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Today's Topics:
1. Re: what is a good contact? (Bob Liddy (K8BL))
2. Re: Good Contact??? (Bob Liddy (K8BL))
3. Re: SATpc32 -- doppler.sqf Editor (Michael Walker)
4. Re: Cheap 10W solar panels (Zach Metzinger)
5. Re: SATpc32 -- doppler.sqf Editor (Mike Diehl)
6. Re: SATpc32 -- doppler.sqf Editor (Thomas Schaefer)
7. SATpc32 -- Limit satellites to active ones? (Thomas Schaefer)
8. Re: SATpc32 -- doppler.sqf Editor (John Brier)
9. Re: SATpc32 -- doppler.sqf Editor (Devin L. Ganger)
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2020 20:42:21 +0000 (UTC)
From: "Bob Liddy (K8BL)" <k8bl@?????????.???>
To: John Brier <johnbrier@?????.???>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] what is a good contact?
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Hi John,
I'm sure the FCC has no interest in what a QSO is as long as a
transmittingstation properly ID's.
Various Ham Organizations have their own rules for what they consider a
validQSO, mainly for Awards/Contests/Records. Anyone using a made-up means
tocreate QSOs really cheapens things for everyone. Someone cheating for
thingslike that brings down the value of them to zero!
GL/73,? ?Bob? K8BL
On Monday, April 13, 2020, 03:26:10 PM EDT, John Brier
<johnbrier@?????.???> wrote:
Bob this is how I do it.
The only exception is occasionally if I get tongue tied and can't spit out
their call right I will sometimes say "got it on the recording" and still
count it. I prefer not to but have done it and others also do it.
If someone doesn't agree with that my defense is I am dyslexic so give me a
break. ;-)
This thread has reminded me that, afaik, the FCC rules don't define a
contact, so as someone else said, it really depends on what you and the
other station agree on. Contests or other awards may specify and for that
you have to do what their rules are, obviously.
73, John Brier
On Sun, Apr 12, 2020, 16:51 Bob Liddy (K8BL) via AMSAT-BB
<amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
I've been Roving for quite a few years. It takes a lot of time and effort
and $$$ to activate some of the Grids I've been to. My joy is to give out
Grids to those who need them. It's all done gladly and willingly.
This is what I consider a "Good Contact".?
1 - I set up and wait for the Pass and announce my Call/Grid when I hear
myself.
2 - A station calls me with My Call and Their Call.
3 - I respond to them with Their Call & My Call/Grid
4 - That's a "Good Contact" - they heard me & responded, I heard them &
responded
5 - Contact logged, next station calls.
The Pass is copied on my Sony ICD-BX140 Digital Recorder via a mini-mic
placed in one side of my headphones which catches both sides of the QSO. Then,
when I return to where I'm staying, I transcribe the QSOs for uploading to
LoTW. If there is doubt with a Call, I'll listen to the recording again to
verify.
This has worked very well for me for over 125 different Grid activations and
many several times as I travel. I don't recall any complaints, however, they
would
all be handled appropriately(!).
GL/73,? ? Bob? K8BL? ? ? ? ? ? ?(AMSAT #6593, since 1979)
P.S. The Digital Recorder can be seen in a pic on my QRZ Page.
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2020 21:02:36 +0000 (UTC)
From: "Bob Liddy (K8BL)" <k8bl@?????????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???? Brad Smith <corlissbs@???.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Good Contact???
Message-ID: <1094609874.5156474.1586811756535@????.?????.???>
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Brad,
Make sure you have your FCC License with you when roving. Police maywant to
see it since it would make them feel better that they "Checked you
out."Also, saying that you are testing/verifying the ability to conduct
emergencycommunications in case of a disaster might be helpful (and truthful).
I've been accused of tracking animals several times. HIHI? Check out my
QRZPage for a story.
73,? ? ?Bob? K8BL
On Monday, April 13, 2020, 03:51:07 PM EDT, Brad Smith via AMSAT-BB
<amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
<2 - A station calls me with My Call and Their Call.3 - I respond to them
with Their Call & My Call/Grid>
Since I am always operating handheld or portable, whether at my QTH, or
roving, I cannot write the call down as it is being said, as both of my
hands happen to be employed at the moment. Since a rover usually gives his
grid, at least every few calls, I may say "Grid CM94, My Call" for example
and the rover usually comes back at me and I appreciate that and I will then
give my call and grid. Sometimes that is the best that can be done. I get
his call when he comes back to me. I also record every pass on my iPhone. My
memory isn't geed enough to remember 5 calls (or more, if I am roving) that
I just worked, along with the activities of pointing an antenna and manually
adjusting Doppler, so I rely on my recording. I know it is difficult to
understand, but working portable is a lot different than sitting in front of
an SDR computer screen in one's shack, with a 9700 with a speaker system and
elevating and rotating, computer controlled yagi antennas. Some of us are
doing this under not-so
-ideal conditions. I have worked with my Arrow in the rain and in a
snowstorm, several times without gloves, with noisy trucks going by and
people asking me what I am doing,while trying to work. I have been asked if
I am tracking animals and once as I was setting up, someone threatened to
call the police. (I offered to let him use my phone, and I have Amateur
Radio plates on my vehicles.) So, please cut some of us a little slack, if
we are not operating exactly by "the book." Also, getting stepped on by the
rude, big guns will eradicate part of the call. (Big guns are certainly more
important than little portables.) If it is his/her call that gets stepped
on, I can pick it up as he/she makes more contacts. If it is my call, I will
email him/her to verify what my call is and make sure the contact is
correct. Many times the person will thank me because he was missing one
letter. Brad KC9UQR
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2020 17:07:46 -0400
From: Michael Walker <va3mw@??????????.???>
To: John Brier <johnbrier@?????.???>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] SATpc32 -- doppler.sqf Editor
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I would love a purged list of only active birds.
What I will do is compare my list to those on Amsat's pages. If something
comes back from the dead, it is easy enough to add.
Mike va3mw
On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 4:40 PM John Brier via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
wrote:
> I would prefer them to stay as it is a good reference for historical
> reasons.
>
> Maybe put dead ones all at the bottom of the file or under a different
> section of the file.
>
> 73, John Brier KG4AKV
>
> On Mon, Apr 13, 2020, 16:24 Jim Walls via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
> wrote:
>
> > On 04/13/2020 12:43, Thomas Schaefer via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> > > A related question?Is there some reason we need to carry old, no longer
> > in-use, satellites in these files? The
> > > Doppler.sql file is full of satellites one cannot possibly use anymore.
> > Same question about the lists in general. Can one filter the lists so
> > adding AO-51 for example to tracking is never even an option ?as in one
> > never even sees it.
> > >
> > Well, for one thing, dead satellites sometimes come back from the dead.
> > AO-7 comes to mind - and yes, I was on the first US pass after it was
> > confirmed to be alive after 21 years of silence.
> >
> > --
> > 73
> > -------------------------------------
> > Jim Walls - K6CCC
> > jim@?????.???
> > Ofc: 818-548-4804
> > http://members.dslextreme.com/users/k6ccc/
> > AMSAT Member 32537 - WSWSS Member 395
> >
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2020 16:10:38 -0500
From: Zach Metzinger <zmetzing@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Cheap 10W solar panels
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On 04/13/20 15:35, Zach Metzinger via AMSAT-BB wrote:
>> They are selling?these for $5.00/ea with a minimum quantity of 20 pcs.
>> Currently listed on ebay for $25.00 ea.
>
> Note that this is $2/watt, far more expensive than other offerings.
*sigh* This is why I'm not a mathematics professor.
I retract my previous statement regarding these $0.50/watt panels. They
are a good price.
--- Zach
N0ZGO
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2020 17:31:56 -0400
From: Mike Diehl <diehl.mike.a@?????.???>
To: John Brier <johnbrier@?????.???>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] SATpc32 -- doppler.sqf Editor
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As far as I?m aware there are no ?sections? of the file, it is simply just a
CSV with a different file extension. There is no way to differentiate
between alive and dead. And speaking of dead, it?s dead simple to edit the
file. With so many different opinions, like everything else, on how it
should be done it?s easier if people just generate what fits their need. A
satellite no longer is relevant to you, delete the line. Something new in
orbit, add a line. We have the technology
https://www.amsat.org/doppler-sqf-line-generator/
73,
Mike Diehl
W8LID/VE6LID
> On Apr 13, 2020, at 16:41, John Brier via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
wrote:
>
> ?I would prefer them to stay as it is a good reference for historical
> reasons.
>
> Maybe put dead ones all at the bottom of the file or under a different
> section of the file.
>
> 73, John Brier KG4AKV
>
>> On Mon, Apr 13, 2020, 16:24 Jim Walls via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 04/13/2020 12:43, Thomas Schaefer via AMSAT-BB wrote:
>>> A related question?Is there some reason we need to carry old, no longer
>> in-use, satellites in these files? The
>>> Doppler.sql file is full of satellites one cannot possibly use anymore.
>> Same question about the lists in general. Can one filter the lists so
>> adding AO-51 for example to tracking is never even an option ?as in one
>> never even sees it.
>>>
>> Well, for one thing, dead satellites sometimes come back from the dead.
>> AO-7 comes to mind - and yes, I was on the first US pass after it was
>> confirmed to be alive after 21 years of silence.
>>
>> --
>> 73
>> -------------------------------------
>> Jim Walls - K6CCC
>> jim@?????.???
>> Ofc: 818-548-4804
>> http://members.dslextreme.com/users/k6ccc/
>> AMSAT Member 32537 - WSWSS Member 395
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
>> expressed
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2020 17:48:09 -0400
From: Thomas Schaefer <ny4i@????.???>
To: Mike Diehl <diehl.mike.a@?????.???>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] SATpc32 -- doppler.sqf Editor
Message-ID: <DDCBAC7B-AC2E-447E-A437-ADDAB4FE7CAD@????.???>
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Agreed regarding DOPPLER.SQL, deleting entries is easy. I will create a new
thread as I crossed two ideas and it is confusing people.
Thanks,
Tom
Tom Schaefer, NY4I
Blog: www.ny4i.com
Madeira Beach, FL (Grid: EL87ot)
> On Apr 13, 2020, at 5:31 PM, Mike Diehl via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
wrote:
>
> As far as I?m aware there are no ?sections? of the file, it is simply just
a CSV with a different file extension. There is no way to differentiate
between alive and dead. And speaking of dead, it?s dead simple to edit the
file. With so many different opinions, like everything else, on how it
should be done it?s easier if people just generate what fits their need. A
satellite no longer is relevant to you, delete the line. Something new in
orbit, add a line. We have the technology
https://www.amsat.org/doppler-sqf-line-generator/
>
> 73,
> Mike Diehl
> W8LID/VE6LID
>
>> On Apr 13, 2020, at 16:41, John Brier via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
wrote:
>>
>> ?I would prefer them to stay as it is a good reference for historical
>> reasons.
>>
>> Maybe put dead ones all at the bottom of the file or under a different
>> section of the file.
>>
>> 73, John Brier KG4AKV
>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 13, 2020, 16:24 Jim Walls via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 04/13/2020 12:43, Thomas Schaefer via AMSAT-BB wrote:
>>>> A related question?Is there some reason we need to carry old, no longer
>>> in-use, satellites in these files? The
>>>> Doppler.sql file is full of satellites one cannot possibly use anymore.
>>> Same question about the lists in general. Can one filter the lists so
>>> adding AO-51 for example to tracking is never even an option ?as in one
>>> never even sees it.
>>>>
>>> Well, for one thing, dead satellites sometimes come back from the dead.
>>> AO-7 comes to mind - and yes, I was on the first US pass after it was
>>> confirmed to be alive after 21 years of silence.
>>>
>>> --
>>> 73
>>> -------------------------------------
>>> Jim Walls - K6CCC
>>> jim@?????.???
>>> Ofc: 818-548-4804
>>> http://members.dslextreme.com/users/k6ccc/
>>> AMSAT Member 32537 - WSWSS Member 395
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
>>> expressed
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2020 18:01:41 -0400
From: Thomas Schaefer <ny4i@????.???>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] SATpc32 -- Limit satellites to active ones?
Message-ID: <5A995A6C-6F9E-4E01-A67D-A5F3307C77B5@????.???>
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A related question?Is there some reason we need to carry old, no longer
in-use, satellites in these files? This is not about the DOPPLER.SQL file
but more about the lists in general as the elements files are full of
objects one can never use for communications. For example, when I open the
Satellite dialog, I see 200 available satellites. I have my filters setup
but there is a big list of essentially no communication use ?unless it comes
back from the dead and the AMSAT News will tell me that I have no doubt.
I was asking if one could filter the ?Available? list but that looks to be
just a representation of the files underneath (amateur.txt, cubesat.txt, etc).
Just as we have editors for Doppler.SQL, I think one answer might be to
create a new file with the active satellites in it (derived from the AMSAT
satellites page). I can then use that my ?Active sats? Keps file as my
input. I can programmatically build the active sats file from the downloaded
elements files. That seems like an easy Perl script I can put on a website.
As far as a feature request (and this is purely for usability), I would
summarize it thusly, add a feature where one can list the name of the
satellites one wants to see in the Available file. This would be an Active
filter. You can enable that with a checkbox to see active sats or all for
historical reference. Then even though the program downloads the latest
elements, it would only show the satellites in the active file or all if
Active is not checked.
Thanks,
Tom Schaefer, NY4I
Blog: www.ny4i.com
Madeira Beach, FL (Grid: EL87ot)
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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2020 18:55:43 -0400
From: John Brier <johnbrier@?????.???>
To: Mike Diehl <diehl.mike.a@?????.???>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] SATpc32 -- doppler.sqf Editor
Message-ID:
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I should have been more specific about what I meant when I used the word
sections.
Add a comment somewhere in the file that says something like "the sats
below are dead." In that way you create sections using comments as headers.
At the very least you could say satellites that have re-entered the
atmosphere are dead.
That said, yes, it is not hard to edit the files as you prefer.
One advantage to having the default files list sats in different sections
would be that all the people who prefer that don't have to do the same
change themselves on new installs.
It could also be helpful to new satops who might not know what sats are
alive or dead.
73, John Brier KG4AKV
On Mon, Apr 13, 2020, 17:31 Mike Diehl <diehl.mike.a@?????.???> wrote:
> As far as I?m aware there are no ?sections? of the file, it is simply just
> a CSV with a different file extension. There is no way to differentiate
> between alive and dead. And speaking of dead, it?s dead simple to edit the
> file. With so many different opinions, like everything else, on how it
> should be done it?s easier if people just generate what fits their need. A
> satellite no longer is relevant to you, delete the line. Something new in
> orbit, add a line. We have the technology
> https://www.amsat.org/doppler-sqf-line-generator/
>
> 73,
> Mike Diehl
> W8LID/VE6LID
>
> On Apr 13, 2020, at 16:41, John Brier via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
> wrote:
>
> ?I would prefer them to stay as it is a good reference for historical
> reasons.
>
> Maybe put dead ones all at the bottom of the file or under a different
> section of the file.
>
> 73, John Brier KG4AKV
>
> On Mon, Apr 13, 2020, 16:24 Jim Walls via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
> wrote:
>
> On 04/13/2020 12:43, Thomas Schaefer via AMSAT-BB wrote:
>
> A related question?Is there some reason we need to carry old, no longer
>
> in-use, satellites in these files? The
>
> Doppler.sql file is full of satellites one cannot possibly use anymore.
>
> Same question about the lists in general. Can one filter the lists so
>
> adding AO-51 for example to tracking is never even an option ?as in one
>
> never even sees it.
>
>
> Well, for one thing, dead satellites sometimes come back from the dead.
>
> AO-7 comes to mind - and yes, I was on the first US pass after it was
>
> confirmed to be alive after 21 years of silence.
>
>
> --
>
> 73
>
> -------------------------------------
>
> Jim Walls - K6CCC
>
> jim@?????.???
>
> Ofc: 818-548-4804
>
> http://members.dslextreme.com/users/k6ccc/
>
> AMSAT Member 32537 - WSWSS Member 395
>
>
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>
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>
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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2020 23:04:42 +0000
From: "Devin L. Ganger" <devin@????????.???>
To: AMSAT bbs <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] SATpc32 -- doppler.sqf Editor
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Replied directly to Mike and John with my first response, copying to the
list now.
Straight CSV format doesn't provide support for comments, and while it's
probably not terribly complex to add support for them to a parser, there are
other ways to do the job.
For example, import the CSV file into Excel (or your spreadsheet
manipulation program of choice). Add a column "Status" and for each line,
mark whether they are active or inactive. Save it as a proper Excel workbook
(.xlsx).
Then, create a new worksheet in the same workbook (new tab down at the
bottom). With a little bit of Excel-fu, you can have that worksheet display
only those rows from the original worksheet that have "Active" in the Status
field you just added. You can simply then save that worksheet as CSV to
create your new working CSV file, but still have all of those original
entries backed up and archived.
--
Devin L. Ganger (WA7DLG)
email:?devin@????????.???
web:?Devin on Earth
cell:?+1 425.239.2575
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb-bounces@?????.???> On Behalf Of John Brier
> via AMSAT-BB
> Sent: Monday, April 13, 2020 3:56 PM
> To: Mike Diehl <diehl.mike.a@?????.???>
> Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] SATpc32 -- doppler.sqf Editor
>
> I should have been more specific about what I meant when I used the word
> sections.
>
> Add a comment somewhere in the file that says something like "the sats
> below are dead." In that way you create sections using comments as headers.
>
> At the very least you could say satellites that have re-entered the
atmosphere
> are dead.
>
> That said, yes, it is not hard to edit the files as you prefer.
>
> One advantage to having the default files list sats in different sections
would
> be that all the people who prefer that don't have to do the same change
> themselves on new installs.
>
> It could also be helpful to new satops who might not know what sats are
alive
> or dead.
>
> 73, John Brier KG4AKV
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 13, 2020, 17:31 Mike Diehl <diehl.mike.a@?????.???> wrote:
>
> > As far as I?m aware there are no ?sections? of the file, it is simply
> > just a CSV with a different file extension. There is no way to
> > differentiate between alive and dead. And speaking of dead, it?s dead
> > simple to edit the file. With so many different opinions, like
> > everything else, on how it should be done it?s easier if people just
> > generate what fits their need. A satellite no longer is relevant to
> > you, delete the line. Something new in orbit, add a line. We have the
> > technology https://www.amsat.org/doppler-sqf-line-generator/
> >
> > 73,
> > Mike Diehl
> > W8LID/VE6LID
> >
> > On Apr 13, 2020, at 16:41, John Brier via AMSAT-BB
> > <amsat-bb@?????.???>
> > wrote:
> >
> > ?I would prefer them to stay as it is a good reference for historical
> > reasons.
> >
> > Maybe put dead ones all at the bottom of the file or under a different
> > section of the file.
> >
> > 73, John Brier KG4AKV
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 13, 2020, 16:24 Jim Walls via AMSAT-BB
> > <amsat-bb@?????.???>
> > wrote:
> >
> > On 04/13/2020 12:43, Thomas Schaefer via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> >
> > A related question?Is there some reason we need to carry old, no
> > longer
> >
> > in-use, satellites in these files? The
> >
> > Doppler.sql file is full of satellites one cannot possibly use anymore.
> >
> > Same question about the lists in general. Can one filter the lists so
> >
> > adding AO-51 for example to tracking is never even an option ?as in
> > one
> >
> > never even sees it.
> >
> >
> > Well, for one thing, dead satellites sometimes come back from the dead.
> >
> > AO-7 comes to mind - and yes, I was on the first US pass after it was
> >
> > confirmed to be alive after 21 years of silence.
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > 73
> >
> > -------------------------------------
> >
> > Jim Walls - K6CCC
> >
> > jim@?????.???
> >
> > Ofc: 818-548-4804
> >
> > http://members.dslextreme.com/users/k6ccc/
> >
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