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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Members Please Read (Bruce Perens)
2. Re: Members Please Read (Bruce Perens)
3. Wise Legal Expenses (Robert MacHale)
4. GeoSat OSCAR-2024 Positive comments, no, whining....(Was
need HEO..please..) (Joe Leikhim)
5. Re: GeoSat OSCAR-2024 Positive comments, no, whining....(Was
need HEO..please..) (Chad KG0MW)
6. HO-107 is back! (Alan)
7. Re: HO-107 is back! (Chris Thompson)
8. Re: Members Please Read (Fernando Ramirez)
9. Re: Wise Legal Expenses (Bruce Perens)
10. Re: Members Please Read (Bruce Perens)
11. Re: Websites Down ? amsat.org and parens.com (Kenneth P Alexander)
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2020 17:32:25 -0700
From: Bruce Perens <bruce@??????.???>
To: Robert Bankston <ke4al@?????.???>, Robert Bankston
<ke4al@?????.???>
Cc: AMSAT -BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Members Please Read
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Robert, speaking of trying to evoke anger, you seemed to be out to do that
without answering the question.
Where did the money come from? If I understand correctly, it would have
been AMSAT's General Fund. Right?
Thanks
Bruce
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2020 17:51:21 -0700
From: Bruce Perens <bruce@??????.???>
To: Rich Gopstein <rich@????????????.???>, AMSAT BB
<amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Members Please Read
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Rich,
I think the problem was that they weren't really protecting AMSAT. They
were protecting the incumbent AMSAT leadership team. They were able to deal
with the issue of discrimination without counsel. You don't need to call
your lawyer to understand how to deal with the only woman engineer in a
leadership role in the whole organization. You need to recognize the
realities of the present, that we are not all white Christian men and that
you need to have some more consideration for people who aren't like you.
If they had devoted as much time to hearing and attempting to understand
the complaints of the opposition as they did to contracting lawyers, this
would not have happened. No lawyers. No big argument now.
Thanks
Bruce
On Fri, Jul 17, 2020 at 5:37 PM Rich Gopstein via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
> I'm not sure what the issue is. If the organization was concerned about a
> legal issue, they should reach out to their lawyers - it's their
> responsibility to protect AMSAT. Lawyers cost money. Trying to track
> which individual dollars were used doesn't sound like a productive effort.
>
> Rich, KD2CQ
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 17, 2020 at 8:15 PM GEO Badger via AMSAT-BB <
> amsat-bb@?????.???>
> wrote:
>
> > You know, maybe the treasurer will come up on the air and put an end to
> > all this conjecture.
> >
> > This is getting tiring.
> >
> > ---
> > Ciao baby, catch you on the flip side
> > 73 de W3AB/GEO
> >
> > http://www.w3ab.org
> >
> > You can say "over", you can say "out", you just can't say "over and out".
> >
> > On Friday, July 17, 2020, 04:13:55 PM PDT, Fernando Ramirez via
> > AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
> >
> > So, there's a separate funding source for legal services? The point is
> > that
> > regardless of where it came from, AMSAT paid for it. And it was a
> wasteful
> > use of the organization's resources.
> >
> > KF7R
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Jul 17, 2020, 3:06 PM Chad KG0MW via AMSAT-BB <
> amsat-bb@?????.???>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I like watermelons. The board even has stated that the legal funds DID
> > NOT
> > > come from memberships dues.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ?On 7/17/20, 3:52 PM, "AMSAT-BB on behalf of Clint Bradford via
> > AMSAT-BB" <
> > > amsat-bb-bounces@?????.??? on behalf of AMSAT-BB@?????.???> wrote:
> > >
> > > Why are you comparing the legal expenditures with membership fees?
> > >
> > > Di you discover that membership fees were used in any manner for
> those
> > > expenses?
> > >
> > > If not, then why don?t we compare that amount with, say, Apples or
> > > Watermelons?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > On Jul 17, 2020, at 12:46 PM, amsat-bb-request@?????.??? wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Now we learn that the expenditure is over 16k. That is 363
> > > memberships, if this retired engineer's math is correct.
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum
> available
> > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> > > Opinions expressed
> > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official
> views
> > > of AMSAT-NA.
> > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> > > program!
> > > Subscription settings:
> > https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> > Opinions
> > > expressed
> > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
> of
> > > AMSAT-NA.
> > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> > program!
> > > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> > >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions
> > expressed
> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> > AMSAT-NA.
> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
> > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions
> > expressed
> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> > AMSAT-NA.
> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
> > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> >
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
--
Bruce Perens - CEO at stealth startup. I'll tell you what it is eventually
:-)
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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2020 01:15:31 +0000 (UTC)
From: Robert MacHale <robert.machale@?????.???>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Wise Legal Expenses
Message-ID: <594720251.3486452.1595034931934@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
To all who claim the legal expenses were a waste of money, consider this:
>>>In January 2020, a demand letter arrived at AMSAT from an attorney
representing Directors Thompson and Stoddard.
Submitting a demand letter from an attorney is a really big deal. That legal
line was first crossed by the new board members. Apparently, Joe Spier
resigned at this point in order to avoid unfair legal entanglements - and,
as far as I can tell from the few interactions I have had with Joe - he is a
kind person.
Plenty of evidence, plenty of facts - obviously point to AmSat not keeping
up with the times. But that does not justify legal betrayal of existing
board members by new members in an effort to usurp full control of the
board. A more perfect response would have been to do nothing until the
election cycle and hope to replace the board members who may have been
dragging their feet.
My point is this - nobody should be making the argument the legal expenses
were not required. Hearing this from the members who delivered the demand
letter feels insulting on many levels and should stop. Own it - the members
who brought the demand, and their Backer(s), are ultimately responsible for
the costs incurred. Actions have consequences - and side-effects.
Ends do not justify means. There is a right way and a wrong way to move
forward. Trust is more valuable than performance.
The legal expenditures were both Wise and Required. The demand letter sent
by the new board members was neither. Shifting blame and not owning the
side-effects of our actions is less than optimal.
This observation is not a vote in favor or against any member or candidate.
For reference: https://www.amsat.org/pipermail/amsat-bb/2020-July/078239.html
Robert MacHale
. KE6BLR Ham Radio License
.?http://www.aprsat.com/predict
.?http://www.spaceCommunicator.club?
. Supporting Boy Scout Merit Badges in Radio, Robotics, and Space Exploration
Silly Joke:?What did the little mountain say to the bigger mountain? Hi Cliff!
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2020 17:49:26 -0400
From: Joe Leikhim <rhyolite@???????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] GeoSat OSCAR-2024 Positive comments, no,
whining....(Was need HEO..please..)
Message-ID: <681b3d78-f77a-754b-5276-f88166b6df73@???????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
Blast from past 12 years ago....the entire thread of course is nearly a
rehash of today's. So just the POSITIVE Bits. What happened?
[eagle] Re: what is going on?, some technical content at last.
*Bill Tynan*
btynan at beecreek.net
<mailto:eagle%40amsat.org?Subject=%5Beagle%5D%20Re%3A%20what%20is%20going%20on
%3F%2C%20some%20technical%20content%20at%20last.&In-Reply-To=>
/Fri Jul 11 07:52:51 PDT 2008/
"Drew, Bob and All:
I have been thinking along the same lines for some time, but being no more
than a "Senior Advisor" (geezer) I have not chosen to voice my views widely.
Most hams want linear transponder, high altitude satellites. Very few are
yet into digital anything.
Yes, AMSAT should be in the forefront of technology, but to do so, it must
be here. To be here, it must have the support (money) of the ham community.
We can still make a very good case for emergency commutations with a
spacecraft which is in there 24/7 (Rideshare) even if it is only an analog
transponder. With moderate bandwidth, that analog transponder can be used
for at least low rate digital communication by ground stations. So, still
pictures and medical data can be exchanged through it.
So, let's get to it.
That means fundraising. I have seen very little effort in that direction.
Have fat cats been solicited? What about the guy (can't remember his name)
who spent $20,000,000 to visit the ISS for a week. It would seem that he is
a prime candidate. Has he been contacted?
Has FEMA been solicited re the potential Rideshare offers?
It's up to the AMSAT leadership to make such solicitations.
We raised $2,000,000 here in North America for P3D. We should be able to do
it again, despite the AO-40 disaster.
These are my thoughts.
73,
Bill Tynan, W3XO, LM-10
AMSAT President 1991 - 1998"
https://www.amsat.org/pipermail/eagle/2008/001235.html
--
Joe Leikhim
Leikhim and Associates
Communications Consultants
Oviedo, Florida
JLeikhim@???????.???
407-982-0446
WWW.LEIKHIM.COM
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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2020 01:39:28 +0000
From: Chad KG0MW <chad.kg0mw@?????.???>
To: Joe Leikhim <rhyolite@???????.???>, "amsat-bb@?????.????
<amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] GeoSat OSCAR-2024 Positive comments, no,
whining....(Was need HEO..please..)
Message-ID:
<CH2PR12MB3893F03DBBD5A254C7810C54A97D0@?????????????.????????.????.???????.??
?>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Actually tantrums have popped up ever since the start of the AMSAT-BB.
Chad Phillips
Chad Phillips Photography
& School Photography by Mark
605.336.0777
________________________________
From: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb-bounces@?????.???> on behalf of Joe Leikhim via
AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 4:49:26 PM
To: amsat-bb@?????.??? <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] GeoSat OSCAR-2024 Positive comments, no, whining....(Was
need HEO..please..)
Blast from past 12 years ago....the entire thread of course is nearly a
rehash of today's. So just the POSITIVE Bits. What happened?
[eagle] Re: what is going on?, some technical content at last.
*Bill Tynan*
btynan at beecreek.net
<mailto:eagle%40amsat.org?Subject=%5Beagle%5D%20Re%3A%20what%20is%20going%20on
%3F%2C%20some%20technical%20content%20at%20last.&In-Reply-To=>
/Fri Jul 11 07:52:51 PDT 2008/
"Drew, Bob and All:
I have been thinking along the same lines for some time, but being no more
than a "Senior Advisor" (geezer) I have not chosen to voice my views widely.
Most hams want linear transponder, high altitude satellites. Very few are
yet into digital anything.
Yes, AMSAT should be in the forefront of technology, but to do so, it must
be here. To be here, it must have the support (money) of the ham community.
We can still make a very good case for emergency commutations with a
spacecraft which is in there 24/7 (Rideshare) even if it is only an analog
transponder. With moderate bandwidth, that analog transponder can be used
for at least low rate digital communication by ground stations. So, still
pictures and medical data can be exchanged through it.
So, let's get to it.
That means fundraising. I have seen very little effort in that direction.
Have fat cats been solicited? What about the guy (can't remember his name)
who spent $20,000,000 to visit the ISS for a week. It would seem that he is
a prime candidate. Has he been contacted?
Has FEMA been solicited re the potential Rideshare offers?
It's up to the AMSAT leadership to make such solicitations.
We raised $2,000,000 here in North America for P3D. We should be able to do
it again, despite the AO-40 disaster.
These are my thoughts.
73,
Bill Tynan, W3XO, LM-10
AMSAT President 1991 - 1998"
https://www.amsat.org/pipermail/eagle/2008/001235.html
--
Joe Leikhim
Leikhim and Associates
Communications Consultants
Oviedo, Florida
JLeikhim@???????.???
407-982-0446
WWW.LEIKHIM.COM
_______________________________________________
Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
------------------------------
Message: 6
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2020 20:42:10 -0500
From: "Alan" <wa4sca@?????.???>
To: <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] HO-107 is back!
Message-ID: <000001d65ca4$a7f08cc0$f7d1a640$@?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
HO-107 is back sending telemetry. The transponder is off, but if you have
been copying telemetry and removed it from your schedule, it would be
helpful if you put it back.
73,
Alan
WA4SCA
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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2020 21:51:37 -0400
From: Chris Thompson <g0kla@????.???>
To: Alan Biddle <APBIDDLE@???????.???>, Alan <wa4sca@?????.???>
Cc: AMSAT <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] HO-107 is back!
Message-ID:
<CAJOf0+v5n1HJUhxPuED-F090dD0EnOrcabqMbbhQGSfWKLUJdw@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
Many thanks to Vlad EU1SAT / EU1XX for reporting this via Twitter. If you
want to judge the health of the spacecraft yourself then you can pull the
telemetry down from the server using FoxTelem. File > Fetch Server Data
will do it. Just make sure you are not writing the data into the same
folder as data you are capturing live. Or it will delete it (with a
warning first). There are instructions in the manual but feel free to
email me if you want help.
73
Chris
g0kla / ac2cz
On Fri, Jul 17, 2020 at 9:45 PM Alan via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
wrote:
> HO-107 is back sending telemetry. The transponder is off, but if you have
> been copying telemetry and removed it from your schedule, it would be
> helpful if you put it back.
>
> 73,
>
> Alan
> WA4SCA
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
--
Chris E. Thompson
chrisethompson@?????.???
g0kla@????.???
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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2020 18:54:28 -0700
From: Fernando Ramirez <framirezferrer@?????.???>
To: Robert Bankston <ke4al@?????.???>, AMSAT -BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Members Please Read
Message-ID:
<CAGHXx8i-b0whN615Ah_8kDX5wn9v7b7EjncNwg1P6B2uL32AQw@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
Robert, who are "THEY"?
As far as I know, people in favor of the current leadership and those
wanting to change it are AMSAT members. You're making it sound like the
opposition is storming the AMSAT office and illegally ousting the current
team. The GM is comprised of very smart people with good cognitive skills.
I don't think there's a need to evoke anything.
As for the "legitimate" expenses, in what world is legitimate to procure
legal services in order to punish a member for criticizing an officer? Or
using lawyers to prevent duly elected directors from accessing information
to which they have a legal right to access?
Like I expressed to you last year, I was upset that a member was penalized
for voicing his criticism. Now I'm livid for the use of legal counsel to
advise on proposed sanctions against that same member.
73
Fernando, KF7R
On Fri, Jul 17, 2020, 5:06 PM Robert Bankston <ke4al@?????.???> wrote:
> In response to the OP <Why are you comparing the legal expenditures with
> membership fees?>
>
>
> The simple answer is THEY are trying to evoke anger in the electorate, so
> THEY can take control of AMSAT.
>
>
> Go back and read the intitial allegations in Michelle's and Patrick's
> "election edition" director reports. See how their lines of attack change
> each time the true facts are revealed. Their storyline has transformed
> from illegal expenditures to unwise expenditures.
>
>
> Now go back and read AMSAT's explanation of legal expenses. You will see
> that there were legitimate legal questions before the Board - question that
> were not sought by the AMSAT, but, either a necessary part of their mission
> or forced upon them by their accusers. Having to expend scarce recources
> on legal counsel is unfortunate, but a necessary part of entering into
> contractual obligations and providing a safe workplace for your volunteers.
>
>
> Robert, KE4AL
>
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Message: 9
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2020 20:07:34 -0700
From: Bruce Perens <bruce@??????.???>
To: Robert MacHale <robert.machale@?????.???>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Wise Legal Expenses
Message-ID:
<CAK2MWOueG3Yf=wWH4kr3EAn46bWSr76XvY2767x4r5ox8ogJgw@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
Hi Robert,
Unfortunately, you are stating the time sequence backward.
If you read the explanation letter signed by the whole AMSAT board, the
legal expenses are in 2018-2019. The demand letter came at the *end* of the
legal process, when the majority of the funds had already been spent. When
they got the demand letter, AMSAT's attorneys relented and the board did
what was demanded in the letter, and Joe resigned (for reasons he has
chosen not to elaborate upon). Michelle and Patrick's blogs are public and
you can read it there, it is clear that there were many attempts to
communicate before the demand was made.
It also is important to note that AMSAT had lawyers directed at Michelle
and Patrick long, long before they got their own lawyer.
Thanks
Bruce
Thanks
Bruce
On Fri, Jul 17, 2020 at 6:19 PM Robert MacHale via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
> To all who claim the legal expenses were a waste of money, consider this:
>
>
> >>>In January 2020, a demand letter arrived at AMSAT from an attorney
> representing Directors Thompson and Stoddard.
>
>
> Submitting a demand letter from an attorney is a really big deal. That
> legal line was first crossed by the new board members. Apparently, Joe
> Spier resigned at this point in order to avoid unfair legal entanglements -
> and, as far as I can tell from the few interactions I have had with Joe -
> he is a kind person.
>
> Plenty of evidence, plenty of facts - obviously point to AmSat not keeping
> up with the times. But that does not justify legal betrayal of existing
> board members by new members in an effort to usurp full control of the
> board. A more perfect response would have been to do nothing until the
> election cycle and hope to replace the board members who may have been
> dragging their feet.
>
> My point is this - nobody should be making the argument the legal expenses
> were not required. Hearing this from the members who delivered the demand
> letter feels insulting on many levels and should stop. Own it - the members
> who brought the demand, and their Backer(s), are ultimately responsible for
> the costs incurred. Actions have consequences - and side-effects.
>
> Ends do not justify means. There is a right way and a wrong way to move
> forward. Trust is more valuable than performance.
>
> The legal expenditures were both Wise and Required. The demand letter sent
> by the new board members was neither. Shifting blame and not owning the
> side-effects of our actions is less than optimal.
>
> This observation is not a vote in favor or against any member or candidate.
>
> For reference:
> https://www.amsat.org/pipermail/amsat-bb/2020-July/078239.html
>
> Robert MacHale
> . KE6BLR Ham Radio License
> . http://www.aprsat.com/predict
> . http://www.spaceCommunicator.club
> . Supporting Boy Scout Merit Badges in Radio, Robotics, and Space
> Exploration
>
> Silly Joke: What did the little mountain say to the bigger mountain? Hi
> Cliff!
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
--
Bruce Perens - CEO at stealth startup. I'll tell you what it is eventually
:-)
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Message: 10
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2020 20:22:05 -0700
From: Bruce Perens <bruce@??????.???>
To: Fernando Ramirez <framirezferrer@?????.???>
Cc: Robert Bankston <ke4al@?????.???>, AMSAT -BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Members Please Read
Message-ID:
<CAK2MWOvcV6cn4gPrZQ1Cj+_1X-B8jPqGkOuDnB__RiPmH11bNw@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
On Fri, Jul 17, 2020 at 6:56 PM Fernando Ramirez via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
> You're making it sound like the opposition is storming the AMSAT office
> and illegally ousting the current team.
Forgive me if I feel the temptation to pick people up and shake them and
say "IT'S AN ELECTION." :-)
An election is not storming the darned Bastille!
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Message: 11
Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2020 10:42:37 +0700
From: Kenneth P Alexander <ve3hls@?????.???>
To: peter@??????.???? "Peter Goodhall (2M0SQL)" <peter@????????.??.??>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Websites Down ? amsat.org and parens.com
Message-ID:
<CAPOM0d=5GNd9E9vY5kchGASB9dt_-rNpc5V-G8tUjxi8tfzjXA@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
I wonder if it affected Google too? I wasn't able to connect to my
computer in VE3 via Chrome Remote Desktop for over a day. Just returned to
normal yesterday afternoon.
Ken,
So Phisai, Thailand
Blog: bueng-ken.com
On Sat, Jul 18, 2020, 06:27 Peter Goodhall (2M0SQL) via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
> Probably better to wait for facts before saying it was a attack
>
> I suspect they all used Cloudflare DNS which had an outage.
>
> Peter, 2M0SQL
>
> On Fri, 17 Jul 2020, 23:16 Robert MacHale via AMSAT-BB, <
> amsat-bb@?????.???>
> wrote:
>
> > Am I the only one having trouble accessing these websites?
> > If this is an attack against either group - I strongly disapprove of this
> > type of hacking.
> > Bruce - is everything okay?
> > Robert MacHale. KE6BLR Ham Radio License. http://www.aprsat.com/predict
> > . http://www.spaceCommunicator.club
> > . Supporting Boy Scout Merit Badges in Radio, Robotics, and Space
> > Exploration
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