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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Amsat Journal, Digital-only? (Zach Metzinger)
2. Amsat Journal, Digital-only? (Ronald Parsons)
3. Re: Amsat Journal, Digital-only (Mike Hoblinski)
4. QRZ.com (Bob Keating)
5. Re: QRZ.com (Jeff Johns)
6. Re: Amsat Journal, Digital-only? (David J. Schmocker)
7. Re: QRZ.com (Bruce)
8. Tuning M2 LEO pack antennas (Carl A Estey)
9. 23cm antenna (ke4kol)
10. Re: 23cm antenna (73 Bob W7LRD)
11. Re: Tuning M2 LEO pack antennas (Mark D. Johns)
12. Re: 23cm antenna (Stephen E. Belter)
13. Re: QRZ.com (on4cjq@???????.???
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2020 19:17:13 -0500
From: Zach Metzinger <zmetzing@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Amsat Journal, Digital-only?
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On 04/19/20 19:01, Cathryn Mataga wrote:
> From the website.
>
> "The March/April issue of /The AMSAT Journal/ will be produced on time.
> However, it may only be possible to publish it in digital format. Stay
> tuned for further updates."
Ah, that's good background.
I'm one of those curmudgeons that actually likes to read paper, so I'm
not in favor of this course of action. An opt-in, sure, but not a
wholesale change.
I spend far too much time looking at glowing pixels.
--- Zach
N0ZGO
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2020 19:48:33 -0500
From: "Ronald Parsons" <w5rkn@?????.???>
To: <AMSAT-BB@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Amsat Journal, Digital-only?
Message-ID: <00be01d616ad$6ba929d0$42fb7d70$@?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
I was very pleased when ARRL made electronic copies of QST available along
with downloadable copies of past issues. I could finally dispose of those
magazine boxes stores on the top closet shelf. Doing something similar for
The AMSAT Journal would be great. It even would allow color to be used in
the articles. I seldom need hard copies of many articles, so printing has
not been a problem. PDF would be my format preference. We would get the
Journal earlier and wouldn't have to store the old issues. I assume AMSAT
would make available an online availability of past issues.
Ron W5RKN
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2020 21:33:22 -0700
From: Mike Hoblinski <hobergenix@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Amsat Journal, Digital-only
Message-ID:
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The Amsat-UK membership offers a membership that has both mail and digital
opticion for their
journal version. I live in the USA and am an Amsat-NA member but I enjoy
reading other
satellite news and stories. I receive their digital copy as soon as its put
out. I can download it
and save it for future reading and reference. They do put a water mark or
reference on the first
page to identify the person and source of the download. Having the Amsat
Journal downloadable
might be of interest to other people around the world that would like to
see some of the fine articles in it. Maybe charge a fee per issue. Another
plus for members could be online storage of back
issues. I enjoy going back thru my stack of paper copies on a rainy day and
always seem to find something I have missed or now want to try. Some
members could opt for a digital only Journal
maybe saving some costs and paper.
Just my thoughts
Mike Hoblinski
N6IMF
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2020 22:05:27 -0700
From: Bob Keating <bkeating1954@?????.???>
To: AMSAT-BB@?????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] QRZ.com
Message-ID: <0cb9c8eb-a9bf-bcaf-b91c-fe09a37703dd@?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
Has anybody found a way to? upload satellite contacts to a QRZ log and
have them easily be confirmed? The glitch seems to be that QRZ.com wants
the transmit and receive frequencies to be the same, it does not seem
able to accept QSOs that were made duplex. Thanks!
Bob N6REK
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2020 00:53:15 -0500
From: Jeff Johns <jeff30339@?????.???>
To: AMSAT <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] QRZ.com
Message-ID: <49BD4612-8FFE-41AC-A448-30D77CCEDCD7@?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
QRZ does not recognize SAT as a propagation mode. They have been asked many
times over the years to add it but can?t/won?t do so.
Jeff WE4B
> On Apr 20, 2020, at 12:07 AM, Bob Keating via AMSAT-BB
<amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>
> ?Has anybody found a way to upload satellite contacts to a QRZ log and
have them easily be confirmed? The glitch seems to be that QRZ.com wants the
transmit and receive frequencies to be the same, it does not seem able to
accept QSOs that were made duplex. Thanks!
>
> Bob N6REK
>
> _______________________________________________
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> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2020 07:32:47 -0500
From: "David J. Schmocker" <kj9idave@???????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Amsat Journal, Digital-only?
Message-ID: <f37d41bf-853f-69fb-4430-e13b455d6844@???????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
As a person diagnosed with tennis-elbow (over-use of tendons in forearm
from computing mouse/keyboard movements), my Amsat Journal preference
remains printed material.
I realize there are advantages to go digital/soft-copy, but an opt-out
of printed default would serve those with various needs.
If a new printer is required, please consult Quad Graphics (Pewaukee,
WI) with whom I have no financial connection (the disclaimer).
very 73,
Dave KJ9I
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2020 08:04:41 -0500
From: Bruce <kk5do@????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] QRZ.com
Message-ID: <d8551f66-c8d9-2221-d479-d2b2f37860c9@????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
I remember when QRZ was up for sale. Not sure if it was sold. If so, the
original owner and author of the software is probably no longer involved
and the new owner may not want to make changes or know how to make changes.
Just a guess.
73...bruce
On 4/20/2020 12:53 AM, Jeff Johns via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> QRZ does not recognize SAT as a propagation mode. They have been asked
many times over the years to add it but can?t/won?t do so.
>
> Jeff WE4B
>
>> On Apr 20, 2020, at 12:07 AM, Bob Keating via AMSAT-BB
<amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>>
>> ?Has anybody found a way to upload satellite contacts to a QRZ log and
have them easily be confirmed? The glitch seems to be that QRZ.com wants the
transmit and receive frequencies to be the same, it does not seem able to
accept QSOs that were made duplex. Thanks!
>>
>> Bob N6REK
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
Opinions expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
--
Bruce Paige, KK5DO
AMSAT Director Contests and Awards
AMSAT Board Member 2016-2020
ARRL Awards Field Checker (WAS, 5BWAS, VUCC), VE
Houston AMSAT Net - Wed 0100z on Echolink - Conference *AMSAT*
Also live streaming MP3 at http://www.amsatnet.com
Podcast at http://www.amsatnet.com/podcast.xml or iTunes
Latest satellite news on the ARRL Audio News
http://www.arrl.org
AMSAT on Twitter http://www.twitter.com/amsat
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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2020 12:19:03 -0500
From: Carl A Estey <carl@??????.???>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Tuning M2 LEO pack antennas
Message-ID: <2C30C950-21D7-4983-A0CB-C905B2958D30@??????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Recently I bought through AMSAT the LEO pack and assembled and installed it
this weekend. The SWR on the 2-meter antenna is 1.4:1 from 144.1 to 146.1
with resistance of 58 ohms and 2.5:1 at 148 MHz. The 70-cm antenna has the
best SWR (3.0:1 and resistance of 25 ohms) at 442.6 MHZ. Obviously neither
is great.
How should I tune the antennas? It appears that the only tuning possible is
to adjust the shorting straps for distance from the inside edge of the
shorting bar to there boom. ShouldI I be able to achieve 1.1:1 on both
antennas? How should the coax be routed from the junction block? I have
the LMR-400 feedline zip tied along the boom to the cross bar and then
around the rotors.
What suggestions do you have?
The instructions particularly concerning the location of the 1/4-wave
phasing line and the 1/2 wave balun were not very clear. Does anyone have
any pictures or illustrations that show placement of the tasing line and
balun?
73
Carl WA0CQG
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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2020 17:49:29 +0000 (UTC)
From: ke4kol <ke4kol@?????????.???>
To: Amsat-bb <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] 23cm antenna
Message-ID: <1592854566.3580573.1587404969336@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Horizontal or Vertical for Satellite work?
Thanks for any replies.
Jim, Ke4kol
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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2020 11:35:55 -0700 (PDT)
From: 73 Bob W7LRD <w7lrd@???????.???>
To: ke4kol <ke4kol@?????????.???>, ke4kol via AMSAT-BB
<amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] 23cm antenna
Message-ID: <251832319.43710.1587407756308@???????.???????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
H 24 el loop, or RHCP 16 T helix
73 Bob W7LRD
> On April 20, 2020 at 10:49 AM ke4kol via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
wrote:
>
>
> Horizontal or Vertical for Satellite work?
> Thanks for any replies.
> Jim, Ke4kol
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2020 14:02:47 -0500
From: "Mark D. Johns" <mjohns+K0JM@??????.???>
To: Carl A Estey <carl@??????.???>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Tuning M2 LEO pack antennas
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Carl,
I just went through this with my LEO-Pack that has been up for almost
8 years. I didn't have good test equipment available when I first put
it together. When I started having trouble recently, and tested it
properly, I discovered SWRs on 2m very much as you describe. On advice
from people on this list, I went back to the assembly instructions and
discovered that I had actually not put the antenna together properly
to begin with. The diagram(s) in the instructions are somewhat
confusing, and I would say, even a little misleading. Look at the
PHOTOGRAPH in the instructions very, very, VERY closely and make sure
that the various blocks and phasing lines are placed exactly as shown
in the photo. It's difficult to see, but if you study it closely and
duplicate what's in the photo I think you'll find you have better
results. I did. Now 1.1:1 at 145.9 MHz.
You probably want to be using LMR-400 UltraFlex around the rotators.
Regular LMR-400 is awfully stiff. Bring it along the antenna boom
straight back, then keep going straight back, along the same axis, for
about a foot past the mounting clamp. Then make a nice wide loop back
to cross boom to which the antenna is mounted and fasten the coax
there at a point near the end of the reflector. Don't make a sharp
bend or kink in the coax. Good luck. 73
--
Mark D. Johns, K?JM
AMSAT Ambassador & News Service Editor
Brooklyn Park, MN USA EN35hd
-----------------------------------------------
"Heaven goes by favor; if it went by merit,
you would stay out and your dog would go in."
---Mark Twain
On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 12:15 PM Carl A Estey via AMSAT-BB
<amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>
> Recently I bought through AMSAT the LEO pack and assembled and installed
it this weekend. The SWR on the 2-meter antenna is 1.4:1 from 144.1 to 146.1
with resistance of 58 ohms and 2.5:1 at 148 MHz. The 70-cm antenna has the
best SWR (3.0:1 and resistance of 25 ohms) at 442.6 MHZ. Obviously neither
is great.
>
> How should I tune the antennas? It appears that the only tuning possible
is to adjust the shorting straps for distance from the inside edge of the
shorting bar to there boom. ShouldI I be able to achieve 1.1:1 on both
antennas? How should the coax be routed from the junction block? I have
the LMR-400 feedline zip tied along the boom to the cross bar and then
around the rotors.
>
> What suggestions do you have?
>
> The instructions particularly concerning the location of the 1/4-wave
phasing line and the 1/2 wave balun were not very clear. Does anyone have
any pictures or illustrations that show placement of the tasing line and
balun?
>
> 73
> Carl WA0CQG
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2020 20:10:15 +0000
From: "Stephen E. Belter" <seb@??????.???>
To: ke4kol <ke4kol@?????????.???>, Amsat-bb <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] 23cm antenna
Message-ID: <AA7D7A00-1B70-47D7-A1D4-73D775F91176@??????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Jim,
Do you already own the antenna?
If not, circularly polarized will usually work best for satellites.
If you already own the antenna, then put the elements perpendicular to the
mast, assuming the mast is metal.
If you have the antenna and the mounting mast or boom is fiberglass, then it
makes only a minor difference as the satellite is likely tumbling while in
orbit, oscillating between horizontal and vertical.
73, Steve N9IP
--
Steve Belter, seb@??????.???
?On 4/20/20, 1:51 PM, "AMSAT-BB on behalf of ke4kol via AMSAT-BB"
<amsat-bb-bounces@?????.??? on behalf of amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
Horizontal or Vertical for Satellite work?
Thanks for any replies.
Jim, Ke4kol
_______________________________________________
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to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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Message: 13
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2020 22:11:03 +0200 (CEST)
From: on4cjq@???????.??
To: Bob Keating <bkeating1954@?????.???>
Cc: amsat-bb <AMSAT-BB@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] QRZ.com
Message-ID:
<506602781.331737938.1587413463101.JavaMail.zimbra@???????.??>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
You need to log a sat qso with propagation mode SAT, uplink freq at the
satellite(some are using the transverters IF freq which is not allways the
same) the sat-name, the mode...
If it's logged without the SAT propagation mode, it looks like a terrestrial
contact, and that's a huge difference.
It's very important for award hunters.
So you need to use a good logging program. There would be much more matches
in LOTW, EQSL etc. if people upload correctly.
More than 20% of received online qsl is rejected on my side due to incorrect
logging.
Using here VQlog for years without any problems so far. I'm not aware of any
other good sat-logging software, but of course there will be good ones too.
73's,
Jerry ON4CJQ
----- Oorspronkelijk bericht -----
Van: "amsat-bb" <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Aan: "amsat-bb" <AMSAT-BB@?????.???>
Verzonden: Maandag 20 april 2020 07:05:27
Onderwerp: [amsat-bb] QRZ.com
Has anybody found a way to? upload satellite contacts to a QRZ log and
have them easily be confirmed? The glitch seems to be that QRZ.com wants
the transmit and receive frequencies to be the same, it does not seem
able to accept QSOs that were made duplex. Thanks!
Bob N6REK
_______________________________________________
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to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
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