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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Directors Stoddard and Thompson (Michelle Thompson)
2. Re: WA9JBQ Request (Kevin) (Brad Smith)
3. Elect New, Honorable, Board Members (Brad Smith)
4. Re: WA9JBQ Request (Kevin) (Kevin)
5. Re: WA9JBQ Request (Kevin) (Robert Bankston)
6. Re: huskysat-1 (Jerry Buxton)
7. Re: WA9JBQ Request (Kevin) (Jeff Davis)
8. Re: Foolishness (Rich Gopstein)
9. Re: WA9JBQ Request (Kevin) (Steve Kristoff)
10. Proposal for new list (Zach Metzinger)
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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2020 18:37:48 +0000
From: Michelle Thompson <mountain.michelle@?????.???>
To: Bob Hammond <propgrinder@?????.???>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Directors Stoddard and Thompson
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I recommend researching the bios of the people running for the Board for
2020 election.
The incumbents have tried to make this about currently serving Directors,
as if it's a referendum on our oversight. If that's the case, then good.
Let them.
If the membership wants clean and transparent financial behavior, then
please replace the men that secretly hired a law firm and blocked access to
corporate records and communications.
They have admitted they secretly hired this firm, admitted that the
demand letter was the only reason they restored access, and have halted
regular meetings.
How can one productively work with people that refuse to even meet?
Please send volunteers to the board that won't act like this. There will be
significant and long-lasting improvement. This will take a lot of work.
However, everyone will get increased benefit from your membership dues,
better communications, and a better volunteer experience across the
organization.
-Michelle W5NYV
On Sat, Jul 11, 2020 at 2:43 PM Bob Hammond via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
wrote:
> I am able to find Director Thompson's bio but I'm unable to find anything
> about Director Stoddard. Is there a bio with work history, background,
> education, volunteer work, and so on?
>
> I'm curious.
>
> Bob W7OTJ
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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2020 18:57:09 +0000 (UTC)
From: Brad Smith <corlissbs@???.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] WA9JBQ Request (Kevin)
Message-ID: <1186842614.210684.1594493829693@????.?????.???>
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<And how would you describe the ethics of the two newest boardmembers each
creating online blogs where they cast doubt on AMSAT andthe people running
it? A little over a month on the BOD and in Octalready on that blog posting
grievances.>
Rememnber, the new members were duly elected and then discriminated against
because the board didn't like the fact that they won. So, they were given a
"junior' status, which is not what we elected them to be. That is dirty
pool. Very unethical.
Brad KC9UQR
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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2020 19:03:30 +0000 (UTC)
From: Brad Smith <corlissbs@???.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] Elect New, Honorable, Board Members
Message-ID: <1353931617.208585.1594494210641@????.?????.???>
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<Amen. Let's get this off the list and back to playing with radio.>
We need a board that we can trust and this board is not trustworthy to
led,nor spend the finances in aan ethical manor. I have received emails from
members, on both sides of the issue. One asked me how I know the moneys
spent were donations. So, I now ask the Board, where did the funds ($18 k)
come from that you spent to bury Patrick and Michelle?
73 Brad KC9UQR
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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2020 13:19:19 -0700
From: Kevin <wa7fwf@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] WA9JBQ Request (Kevin)
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?? Brad,
??? Now that I have had time to read most of the wd9ewk blogs and
links, it's clear to me that he has an ax to grind against multiple
people in the AMSAT organization, some of it going back years.
? The ink had barely dried on the ballots and he was already making
claims of poor treatment, maybe some who have tangled with him in the
past were not excited that he was elected, that's human nature.
?? But seriously, his? Sept 30th entry "Unfortunately, AMSAT President
Joe Spier K6WAO has not shown leadership in the transition to the
newly-elected Board and its preparations for the upcoming meeting in
Virginia, and this is disappointing. "? can you honestly look me in the
eye and say this is acceptable for someone who has just got onto the BOD
to say in a online blog? How could this ever be considered productive?
??? And then you expect everyone to ignore that and welcome him? Then
you read further and he proclaims that he is not sad at Joe resigning
and that he had called for his resignation the previous summer over
another matter!
? No , I'm sorry but the more I read the more I believe He came in with
a attitude of wanting to make trouble.
?That's my opinion, others should read the blog and links from the
beginning to end with a open mind? and ask, does this look like someone
trying to make it work or someone looking for any reason to complain and
then post it online to create trouble for AMSAT?
keep in mind you are seeing a one sided blog only from the person who is
not happy.
http://amsat.wd9ewk.net/ <http://amsat.wd9ewk.net/>
Every member should read it, and then each decide for themselves if it's
an honest effort for progress or one huge complaint session.
Kevin WA7FWF #19623
On 7/11/2020 11:57 AM, Brad Smith via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> <And how would you describe the ethics of the two newest boardmembers each
creating online blogs where they cast doubt on AMSAT andthe people running
it? A little over a month on the BOD and in Octalready on that blog posting
grievances.>
> Rememnber, the new members were duly elected and then discriminated
against because the board didn't like the fact that they won. So, they were
given a "junior' status, which is not what we elected them to be. That is
dirty pool. Very unethical.
> Brad KC9UQR
>
> _______________________________________________
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> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2020 20:34:35 +0000 (UTC)
From: Robert Bankston <ke4al@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] WA9JBQ Request (Kevin)
Message-ID: <1442215093.239842.1594499675615@????.?????.???>
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Patrick Stoddard and Michelle Thompson were emplaced on the Board as
Directors and aforded the same rights and privileges as the the other
elected and standing Directors.? No one treated them as "second class"
Directors.? In fact, every effort was made to welcome them on the Board.
?Stoddard and Thompson had the ability to make motions, lead discussions and
vote, just as the other five directors, and they did.???At no time were
either of them prevented from doing their elected duties.? To say otherwise
is a completely FALSE statement.?AMSAT is a nonprofit corporation with the
purpose of designing, building, launching, operating and promoting amateur
radio satellites and space communications.? AMSAT's leadership and
volunteers work every day to do this.? We have a lot of opportunities on the
horizon with GOLF-TEE, GOLF-1, our return to high Earth Orbits, and
AREx.???AMSAT is no place for politics and political rhetoric.? Let's get
back to work.????Robert, KE4AL
TreasurerVice-President, User ServicesDirector, AMSAT AmbassadorsRadio
Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT)
On Saturday, July 11, 2020, 01:58:16 PM CDT, Brad Smith via AMSAT-BB
<amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
<And how would you describe the ethics of the two newest boardmembers each
creating online blogs where they cast doubt on AMSAT andthe people running
it? A little over a month on the BOD and in Octalready on that blog posting
grievances.>
Rememnber, the new members were duly elected and then discriminated against
because the board didn't like the fact that they won. So, they were given a
"junior' status, which is not what we elected them to be. That is dirty
pool. Very unethical.
Brad KC9UQR
_______________________________________________
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to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
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Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2020 15:48:08 -0500
From: Jerry Buxton <n0jy@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] huskysat-1
Message-ID: <3123473f-24d3-5674-e6f9-09f54af9de4f@?????.???>
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On 7/10/2020 09:47, Scott via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> I have tried the linear transponder numerous times & as recently as a day
> or two ago with nothing heard.
>
> On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 9:13 AM Rosa & Robert Fitzpatrick via AMSAT-BB <
> amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>> what is the latest status on huskysat-1.thank you bob/kb5sqgGranbury tx
>>
>
While it is disappointing that the transponder did not see a longer
period of use following the science missions, the overall
HuskySat-1/HO-107 project and mission were quite beneficial for our
partner and for AMSAT.? The HuskySat-1 team were able to command their
satellite and experiments and receive the telemetry they sought, and
AMSAT was able to work through the extensive process of making a new
design for a "black box" radio module that can be integrated into a
non-AMSAT spacecraft and fly in the space environment.?
The LTM (Linear Transponder Module) on HO-107 worked for over three
months after HuskySat-1 came alive following its deployment.
The failure of the LTM came during or just after a period of full sun
where LTM temperatures reached over 80 degrees Celsius.
While licensed and operated as an amateur radio satellite by AMSAT
during the transponder use, there are some facts that set HO-107 apart
from our Fox-1 CubeSats and other AMSAT satellites.
1. It's not our satellite.? We have no control and may not have any
insight into how a partner actually uses the LTM.? While we see the LTM
temperatures and many of the other typical data fields that we downlink
to FoxTelem regarding LTM health, data such as temperature of the host
environment as well as other specific information like power and the
state of the other systems in a host satellite may or may not be
available to us.? Whether LTM is operated within design limits is
entirely up to the host.?
The University of Washington HuskySat Labs team was very cooperative
with us on this mission, however there are things regarding their
mission that we do not know because they are processing and studying
their data for use in their thesis and classes and preparing it for
release in a specific way typical of such an institution today.? AMSAT
is generally more forthcoming with information about our missions but
what we can and have said about this mission is determined by UW.
That is really no different to certain aspects of our own missions.?
Most members are likely familiar with the vague wording I provide for
some of our launch timelines and that is the result of the same thing,
in the owner of the launch vehicle or LSP/APIC determining what we can
say to the public and when.
2.? HO-107 was the first ever use of a new product, the AMSAT LTM.? The
LTM idea was first put forth at the AMSAT leadership strategic planning
meeting in 2017 and is now coming into availability for other non-AMSAT
CubeSats to fly amateur radio on their mission.
HO-107 is the pilot production of LTM and was developed in partnership
with UW HuskySat-1.? It was the first CubeSat radio module designed and
built by AMSAT for use in other host CubeSats, and UW was key in working
with us through the design and processes needed to provide such a
module.? They did not buy it as, nor did we give it to them as an "off
the shelf" product as we plan to for future LTM production.? LTM was
developed from the Fox-1E linear transponder design, and provided in a
partnership with UW that started in November 2014 when we made an
agreement with University of Washington to fly an amateur radio on their
CubeSat mission.? Overall, the HuskySat-1 team were quite happy with the
telemetry and command performance even with the LTM anomalies showing up
toward the end of their experiments.? In the process of getting
HuskySat-1 to orbit several students became interested in amateur radio,
and we have already had preliminary discussions of future joint mission
plans.
The ability to provide more LTM to new and future partners will increase
the number of orbiting satellites carrying amateur radio, at a low cost
to AMSAT and the partner, keeping amateur radio in space even as we
develop newer and more capable satellites.? There is no doubt that
HO-107 was a success in many ways beyond the operational life of the
transponder.?
As usual, the AMSAT Engineering team of volunteers deserve the praise
for putting yet another amateur radio in space be it in our own
satellite, or in a partner satellite!
Jerry Buxton, N?JY
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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2020 17:18:17 -0400
From: Jeff Davis <ke9v@???.???>
To: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] WA9JBQ Request (Kevin)
Message-ID: <B115810F-3176-44C0-B025-1E3FDB79B549@???.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> On Jul 11, 2020, at 2:57 PM, Brad Smith via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
wrote:
>
> Rememnber, the new members were duly elected and then discriminated
against because the board didn't like the fact that they won. So, they were
given a "junior' status, which is not what we elected them to be. That is
dirty pool. Very unethical.
> Brad KC9UQR
This really is the crux of the matter. Dues paying members elect a certain
number of board members each cycle and if the other board members ?refuse?
to work with or acknowledge the new members (or choose to prevent them from
receiving access to corporate information that they are entitled to receive,
etc) then the entire process of voting seems a pointless exercise - as does
any reason for being a dues paying member.
Anyone can chase satellites without ever paying a dime, more do than don?t.
And despite what you think you know, it?s impossible for the general
?membership? to really know what?s going on here.
?Just trust us? never feels like a good answer even if it?s sometimes right.
Leaders may be telling the truth or lying through their teeth. We have no
way of knowing for certain who is telling the truth here. Making up your
mind will require choosing sides and dividing members in the process and
that?s not comfortable for anyone but it?s what?s happening at the moment.
I?d like to know why the President resigned? Surely a couple of blog posts
didn?t break his will? Since I?m forced to speculate maybe he saw a peck of
trouble coming and wanted out of the role, but I don?t know for certain, do
I? And given the timing of all this, I?d also like to know if this is
related to the recent ARISS divorce from AMSAT? I have no reason to believe
it is - but I have no reason to believe it isn?t.
I?m just as curious why K6BP shows up on an annual basis to tell us who we
should vote for? So far as I can tell, he's not an active satellite
enthusiast and has very little to say about this facet of the hobby until
election time when suddenly he reveals our numerous BIG problems and
proceeds to tell us who we should vote for to fix those problems. He seems
like an interloper to me, but again, I don?t know. Hell, he might actually
own AMSAT for all I know?
Bottom line: throw everything written here in the dumpster and make one
simple change. Require members of the BoD to publish a list of potential BoD
members that they are going to refuse to work before every election. I?m no
longer interested in wasting time voting without that advance guidance.
Jeff, KE9V
AMSAT 28350
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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2020 17:25:00 -0400
From: Rich Gopstein <rich@????????????.???>
To: Michelle Thompson <mountain.michelle@?????.???>
Cc: Amsat - BBs <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Foolishness
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Thanks Michelle. I did not intend to imply that people associated with ORI
shouldn't be on the AMSAT board. I'm trying to understand if there's an
agenda behind a multi-year attempt at getting a majority on the AMSAT board
- including very public accusations against the existing board and
leadership.
I think that would help people make up their mind about how to vote.
Rich
KD2CQ
On Sat, Jul 11, 2020 at 2:23 PM Michelle Thompson <
mountain.michelle@?????.???> wrote:
> I can speak to this. Thank you for the opportunity.
>
> It's the other way around. ORI provides all engineering to the general
> public, free of charge.
>
> We've pledged our successful fundraising to directly benefit AMSAT in
> every way we know how. We've done significant legal and regulatory work to
> reduce ITAR/EAR burden, produced a wide variety of software and firmware,
> and now have the funds to prototype the hardware required for microwave
> broadband communications payloads.
>
> We've published open source implementations of the best forward error
> correction codes that exist. We just bought a full Vivado floating license
> that anyone in the community can use.
>
> The board and associate members (we have no paid members, so we don't even
> compete there) have been completely transparent about the intent and
> purpose of the engineering done by ORI.
>
> ORI is a Member Society of AMSAT.
>
> It's odd how ORI is portrayed here, yet Directors current and previous
> that have dual roles - such as working for NASA, working at Universities
> with commercial satellite projects, and working for commercial satellite
> companies - simply never get any criticism for using AMSAT to help their
> career or projects. In many cases, AMSAT has been used to further outside
> or commercial careers. Many of these people are unquestionably celebrated.
>
> When someone (like myself) that starts a successful 501(c)(3) that works
> in the opposite direction - freely giving to the organization and
> supporting it whenever possible - one would hope it would be perceived as a
> positive.
>
> All of this engineering and fundraising was the exact sort of thing I was
> doing within AMSAT engineering. When Joe Spier shut down the entire
> project, the dozens of people on the team asked if we could keep going.
> Bruce Perens was instrumental here in helping set up a 501(c)(3) that could
> operate as a research institute. And the rest is documented on our website.
>
> While people like me shouldn't have to set up an entirely independent
> formal structure to volunteer for the AMSAT community, it has turned out to
> be fun, successful, and quite complementary to AMSAT's aims and purposes.
>
> ORI is not a membership organization. It's not in competition for members.
> We sign up AMSAT members at every event we hold. We promote AMSAT publicly.
>
> If the leadership of AMSAT really wants to view organizations like ORI as
> some sort of threat or crisis, then they are deliberately choosing to be
> anti-collaborative.
>
> If you have to have Directors that don't have any other interests outside
> AMSAT, then you will end up with people that don't bring things like a
> strong network, experiences, or other organizational assets to the job.
>
> Should Tom Clark have been thrown off the AMSAT board because he was also
> on the Virginia Tech Space Advisory Board? Should Brennan Price not be
> Secretary because he works for Inmarsat?
>
> The opposite is also true. Ordinary people with ordinary common sense
> should also be in leadership. Diversity on the board can only improve it.
>
> -Michelle W5NYV
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jul 11, 2020 at 1:43 PM Rich Gopstein via AMSAT-BB <
> amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>
>> I'm guessing it's more complex than that. I suspect this is really about
>> ORI and trying to get AMSAT to outsource their satellite engineering to
>> ORI. MIchelle Thompson is the CEO of ORI...
>>
>> https://openresearch.institute/board-of-directors/
>>
>> Rich, KD2CQ
>> AMSAT life member
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 11, 2020 at 8:34 AM John Spasojevich via AMSAT-BB <
>> amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>>
>> > All reads to me like a couple people broke into the old boys club and
>> > weren?t welcomed to the playground. AMSAT has been run by the same
>> people
>> > for years and years and years. Then again not many run for office so our
>> > choices are limited.
>> >
>> > John AG9D
>> >
>> > On Saturday, July 11, 2020, Nick Pugh via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > > This is a hobby
>> > >
>> > > Spending money on lawyer instead of satellite is dumb
>> > >
>> > > My hope is you get on a Zoom call and put the fire out and take us to
>> HEO
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Nickk k5qxj
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Cell 337 258 2527
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Helping UL become a world Class Engineering and Educational School
>> > >
>> > > Disagree I Learn
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > _______________________________________________
>> > > Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>> > Opinions
>> > > expressed
>> > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
>> of
>> > > AMSAT-NA.
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>> > >
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>> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>> Opinions
>> > expressed
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>> _______________________________________________
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>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>> Opinions expressed
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>> AMSAT-NA.
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>
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Message: 9
Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2020 17:31:46 -0400
From: "Steve Kristoff" <skristof@???????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] WA9JBQ Request (Kevin)
Message-ID: <c388d5f6929800c63905dc083f0432b9@???????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
But what about all the money (members dues money!) spent on lawyers instead
of satellites? And after consulting with the lawyers the president resigns?!
Seems to me like it's time to clean house.
?Steve AI9IN
----- Original Message -----
From: Robert Bankston via AMSAT-BB (amsat-bb@?????.????
Date: 07/11/20 16:39
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] WA9JBQ Request (Kevin)
Patrick Stoddard and Michelle Thompson were emplaced on the Board as
Directors and aforded the same rights and privileges as the the other
elected and standing Directors. ?No one treated them as "second class"
Directors. ?In fact, every effort was made to welcome them on the Board.
Stoddard and Thompson had the ability to make motions, lead discussions and
vote, just as the other five directors, and they did. ? At no time were
either of them prevented from doing their elected duties. ?To say otherwise
is a completely FALSE statement. AMSAT is a nonprofit corporation with the
purpose of designing, building, launching, operating and promoting amateur
radio satellites and space communications. ?AMSAT's leadership and
volunteers work every day to do this. ?We have a lot of opportunities on the
horizon with GOLF-TEE, GOLF-1, our return to high Earth Orbits, and AREx. ?
AMSAT is no place for politics and political rhetoric. ?Let's get back to
work. ? ?Robert, KE4AL
TreasurerVice-President, User ServicesDirector, AMSAT AmbassadorsRadio
Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT)
? ?On Saturday, July 11, 2020, 01:58:16 PM CDT, Brad Smith via AMSAT-BB
<amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote: ?
<And how would you describe the ethics of the two newest boardmembers each
creating online blogs where they cast doubt on AMSAT andthe people running
it? A little over a month on the BOD and in Octalready on that blog posting
grievances.>
Rememnber, the new members were duly elected and then discriminated against
because the board didn't like the fact that they won. So, they were given a
"junior' status, which is not what we elected them to be. That is dirty
pool. Very unethical.
Brad KC9UQR
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Message: 10
Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2020 16:55:05 -0500
From: Zach Metzinger <zmetzing@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] Proposal for new list
Message-ID: <67a0e381-b519-4ba8-6b88-f7570fda7023@?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
Hello all,
I propose that a new list be created, separate from amsat-bb, for
discussion of administrative issues regarding AMSAT. This would improve
the SNR of amsat-bb for those of us who just want to play radio and work
satellites.
Thanks,
--- Zach
N0ZGO
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