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Today's Topics:
1. Re: AMSAT Open Source Policy (Bruce Perens)
2. best android sat program? (Ted Krempa)
3. Wayback Machine (Michael Tondee)
4. Re: best android sat program? (David Bartholomew)
5. Re: Who I?m NOT Voting For (Short) (kb2mjeff@???.????
6. Re: Who I?m NOT Voting For (Short) (Fernando Ramirez)
7. Re: Who I?m NOT Voting For (Short) (Mike Diehl)
8. Re: Who I?m NOT Voting For (Short) (Fernando Ramirez)
9. Re: Who I?m NOT Voting For (Short) (Bruce Perens)
10. Re: Who I?m NOT Voting For (Short) (Fernando Ramirez)
11. AMSAT Open Source Policy (Joe Leikhim)
12. Re: best android sat program? (Don KB2YSI)
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2020 16:11:10 -0700
From: Bruce Perens <bruce@??????.???>
To: Stephen DeVience <sjdevience@?????.???>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AMSAT Open Source Policy
Message-ID:
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On Wed, Jul 15, 2020, 1:51 PM Stephen DeVience via AMSAT-BB <amsat-.
> I can see negatives as well
> 1) Manufacturers of space-rated hardware may want certain aspects kept
> private, and it might not be possible to easily find or make an open-source
> replacement. How extensive is the ITAR carve-out? If you use just one
> proprietary component, does that take you out of the carve-out?
>
It depends. If it is a black box and you interface to it as an open
protocol, you don't have proprietary data - which is the ITAR trigger. If
you have to enter into NDAs, etc., you will need to establish an ITAR
project within the larger ITAR-free organization. Frankly, I don't see that
it will often be worthwhile to do this, simply because the administrative
overhead is so much higher. However if it is very technically desirable,
establishing a compartmentalised project is eminently possible.
We did this for Phase 4. You remember that Bob McGwier and Michelle were
major technical leads on Phase 4, and the original concepts of the project
included things that I suggested to Rich Hambly in 2007. I remained a
contributor to the project. The amateur part of satellite was an ITAR
compartmentalized project, the ground station was Open Source. My
understanding is that FEMA got screwed over by a vendor, and then our
friend the FEMA director left during and administration change or
something, and we never got the satellite.
Development of Phase 4 continues at ORI, with both sides Open Source. ORI
is an AMSAT member organization. This is our band-aid for AMSAT being
uncomfortable with Open Source and not yet having an appropriate policy.
2) It may force AMSAT to abandon long-standing relationships (whatever's in
> those NDAs), which could greatly affect ongoing projects.
>
Keep the old stuff as ITAR compartmentalized until it's over, if that
matters. The fact is we have not been launching all that much and it is
hard to see from here where are those critical partnerships would be.
This is not entirely an either-or situation. Nobody is asking AMSAT to jump
off a cliff.
Thanks
Bruce
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2020 16:11:54 -0700
From: "Ted Krempa" <k7trkradio@???????.???>
To: "AMSAT BB" <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] best android sat program?
Message-ID: <000001d65afd$5827d700$08778500$@???????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
.just inherited wife's old android tablet..(Asus ZenPad)
What is the recommended sat tracking program for an android tablet?
73, Ted
K7TRK
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2020 19:45:00 -0400
From: Michael Tondee <mat_62@???????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] Wayback Machine
Message-ID: <671fc3bd-588f-ff56-78d4-f69a35254414@???????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
Subject: Re: AMSAT-BB Digest, Vol 15, Issue 257
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2020 13:07:42 -0400
From: Michael Tondee <mat_62@???????.???>
To: amsat-bb-request@?????.???
> Wow, thanks for the link! Looks like a hilarious sendup of a known
> huckster that has been using AMSAT for his own self promotion for
> years! Bravo to Patrick and Jeff, well done, they have him pegged
> perfectly.
73,
Michael W4HIJ
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2020 11:17:03 -0400
> From: Mike Diehl <diehl.mike.a@?????.???>
> To: Clint Bradford <clintbradford@???.???>
> Cc: amsat-bb@?????.???
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Who I?m NOT Voting For (Short)
> Message-ID: <16976F65-3803-4B8C-9A6E-5FF6EC1DBE92@?????.???>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> Clint,
>
> No need to send screenshots, everyone can just use the Wayback Machine
> here http://web.archive.org/web/20181227011914/http://work-sats.com/
>
> 73,
> Mike Diehl
> W8LID/VE6LID
>
>> On Jul 15, 2020, at 10:10, Clint Bradford via AMSAT-BB
>> <amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>>
>> ?Patrick and Jeff created a Web site In 2018 using my Web site?s name
>> - but added the plural of my work-sat.com - they used ?Sats.?
>>
>> The site was solely created to demean myself and Gordon West. The
>> posts were obscene, vile, insulting, and vicious in their attacks.
>> Most of their posts are too objectionable to post on a public forum
>> like this: posts like two rats fornicating and writing that my
>> satellite inquiry phone number of 800-999-SATS could also use the
>> alpha characters, 800-999-RATS.
>>
>> If anyone is interested in reading screenshots of their work, I will
>> privately email them to you.
>>
>> Stoddard and Johns will not be receiving my vote.
>>
>> Clint Bradford K6LCS
>> 909-999-SATS
>>
>> PS They let the GoDaddy domain name expire after a year. I registered
>> it immediately - and it is now redirected to my site.
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>> Opinions expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
>> of AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>> program!
>> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
>
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2020 16:48:39 -0700
From: David Bartholomew <dgbartholomew@?????.???>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] best android sat program?
Message-ID:
<CAMfCzcyg8e_6eHRFU232T6ZBzqiqEvCcLuqUr3c1_USMWZc_jg@????.?????.???>
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I use two:
AmsatDroid Free
ISS Detector Pro
The AmsatDroidFree is free, but the satellites are listed in order by age
and it's a little cumbersome to find the one you want. You can look at only
one sat at a time and the prediction only goes out 24 hours ahead. But,
it's free.
ISS Detector Pro. The base version only tracks the ISS, so you need to pay
a little bit for the add-ons, which include all the ham sats. You can
customize a list of your favorite sats and see which ones are coming, in
date/time order. Very nice app.
Dave AD7DB
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2020 20:17:08 -0400
From: <kb2mjeff@???.???>
To: <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Who I?m NOT Voting For (Short)
Message-ID: <059001d65b06$71fdfb10$55f9f130$@???.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
I must say, there is some humor in all of this ?
73 Jeff kb2m
-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb-bounces@?????.???> On Behalf Of Mike Diehl via
AMSAT-BB
Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2020 11:17
To: Clint Bradford <clintbradford@???.???>
Cc: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Who I?m NOT Voting For (Short)
Clint,
No need to send screenshots, everyone can just use the Wayback Machine here
<http://web.archive.org/web/20181227011914/http:/work-sats.com/>
http://web.archive.org/web/20181227011914/http://work-sats.com/
73,
Mike Diehl
W8LID/VE6LID
> On Jul 15, 2020, at 10:10, Clint Bradford via AMSAT-BB <
<mailto:amsat-bb@?????.???> amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>
> ?Patrick and Jeff created a Web site In 2018 using my Web site?s name -
but added the plural of my work-sat.com - they used ?Sats.?
>
> The site was solely created to demean myself and Gordon West. The posts
were obscene, vile, insulting, and vicious in their attacks. Most of their
posts are too objectionable to post on a public forum like this: posts like
two rats fornicating and writing that my satellite inquiry phone number of
800-999-SATS could also use the alpha characters, 800-999-RATS.
>
> If anyone is interested in reading screenshots of their work, I will
privately email them to you.
>
> Stoddard and Johns will not be receiving my vote.
>
> Clint Bradford K6LCS
> 909-999-SATS
>
> PS They let the GoDaddy domain name expire after a year. I registered it
immediately - and it is now redirected to my site.
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via <mailto:AMSAT-BB@?????.???> AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes
this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the
official views of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: <https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb>
https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
_______________________________________________
Sent via <mailto:AMSAT-BB@?????.???> AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes
this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without
requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and
do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
Subscription settings: <https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb>
https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2020 17:31:33 -0700
From: Fernando Ramirez <framirezferrer@?????.???>
To: Greg <almetco@???????.???>
Cc: Clint Bradford <clintbradford@???.???>, AMSAT -BB
<amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Who I?m NOT Voting For (Short)
Message-ID:
<CAGHXx8iJ+ROyfb_gzUQT=Ju8hBBz7VxmmBJS1r7rz_-uSi=o3Q@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
Perhaps Clint or Mike (since he made the same allegation in the past
against Patrick) can provide irrefutable proof that both were behind that
page.
73
KF7R
On Wed, Jul 15, 2020 at 3:27 PM Greg via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
wrote:
> LID/LCS
>
> Wow, that is so chidish it borders on issues with emotional IQ ?glad you
> brought that to my attention because it will influence my vote..
>
> N3MVF
>
>
>
> On Jul 15, 2020, at 11:17 AM, Mike Diehl via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
> wrote:
>
> Clint,
>
> No need to send screenshots, everyone can just use the Wayback Machine
> here http://web.archive.org/web/20181227011914/http://work-sats.com/
>
> 73,
> Mike Diehl
> W8LID/VE6LID
>
> > On Jul 15, 2020, at 10:10, Clint Bradford via AMSAT-BB <
> amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
> >
> > ?Patrick and Jeff created a Web site In 2018 using my Web site?s name -
> but added the plural of my work-sat.com - they used ?Sats.?
> >
> > The site was solely created to demean myself and Gordon West. The posts
> were obscene, vile, insulting, and vicious in their attacks. Most of their
> posts are too objectionable to post on a public forum like this: posts like
> two rats fornicating and writing that my satellite inquiry phone number of
> 800-999-SATS could also use the alpha characters, 800-999-RATS.
> >
> > If anyone is interested in reading screenshots of their work, I will
> privately email them to you.
> >
> > Stoddard and Johns will not be receiving my vote.
> >
> > Clint Bradford K6LCS
> > 909-999-SATS
> >
> > PS They let the GoDaddy domain name expire after a year. I registered it
> immediately - and it is now redirected to my site.
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions expressed
> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
> > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2020 20:52:14 -0400
From: Mike Diehl <diehl.mike.a@?????.???>
To: Fernando Ramirez <framirezferrer@?????.???>
Cc: Clint Bradford <clintbradford@???.???>, AMSAT -BB
<amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Who I?m NOT Voting For (Short)
Message-ID: <941EA805-4998-474B-BAD0-4C10EE19A71D@?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Anyone with the capacity to assemble a 3 element Yagi properly should be
able to easily connect the dots between posts on other platforms and those
on the website in question.
73,
Mike Diehl
W8LID/VE6LID
> On Jul 15, 2020, at 20:31, Fernando Ramirez <framirezferrer@?????.???>
wrote:
>
> ?
> Perhaps Clint or Mike (since he made the same allegation in the past
against Patrick) can provide irrefutable proof that both were behind that
page.
>
> 73
> KF7R
>
>> On Wed, Jul 15, 2020 at 3:27 PM Greg via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
wrote:
>> LID/LCS
>>
>> Wow, that is so chidish it borders on issues with emotional IQ ?glad you
brought that to my attention because it will influence my vote..
>>
>> N3MVF
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jul 15, 2020, at 11:17 AM, Mike Diehl via AMSAT-BB
<amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>>
>> Clint,
>>
>> No need to send screenshots, everyone can just use the Wayback Machine
here http://web.archive.org/web/20181227011914/http://work-sats.com/
>>
>> 73,
>> Mike Diehl
>> W8LID/VE6LID
>>
>> > On Jul 15, 2020, at 10:10, Clint Bradford via AMSAT-BB
<amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>> >
>> > ?Patrick and Jeff created a Web site In 2018 using my Web site?s name -
but added the plural of my work-sat.com - they used ?Sats.?
>> >
>> > The site was solely created to demean myself and Gordon West. The posts
were obscene, vile, insulting, and vicious in their attacks. Most of their
posts are too objectionable to post on a public forum like this: posts like
two rats fornicating and writing that my satellite inquiry phone number of
800-999-SATS could also use the alpha characters, 800-999-RATS.
>> >
>> > If anyone is interested in reading screenshots of their work, I will
privately email them to you.
>> >
>> > Stoddard and Johns will not be receiving my vote.
>> >
>> > Clint Bradford K6LCS
>> > 909-999-SATS
>> >
>> > PS They let the GoDaddy domain name expire after a year. I registered
it immediately - and it is now redirected to my site.
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
Opinions expressed
>> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
of AMSAT-NA.
>> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
program!
>> > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
Opinions expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
Opinions expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2020 18:05:14 -0700
From: Fernando Ramirez <framirezferrer@?????.???>
To: Clint Bradford <clintbradford@??.???>, AMSAT -BB
<amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Who I?m NOT Voting For (Short)
Message-ID:
<CAGHXx8hLr0rurh8cDjntqamN2w22U-Qvwt+=KMvFTbBP3pSSbQ@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
Are you paying attention to the whole thread? Or maybe my English (my
second language) is that bad.
KF7R
On Wed, Jul 15, 2020, 5:55 PM Clint Bradford <clintbradford@??.???> wrote:
> I have never written nor spoken to anyone about this Web site. You
> cannot cite anything from me - andI just don?t know who ?Mike? is.
>
> Clint Bradford K6LCS
>
>
>
>
> >> Perhaps Clint or Mike (since he made the same allegation in the past
> against Patrick) can provide irrefutable proof that both were behind that
> page.
>
> 73
> KF7R
>
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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2020 18:08:49 -0700
From: Bruce Perens <bruce@??????.???>
To: Rick Wyrwas <rwyrwas48@?????.???>, AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Who I?m NOT Voting For (Short)
Message-ID:
<CAK2MWOvqdwHEPj0Rk3SgTG7-2SqP6Oz-zjnFaziAvPK1GzXMTA@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
https://www.amsat.org/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/AMSAT_AUP_061819.pd
f
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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2020 18:10:18 -0700
From: Fernando Ramirez <framirezferrer@?????.???>
To: AMSAT -BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Who I?m NOT Voting For (Short)
Message-ID:
<CAGHXx8gAAy5jm9pYbLacGzY69VVxRP7_6_uztZLk0sKDYNWkQQ@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> Oh wow, that was pretty bad. Imagine the audacity of switching two
> elements.
>
> Back to the subject, where's the evidence?
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 15, 2020, 5:52 PM Mike Diehl <diehl.mike.a@?????.???> wrote:
>
>> Anyone with the capacity to assemble a 3 element Yagi properly should be
>> able to easily connect the dots between posts on other platforms and those
>> on the website in question.
>>
>> 73,
>> Mike Diehl
>> W8LID/VE6LID
>>
>> On Jul 15, 2020, at 20:31, Fernando Ramirez <framirezferrer@?????.???>
>> wrote:
>>
>> ?
>> Perhaps Clint or Mike (since he made the same allegation in the past
>> against Patrick) can provide irrefutable proof that both were behind that
>> page.
>>
>> 73
>> KF7R
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 15, 2020 at 3:27 PM Greg via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> LID/LCS
>>>
>>> Wow, that is so chidish it borders on issues with emotional IQ ?glad you
>>> brought that to my attention because it will influence my vote..
>>>
>>> N3MVF
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jul 15, 2020, at 11:17 AM, Mike Diehl via AMSAT-BB <
>>> amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>>>
>>> Clint,
>>>
>>> No need to send screenshots, everyone can just use the Wayback Machine
>>> here http://web.archive.org/web/20181227011914/http://work-sats.com/
>>>
>>> 73,
>>> Mike Diehl
>>> W8LID/VE6LID
>>>
>>> > On Jul 15, 2020, at 10:10, Clint Bradford via AMSAT-BB <
>>> amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > ?Patrick and Jeff created a Web site In 2018 using my Web site?s name
>>> - but added the plural of my work-sat.com - they used ?Sats.?
>>> >
>>> > The site was solely created to demean myself and Gordon West. The
>>> posts were obscene, vile, insulting, and vicious in their attacks. Most of
>>> their posts are too objectionable to post on a public forum like this:
>>> posts like two rats fornicating and writing that my satellite inquiry
phone
>>> number of 800-999-SATS could also use the alpha characters, 800-999-RATS.
>>> >
>>> > If anyone is interested in reading screenshots of their work, I will
>>> privately email them to you.
>>> >
>>> > Stoddard and Johns will not be receiving my vote.
>>> >
>>> > Clint Bradford K6LCS
>>> > 909-999-SATS
>>> >
>>> > PS They let the GoDaddy domain name expire after a year. I registered
>>> it immediately - and it is now redirected to my site.
>>> > _______________________________________________
>>> > Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>>> Opinions expressed
>>> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
>>> of AMSAT-NA.
>>> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>>> program!
>>> > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>>> Opinions expressed
>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>>> AMSAT-NA.
>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>>> program!
>>> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>>> Opinions expressed
>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>>> AMSAT-NA.
>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>>> program!
>>> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>>
>>
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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2020 21:19:45 -0400
From: Joe Leikhim <rhyolite@???????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT Open Source Policy
Message-ID: <2ba40607-6073-e7f2-12a8-64e10f56cbc7@???????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
/Joseph; you wax on about intellectual property and symbiotic
relationships etc, and then ask /
//"How does AMSAT benefit b//y pursuing an open source policy?" May I
ask, how in the past 10 years has AMSAT benefited by running the
proprietary system they are running now? You would think the AMSAT bank
accounts would be overflowing and invitations for HEO launches would be
so many we would be turning them down? Please answer this before
belittling the proposition. / On Wed, Jul 15, 2020 at 7:21 AM Joseph
Armbruster <josepharmbruster at gmail.com
<https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb>> wrote: />>//>>/You did
not really answer the first question: "How does AMSAT benefit />>/by
pursuing an open source policy?" />
--
Joe Leikhim
Leikhim and Associates
Communications Consultants
Oviedo, Florida
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Message: 12
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2020 21:36:03 -0400
From: Don KB2YSI <kb2ysi@?????.???>
To: David Bartholomew <dgbartholomew@?????.???>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] best android sat program?
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I switched to ISS Detector a few years ago and rarely use anything else.
Beware that the pass calculation is done in the cloud, so if you are going
off grid you may want to get another app.
On Wed, Jul 15, 2020, 21:33 David Bartholomew via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
> I use two:
>
> AmsatDroid Free
> ISS Detector Pro
>
> The AmsatDroidFree is free, but the satellites are listed in order by age
> and it's a little cumbersome to find the one you want. You can look at only
> one sat at a time and the prediction only goes out 24 hours ahead. But,
> it's free.
>
> ISS Detector Pro. The base version only tracks the ISS, so you need to pay
> a little bit for the add-ons, which include all the ham sats. You can
> customize a list of your favorite sats and see which ones are coming, in
> date/time order. Very nice app.
>
> Dave AD7DB
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