC and again around 1632 UTC.
>>>
>>> Steve Kristoff AI9IN
>>> EM79ji
>>> skristof@xxxxxxx.xxx
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
>>> expressed
>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>>> AMSAT-NA.
>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
Opinions expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> _______________________________________________
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> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
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Message: 15
Date: Mon, 11 May 2015 17:56:29 -0400
From: Robert Bruninga <bruninga@xxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxxx.xxxx amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Digi QSO via ISS? (use >)
Message-ID: <9cf168c7fe7746b89f042621586847d8@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
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If packet stations simply put a ">" as the first character of their packet
then they instantly become "APRS Sttus" messages and will show on the
front panel of ALL APRS radios and handhelds.
Without that, the packet is undefined and not displayed as being non-APRS.
So packet stations desiring to be seen by most of the others on ISS,
should remember that if they want to be seen by others begin with a">".
Bob, WB4APR
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From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On Behalf Of Patrick
STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2015 5:52 PM
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Digi QSO via ISS?
Sean (and others),
That looks good. The initial "CQ" call could start with receiving a
station's beacon containing the location or other text that is sent
through the ISS digipeater. Sometimes I'll see only a signal report from
the other station
(59 or 599), since the location has already been received from a beacon
packet with that information. This would be similar to sending only a "59"
when working a DXpedition, where they really don't care to hear too much
when making lots of QSOs. I don't normally send a CQ when on ISS passes
(or, when it's behaving, NO-44 passes), but will enable a beacon with my
position and my two call signs when I'm at the radio.
By using APRS messaging instead of just typing free-form text, you will be
able to make packet QSOs with stations that may only have radios like the
Kenwood TH-D72A or TM-D710 (or their predecessors), as well as those using
programs like UISS that speak APRS messaging, or simpler terminal programs
that don't speak APRS messaging. These radios can receive the APRS
messages, and - using the DTMF pads - send APRS messages. My TH-D72A will
see the call of a station that sends me a free-form line of text like:
WD9EWK-9 UR 599 (grid)
but not the text. I might be able to see this packet on ariss.net, but
that would not be receiving it on my radio, so no QSO. If that free-form
text line includes a colon before the text:
WD9EWK-9 :UR 599 (grid)
(my call with -9, space, colon, then text)
my TH-D72A would interpret that as an APRS message directed to me, from
whoever sent it to me. The sender's call and a date/time stamp would be
stored with the received message, and then I can view this message on the
HT. From there, I can quickly send a reply without having to enter the
other station's call. I'm typing out messages like we would on an old
flip-style mobile phone, pressing the buttons repeatedly to get certain
characters on the screen. This works, and provides a way to interact with
other stations without the need for a computer or other device connected
to the radio.
I do not enable any automatic responses when I receive messages, other
than the ACK responses if I receive an APRS message that expects one. Some
will enable an automatic response that may say something like "Thanks,
73!", and I think the Kenwood radios will put an "AA:" before the response
if it is generated by the radio and not the operator. Other than my
position packets, I try not to add to the clutter from the unattended
stations that squawk during every ISS pass.
Whether I'm at home or on the road, using my Elk antenna or even a long
telescoping whip, I find I can get through the ISS digipeater with my
TH-D72A at just 5 watts. From Arizona, I have worked stations on the ISS
as far away as Wisconsin, Indiana, and east Texas. On NO-44, I have worked
stations from home as far as Mississippi. I am also working stations at
hamfests or other demonstrations, and on my recent grid expeditions to Las
Vegas and New Mexico.
73!
Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/
Twitter: @xxxxxx
On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 2:15 PM, Sean Kutzko via AMSAT-BB
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> There needs to be an exchange of info and acknowledgement from both
stations that reports were received on both ends.
>
> Kx9x: CQ KX9X
> Kc0bmf: KX9X de KC0BMF EM29
> Kx9x: KC0BMF R FN31
> Kc0bmf: KX9X R 73
> Kx9x: 73 QRZ KX9X
>
> UISS software can handle this quite easily.
>
> That's my opinion, anyway.
>
> Sean KX9X
>
> Sent from Sean's iPad
>
>
>
>> On May 11, 2015, at 4:02 PM, John Fickes <kc0bmf@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>>
>> Steve
>> Sure you can. What are you using for software ? I use UISS and what
>> I do is send call sign, some sort of signal report (it could be
>> 59,599,grid or combination of report and grid ) and then a 73. I
>> think as long as there is protocol similar to JT65 where the three
>> things are sent and received in back and forth order, other stations
>> call,a report and 73, this way your pretty sure there is someone on
>> the other end and your not just getting someones automatic
announcement. Hope to see you on.
>>
>> 73 John KC0BMF
>>
>> 1:16 Minutes:Greatest commercial EVER
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxU1ZhINaHk
>>
>> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 2:16 PM, Steve Kristoff
>> <skristof@xxxxxxx.xxx>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I apologize if this has been dealt with in a previous thread, but if
>>> it was, I missed it.
>>> Can we do a valid QSO by ISS digipeater? It seems to me that a
>>> message directed from one station directly to another station with a
>>> callsign, name and grid square and a directed reply in the same
>>> format would constitute a valid QSO.
>>> I'd like to hear other's thoughts.
>>> Even it doesn't constitute an "official" QSO, I'd like to try it
anyway.
>>> I've been sending messages to specific stations on the Heard list
>>> via the UISS software, but have never received a reply specifically
addressed to me.
>>> If anyone is interested in doing that, I will probably be on
>>> Tuesday, May 12, around 1005 UTC and again around 1632 UTC.
>>>
>>> Steve Kristoff AI9IN
>>> EM79ji
>>> skristof@xxxxxxx.xxx
>>>
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