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Today's Topics:

   1. Wanted: Icom AG25 preamp (Kyle Y)
   2. Telemetry on 145.96 MHz (wizardofzid)
   3. Re: Telemetry on 145.96 MHz (Jeff Johns)
   4. Re: Telemetry on 145.96 MHz (Rick Tejera)
   5. Re: Telemetry on 145.96 MHz (Jeff Johns)
   6. PO-101 did not seem to hear me (Loren M. Lang)
   7. Re: PO-101 did not seem to hear me (Roy Dean)
   8. Re: PO-101 did not seem to hear me (Brian Wilkins KO4AQF)
   9. Re: PO-101 did not seem to hear me (saguaroastro)
  10. Re: PO-101 did not seem to hear me (Scott)
  11. Re: PO-101 did not seem to hear me (Scott)
  12. Interesting news about on-orbit geostationary satellite
      maintenance (Zach Metzinger)
  13. VE8RAC on for WARD 12z-24z (Ron VE8RT)


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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2020 09:50:21 -0500
From: Kyle Y <yokshs@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] Wanted: Icom AG25 preamp
Message-ID:
<CAJwRzNORjOGfwkge0QsXSxMvntYwVRwZO-YjmfzEZErN8qnj+A@????.?????.???>
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Hello all,

Anybody have an Icom AG25 preamp that they'd like to sell?

Please contact me directly if so. Thanks. 73

Kyle
K0KN
k0kn@?????.???


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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2020 23:41:12 -0700
From: wizardofzid <wizardofzid@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] Telemetry on 145.96 MHz
Message-ID: <5e97fe0a.1c69fb81.9e34d.95ec@??.??????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

I've heard a CW telemetry signal on 145.96 (AO-91 downlink frequency) 5-10
min. before the FM pass.? It's a bit hard to copy CW on a FM receiver but
I've heard it 3 times in the last 2 days.? Seems to fade out prior to the
AO-91 pass.? I expect it is an analog bird but so far I haven't figured out
which.? Any guesses?Rusty, WA8ZIDSent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy
smartphone

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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2020 02:03:29 -0500
From: Jeff Johns <jeff30339@?????.???>
To: AMSAT <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Telemetry on 145.96 MHz
Message-ID: <6261EE31-3BA5-4A98-B355-C42BDBBC1A85@?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

Most likely it is the Max Valier satellite.

Jeff WE4B

> On Apr 16, 2020, at 1:42 AM, wizardofzid via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
wrote:
>
> ?I've heard a CW telemetry signal on 145.96 (AO-91 downlink frequency)
5-10 min. before the FM pass.  It's a bit hard to copy CW on a FM receiver
but I've heard it 3 times in the last 2 days.  Seems to fade out prior to
the AO-91 pass.  I expect it is an analog bird but so far I haven't figured
out which.  Any guesses?Rusty, WA8ZIDSent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy
smartphone
> _______________________________________________
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2020 15:41:37 -0700
From: "Rick Tejera" <SaguaroAstro@???.???>
To: "'Jeff Johns'" <jeff30339@?????.???>
Cc: 'AMSAT' <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Telemetry on 145.96 MHz
Message-ID: <011c01d61440$325b1220$97113660$@???.???>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="utf-8"

Jeff, that is probably it. Rusty lives a few miles from me so I  ran it in
SatPC 32 and found MVS came over DM33 at 1736UT 15 Apr on a descending pass
and AO-91 came over on an ascending pas at 1745UT. Dm33 was in the mutual
footprint between 1745 and 1747.

I'll have to listen for it, from the looks of things these two bird cross
path fairly often.

Rick Tejera (K7TEJ)
Saguaro Astronomy Club
www.saguaroastro.org
Thunderbird Amateur Radio Club
www.W7TBC.org

-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb-bounces@?????.???> On Behalf Of Jeff Johns via
AMSAT-BB
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2020 00:03
To: AMSAT <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Telemetry on 145.96 MHz

Most likely it is the Max Valier satellite.

Jeff WE4B

> On Apr 16, 2020, at 1:42 AM, wizardofzid via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
wrote:
>
> ?I've heard a CW telemetry signal on 145.96 (AO-91 downlink frequency)
> 5-10 min. before the FM pass.  It's a bit hard to copy CW on a FM
> receiver but I've heard it 3 times in the last 2 days.  Seems to fade
> out prior to the AO-91 pass.  I expect it is an analog bird but so far
> I haven't figured out which.  Any guesses?Rusty, WA8ZIDSent from my
> Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
> _______________________________________________
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2020 17:51:14 -0500
From: Jeff Johns <jeff30339@?????.???>
To: AMSAT <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Telemetry on 145.96 MHz
Message-ID: <F50EFEFE-AAB5-42DA-BFBB-4CB8130A087E@?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

Yep. It?s a real nuisance and causes a lot of issues when trying to work
AO-91.

Jeff WE4B

> On Apr 16, 2020, at 5:41 PM, Rick Tejera <SaguaroAstro@???.???> wrote:
>
> ?Jeff, that is probably it. Rusty lives a few miles from me so I  ran it
in SatPC 32 and found MVS came over DM33 at 1736UT 15 Apr on a descending
pass and AO-91 came over on an ascending pas at 1745UT. Dm33 was in the
mutual footprint between 1745 and 1747.
>
> I'll have to listen for it, from the looks of things these two bird cross
path fairly often.
>
> Rick Tejera (K7TEJ)
> Saguaro Astronomy Club
> www.saguaroastro.org
> Thunderbird Amateur Radio Club
> www.W7TBC.org
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb-bounces@?????.???> On Behalf Of Jeff Johns via
AMSAT-BB
> Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2020 00:03
> To: AMSAT <amsat-bb@?????.???>
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Telemetry on 145.96 MHz
>
> Most likely it is the Max Valier satellite.
>
> Jeff WE4B
>
>> On Apr 16, 2020, at 1:42 AM, wizardofzid via AMSAT-BB
<amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>>
>> ?I've heard a CW telemetry signal on 145.96 (AO-91 downlink frequency)
>> 5-10 min. before the FM pass.  It's a bit hard to copy CW on a FM
>> receiver but I've heard it 3 times in the last 2 days.  Seems to fade
>> out prior to the AO-91 pass.  I expect it is an analog bird but so far
>> I haven't figured out which.  Any guesses?Rusty, WA8ZIDSent from my
>> Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>> Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the
official views of AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to
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expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official
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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2020 15:57:55 -0700
From: "Loren M. Lang" <penguin359@?????.???>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] PO-101 did not seem to hear me
Message-ID:
<CACymvmceU8hYUbq4XC4M98p3zFVnruSFA8zmDrLN9sb4GpbUKA@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

I just tried to make some QSOs on the PO-101 pass starting around 22:04Z
just a little bit ago. However, even though I could clearly hear the
satellite for nearly it's entire pass, I could not seem to make it in. I'm
not sure what wasn't configured right. This is my very first attempt with
this satellite.

I am using a Yaesu FT-3DR with an Elk Antenna. I had very clear audio for
much of the pass which is usually the more difficult part from experience.
On that pass, I heard:

DN17
N6AJ DM05
KA7FVV
K8YSE/7 DM43
WJ7WJ CN85

I'm not looking for LoTW confirmations, just if any of them heard me at
all. I have five presets, all receive on 145.900 and transmit on 437.490,
437.495, 437.500, 437.505, and 437.510 MHz in that order. When pressing
PTT, my radio showed the corresponding TX frequency and also TN 141.3 along
with FM in the corner so I can't figure out what I was doing wrong
especially during the peak when it should be close to being on frequency.
I've been very successful with my set up on AO-91, AO-92, and SO-50 so it
leaves me completely befuddled what I did wrong.

Confused,
Loren
K7IW


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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2020 20:05:44 -0400
From: Roy Dean <royldean@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] PO-101 did not seem to hear me
Message-ID:
<CADGPg2uR_cXu62Tw5znLO6NdjhigoggOmQG872=YQ7Z0NxcKdg@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

>
> I just tried to make some QSOs on the PO-101 pass starting around 22:04Z
> just a little bit ago. However, even though I could clearly hear the
> satellite for nearly it's entire pass, I could not seem to make it in. I'm
> not sure what wasn't configured right. This is my very first attempt with
> this satellite


PO-101 is very stubborn when it comes to uplink power.   I've never tried
below 10 watts, and even when I'm using 20 watts (which is now my standard
with it), it sometimes "cuts out" in the middle of a qso.   It may be even
more difficult with just an HT and an Elk, which isn't all that great on
70cm to start with.   YMMV.

--Roy
K3RLD


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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2020 20:11:39 -0400
From: Brian Wilkins KO4AQF <bwilkins@?????.???>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] PO-101 did not seem to hear me
Message-ID:
<CAO_Eq30Kog-eXi-f8tqYRUmgT2QoiMSXchEhW0jh+oxD=kbJAw@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

I have only made it into PO-101 once and that was after ?upgrading? to an
Arrow II antenna. I also use a 5W HT

On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 8:07 PM Roy Dean via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
wrote:

> >
> > I just tried to make some QSOs on the PO-101 pass starting around 22:04Z
> > just a little bit ago. However, even though I could clearly hear the
> > satellite for nearly it's entire pass, I could not seem to make it in.
> I'm
> > not sure what wasn't configured right. This is my very first attempt with
> > this satellite
>
>
> PO-101 is very stubborn when it comes to uplink power.   I've never tried
> below 10 watts, and even when I'm using 20 watts (which is now my standard
> with it), it sometimes "cuts out" in the middle of a qso.   It may be even
> more difficult with just an HT and an Elk, which isn't all that great on
> 70cm to start with.   YMMV.
>
> --Roy
> K3RLD
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
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--
Brian Wilkins
KO4AQF


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Message: 9
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2020 19:37:31 -0700
From: saguaroastro <saguaroastro@???.???>
To: Brian Wilkins KO4AQF <bwilkins@?????.???>, AMSAT BB
<amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] PO-101 did not seem to hear me
Message-ID: <20200418023736.740C98034@??????????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

I have no problems getting into it with 10 watts and an Elk. I am curious as
to why he is having trouble. He sounds like he"s got things set up
correctly.73Rick Tejera (K7TEJ)Saguaro Astronomy
ClubWww.saguaroastro.orgThunderbird Astronomy ClubWww.w7tbc.org
-------- Original message --------From: Brian Wilkins KO4AQF via AMSAT-BB
<amsat-bb@?????.???> Date: 4/17/20  17:12  (GMT-07:00) To: AMSAT BB
<amsat-bb@?????.???> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] PO-101 did not seem to hear me
I have only made it into PO-101 once and that was after ?upgrading? to
anArrow II antenna. I also use a 5W HTOn Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 8:07 PM Roy
Dean via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>wrote:> >> > I just tried to make some
QSOs on the PO-101 pass starting around 22:04Z> > just a little bit ago.
However, even though I could clearly hear the> > satellite for nearly it's
entire pass, I could not seem to make it in.> I'm> > not sure what wasn't
configured right. This is my very first attempt with> > this satellite>>>
PO-101 is very stubborn when it comes to uplink power.?? I've never tried>
below 10 watts, and even when I'm using 20 watts (which is now my standard>
with it), it sometimes "cuts out" in the middle of a qso.?? It may be even>
more difficult with just an HT and
 an Elk, which isn't all that great on> 70cm to start with.?? YMMV.>> --Roy>
K3RLD> _______________________________________________> Sent via
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satellite program!> Subscription settings:
https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb>-- Brian
WilkinsKO4AQF_______________________________________________Sent via
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Message: 10
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2020 19:42:39 -0700
From: Scott <ka7fvv@?????.???>
To: "Loren M. Lang" <penguin359@?????.???>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] PO-101 did not seem to hear me
Message-ID: <A5AFE5F6-7162-491D-8C5C-BA2BF7936819@?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

Today was my first contact through PO-101.  Always missed the schedule. 
Nice it is on all the time now.  I noticed the downlink would cut out
occasionally.  Double check you have the 141.3 tone for the uplink.  I am in
DN17.

73.  Scott, KA7FVV
Director - KBARA kbara.org
Co-Owner WA7DRE 443.525 System Fusion Repeater
Co-Owner KA7FVV 147.320 KBARA Repeater
www.ka7fvv.net

> On Apr 17, 2020, at 15:58, Loren M. Lang via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
wrote:
>
> ?I just tried to make some QSOs on the PO-101 pass starting around 22:04Z
> just a little bit ago. However, even though I could clearly hear the
> satellite for nearly it's entire pass, I could not seem to make it in. I'm
> not sure what wasn't configured right. This is my very first attempt with
> this satellite.
>
> I am using a Yaesu FT-3DR with an Elk Antenna. I had very clear audio for
> much of the pass which is usually the more difficult part from experience.
> On that pass, I heard:
>
> DN17
> N6AJ DM05
> KA7FVV
> K8YSE/7 DM43
> WJ7WJ CN85
>
> I'm not looking for LoTW confirmations, just if any of them heard me at
> all. I have five presets, all receive on 145.900 and transmit on 437.490,
> 437.495, 437.500, 437.505, and 437.510 MHz in that order. When pressing
> PTT, my radio showed the corresponding TX frequency and also TN 141.3 along
> with FM in the corner so I can't figure out what I was doing wrong
> especially during the peak when it should be close to being on frequency.
> I've been very successful with my set up on AO-91, AO-92, and SO-50 so it
> leaves me completely befuddled what I did wrong.
>
> Confused,
> Loren
> K7IW
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb



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Message: 11
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2020 19:42:39 -0700
From: Scott <ka7fvv@?????.???>
To: "Loren M. Lang" <penguin359@?????.???>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] PO-101 did not seem to hear me
Message-ID: <A5AFE5F6-7162-491D-8C5C-BA2BF7936819@?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

Today was my first contact through PO-101.  Always missed the schedule. 
Nice it is on all the time now.  I noticed the downlink would cut out
occasionally.  Double check you have the 141.3 tone for the uplink.  I am in
DN17.

73.  Scott, KA7FVV
Director - KBARA kbara.org
Co-Owner WA7DRE 443.525 System Fusion Repeater
Co-Owner KA7FVV 147.320 KBARA Repeater
www.ka7fvv.net

> On Apr 17, 2020, at 15:58, Loren M. Lang via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
wrote:
>
> ?I just tried to make some QSOs on the PO-101 pass starting around 22:04Z
> just a little bit ago. However, even though I could clearly hear the
> satellite for nearly it's entire pass, I could not seem to make it in. I'm
> not sure what wasn't configured right. This is my very first attempt with
> this satellite.
>
> I am using a Yaesu FT-3DR with an Elk Antenna. I had very clear audio for
> much of the pass which is usually the more difficult part from experience.
> On that pass, I heard:
>
> DN17
> N6AJ DM05
> KA7FVV
> K8YSE/7 DM43
> WJ7WJ CN85
>
> I'm not looking for LoTW confirmations, just if any of them heard me at
> all. I have five presets, all receive on 145.900 and transmit on 437.490,
> 437.495, 437.500, 437.505, and 437.510 MHz in that order. When pressing
> PTT, my radio showed the corresponding TX frequency and also TN 141.3 along
> with FM in the corner so I can't figure out what I was doing wrong
> especially during the peak when it should be close to being on frequency.
> I've been very successful with my set up on AO-91, AO-92, and SO-50 so it
> leaves me completely befuddled what I did wrong.
>
> Confused,
> Loren
> K7IW
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb



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Message: 12
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2020 23:16:43 -0500
From: Zach Metzinger <zmetzing@?????.???>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Interesting news about on-orbit geostationary
satellite	maintenance
Message-ID: <C8457B99-21DF-4865-BE47-44D2CD6DD866@?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

"For the first time ever, a robotic spacecraft caught an old satellite and
extended its life"

https://tinyurl.com/y7ta8qzr

--- Zach
N0ZGO


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Message: 13
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2020 05:33:49 -0600
From: Ron VE8RT <ve8rt@?????.??>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] VE8RAC on for WARD 12z-24z
Message-ID: <20200418053349.c8b8daae52d3688190aeff79@?????.??>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII

   with some breaks for meals and shopping I hope to be active on
satellites for World Amateur Radio Day using the call sign VE8RAC.
This will be on U/v satellites, linear and FM (making an effort to use
best practices to reduce QRM), but not AO7 which is too fragile.
QSLing will be through the Radio Amateurs of Canada www.rac.ca as this
is there call sign not my own.

   A note about QSLing, for my own call sign, please keep in mind that
US stamps on a SASE will not work here.  If sending me a QSL through
the mail a self addressed envelope is appreciated, and unless the
demand gets too high I don't mind covering return postage.  Otherwise
unless I forget I'll return the SASE when I mail out my QSL card so
that it may be used within the US.

  73  Ron VE8RT, and for a few hours today only VE8RAC

--
Ron VE8RT <ve8rt@?????.??>


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