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Today's Topics:
1. Latest PSAT pass (Steve Kristoff)
2. 1707z PSAT pass (David W0DHB)
3. change in the activation of the ISS digipeater
(Pablo J.M. - LW8EXS)
4. Re: 1707z PSAT pass (Alan)
5. PSAT 20:30u Orbit214 (KO6TZ Bob)
6. PSAT telemetry (Pablo J.M. - LW8EXS)
7. Re: PSAT telemetry (Robert Bruninga)
8. Best Mast mount PA/LNA? (Robert Bruninga)
9. Re: Best Mast mount PA/LNA? (Stefan Wagener)
10. Re: Best Mast mount PA/LNA? (Paul Stoetzer)
11. Re: Best Mast mount PA/LNA? (Dave Webb KB1PVH)
12. Re: Best Mast mount PA/LNA? (David L Warnberg)
13. PSAT Orbit-228 (KO6TZ Bob)
14. Re: PSAT Orbit-228 (Steve Kristoff)
15. report PSAT-1 (Pablo J.M. - LW8EXS)
16. Re: PSAT Orbit-228 (KO6TZ Bob)
17. Re: PSAT paths (Robert Bruninga)
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2015 13:26:01 -0400
From: Steve Kristoff <skristof@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Latest PSAT pass
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Did a little better on the recent PSAT pass (1710 - 1722 UTC). I received
three telemetry packets (the spin telemetry packet made it to the list on
pcsat.aprs.org ) and a packet from K1WY. Did not receive any
acknowledgments of my transmitted packets.
Steve AI9IN
EM79ji
Oldenburg IN
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2015 11:32:09 -0600
From: "David W0DHB" <dave@xxxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] 1707z PSAT pass
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This last pass of PSAT (26deg peak here) I could see packets but never
strong enough to decode.
I know from APRS.fi that some folks are copying.
Also noticed that end of the pass it appeared on the waterfall it was
digipeating me, but I couldn't decode.
I will try again 1846z pass which is 49 deg here.
Dave W0DHB
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2015 15:44:39 -0300
From: "Pablo J.M. - LW8EXS" <lw8exs@xxxxx.xxx.xx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] change in the activation of the ISS digipeater
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change in the activation of the ISS digipeater
usually in South America with RS0ISS , RS0ISS -1 could activate your digi,
but now is working with " ARISS "
73s and good contacts !
LW8EXS
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2015 14:56:17 -0500
From: Alan <wa4sca@xxxxx.xxx>
To: "'David W0DHB'" <dave@xxxxx.xxx>, <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] 1707z PSAT pass
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Dave,
I was mostly calibrating the rig, but got several packets on the 1852Z pass.
It was only a maximum of
11 degrees and was very weak. I used the UZ7HO software rather than the
usual MixW. The previous
pass, where I was working with the PSK31 downlink was exceptionally loud.
1:Fm PSAT To APRSON Via ARISS <UI R Pid=F0 Len=34> [13:52:29R]
T#917,825,363,128,129,413,00000000
1:Fm PSAT To APRSON Via ARISS <UI R Pid=F0 Len=34> [13:54:31R]
T#919,878,075,129,129,413,00000000
1:Fm PSAT To APRSON Via ARISS <UI R Pid=F0 Len=52> [13:54:34R]
s#013632,0z200,GeeGedGedGecGfbFfbFf0EfBEfCDfDDfDDfD
1:Fm PSAT To APRSON Via ARISS <UI R Pid=F0 Len=52> [13:56:09R]
s#013633,0z200,CfDDfDDfDDfDDfDEfDFfDGfDGfDGeBHe0Hea
1:Fm PSAT To APRSON Via ARISS <UI R Pid=F0 Len=34> [13:56:33R]
T#921,815,358,128,128,412,00000000
1:Fm PSAT To APRSON Via ARISS <UI R Pid=F0 Len=34> [13:57:34R]
T#922,820,359,128,128,412,00000000
1:Fm PSAT To APRSON Via ARISS <UI R Pid=F0 Len=52> [13:57:42R]
s#013634,0z200,HdaHcbIbbHacH0cHCcHDcHEcGFcGFcEFcDFc
73s,
Alan
WA4SCA
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 03 Jun 2015 13:47:44 -0700
From: KO6TZ Bob <my.callsign@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT 20:30u Orbit214
Message-ID: <556F67F0.1090602@xxxxxxx.xxx>
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I displayed 5 telemetry packets, could not digi any packets, this was a
nice 22deg pass. Also I did not see anyone else digi any packets.
Is the APRS Digi turned on and working for anyone else ? The <UI> path
says APRSON.
KO6TZ Bob
1:Fm PSAT To APRSON Via ARISS <UI pid=F0 Len=34 >[13:26:53]
T#010,858,070,130,129,413,00000000
1:Fm PSAT To APRSON Via ARISS <UI pid=F0 Len=34 >[13:27:54]
T#011,858,072,130,129,413,00000000
1:Fm PSAT To APRSON Via ARISS <UI pid=F0 Len=34 >[13:28:55]
T#012,870,070,129,128,413,00000000
1:Fm PSAT To APRSON Via ARISS <UI pid=F0 Len=52 >[13:31:13]
s#013694,0z200,GAdG0dG0cGacGabGaaGbBFaCFbDFbDFbDFbE
1:Fm PSAT To APRSON Via ARISS <UI pid=F0 Len=34 >[13:31:58]
T#015,866,088,129,128,412,00000000
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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2015 00:48:50 -0300
From: "Pablo J.M. - LW8EXS" <lw8exs@xxxxx.xxx.xx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT telemetry
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Jun 4, 2015
03:39 UTC
2:Fm PSAT To APRSON Via ARISS <UI R Pid=F0 Len=52> [00:39:15R]
s#013984,0z200,000000000000000000000000000000000000
73s de LW8EXS
Mercedes ( Buenos Aires ) Argentina
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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2015 08:35:02 -0400
From: Robert Bruninga <bruninga@xxxx.xxx>
To: "Pablo J.M. - LW8EXS" <lw8exs@xxxxx.xxx.xx>, amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] PSAT telemetry
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Thanks.
It was in the dark, so no sun data..
bob
-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On Behalf Of Pablo J.M.
- LW8EXS
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2015 11:49 PM
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT telemetry
Jun 4, 2015
03:39 UTC
2:Fm PSAT To APRSON Via ARISS <UI R Pid=F0 Len=52> [00:39:15R]
s#013984,0z200,000000000000000000000000000000000000
73s de LW8EXS
Mercedes ( Buenos Aires ) Argentina
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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2015 09:11:50 -0400
From: Robert Bruninga <bruninga@xxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Best Mast mount PA/LNA?
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What is the best mast-mount PA / LNA on the market these days.
Our old TE Systems amps are now over 15 years old and have only mildly been
protected from the weather.
Since I am not hearing as well as some other stations, maybe it is time to
replace/upgrade?
The TE systems had a low noise preamp for receive and 100W amp for TX.
We need the amp because we have 150? of coax to the roof.
Do they still make ?em?
So whats out there?
Bob, Wb4APR
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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2015 08:43:07 -0500
From: Stefan Wagener <wageners@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Robert Bruninga <bruninga@xxxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Best Mast mount PA/LNA?
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Hi Bob,
As you know, the best "PA/LNA" is actually the antenna. There is only so
much "signal" out there and if the antenna does not pick it up well the
PA/LNA will not do much either. It was always designed to "just" overcome
signal loss due to cable length/quality. Short of that, the SSB preamps
(SSB Germany) are some of the best with adjustable gain and very low noise
figures. However, you pay for it too :-)
73, Stefan VE4NSA
On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 8:11 AM, Robert Bruninga <bruninga@xxxx.xxx> wrote:
> What is the best mast-mount PA / LNA on the market these days.
>
> Our old TE Systems amps are now over 15 years old and have only mildly been
> protected from the weather.
>
>
>
> Since I am not hearing as well as some other stations, maybe it is time to
> replace/upgrade?
>
>
>
> The TE systems had a low noise preamp for receive and 100W amp for TX.
>
>
>
> We need the amp because we have 150? of coax to the roof.
>
>
>
> Do they still make ?em?
>
>
>
> So whats out there?
>
> Bob, Wb4APR
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Message: 10
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2015 09:56:34 -0400
From: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx>
To: Robert Bruninga <bruninga@xxxx.xxx>
Cc: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Best Mast mount PA/LNA?
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I'm not sure that there's a PA on the market that actually has a high
quality LNA built into it. From what I've seen, the amps with built in
LNAs seem to have mediocre specs. Your best bet is probably a separate
PA at a convenient location along the coax run and a mast mounted
preamp (the SSB Electronics preamps can handle 100w RF-switched and
the ARR preamps can handle up to 25w or 160w RF-switched (depending on
the model)).
73,
Paul, N8HM
On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 9:11 AM, Robert Bruninga <bruninga@xxxx.xxx> wrote:
> What is the best mast-mount PA / LNA on the market these days.
>
> Our old TE Systems amps are now over 15 years old and have only mildly been
> protected from the weather.
>
>
>
> Since I am not hearing as well as some other stations, maybe it is time to
> replace/upgrade?
>
>
>
> The TE systems had a low noise preamp for receive and 100W amp for TX.
>
>
>
> We need the amp because we have 150? of coax to the roof.
>
>
>
> Do they still make ?em?
>
>
>
> So whats out there?
>
> Bob, Wb4APR
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Message: 11
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2015 10:03:57 -0400
From: Dave Webb KB1PVH <kb1pvh@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Bob Bruninga <bruninga@xxxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT -BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Best Mast mount PA/LNA?
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Bob,
I've had good luck with ARR preamps.
http://www.advancedreceiver.com/page10.html
Dave-KB1PVH
Sent from my Samsung S4
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Message: 12
Date: Thu, 04 Jun 2015 12:01:38 -0400
From: "David L Warnberg" <dwarnberg@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: "'Dave Webb KB1PVH'" <kb1pvh@xxxxx.xxx>, "'Bob Bruninga'"
<bruninga@xxxx.xxx>
Cc: 'AMSAT -BB' <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Best Mast mount PA/LNA?
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I can second that, I have them on my egg beaters and they work very well..
David KK4QOE
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KB1PVH
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2015 10:04 AM
To: Bob Bruninga
Cc: AMSAT -BB
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Best Mast mount PA/LNA?
Bob,
I've had good luck with ARR preamps.
http://www.advancedreceiver.com/page10.html
Dave-KB1PVH
Sent from my Samsung S4
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Message: 13
Date: Thu, 04 Jun 2015 11:54:54 -0700
From: KO6TZ Bob <my.callsign@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT Orbit-228
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Received 5 packets on the 18:36u pass Orbit-228
Could not digi any packets.
KO6TZ Bob
1:Fm PSAT To APRSON Via ARISS <UI pid=F0 Len=34 >[11:37:40]
T#321,851,365,129,128,414,00000000
1:Fm PSAT To APRSON Via ARISS <UI pid=F0 Len=34 >[11:38:40]
T#322,845,362,129,128,414,00000000
1:Fm PSAT To APRSON Via ARISS <UI pid=F0 Len=52 >[11:39:38]
s#014594,0z200,FAdFAdFAdFAdFAdFAdFAdFAdF0dF0eF0eF0e
1:Fm PSAT To APRSON Via ARISS <UI pid=F0 Len=34 >[11:39:41]
T#323,852,086,130,128,414,00000000
1:Fm PSAT To APRSON Via ARISS <UI pid=F0 Len=34 >[11:40:42]
T#324,832,364,129,127,414,00000000
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Message: 14
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2015 15:23:31 -0400
From: Steve Kristoff <skristof@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] PSAT Orbit-228
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On my last try I saw a digi from one person, but got no telemetry.
Just checking here, I'm using UISS as software. I've got "CQ" in the "To:"
box and "PSAT" in the "Via:" box. That should work, yes?
If not, what are other folks using?
Steve AI9IN
On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 2:54 PM, KO6TZ Bob <my.callsign@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> Received 5 packets on the 18:36u pass Orbit-228
> Could not digi any packets.
>
>
> KO6TZ Bob
>
>
> 1:Fm PSAT To APRSON Via ARISS <UI pid=F0 Len=34 >[11:37:40]
> T#321,851,365,129,128,414,00000000
>
> 1:Fm PSAT To APRSON Via ARISS <UI pid=F0 Len=34 >[11:38:40]
> T#322,845,362,129,128,414,00000000
>
> 1:Fm PSAT To APRSON Via ARISS <UI pid=F0 Len=52 >[11:39:38]
> s#014594,0z200,FAdFAdFAdFAdFAdFAdFAdFAdF0dF0eF0eF0e
>
> 1:Fm PSAT To APRSON Via ARISS <UI pid=F0 Len=34 >[11:39:41]
> T#323,852,086,130,128,414,00000000
>
> 1:Fm PSAT To APRSON Via ARISS <UI pid=F0 Len=34 >[11:40:42]
> T#324,832,364,129,127,414,00000000
>
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Message: 15
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2015 17:09:16 -0300
From: "Pablo J.M. - LW8EXS" <lw8exs@xxxxx.xxx.xx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] report PSAT-1
Message-ID: <6C7CF95BCE634E609C09861A7EAE7D6E@xxx>
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Jun 4, 2015
19:03 UTC
RX: PY2SDR via Digi PSAT-1
73s de LW8EXS
Mercedes ( Buenos Aires ) Argentina
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Message: 16
Date: Thu, 04 Jun 2015 15:39:43 -0700
From: KO6TZ Bob <my.callsign@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] PSAT Orbit-228
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Steve,
I am using to: "APRS" but "CQ" should be just as good.
For the via: PSAT,ARISS,SGATE .
ARISS is for the double hop if the ISS is in range, and SGATE to put a
digi'd packets on the internet sites.
KO6TZ Bob
>On my last try I saw a digi from one person, but got no telemetry.
Just checking here, I'm using UISS as software. I've >got "CQ" in the
"To:" box and "PSAT" in the "Via:" box. That should work, yes? If not,
what are other folks using?
>Steve AI9IN
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Message: 17
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2015 18:44:52 -0400
From: Robert Bruninga <bruninga@xxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] PSAT paths
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Actually, the best path should be VIA ARISS. There is no need for SGATE,
since all APRS IGates automatically send everything they hear to the
internet. And if you set VIA PSAT as the path, then you just have to
change it again for ISS.
So just use via ARISS and both PSAT and/or ISS will digipeat it.
PSAT and all other APRS satellite also support the generic space alias of
APRSAT, but since the ISS doesn't support that path, then the most generic
path is VIA ARISS which will work with all of them.
Hope that helps.
Bob, WB4aPR
-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On Behalf Of KO6TZ Bob
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2015 6:40 PM
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] PSAT Orbit-228
Steve,
I am using to: "APRS" but "CQ" should be just as good.
For the via: PSAT,ARISS,SGATE .
ARISS is for the double hop if the ISS is in range, and SGATE to put a
digi'd packets on the internet sites.
KO6TZ Bob
>On my last try I saw a digi from one person, but got no telemetry.
Just checking here, I'm using UISS as software. I've >got "CQ" in the
"To:" box and "PSAT" in the "Via:" box. That should work, yes? If not,
what are other folks using?
>Steve AI9IN
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