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Today's Topics:
1. Re: XW-2D (Peter Budnik)
2. Re: what is a good contact? (Ron VE8RT)
3. Re: XW-2D (Ron VE8RT)
4. Re: what is a good contact? (Sean K.)
5. Re: what is a good contact? (Sean K.)
6. Re: what is a good contact? (Ron VE8RT)
7. Re: what is a good contact? (Robert Bruninga)
8. 4/11 14:30z AO-92 (Roy Dean)
9. Re: 4/11 14:30z AO-92 (nathanjwhite)
10. Re: what is a good contact? (Sean K.)
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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2020 08:46:38 -0400
From: Peter Budnik <kb1hy2@???????.???>
To: kb2m@????.???? Jeff <kb2mjeff@???.???>
Cc: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] XW-2D
Message-ID: <58173A7B-2E02-4316-86A3-E6BA1908FA1A@???????.???>
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A pass last night sounded the same. Only get a few symbols through then off
again.
Sent from my iPhone
> On Apr 10, 2020, at 7:29 AM, Jeff via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>
> ?XW-2D is broke again. Sounds like it?s in meteor scatter mode ?
>
>
>
> 73 Jeff kb2m
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2020 07:13:42 -0600
From: Ron VE8RT <ve8rt@?????.??>
To: Sean Kutzko <kx9x@?????.???>
Cc: Sean Kutzko via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>, Roy Dean
<royldean@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] what is a good contact?
Message-ID: <20200411071342.c00693abe3268cace53d7f12@?????.??>
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I'm going to try to drag this discussion a little sideways. That of
using a recording to get, refine, or verify when in doubt, information
after the contact. In the examples the grid square is read back and
acknowledged, sometimes the congestion (on the FM satellites
especially) makes that hard to do live, so having a recording helps.
It is more than a memory or logging aid, its an additional layer of
processing not available at the time of the (confirmed or attempted)
contact. If there is mayhem on the satellite and I have confidence in
the quality of my audio recording (I'm looking into a better recorder)
I'll look over my own known read back faults (I can't sing either as I
tend to skip bits and jump ahead - neurologically atypical no doubt).
Carrying this further then, maybe I should ask if it isn't possible
to due to the congestion on a pass, should I stop trying to work
stations on that pass?
Ron VE8RT DP22
On Fri, 10 Apr 2020 22:19:36 -0500
Sean Kutzko via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
> During my time at ARRL, I came to understand that it?s not just the
exchange of information that makes a contact ?legitimate,? it?s
acknowledgement of that exchange by both parties. Here?s an example:
>
> KX9X: CQ Satellite, KX9X
> W1AW: KX9X this is W1AW
> KX9X: W1AW, thanks, EN50
> W1AW: QSL, FN31
> KX9X: QSL, Thanks. QRZ KX9X
>
> That final acknowledgment by KX9X is the same final step found in meteor
scatter and EME QSOs; both stations not only report info, but acknowledge
receiving the other station?s report. That?s what makes the contact ?good.?
>
> Sent from the iPhone of Sean, KX9X
>
> > On Apr 10, 2020, at 7:42 PM, Roy Dean via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
wrote:
> >
> > ?
> >>
> >>
> >> Grid squares are required, is there an alternative other than RST?
> >> Ron VE8RT
> >
> >
> > I think all you need to do is exchange ANY type of information (other than
> > your callsign, of course - which IS mandatory).
> >
> > So, grid, first name, occupation, what you had for dinner, etc. I
believe
> > most people use grids because then you are also elligible for all the
> > awards that go with grid collection.
> >
> > I also believe that using a recording (that you actually made yourself on
> > the pass) is totally legit. Using a recording from a satnogs station 500
> > miles away - not so much. I'm not a grid-chaser, per se - so I'm sure
> > somebody else will give you the official position on both questions.
> >
> > --Roy
> > K3RLD
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
Opinions expressed
> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
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Ron VE8RT <ve8rt@?????.??>
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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2020 07:17:02 -0600
From: Ron VE8RT <ve8rt@?????.??>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] XW-2D
Message-ID: <20200411071702.8f5d5c8592d0f9bee4ace140@?????.??>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
I suppose it could be treated like MS, if there is a regular interval
and fixed length of the on periods try getting through with bursts of
data or fast CW.
Even better, maybe it can be fixed or reset by a ground station.
Ron VE8RT
On Sat, 11 Apr 2020 08:46:38 -0400
Peter Budnik via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
> A pass last night sounded the same. Only get a few symbols through then
off again.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Apr 10, 2020, at 7:29 AM, Jeff via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
> >
> > ?XW-2D is broke again. Sounds like it?s in meteor scatter mode ?
> >
> >
> >
> > 73 Jeff kb2m
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
Opinions expressed
> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
> _______________________________________________
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> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2020 13:18:08 +0000 (UTC)
From: "Sean K." <kx9x@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???? Steve Kristoff <skristof@???????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] what is a good contact?
Message-ID: <1367618564.4121132.1586611088989@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
There are linear satellites as well, Steve.
Sean Kutzko Amateur Radio KX9XAMSAT Volunteer
Coordinatorhttps://amsat.org/volunteer
On Saturday, April 11, 2020, 06:51:24 AM CDT, Steve Kristoff via
AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
Opening with "CQ Satellite" is not really a recommended practice.
This: "On the FM satellites, it is not necessary to call CQ as on HF." is
cut-and-paste from
here:?https://www.amsat.org/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/Work_FM_Sats-
20131010.pdf
Sean, your own paper on the AMSAT website says this:?
" Don?t Call CQ - Please don?t call ?CQ Satellite? on an FM satellite".
That's cut-and-paste from
here:?https://www.amsat.org/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/FM-Satellites
-Best-Practices.pdf
To Roy and any interested others, I highly recommend the materials at both
of these links as excellent tips and practices for satellite operation. Note
that they are geared towards the FM satellites.
Steve AI9IN
Grid EM79ji
Oldenburg IN
----- Original Message -----
From: Sean Kutzko via AMSAT-BB (amsat-bb@?????.????
Date: 04/10/20 23:24
To: Roy Dean (royldean@?????.????
Cc: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] what is a good contact?
During my time at ARRL, I came to understand that it?s not just the exchange
of information that makes a contact ?legitimate,? it?s acknowledgement of
that exchange by both parties. Here?s an example:
KX9X: CQ Satellite, KX9X
W1AW: KX9X this is W1AW
KX9X: W1AW, thanks, EN50
W1AW: QSL, FN31
KX9X: QSL, Thanks. QRZ KX9X
That final acknowledgment by KX9X is the same final step found in meteor
scatter and EME QSOs; both stations not only report info, but acknowledge
receiving the other station?s report. That?s what makes the contact ?good.?
Sent from the iPhone of Sean, KX9X
> On Apr 10, 2020, at 7:42 PM, Roy Dean via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
wrote:
>
> ?
>>
>>
>> ?Grid squares are required, is there an alternative other than RST?
>> ? Ron VE8RT
>
>
_______________________________________________
Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2020 13:27:16 +0000 (UTC)
From: "Sean K." <kx9x@?????.???>
To: Ron VE8RT <ve8rt@?????.??>
Cc: Sean Kutzko via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>, Roy Dean
<royldean@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] what is a good contact?
Message-ID: <141804769.4104721.1586611636192@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
I have no issue with recording a pass. I do so regularly, and out of
practicality: as a portable operator, I have one hand holding my antenna and
the other adjusting my VFO to correct for Doppler.?
I use my recorder as mu log. But I also use it to help me verify my
contacts. If I don't complete a QSO with both parties saying "yes, I heard
your info," it's not a valid contact to me.
Sean Kutzko Amateur Radio KX9XAMSAT Volunteer
Coordinatorhttps://amsat.org/volunteer
On Saturday, April 11, 2020, 08:13:49 AM CDT, Ron VE8RT <ve8rt@?????.??>
wrote:
? I'm going to try to drag this discussion a little sideways.? That of
using a recording to get, refine, or verify when in doubt, information
after the contact.? In the examples the grid square is read back and
acknowledged, sometimes the congestion (on the FM satellites
especially) makes that hard to do live, so having a recording helps.
It is more than a memory or logging aid, its an additional layer of
processing not available at the time of the (confirmed or attempted)
contact.? If there is mayhem on the satellite and I have confidence in
the quality of my audio recording (I'm looking into a better recorder)
I'll look over my own known read back faults (I can't sing either as I
tend to skip bits and jump ahead - neurologically atypical no doubt).
? Carrying this further then, maybe I should ask if it isn't possible
to due to the congestion on a pass, should I stop trying to work
stations on that pass?
? ? ? Ron VE8RT? DP22
On Fri, 10 Apr 2020 22:19:36 -0500
Sean Kutzko via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
> During my time at ARRL, I came to understand that it?s not just the
exchange of information that makes a contact ?legitimate,? it?s
acknowledgement of that exchange by both parties. Here?s an example:
>
> KX9X: CQ Satellite, KX9X
> W1AW: KX9X this is W1AW
> KX9X: W1AW, thanks, EN50
> W1AW: QSL, FN31
> KX9X: QSL, Thanks. QRZ KX9X
>
> That final acknowledgment by KX9X is the same final step found in meteor
scatter and EME QSOs; both stations not only report info, but acknowledge
receiving the other station?s report. That?s what makes the contact ?good.?
>
> Sent from the iPhone of Sean, KX9X
>
> > On Apr 10, 2020, at 7:42 PM, Roy Dean via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
wrote:
> >
> > ?
> >>
> >>
> >>? Grid squares are required, is there an alternative other than RST?
> >>? Ron VE8RT
> >
> >
> > I think all you need to do is exchange ANY type of information (other than
> > your callsign, of course - which IS mandatory).
> >
> > So, grid, first name, occupation, what you had for dinner, etc.? I believe
> > most people use grids because then you are also elligible for all the
> > awards that go with grid collection.
> >
> > I also believe that using a recording (that you actually made yourself on
> > the pass) is totally legit.? Using a recording from a satnogs station 500
> > miles away - not so much.? I'm not a grid-chaser, per se - so I'm sure
> > somebody else will give you the official position on both questions.
> >
> > --Roy
> > K3RLD
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
Opinions expressed
> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
--
Ron VE8RT <ve8rt@?????.??>
------------------------------
Message: 6
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2020 07:39:13 -0600
From: Ron VE8RT <ve8rt@?????.??>
To: "Sean K." <kx9x@?????.???>
Cc: Sean Kutzko via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>, Roy Dean
<royldean@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] what is a good contact?
Message-ID: <20200411073913.3b0bc3ca5d9fd75be4b502bd@?????.??>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Thank you Sean,
I can, and will, work with this. As I can have the mental equivalent
of stuttering, I know what I want to say but it comes out wrong -
usually skips ahead leaving out or substituting information, I didn't
feel that my shortcoming was fair to the other station(s).
Ron VE8RT
On Sat, 11 Apr 2020 13:27:16 +0000 (UTC)
"Sean K." <kx9x@?????.???> wrote:
> I have no issue with recording a pass. I do so regularly, and out of
practicality: as a portable operator, I have one hand holding my antenna and
the other adjusting my VFO to correct for Doppler.?
> I use my recorder as mu log. But I also use it to help me verify my
contacts. If I don't complete a QSO with both parties saying "yes, I heard
your info," it's not a valid contact to me.
> Sean Kutzko Amateur Radio KX9XAMSAT Volunteer
Coordinatorhttps://amsat.org/volunteer
>
> On Saturday, April 11, 2020, 08:13:49 AM CDT, Ron VE8RT
<ve8rt@?????.??> wrote:
>
> ? I'm going to try to drag this discussion a little sideways.? That of
> using a recording to get, refine, or verify when in doubt, information
> after the contact.? In the examples the grid square is read back and
> acknowledged, sometimes the congestion (on the FM satellites
> especially) makes that hard to do live, so having a recording helps.
> It is more than a memory or logging aid, its an additional layer of
> processing not available at the time of the (confirmed or attempted)
> contact.? If there is mayhem on the satellite and I have confidence in
> the quality of my audio recording (I'm looking into a better recorder)
> I'll look over my own known read back faults (I can't sing either as I
> tend to skip bits and jump ahead - neurologically atypical no doubt).
>
> ? Carrying this further then, maybe I should ask if it isn't possible
> to due to the congestion on a pass, should I stop trying to work
> stations on that pass?
>
> ? ? ? Ron VE8RT? DP22
>
> On Fri, 10 Apr 2020 22:19:36 -0500
> Sean Kutzko via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>
> > During my time at ARRL, I came to understand that it?s not just the
exchange of information that makes a contact ?legitimate,? it?s
acknowledgement of that exchange by both parties. Here?s an example:
> >
> > KX9X: CQ Satellite, KX9X
> > W1AW: KX9X this is W1AW
> > KX9X: W1AW, thanks, EN50
> > W1AW: QSL, FN31
> > KX9X: QSL, Thanks. QRZ KX9X
> >
> > That final acknowledgment by KX9X is the same final step found in meteor
scatter and EME QSOs; both stations not only report info, but acknowledge
receiving the other station?s report. That?s what makes the contact ?good.?
> >
> > Sent from the iPhone of Sean, KX9X
> >
> > > On Apr 10, 2020, at 7:42 PM, Roy Dean via AMSAT-BB
<amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
> > >
> > > ?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>? Grid squares are required, is there an alternative other than RST?
> > >>? Ron VE8RT
> > >
> > >
> > > I think all you need to do is exchange ANY type of information (other
than
> > > your callsign, of course - which IS mandatory).
> > >
> > > So, grid, first name, occupation, what you had for dinner, etc.? I
believe
> > > most people use grids because then you are also elligible for all the
> > > awards that go with grid collection.
> > >
> > > I also believe that using a recording (that you actually made yourself
on
> > > the pass) is totally legit.? Using a recording from a satnogs station
500
> > > miles away - not so much.? I'm not a grid-chaser, per se - so I'm sure
> > > somebody else will give you the official position on both questions.
> > >
> > > --Roy
> > > K3RLD
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
Opinions expressed
> > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
of AMSAT-NA.
> > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
program!
> > > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
Opinions expressed
> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
>
> --
> Ron VE8RT <ve8rt@?????.??>
>
--
Ron VE8RT <ve8rt@?????.??>
------------------------------
Message: 7
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2020 10:12:05 -0400
From: Robert Bruninga <bruninga@????.???>
To: Sean Kutzko <kx9x@?????.???>
Cc: amsat bb <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] what is a good contact?
Message-ID:
<CALdCfNLHS_gf6g=nBBjG7PaeLaQwqgjue2ZLDqXBWbmYsyxKyA@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
Cannot this be done more efficiently in only 4 transmissions instead of 5?
KX9X: CQ Satellite, KX9X
W1AW: KX9X this is W1AW FN41
KX9X: W1AW, QSL, EN50
W1AW: QSL, Thanks
On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 11:19 PM Sean Kutzko via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
> During my time at ARRL, I came to understand that it?s not just the
> exchange of information that makes a contact ?legitimate,? it?s
> acknowledgement of that exchange by both parties. Here?s an example:
>
> KX9X: CQ Satellite, KX9X
> W1AW: KX9X this is W1AW
> KX9X: W1AW, thanks, EN50
> W1AW: QSL, FN31
> KX9X: QSL, Thanks. QRZ KX9X
>
> That final acknowledgment by KX9X is the same final step found in meteor
> scatter and EME QSOs; both stations not only report info, but acknowledge
> receiving the other station?s report. That?s what makes the contact ?good.?
>
> Sent from the iPhone of Sean, KX9X
>
> > On Apr 10, 2020, at 7:42 PM, Roy Dean via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
> wrote:
> >
> > ?
> >>
> >>
> >> Grid squares are required, is there an alternative other than RST?
> >> Ron VE8RT
> >
> >
> > I think all you need to do is exchange ANY type of information (other
> than
> > your callsign, of course - which IS mandatory).
> >
> > So, grid, first name, occupation, what you had for dinner, etc. I
> believe
> > most people use grids because then you are also elligible for all the
> > awards that go with grid collection.
> >
> > I also believe that using a recording (that you actually made yourself on
> > the pass) is totally legit. Using a recording from a satnogs station
> 500
> > miles away - not so much. I'm not a grid-chaser, per se - so I'm sure
> > somebody else will give you the official position on both questions.
> >
> > --Roy
> > K3RLD
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions expressed
> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
> > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2020 10:38:59 -0400
From: Roy Dean <royldean@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] 4/11 14:30z AO-92
Message-ID:
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
To those in the northeast, it appears that somebody might be setting up a
repeater on the 70cm uplink frequency of AO-92 (at least that's what it
sounded like). I got one call sign (from NH), but there is no email
address shown on QRZ to inquire about it. Might want to keep this in mind
when operating the early passes on AO-92.
--Roy
K3RLD
------------------------------
Message: 9
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2020 14:43:44 +0000 (UTC)
From: nathanjwhite <nathanjwhite@????????.???>
To: Roy Dean <royldean@?????.???>, <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] 4/11 14:30z AO-92
Message-ID: <2067589991.4282919.1586616224922@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Roy,?I heard that traffic too. Did you Google the call sign in question?
Sometimes doing so will pull up call signs that QRZ has missed
NateN5LEX
On Saturday, April 11, 2020, 10:38 AM, Roy Dean via AMSAT-BB
<amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
To those in the northeast, it appears that somebody might be setting up a
repeater on the 70cm uplink frequency of AO-92 (at least that's what it
sounded like).? I got one call sign (from NH), but there is no email
address shown on QRZ to inquire about it.? Might want to keep this in mind
when operating the early passes on AO-92.
--Roy
K3RLD
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Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2020 14:46:41 +0000 (UTC)
From: "Sean K." <kx9x@?????.???>
To: Robert Bruninga <bruninga@????.???>
Cc: amsat bb <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] what is a good contact?
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I generally prefer not to give out my info until I've been acknowledged by
the other station. I've done it, but it doesn't always work well. Personal
preference.
But yes, your suggestion would work and possibly be more efficient, unless
there is QRM or other interference during the initial exchange, which could
lead to repeats or fills. But that could happen at any point in the QSO.
Sean Kutzko Amateur Radio KX9XAMSAT Volunteer
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On Saturday, April 11, 2020, 09:14:52 AM CDT, Robert Bruninga via
AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
Cannot this be done more efficiently in only 4 transmissions instead of 5?
KX9X: CQ Satellite, KX9X
W1AW: KX9X this is W1AW FN41
KX9X: W1AW, QSL, EN50
W1AW: QSL, Thanks
On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 11:19 PM Sean Kutzko via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
> During my time at ARRL, I came to understand that it?s not just the
> exchange of information that makes a contact ?legitimate,? it?s
> acknowledgement of that exchange by both parties. Here?s an example:
>
> KX9X: CQ Satellite, KX9X
> W1AW: KX9X this is W1AW
> KX9X: W1AW, thanks, EN50
> W1AW: QSL, FN31
> KX9X: QSL, Thanks. QRZ KX9X
>
> That final acknowledgment by KX9X is the same final step found in meteor
> scatter and EME QSOs; both stations not only report info, but acknowledge
> receiving the other station?s report. That?s what makes the contact ?good.?
>
> Sent from the iPhone of Sean, KX9X
>
> > On Apr 10, 2020, at 7:42 PM, Roy Dean via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
> wrote:
> >
> > ?
> >>
> >>
> >>? Grid squares are required, is there an alternative other than RST?
> >>? Ron VE8RT
> >
> >
> > I think all you need to do is exchange ANY type of information (other
> than
> > your callsign, of course - which IS mandatory).
> >
> > So, grid, first name, occupation, what you had for dinner, etc.? I
> believe
> > most people use grids because then you are also elligible for all the
> > awards that go with grid collection.
> >
> > I also believe that using a recording (that you actually made yourself on
> > the pass) is totally legit.? Using a recording from a satnogs station
> 500
> > miles away - not so much.? I'm not a grid-chaser, per se - so I'm sure
> > somebody else will give you the official position on both questions.
> >
> > --Roy
> > K3RLD
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