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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Fw: 2M desense on Icom IC-9700 (Kevin)
2. 2019 Back Issues of The AMSAT Journal on launch.amsat.org
(Robert Bankston)
3. DOSAAF-85/RS-44 (Ray Soifer)
4. Drones For Sale (Coy Johnson)
5. Re: Fw: 2M desense on Icom IC-9700 (KI7UNJ Tucker)
6. Re: Drones For Sale (Zach Metzinger)
7. Just an observation (Steve Kristoff)
8. SatPC32 and the Green Herron Rotor Controller (Peter)
9. PCSat32 and the Green Herron Rotor controller (Peter)
10. Re: SatPC32 and the Green Herron Rotor Controller
(Dave Webb KB1PVH)
11. Re: SatPC32 and the Green Herron Rotor Controller (Peter)
12. Re: Just an observation (Dave Pascoe)
13. Re: SatPC32 and the Green Herron Rotor Controller
(Dave Webb KB1PVH)
14. Re: SatPC32 and the Green Herron Rotor Controller (Peter)
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 6 May 2020 18:51:18 -0700
From: Kevin <wa7fwf@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Fw: 2M desense on Icom IC-9700
Message-ID: <5e0f04f9-66ba-b5fb-9ffa-1a3ec86978a4@?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
Jerry,
?? Comparing the 9700 to my 9100 I also noticed that it was much more
prone to desense, it was not as bad here as what you are seeing but it
was there, same antennas here BTW.
The desense with the lack of 9600 packet support made it easy for me to
go back to my 9100 and sell the 9700. Had I kept it my next plan was to
put a diplexer in line on the 70cm side with a 50 ohm load on the 2m
port, this would probably be your best option and putting it before an
external preamp would also be best if you are using one.
73
Kevin WA7FWF
On 5/6/2020 6:18 PM, BeetleJerald Oliver via AMSAT-BB wrote:
>
>
> ----- Forwarded Message ----- From: BeetleJerald Oliver
<revjwo@???.???>To: amsat-bb@?????.??? <amsat-bb@?????.???>Sent: Wednesday,
May 6, 2020, 02:55:41 PM CDTSubject: 2M desense on Icom IC-9700
> I just replaced my Yaesu FT-847 with the Icom IC-9700.? I am having
problem with 2M uplink overloading (desense) the 70CM downlink, resulting in
not being able to use RS-44, FO-29, or SO-50.? It is the same antenna system
that I used with the FT-847 and I experienced no problem at all with the
FT-847.? SWR on both VHF/UHF is quite low using M2 CP yagis on fiberglas
boom, 11 feet apart.? I have the problem whether I use the preamps, or not.?
Even at 5W out, it is quite noticeable. Anyone else had this problem?
> KJ4EU ?? Jerry
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 7 May 2020 03:20:54 +0000 (UTC)
From: Robert Bankston <ke4al@?????.???>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] 2019 Back Issues of The AMSAT Journal on
launch.amsat.org
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 7 May 2020 13:29:02 +0000 (UTC)
From: Ray Soifer <rsoifer1@???.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] DOSAAF-85/RS-44
Message-ID: <1783629270.2753512.1588858142196@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
I operated the 1822 pass yesterday (6 May) and worked two stations, AA2HJ
and K9QHO, on CW with about? 100 W eirp.? Signals were almost as strong as
FO-29 used to be and the apogee is about the same as AO-7.? A? good DX
macine for those of us out of range of QO-100.
73 Ray W2RS
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 7 May 2020 10:27:15 -0500
From: "Coy Johnson" <k5bcn@??????????.???>
To: "Walter Holmes via AMSAT-BB" <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Drones For Sale
Message-ID: <E8954B5F1326440495157D09E44DD8AA@?????????>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Hello:
My Name is Coy Johnson
57 Grant 372
Prattsville, Ar 72129
I have for sale the following items for sale:
1. DJI Mavic 2 Pro Drone and accessories. $1000.00
2. DJI Mavic 2 Zoom Drone and Accessories. $1000.00
You can call me to talk about what all comes with each one.
I also have Two Metal Detectors for sale.
1. Minilab Equinox 800 , with accessories . $450.00
2.Garrett Motel 400 , with Wireless head phones. $200.00
If interested in any of this ? PLEASE Call?
870-699-5052
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 7 May 2020 08:29:13 -0700
From: KI7UNJ Tucker <ki7unj@?????.???>
To: Kevin <wa7fwf@?????.???>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Fw: 2M desense on Icom IC-9700
Message-ID:
<CAPFr_UnwK6MN8f2bRQqQGz__JF7KSk2ZAZFchwDWHNjr1NOH4A@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
I have to say I'm not getting desense with my IC-9700, unless I'm using
more power than is needed or should be using on the SSB Sats.
Maybe try to lower your power? RS-44 can easily be worked at around 2% (2w)
power and I work SO-50 at 0-3% every time (500mw-3w)
On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 6:52 PM Kevin via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
wrote:
> Jerry,
> Comparing the 9700 to my 9100 I also noticed that it was much more
> prone to desense, it was not as bad here as what you are seeing but it
> was there, same antennas here BTW.
> The desense with the lack of 9600 packet support made it easy for me to
> go back to my 9100 and sell the 9700. Had I kept it my next plan was to
> put a diplexer in line on the 70cm side with a 50 ohm load on the 2m
> port, this would probably be your best option and putting it before an
> external preamp would also be best if you are using one.
>
> 73
> Kevin WA7FWF
>
> On 5/6/2020 6:18 PM, BeetleJerald Oliver via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> >
> >
> > ----- Forwarded Message ----- From: BeetleJerald Oliver <
> revjwo@???.???>To: amsat-bb@?????.??? <amsat-bb@?????.???>Sent:
> Wednesday, May 6, 2020, 02:55:41 PM CDTSubject: 2M desense on Icom IC-9700
> > I just replaced my Yaesu FT-847 with the Icom IC-9700. I am having
> problem with 2M uplink overloading (desense) the 70CM downlink, resulting
> in not being able to use RS-44, FO-29, or SO-50. It is the same antenna
> system that I used with the FT-847 and I experienced no problem at all with
> the FT-847. SWR on both VHF/UHF is quite low using M2 CP yagis on
> fiberglas boom, 11 feet apart. I have the problem whether I use the
> preamps, or not. Even at 5W out, it is quite noticeable. Anyone else had
> this problem?
> > KJ4EU Jerry
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions expressed
> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
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>
> _______________________________________________
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> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
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--
*Casey Tucker KI7UNJ*
https://twitter.com/KI7UNJ
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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 7 May 2020 10:39:18 -0500
From: Zach Metzinger <zmetzing@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Drones For Sale
Message-ID: <512ad91e-f862-5353-6345-692c156cb9d3@?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
On 05/07/20 10:27, Coy Johnson via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> I have for sale the following items for sale:
Hello Coy,
This is not the appropriate venue for these items. Please use eBay or
similar.
Thanks,
--- Zach
N0ZGO
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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 07 May 2020 12:37:10 -0400
From: "Steve Kristoff" <skristof@???????.???>
To: Amsat <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Just an observation
Message-ID: <507a4197f4a21d307ce005aa265a9e56@???????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
?FWIW- If you are going to admonish someone for ?poor behavior on an FM
satellite, it is probably not the best idea to do it during the pass. Done
that way, the admonishment becomes as bad as the original QRM.
Steve AI9IN
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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 7 May 2020 16:50:21 +0000 (UTC)
From: Peter <pgprendergast@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] SatPC32 and the Green Herron Rotor Controller
Message-ID: <1816015222.2887712.1588870221034@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
So, I do not see as a choice the Green Herron RT21 Alt Az rotorcontroller?????
How can I get the program to control the antennas???ThanksPeterW2PP
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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 7 May 2020 16:55:54 +0000 (UTC)
From: Peter <pgprendergast@?????.???>
To: "amsat-bb@?????.???? <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] PCSat32 and the Green Herron Rotor controller
Message-ID: <614761688.2896727.1588870554244@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
I don't see the Green Herron RT21 alt az controller in the listof rotors?
?How can I get the program to work with this?THnaksPeterW2PP
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Message: 10
Date: Thu, 7 May 2020 12:57:37 -0400
From: Dave Webb KB1PVH <kb1pvh@?????.???>
To: Peter <pgprendergast@?????.???>
Cc: AMSAT -BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] SatPC32 and the Green Herron Rotor Controller
Message-ID:
<CAEMY9FfjND-Zbxgu6GyfRH1j+uyiUPp7zWwcooz5AS6xg2wT3A@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
Peter,
You can set DDE output in SatPC32 and also use a DDE client like the one
from Green Heron called GH Tracker or what I do is run PSTrotator which
supports the Green Heron for rotor control and run SatPC32 for radio
control. Just be aware if you use DDE output you will lose the ability to
park antennas after a pass and also the ability to have antennas start
before a pass.
Dave-KB1PVH
Sent from my Galaxy S9
On Thu, May 7, 2020, 12:52 PM Peter via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
> So, I do not see as a choice the Green Herron RT21 Alt Az
> rotorcontroller?????
> How can I get the program to control the antennas???ThanksPeterW2PP
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
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Message: 11
Date: Thu, 7 May 2020 17:22:21 +0000 (UTC)
From: Peter <pgprendergast@?????.???>
To: Dave Webb KB1PVH <kb1pvh@?????.???>
Cc: AMSAT -BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] SatPC32 and the Green Herron Rotor Controller
Message-ID: <1700462205.2915820.1588872141420@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
I'm not seeing the Green Herron dual alt az RT21 as a choice or even how to
set its serial lports??Peter
On Thursday, May 7, 2020, 12:57:50 PM EDT, Dave Webb KB1PVH
<kb1pvh@?????.???> wrote:
Peter,
?You can set DDE output in SatPC32 and also use a DDE client like the one
from Green Heron called GH Tracker or? what I do is run PSTrotator which
supports the Green Heron for rotor control and run SatPC32 for radio
control. Just be aware if you use DDE output you will lose the ability to
park antennas after a pass and also the ability to have antennas start
before a pass.?
Dave-KB1PVH
Sent from my Galaxy S9
On Thu, May 7, 2020, 12:52 PM Peter via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
So, I do not see as a choice the Green Herron RT21 Alt Az rotorcontroller?????
How can I get the program to control the antennas???ThanksPeterW2PP
_______________________________________________
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expressed
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Message: 12
Date: Thu, 7 May 2020 13:30:17 -0400
From: Dave Pascoe <davekm3t@?????.???>
To: Amsat <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Just an observation
Message-ID:
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I was on that pass and heard the intentional QRM. While the intentional QRM
is despicable, I think his intention was to point out something I don't
really understand since getting active on sats again - which is why the
same guys keep working each other on every FM satellite pass. There is
limited bandwidth and potentially a lot of new users who don't get a chance
to make contacts. I can understand working your buddies on the linear sats,
but why can't folks be considerate and generally only work new stations or
grids?
73,
Dave KM3T
On Thu, May 7, 2020 at 12:38 PM Steve Kristoff via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>
> FWIW- If you are going to admonish someone for poor behavior on an FM
> satellite, it is probably not the best idea to do it during the pass. Done
> that way, the admonishment becomes as bad as the original QRM.
> Steve AI9IN
>
> _______________________________________________
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> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
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Message: 13
Date: Thu, 7 May 2020 13:34:30 -0400
From: Dave Webb KB1PVH <kb1pvh@?????.???>
To: Peter <pgprendergast@?????.???>
Cc: AMSAT -BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] SatPC32 and the Green Herron Rotor Controller
Message-ID:
<CAEMY9Fe4CVacUUhBkX70bg25s5=oHej+uLc4Spnv-Dd3HeQxoA@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
Setup > AZ Controller > RT-21 Green Heron then Setup > EL/AZ+EL Controller
> RT-21 Green Heron
Dave-KB1PVH
Sent from my Galaxy S9
On Thu, May 7, 2020, 1:22 PM Peter <pgprendergast@?????.???> wrote:
> I'm not seeing the Green Herron dual alt az RT21 as a choice or even how
> to set its serial lports??
> Peter
>
> On Thursday, May 7, 2020, 12:57:50 PM EDT, Dave Webb KB1PVH <
> kb1pvh@?????.???> wrote:
>
>
> Peter,
>
> You can set DDE output in SatPC32 and also use a DDE client like the one
> from Green Heron called GH Tracker or what I do is run PSTrotator which
> supports the Green Heron for rotor control and run SatPC32 for radio
> control. Just be aware if you use DDE output you will lose the ability to
> park antennas after a pass and also the ability to have antennas start
> before a pass.
>
> Dave-KB1PVH
>
>
> Sent from my Galaxy S9
>
> On Thu, May 7, 2020, 12:52 PM Peter via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
> wrote:
>
> So, I do not see as a choice the Green Herron RT21 Alt Az
> rotorcontroller?????
> How can I get the program to control the antennas???ThanksPeterW2PP
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
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>
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Message: 14
Date: Thu, 7 May 2020 17:37:22 +0000 (UTC)
From: Peter <pgprendergast@?????.???>
To: Dave Webb KB1PVH <kb1pvh@?????.???>
Cc: AMSAT -BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] SatPC32 and the Green Herron Rotor Controller
Message-ID: <1934204096.2927348.1588873042507@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Got it. Thanks for that.So, how do you load in the satellites you want it
to track and provide next pass time/date?I see I managed somehow to get one
satellite into that window but I don't know how I did it?Is their a decent
manual someplace?Peter
On Thursday, May 7, 2020, 01:34:43 PM EDT, Dave Webb KB1PVH
<kb1pvh@?????.???> wrote:
Setup > AZ Controller > RT-21 Green Heron then Setup > EL/AZ+EL Controller
> RT-21 Green Heron
Dave-KB1PVH
Sent from my Galaxy S9
On Thu, May 7, 2020, 1:22 PM Peter <pgprendergast@?????.???> wrote:
I'm not seeing the Green Herron dual alt az RT21 as a choice or even how to
set its serial lports??Peter
On Thursday, May 7, 2020, 12:57:50 PM EDT, Dave Webb KB1PVH
<kb1pvh@?????.???> wrote:
Peter,
?You can set DDE output in SatPC32 and also use a DDE client like the one
from Green Heron called GH Tracker or? what I do is run PSTrotator which
supports the Green Heron for rotor control and run SatPC32 for radio
control. Just be aware if you use DDE output you will lose the ability to
park antennas after a pass and also the ability to have antennas start
before a pass.?
Dave-KB1PVH
Sent from my Galaxy S9
On Thu, May 7, 2020, 12:52 PM Peter via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
So, I do not see as a choice the Green Herron RT21 Alt Az rotorcontroller?????
How can I get the program to control the antennas???ThanksPeterW2PP
_______________________________________________
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to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
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