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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Membership Length (73 Bob W7LRD)
   2. AMSAT DMR TalkGroup 98006 (Michael Walker)
   3. 2m / 70cm ssb electronics (Rafael Pena)
   4. Re: AMSAT DMR TalkGroup 98006 (kb2mjeff@???.????
   5. Re: need HEO .. please.. (Joe Leikhim)
   6. GridMaster Award (Bruce)
   7. Re: need HEO .. please.. (Zach Metzinger)
   8. Re: Membership Length (Brennan Price)
   9. Re: AMSAT DMR TalkGroup 98006 (walterh@????.????
  10. Re: Satellite Users on Macs (Chris Thompson)
  11. Re: Satellite Users on Macs (Michael Walker)


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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2020 21:31:28 -0700 (PDT)
From: 73 Bob W7LRD <w7lrd@???????.???>
To: Jeff Johns <jeff30339@?????.???>,	Jeff Johns via AMSAT-BB
<amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Membership Length
Message-ID: <2034268674.3368.1592541088246@???????.???????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

donation
> On 06/18/2020 9:05 PM Jeff Johns via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>
>
> If someone joined and/or renewed their AMSAT membership, in person at
Hamvention 2019 (May 2019), why would their membership expire on 3/1/2020?
>
> I ask because both mine and my daughter?s memberships had this occur. We
were both shorted two months worth of membership. I?m curious if any other
members had this occur and if it?s related to the swap over to the new
member portal.
>
> To whom should affected members reach out to in order to have their
accounts credited for the missing months of membership?
>
> Jeff WE4B
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb


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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2020 08:20:44 -0400
From: Michael Walker <va3mw@??????????.???>
To: AMSAT <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT DMR TalkGroup 98006
Message-ID:
<CA+33ts4vkv=rt0unfU6E-Gim_M0T73emnAipfvuhDeecKwfq=A@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

I noticed that there is a DRM TalkGroup for Amast conversations.

Does it still get used or did it die a death?

We have one for Flex users and we are finding it getting used for technical
help and conversations.

You don't even need a DMR handheld to access it.   You will need a DVMega
DVStick though.

Mike va3mw


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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2020 12:51:37 +0000
From: Rafael Pena <pinoleronica@???????.???>
To: "amsat-bb@?????.???? <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] 2m / 70cm ssb electronics
Message-ID:
<DM5PR03MB32287FF5C5A6F0B20E6AF8C9C6980@?????????????.????????.????.???????.??
?>

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I've been using the 70cm pre-amp for a little while and a few days ago added
a brand new 2m one.   Both of them are installed on a small Glen Martin
tripod at roof top.  GM holds the Leo pack which connects to Icom 9100.  
Each ant has surge arrestors from Array Solutions

Could they live happy each other in that close range?    I noticed something
strange with my hearing my voice yesterday that I've never experience
before.   At some point, I sounded muddy but not to the other person.

It looks like I will have some good passes today.   I will be able to hear
it again or not.

Rafael / NN3RP

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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2020 09:19:21 -0400
From: <kb2mjeff@???.???>
To: "'Michael Walker'" <va3mw@??????????.???>
Cc: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AMSAT DMR TalkGroup 98006
Message-ID: <0f0701d6463c$3ede33a0$bc9a9ae0$@???.???>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

Yes 98006 is active every day.  I found one proposed group for a Flex
talkgroup 30299. Is this the one you're talking about?

73 Jeff kb2m



-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb-bounces@?????.???> On Behalf Of Michael Walker via
AMSAT-BB
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2020 8:21
To: AMSAT <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT DMR TalkGroup 98006

I noticed that there is a DRM TalkGroup for Amast conversations.

Does it still get used or did it die a death?

We have one for Flex users and we are finding it getting used for technical
help and conversations.

You don't even need a DMR handheld to access it.   You will need a DVMega
DVStick though.

Mike va3mw
_______________________________________________
Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all
interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official
views of AMSAT-NA.
Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb



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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2020 01:14:54 -0400
From: Joe Leikhim <rhyolite@???????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] need HEO .. please..
Message-ID: <3aac7d0c-6bb5-8dc6-5655-6c5574f78fa6@???????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed

Same boat here. I have kept my membership up, but life got into the way.
I would be back on in a flash if there were an AO-10 or Oscar 100.

I spent many hours and many kilobucks in gear on the old linear birds
and enjoyed it. But fighting the QRM on an FM LEO to talk with someone
down the road for 5 minutes is not worth the bother.

The problem is nobody has stepped up and said we could do an OSCAR 100
for $10 million so that folks can dig into their pockets.

And with the US ITAR we have alienated the rest of the globe where big
donations might come from. How many AMSAT members? That is the denominator.
$10 million/x


"In full disclosure, I have not operated satellite in about 15 years.
Several reasons for that, but I'm coming back.? After what seems like
almost every new satellite was a LEO digital bird, we have gotten a
number of analog birds in the past couple years.? I've got some work to
do to get the station back up, but I'm spending money to do that.? That
includes re-joining AMSAT-NA after a quite a few year gap.

And no, I can't write the 10 million dollar check either...

--
73
-------------------------------------
Jim Walls - K6CCC"

--
Joe Leikhim


Leikhim and Associates

Communications Consultants

Oviedo, Florida

JLeikhim@???????.???

407-982-0446

WWW.LEIKHIM.COM



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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2020 08:49:32 -0500
From: Bruce <kk5do@????.???>
To: "amsat-bb@?????.???? <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] GridMaster Award
Message-ID: <be162a1d-804c-5610-47f5-1d34215b273f@????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed

In case you have not perused the AMSAT.org website lately, the newest of
AMSAT Awards is available. It is the GridMaster award.

Although the award is not new new, it is new to AMSAT. It was developed
in 2014 by Star Comm Group. Thanks to Damon Runion, WA4HFN, and Rick
Tillman, WA4NVM, for having sponsored the award since its inception.
Now, AMSAT is taking the reins and will be issuing the award and it is
still free of charge as it will be sponsored by an anonymous donor.

The award is the same as the Fred Fish Memorial Award that is offered by
the ARRL but for any satellite operator that works and confirms all 488
continental U.S. grids.

You can view the award by clicking on Services, then Awards. You will
find the Application, Grid Schedule and sample of the required LoTW
verification (of course, paper QSL's are still accepted).

As 10 awards have been issued to date, who will be lucky number 11 and
the first issued by AMSAT?

73...bruce

--

Bruce Paige, KK5DO

AMSAT Director Contests and Awards
AMSAT Board Member 2016-2020

ARRL Awards Field Checker (WAS, 5BWAS, VUCC), VE

Houston AMSAT Net - Wed 0100z on Echolink - Conference *AMSAT*
Also live streaming MP3 at http://www.amsatnet.com
Podcast at http://www.amsatnet.com/podcast.xml or iTunes

Latest satellite news on the ARRL Audio News
http://www.arrl.org

AMSAT on Twitter http://www.twitter.com/amsat



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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2020 08:50:45 -0500
From: Zach Metzinger <zmetzing@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] need HEO .. please..
Message-ID: <3eb02cf4-4c6b-d8e6-c441-e5f8ff4ee212@?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed

On 06/18/20 20:10, Jim Walls via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> Absolutely loved AO-10 and AO-40 (sob) with their high orbits.? I would
> love to see another HEO to use.

N0JY presented an update back in 2019 which outlined the steps for the
new series, GOLF:

https://www.amsat.org/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/Hamcom-Engineering-
update.pdf

On slide 13, we can see that GOLF-1 has a proposed approximate orbit of
1200km, which is _almost_ MEO, so the program appears to be headed
toward those higher orbits.

Slides 14 and 15 show the new orbital debris regulatory challenges,
probably caused by the proliferation of space objects, that might be
causing some headaches for higher orbits. As Jerry mentions, the only
way to qualify a de-orbit device is to use it! So, you're throwing away
some money right on the first satellite. Ooof!

Could AMSAT get an exception to this? I don't know, but if everyone who
is interested in MEO/HEO would write their congresscritter in a polite
and informed way, perhaps they might help us out.

The world has changed, and we need to adapt to it.[1]

--- Zach
N0ZGO

[1] I definitely recommend that everyone read: "Who Moved My Cheese?",
Johnson, Spencer M.D., ASIN: B004CR6AM4.


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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2020 13:51:12 +0000 (UTC)
From: Brennan Price <brennanprice@???????.???>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Membership Length
Message-ID: <1006376905.565852.1592574672289@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Jeff (and all),

In response to the question of who maintains the membership records, that
would be the Secretary, which would be me. Members or potential members with
questions or concerns about their membership status can and should feel free
to contact me.

I prefer to assess and discuss individual cases off reflector, and I commit
to Jeff to do so in this instance.

73,
Brennan Price, N4QX
Secretary, AMSAT


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Message: 9
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2020 09:16:46 -0500
From: <walterh@????.???>
To: "'Michael Walker'" <va3mw@??????????.???>
Cc: 'AMSAT BB' <AMSAT-BB@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AMSAT DMR TalkGroup 98006
Message-ID: <00a701d64644$445b6890$cd1239b0$@????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

Yes, it is heavily used on a daily, and nightly basis. Come join us.

It is also bridged to the YSF US Amsat 11689 reflector as well.

Join us for the Amsat net on Wednesday evenings 9:00pm cdt.


In addition, I just created a new DSTAR Amsat talkgroup XLX028 for module C.

The Dstar reflector is not bridged in yet, as we are still doing some
testing with that, but it will soon be bridged in with the DMR ad YSF areas,
so it will be seamless from any of those digital methods.

Drop by and join the group.

All the best,
Walter/K5WH

-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb-bounces@?????.???> On Behalf Of Michael Walker via
AMSAT-BB
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2020 7:21 AM
To: AMSAT <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT DMR TalkGroup 98006

I noticed that there is a DRM TalkGroup for Amast conversations.

Does it still get used or did it die a death?

We have one for Flex users and we are finding it getting used for technical
help and conversations.

You don't even need a DMR handheld to access it.   You will need a DVMega
DVStick though.

Mike va3mw
_______________________________________________
Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all
interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official
views of AMSAT-NA.
Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb



------------------------------

Message: 10
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2020 10:43:28 -0400
From: Chris Thompson <g0kla@????.???>
To: AMSAT <AMSAT-BB@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Satellite Users on Macs
Message-ID:
<CAJOf0+vA9_ePR_SK2TycgrttZw3ty66mDKEs1W1Y-Z1d05ox8Q@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

I will add that I try to make all the AMSAT software I write work on the
Mac, but it is not as easy to install as it is on Linux/Windows.  Apple
puts more layers of protection in place and makes it harder for independent
developers to release software and tools.  The good news is that you can
probably trust professionally released software more on the Mac, but it is
a hurdle for people doing this in their spare time.

I'm hoping that someone will say "it's easy to release software on the Mac,
let me help you Chris" but otherwise I will keep putting out things that
are usable even if they require a bit of fiddling.  I'm always happy to
help anyone that is having trouble getting the software to run.

73
Chris
g0kla / ac2cz

On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 9:36 PM Greg D via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
wrote:

> {Psssst...}  Linux is free and works very well...
>
> Greg  KO6TH
>
>
> Richard Lawn via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> > I understand. I?ve just had a whole series of issues with the home
> network
> > and and a bunch of other things. I too have to admit that the reasonS I
> > left using macs
> > became numerous and I?m able to do everything and more especially in ham
> > radio with the windows computer.
> > 73
> > Rick
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 8:26 PM Michael Walker <va3mw@??????????.???>
> wrote:
> >
> >> I will be honest.
> >>
> >> I own both windows and Mac computers and I use them both extensively. I
> >> can honestly say both have their problems. My Mac drives me absolutely
> >> crazy with display issues and today was no exception on when I lost a
> zoom
> >> call somewhere in their graphics card and I could not bring the focus
> back
> >> to it but the call went on. I had to reboot the Mac eventually.
> >>
> >> So no matter which platform you choose expect some technical issues that
> >> you will have to work to resolve.
> >>
> >> I have to say right now That my windows 10 pro platform is by far the
> most
> >> stable.
> >>
> >> Mike VA3MW
> >>
> >>> On Jun 18, 2020, at 8:11 PM, Paul Stoetzer via AMSAT-BB <
> >> amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
> >>> ?Dog Park Software makes everything you need satellite tracking and
> >> logging!
> >>> I have limited experience with the software (I do have an old MacBook
> >> Air,
> >>> but don?t use it very often) but everything I?ve heard about it is that
> >> it
> >>> works great.
> >>>
> >>> https://dogparksoftware.com/
> >>>
> >>> MacDoppler is also available through the AMSAT store and AMSAT gets a
> >>> portion of the proceeds.
> >>>
> >>> https://www.amsat.org/product/macdoppler/
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> 73,
> >>>
> >>> Paul Stoetzer, N8HM
> >>> Executive Vice President
> >>> AMSAT
> >>>
> >>>> On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 20:04 Richard Lawn via AMSAT-BB <
> >> amsat-bb@?????.???>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Every now and then I get sick of dealing with Windows updates and
> >>>> particularly the dreaded updates and think about going back to using
> an
> >>>> Apple computer. I'd be interested in learning how many of you are
> using
> >>>> Apple computers with Apple software. Let me hear from you please.
> >>>>
> >>>> 73
> >>>> Rick, W2JAZ
> >>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> >>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> >> Opinions
> >>>> expressed
> >>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
> of
> >>>> AMSAT-NA.
> >>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> >> program!
> >>>> Subscription settings:
> https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> >>>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> >>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> >> Opinions expressed
> >>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
> of
> >> AMSAT-NA.
> >>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> >> program!
> >>> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>


--
Chris E. Thompson
chrisethompson@?????.???
g0kla@????.???


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Message: 11
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2020 11:28:01 -0400
From: Michael Walker <va3mw@??????????.???>
To: AMSAT <AMSAT-BB@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Satellite Users on Macs
Message-ID:
<CA+33ts4Dh8K-ys0WZ+_cuoH8CbX2tPAH2hUpF3WDodv_hpGgHA@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

I made a comment about MACs and Window devices earlier and I wanted to
stress it is a personal preference.

I also wanted to make it very clear that this has nothing to do with those
that write software for either Windows or MACs.

Those people are amazing and to put it in perspective, they have hundreds
of thousands of lines of code and time invested in their applications.
They do it because they want to contribute and they love what they do.

They don't do it to make a living.

At least not in the Amateur World since we are all cheap.  :)   I know what
it takes to write an application, make it work, release it and then support
it.  The product support post sale is a time killer.

For all of you, I thank you for all your time and dedication to the hobby.
Without it, we would all still be using things like the original Amsat
wheel.  I know I still have mine somewhere.

If I offended any of you, my apologies.

Mike va3mw




On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 10:44 AM Chris Thompson via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:

> I will add that I try to make all the AMSAT software I write work on the
> Mac, but it is not as easy to install as it is on Linux/Windows.  Apple
> puts more layers of protection in place and makes it harder for independent
> developers to release software and tools.  The good news is that you can
> probably trust professionally released software more on the Mac, but it is
> a hurdle for people doing this in their spare time.
>
> I'm hoping that someone will say "it's easy to release software on the Mac,
> let me help you Chris" but otherwise I will keep putting out things that
> are usable even if they require a bit of fiddling.  I'm always happy to
> help anyone that is having trouble getting the software to run.
>
> 73
> Chris
> g0kla / ac2cz
>
> On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 9:36 PM Greg D via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
> wrote:
>
> > {Psssst...}  Linux is free and works very well...
> >
> > Greg  KO6TH
> >
> >
> > Richard Lawn via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> > > I understand. I?ve just had a whole series of issues with the home
> > network
> > > and and a bunch of other things. I too have to admit that the reasonS I
> > > left using macs
> > > became numerous and I?m able to do everything and more especially in
> ham
> > > radio with the windows computer.
> > > 73
> > > Rick
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 8:26 PM Michael Walker <va3mw@??????????.???>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >> I will be honest.
> > >>
> > >> I own both windows and Mac computers and I use them both extensively.
> I
> > >> can honestly say both have their problems. My Mac drives me absolutely
> > >> crazy with display issues and today was no exception on when I lost a
> > zoom
> > >> call somewhere in their graphics card and I could not bring the focus
> > back
> > >> to it but the call went on. I had to reboot the Mac eventually.
> > >>
> > >> So no matter which platform you choose expect some technical issues
> that
> > >> you will have to work to resolve.
> > >>
> > >> I have to say right now That my windows 10 pro platform is by far the
> > most
> > >> stable.
> > >>
> > >> Mike VA3MW
> > >>
> > >>> On Jun 18, 2020, at 8:11 PM, Paul Stoetzer via AMSAT-BB <
> > >> amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
> > >>> ?Dog Park Software makes everything you need satellite tracking and
> > >> logging!
> > >>> I have limited experience with the software (I do have an old MacBook
> > >> Air,
> > >>> but don?t use it very often) but everything I?ve heard about it is
> that
> > >> it
> > >>> works great.
> > >>>
> > >>> https://dogparksoftware.com/
> > >>>
> > >>> MacDoppler is also available through the AMSAT store and AMSAT gets a
> > >>> portion of the proceeds.
> > >>>
> > >>> https://www.amsat.org/product/macdoppler/
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> 73,
> > >>>
> > >>> Paul Stoetzer, N8HM
> > >>> Executive Vice President
> > >>> AMSAT
> > >>>
> > >>>> On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 20:04 Richard Lawn via AMSAT-BB <
> > >> amsat-bb@?????.???>
> > >>>> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Every now and then I get sick of dealing with Windows updates and
> > >>>> particularly the dreaded updates and think about going back to using
> > an
> > >>>> Apple computer. I'd be interested in learning how many of you are
> > using
> > >>>> Apple computers with Apple software. Let me hear from you please.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> 73
> > >>>> Rick, W2JAZ
> > >>>> _______________________________________________
> > >>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum
> available
> > >>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> > >> Opinions
> > >>>> expressed
> > >>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official
> views
> > of
> > >>>> AMSAT-NA.
> > >>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> > >> program!
> > >>>> Subscription settings:
> > https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> > >>>>
> > >>> _______________________________________________
> > >>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum
> available
> > >>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> > >> Opinions expressed
> > >>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
> > of
> > >> AMSAT-NA.
> > >>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> > >> program!
> > >>> Subscription settings:
> https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions
> > expressed
> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> > AMSAT-NA.
> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
> > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> >
>
>
> --
> Chris E. Thompson
> chrisethompson@?????.???
> g0kla@????.???
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>


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without requiring membership.  Opinions expressed
are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
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End of AMSAT-BB Digest, Vol 15, Issue 204
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