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Today's Topics:
1. PSK on NO-84, no joy (George Henry)
2. Re: PSK on NO-84, no joy (Scott)
3. ANS-083.02 AMSAT News Service Special Bulletin - AMSAT Office
Closed Until Further Notice (Paul Stoetzer)
4. Re: Poor Operators (k6vug@?????????.????
5. Re: Poor Operators (Roy Dean)
6. .The First Satellite Contact (May QST) (Ray Soifer)
7. Premature announcement (Ray Soifer)
8. LH or RH polarization (Dave J)
9. Re: LH or RH polarization (Doug Phelps)
10. Pcsat32 (Joe KD2NFC)
11. Re: Pcsat32 (Mark D. Johns)
12. Re: Pcsat32 (Mark D. Johns)
13. Re: Poor Operators (Brian Wilkins KO4AQF)
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2020 15:08:48 -0500
From: "George Henry" <ka3hsw@???.???>
To: <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] PSK on NO-84, no joy
Message-ID: <63A0BBB7AFA44A929B17986CD61B281E@???????????>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Not seeming to have any luck with PSK31 on NO-84... I am seeing and
decoding the beacon and other stations okay, but don't see my signal in the
waterfall. Using DopplerPSK for the uplink and FLdigi for the downlink.
I suspect that my meager 20 watts to a dipole isn't cutting it...
George, KA3HSW
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2020 16:31:41 -0400
From: Scott <scott23192@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] PSK on NO-84, no joy
Message-ID:
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Keep trying, George!
On this last pass, I saw another station pop up for a second but didn't
decode the call cleanly - bet that was you.
20 watts will definitely work depending on the characteristics of your
antenna. I experimented w/ 5 watts on my long wire and got into the
transponder just fine. However, to get a bit more range I run 35 or so
generally. I'm guessing that it helps that my antenna is so low to the
ground (~15 ft on average).
I know zero about the 10 meter band, but it never ceases to amaze me that a
long wire stretched across a heavily wooded yard can be heard by a
satellite only 10-15 degrees above the horizon. I'll bet your antenna &
power output will do fine depending on what direction the satellite is
coming from.
If I might add, I closely monitor the 'ALC' level on my FT-857d throughout
the pass. As the radio heats up, I have to make small adjustments to the
TX audio level from the Signalink to keep a bar or two showing on the ALC
meter. That's my feedback of what audio level I'm sending out, and there
is a CLEAR difference in my PSK31 signal on the downlink when I adjust the
TX audio to maintain an appropriate level.
-Scott, K4KDR
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On Mon, Mar 23, 2020 at 4:19 PM George Henry via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
> Not seeming to have any luck with PSK31 on NO-84... I am seeing and
> decoding the beacon and other stations okay, but don't see my signal in the
> waterfall. Using DopplerPSK for the uplink and FLdigi for the downlink.
>
> I suspect that my meager 20 watts to a dipole isn't cutting it...
>
> George, KA3HSW
>
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2020 16:54:40 -0400
From: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@????.???>
To: ans@?????.???? AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] ANS-083.02 AMSAT News Service Special Bulletin -
AMSAT Office Closed Until Further Notice
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AMSAT NEWS SERVICE SPECIAL BULLETIN
ANS-083.02
The AMSAT News Service bulletins are a free, weekly news and infor-
mation service of AMSAT North America, The Radio Amateur Satellite
Corporation. ANS publishes news related to Amateur Radio in Space
including reports on the activities of a worldwide group of Amateur
Radio operators who share an active interest in designing, building,
launching and communicating through analog and digital Amateur Radio
satellites.
The news feed on http://www.amsat.org publishes news of Amateur
Radio in Space as soon as our volunteers can post it.
Please send any amateur satellite news or reports to:
ans-editor at amsat.org.
You can sign up for free e-mail delivery of the AMSAT News Service
Bulletins via the ANS List; to join this list see:
http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/ans
In this edition:
* AMSAT Office Closed Until Further Notice
SB SAT @ AMSAT $ANS-083.02
ANS-083.02 AMSAT News Service Special Bulletin
AMSAT News Service Bulletin 083.02
From AMSAT HQ KENSINGTON, MD.
DATE March 23, 2020
To All RADIO AMATEURS
BID: $ANS-083.02
AMSAT Office Closed Until Further Notice
Due to Maryland Gov. Larry Hogan's order closing all non-essential
businesses in the State of Maryland in response to the COVID-19 pan-
demic, the AMSAT office is closed until further notice, effective to-
day at 5:00pm EDT.
While the office is closed, AMSAT will continue to accept new and
renewal memberships. However, membership packets will not be mailed
until the office reopens. T-shirts, hats, and other items stocked in
the office will also not be available until the office reopens. Dig-
ital downloadable content, including SatPC32 and MacDoppler will re-
main available from the AMSAT store. Antenna, name badge, and awards
orders will be forwarded for processing.
The March/April issue of The AMSAT Journal will be produced on time.
However, it may only be possible to publish it in digital format. Stay
tuned for further updates.
Any questions about memberships, orders, or office operations can be
sent to info at amsat.org. Please note that no mail or phone service
will be available until the office reopens. Vendors billing AMSAT for
goods or services may email the above address to arrange payment.
[ANS thanks the AMSAT office for the above information]
In addition to regular membership, AMSAT offers membership in the
President's Club. Members of the President's Club, as sustaining
donors to AMSAT Project Funds, will be eligible to receive addi-
tional benefits. Application forms are available from the AMSAT
Office.
73 and Remember to help Keep Amateur Radio in Space,
This week's ANS Contributing Editor,
Paul Stoetzer, N8HM
n8hm at amsat dot org
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2020 05:19:45 +0000 (UTC)
From: "k6vug@?????????.???? <k6vug@?????????.???>
To: AMSAT <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Poor Operators
Message-ID: <693452138.709138.1585027185982@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Sorry I'm late to the discussion, while we talk of improper operating
procedures, a couple of things come to mind -
- problem #1 is that there are several old publications (and web pages) say
that FM birds can be worked in simplex.? I wish these publications would
explicitly prohibit simplex operation on busy passes.?
?
- problem #2 is about reducing congestion. It was discussed at length right
here last year or so, and the bottom line was to never work a station if you
have already worked them before.? Let others get a chance.?
?
People will follow whatever is published.?
Change the publications, change the behavior.?
?
?
73!
Umesh, K6VUG
?
?
?
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2020 08:14:03 -0400
From: Roy Dean <royldean@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Poor Operators
Message-ID:
<CADGPg2txHx6koumnX_V70b5HgFZxurhKAEraEKUAw8uFLpDvcQ@????.?????.???>
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>
> - problem #2 is about reducing congestion. It was discussed at length
> right here last year or so, and the bottom line was to never work a station
> if you have already worked them before. Let others get a chance.
"Never" is a powerful word. There are plenty of passes that I've worked
in the past in which the only operators on the pass are ones that I've
worked plenty of times before. Weekday morning passes are typical
examples. I would suggest leaving this rule out, or at least modifying it
appropriately (however I think Sean's published work already suggests good
operating habits that cover this).
--Roy
K3RLD
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2020 15:26:54 +0000 (UTC)
From: Ray Soifer <rsoifer1@???.???>
To: satcoord-i@????.???? amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] .The First Satellite Contact (May QST)
Message-ID: <1439481639.1248299.1585063614656@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Those of you who are ARRL members may be interested in my Technical
Correspondence article in May 2020 QST, entitled "The 60th Anniversary of
the First Satellite Contact."
The contact to which it refers took place on February 6, 1960, six months
before NASA's Project Echo, between myself and K3JTE (now W3PK), making use
of a propagation mode first reported by W8JK (SK), which he called "the
satellite ionization phenomenon."
My May 2020 QST article describes what we did and what has been learned
since then about the ionosphere and how W8JK's mechanism works. ?
?
For further reading about our contact, see my article in Proceedings of the
Institute of Radio Engineers, September 1961.? For more about the satellite
ionization phenomenon, see the chapter by W8JK in S.F. Singer, ed.,
Interactions of Space Vehicles With an Ionized Atmosphere, Pergamon Press,
1965.
73 Ray W2RS
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2020 15:31:29 +0000 (UTC)
From: Ray Soifer <rsoifer1@???.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???? satcoord-i@????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] Premature announcement
Message-ID: <791946322.1263360.1585063889386@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Sorry that my last email was sent out prematurely.? May QST won't be out for
two more weeks or so.
73 Ray W2RS
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2020 11:26:08 -0500
From: "Dave J" <ddjulian54@?????.???>
To: <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] LH or RH polarization
Message-ID: <5910879F5FDB4ADA80879EC57B5AA196@??????>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Hello All
My 2 meter M2 polarization switch died (water-logged) but I still have the
old fixed polarization element. I now have the option of setting it up fixed
either LH or RH. Which would be the better way to go given the current crop
of birds?
Thanks
Dave WB9YIG
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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2020 16:56:44 +0000
From: Doug Phelps <DougPhelps@??????????.???>
To: ddjulian54@?????.???? amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] LH or RH polarization
Message-ID:
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I do not think it matters because all the birds right now are linear
polarized. But if I had to make a choice I would go right hand.
-------- Original Message --------
On Mar 24, 2020, 11:26 AM, Dave J via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> Hello All
>
> My 2 meter M2 polarization switch died (water-logged) but I still have the
> old fixed polarization element. I now have the option of setting it up fixed
> either LH or RH. Which would be the better way to go given the current crop
> of birds?
>
> Thanks
>
> Dave WB9YIG
>
> _______________________________________________
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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2020 19:00:53 -0400
From: Joe KD2NFC <kd2nfc@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] Pcsat32
Message-ID: <5F4C26E0-9B92-45E9-96BC-123E260F43CD@?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Hi,
I just paid for AMSAT membership and purchased a license to pcsat32. As I?m
learning we need to make entries in the Doppler.SQF and possible
AmsatNames.txt.
I was able to find DK3WN?s blog that had a comprehensive listing of the
satellites and their frequencies.
Is there a good resource I can go to go that will give me a current list of
all AMSAT satellites and others with their frequencies.
I think with what I found is pretty details but I do see that there various
files floating around crates by different hams.
I know AMSAT offices are now closed so I don?t know the ETA of my license
key, but no rush under the circumstances.
Joe
KD2NFC
Sent from my iPhone
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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2020 18:26:06 -0500
From: "Mark D. Johns" <mjohns+K0JM@??????.???>
To: Joe KD2NFC <kd2nfc@?????.???>
Cc: AMSAT <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Pcsat32
Message-ID:
<CAHKCqnDjQeeyEKchB4_hSfuoiddnXcr-Mk1m105F0P6+z9C4HA@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
See https://www.amsat.org/two-way-satellites/
--
Mark D. Johns, K?JM
AMSAT Ambassador & News Service Editor
Brooklyn Park, MN USA EN35hd
-----------------------------------------------
"Heaven goes by favor; if it went by merit,
you would stay out and your dog would go in."
---Mark Twain
On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 6:01 PM Joe KD2NFC via AMSAT-BB
<amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I just paid for AMSAT membership and purchased a license to pcsat32. As
I?m learning we need to make entries in the Doppler.SQF and possible
AmsatNames.txt.
>
> I was able to find DK3WN?s blog that had a comprehensive listing of the
satellites and their frequencies.
>
> Is there a good resource I can go to go that will give me a current list
of all AMSAT satellites and others with their frequencies.
>
> I think with what I found is pretty details but I do see that there
various files floating around crates by different hams.
>
> I know AMSAT offices are now closed so I don?t know the ETA of my license
key, but no rush under the circumstances.
>
> Joe
> KD2NFC
>
> Sent from my iPhone
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2020 18:27:35 -0500
From: "Mark D. Johns" <mjohns+K0JM@??????.???>
To: Joe KD2NFC <kd2nfc@?????.???>
Cc: AMSAT <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Pcsat32
Message-ID:
<CAHKCqnDhkGpmEE0d8tG4Aoq11gUJiD3FuUB0cHpGAOmNQcA0cw@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
Also see https://www.amsat.org/doppler-sqf-line-generator/
--
Mark D. Johns, K?JM
AMSAT Ambassador & News Service Editor
Brooklyn Park, MN USA EN35hd
-----------------------------------------------
"Heaven goes by favor; if it went by merit,
you would stay out and your dog would go in."
---Mark Twain
On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 6:01 PM Joe KD2NFC via AMSAT-BB
<amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I just paid for AMSAT membership and purchased a license to pcsat32. As
I?m learning we need to make entries in the Doppler.SQF and possible
AmsatNames.txt.
>
> I was able to find DK3WN?s blog that had a comprehensive listing of the
satellites and their frequencies.
>
> Is there a good resource I can go to go that will give me a current list
of all AMSAT satellites and others with their frequencies.
>
> I think with what I found is pretty details but I do see that there
various files floating around crates by different hams.
>
> I know AMSAT offices are now closed so I don?t know the ETA of my license
key, but no rush under the circumstances.
>
> Joe
> KD2NFC
>
> Sent from my iPhone
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
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Message: 13
Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2020 19:39:47 -0400
From: Brian Wilkins KO4AQF <bwilkins@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Poor Operators
Message-ID:
<CAO_Eq30mvX7HRDWCpF8uXrqx=fCRteKOjRBCio09x_bL_GSN5Q@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
I would not make this one a rule either especially since some rove to
multiple grids. It has to be handled by the operator on a case by case
basis. Also the called operator does not have to respond either if this is
a problem.
Brian Wilkins
KO4AQF
On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 8:16 AM Roy Dean via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
wrote:
> >
> > - problem #2 is about reducing congestion. It was discussed at length
> > right here last year or so, and the bottom line was to never work a
> station
> > if you have already worked them before. Let others get a chance.
>
>
> "Never" is a powerful word. There are plenty of passes that I've worked
> in the past in which the only operators on the pass are ones that I've
> worked plenty of times before. Weekday morning passes are typical
> examples. I would suggest leaving this rule out, or at least modifying it
> appropriately (however I think Sean's published work already suggests good
> operating habits that cover this).
>
> --Roy
> K3RLD
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
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