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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Modernized/Efficient Voting [was: Ballots?] (Pete (Vk2pet))
2. Re: Telling the difference between 50-ohm and 75-ohm N
connectors (Glenn Little WB4UIV)
3. To repeat . . . again . . . (Brennan Price)
4. Re: FM Satellite HT Night Proposal (Michael Tondee)
5. Re: FM Satellite HT Night Proposal (walterh@????.????
6. Re: FM Satellite HT Night Proposal (Grant Hopper)
7. Re: Modernized/Efficient Voting [was: Ballots?] (Burns Fisher)
8. ANS-208 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins (Paul Stoetzer)
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2020 08:23:24 +1000
From: "Pete (Vk2pet)" <vk2pet@?????????.??.???>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Modernized/Efficient Voting [was: Ballots?]
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Hi all.
Unfortunately I think my vote will be missed. I still haven?t received my
voting paper. It takes over a month for mail from the USA to reach
Australia. Then to post it back it just as long.
There needs to be a system where overseas members can vote & with out being
hostage to the snail mail system.
73
Pete
Vk2pet
> On 26 Jul 2020, at 04:46, Ev Tupis via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>
> ?The wisdom of the crowd is coming into focus. -Ev, W2EV
>
>
> Doug Faunt N6TQS wrote:
> Print, sign, scan, email should be an acceptable solution.
> 73, Doug
>
>
> Jean Marc Momple <jean.marc.momple@?????.???> worte:
>
> Therefore, I strongly suggest that electronic vote be put in place or at
> least the ballots should be sent trough e-mail and scan sign copy of the
> duly filled document be valid for far away members.
> _______________________________________________
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> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2020 18:36:52 -0400
From: Glenn Little WB4UIV <glennmaillist@?????????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Telling the difference between 50-ohm and
75-ohm N connectors
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The center pin for 50 Ohm and 75 Ohm BNC are the same.
The difference in impedance is determine by the dielectric.
If you look at a 50 Ohm BNC connector you see dielectric around the
center pin for the female and around the inside perimeter for the male.
The 75 Ohm BNC is missing this dielectric.
It is very easy to see the difference if you know what to look for.
The Type N connector impedance is determined by the diameter of the
center pin.
The 75 Ohm connector had a smaller diameter center pin than does the 50
Ohm connector.
To insert a 50 Ohm male Type N connector into a 75 Ohm female will
destroy the female center pin.
To insert a 75 Ohm male type N connector into a 50 Ohm male may not do
any damage, but the connection will be very unreliable.
73
Glenn
WB4UIV
Retired TV Chief Engineer
On 7/25/2020 6:15 PM, GEO Badger via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> Same with the 75??? BNC/M connector.
> ---
> Ciao baby, catch you on the flip side
> 73 de W3AB/GEO
>
> http://www.w3ab.org
>
> You can say "over", you can say "out", you just can't say "over and out".
>
> On Saturday, July 25, 2020, 11:52:48 AM PDT, Zach Metzinger via
AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>
>
> I just ran across this tidbit[1]:
>
>> Q: How can I tell the difference between a 50 and 75 Ohm N connector?
>> A: You can tell the difference by the center pin. A 50 Ohm connector has
a pointed pin. A 75 Ohm has a rounded pin.
> I've always looked at the center conductor to shield (not ferrule)
> distance to make sure I had a 50-ohm version. I don't have any 75-ohm
> versions lying about the shack. Can anyone else confirm this?
>
> I recall, back in my RF engineer days, that we had a whole box of 75-ohm
> N connectors which were marked with bright red paint. Woe to the junior
> engineer who coupled the 50-ohm and 75-ohm version, which would bend the
> center spring fingers on the female connector apart permanently.
>
> One can also kill a female N connector by mating it with a male PL-259.
> I have not done this myself, but I knew someone who did this twice on
> his fancy new antenna analyzer and wondering why everything was such a
> poor match. :-)
>
> [1] https://www.showmecables.com/n-male-crimp-connector-lmr-400-belden-9913
>
> --- Zach
> N0ZGO
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Glenn Little ARRL Technical Specialist QCWA LM 28417
Amateur Callsign: WB4UIV wb4uiv@????.??? AMSAT LM 2178
QTH: Goose Creek, SC USA (EM92xx) USSVI LM NRA LM SBE ARRL TAPR
"It is not the class of license that the Amateur holds but the class
of the Amateur that holds the license"
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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2020 22:48:29 +0000 (UTC)
From: Brennan Price <brennanprice@???????.???>
To: "amsat-bb@?????.???? <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] To repeat . . . again . . .
Message-ID: <402696188.6042066.1595717309143@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Accounting for performance standards of international first class and
domestic presorted standard delivery, correctly addressed ballots will not
be considered lost in post until August 12.
Regarding the format of the election: the bylaws require a mailed ballot,
but not necessarily a mailed return. I would have liked to have provided an
electronic return option, but that would have incurred costs and
restrictions on candidate statement availability. These issues raised
concern among the board and officers across the perceived idealogical divide.?
Accordingly, this election is being conducted by post. Post not infrequently
involves waiting. That's why two months are allowed for the return time.?
Members' understanding of the finality of the timing and method of the
election is appreciated.?
73 de Brennan N4QX
Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2020 17:12:06 -0400
From: Michael Tondee <mat_62@???????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] FM Satellite HT Night Proposal
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Seeing this post from Koos talking about an HT with full duplex capabilities
makes me wonder how many of you are trying to work these birds without it. I
know there are not many full duplex HT's out there that work as well as the
ones we used to have but you really are shooting yourself in the foot from
the get go if you don't pursue some type of full duplex solution, even if
it's two HT's. FM sat night or not, it really should not be that hard to
work an FM sat with a 5 watt handheld and a directional antenna. The key is
hearing yourself and making sure you actually have the birds "attention".
Anyone who tells you that you don't need full duplex to work the sats is
doing you a disservice. Sat work of any sort is going to be tough if you go
into it with the equivalent measure of " tying one hand behind your back"
Just sayin...
73,
Michael, W4HIJ
Message: 1 Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2020 11:12:19 +0200
From: Koos van den Hout<koos@??????.???>
To:amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] FM Satellite HT Night Proposal
Message-ID:<20200725091219.3hp4sxfiwjg3ahts@??????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Quoting Walter Holmes via AMSAT-BB who wrote on Sat 2020-07-25 at 00:49:
> Any idea what the chances would be of having something like 1 night a week
or month, on ONE of the FM birds, that could be reserved for HT access only?
>
> My thinking on this would be a great way for people to test out their
portable or limited satellite stations with a great deal less collisions
against all the other much stronger stations.
>
> I have heard from plenty of people that would like to try a temporary or
portable station on the birds, but we all know that?s not even a remote
possibility unless your on super early in the morning or late at night.
As it happens I was trying a new radio for a portable setup last evening
(I bought a KG-UV1K to get full-duplex capabilities).
On a not-to-high pass yesterday evening (max 21 degrees elevation with lots
of buildings around) I did hear AO-92 and could understand some of the
callsigns, but could not get in at all. Mister Ollaaaa was also active on
some occassions. I will try again on a higher pass.
My plan is to bring it along on an upcoming holiday, which will be in a
somewhat rare grid. But since it's a holiday and I'm not sure when a pass
will be at a usable time, I'm not going to announce it as an activation. I
may just make a few contacts.
So I'm the 'target audience' for your idea, and I really think it's a good
idea.
Koos PE4KH
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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2020 18:00:12 -0500
From: <walterh@????.???>
To: "'AMSAT BB'" <AMSAT-BB@?????.???>
Cc: kk5do@????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] FM Satellite HT Night Proposal
Message-ID: <01ed01d662d7$5b7986b0$126c9410$@????.???>
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Very valid points indeed Bruce. Definitely a little planning would be
required.
Lucky for us, communication is something we are very blessed with these
days, and for that, I think is the easiest part.
Ie.. We have the Amsat Tuesday night net, The Wednesday night DMR/YSF net,
Dstar reflector, Twitter, Facebook, and even the Amsat website, to further
augment the Amsat BB.
Very true there would still be a few missed, but after a short time the word
would propagate, as we could even talk it up further on the linear
satellites to help encourage even more participation.
The word got out pretty fast about the AO-92 L-band mode changes each week. ?
I suspect the hardest part would be in deciding which satellite we could use
for something like this.
No doubt that AO-91 and AO-92 may not be the best choice due to the extreme
popularity there, but perhaps AO-27 or SO-50 could be a good option. Or
maybe even PO-101.
For our contacts in this period, it could be good practice to give your
callsign with "HT Night" or some similar designation as we do for other
special events to help let others know of the type of operation being used,
and I would expect to get a lot of questions from those not aware of what is
happening to join in, make a contact even, and learn what it's all about.
I very much believe it would be a bad thing to tell non-HT users they are
not allowed, as we should ever prevent inclusion of others, but just better
recommended to use portable or limited operating environments.
And certainly, it may take a few nights for the word to spread throughout
the community, but I feel very confident in the great spirit of Amsat and
the amateur population to help pull it off.
It's been great to hear from many others about the support of an idea like
this, hopefully that's an indication of real interest that might grow into
something.
All the best,
Walter/K5WH
-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb-bounces@?????.???> On Behalf Of Bruce via AMSAT-BB
Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2020 4:50 PM
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] FM Satellite HT Night Proposal
This is a great idea. However, have you thought about how you would let all
satellite operators know? The amsat-bb only reaches so many. Twitter and
FaceBook reach some of the same but still not all the operators.
Then you have operators that are not members of AMSAT, the amsat-bb, Twitter
and FaceBook. If you heard them on the satellite that one day, would you be
telling them this day is for HT's only? They may not be AMSAT members, they
use an online tracking program and have no idea of the new rules other than
there is a satellite passing over and I am going to work someone. Or, it was
their only day off that week. What if someone actually forgot that today is
HT day and was operating with 500 watts (just saying, there are 1kw linears
for VHF) from home which by the way is a total waste of electricity and
against the FCC rules. I still have my 170 watt VHF and 100 watt UHF linears
from AO-10/AO-13 days sitting on the shelf.
You can see how this would be nearly impossible to notify everyone. A good
example is AMSAT Field Day. It is a 24 hour period. For some 10 years we do
not allow contacts on FM satellites beyond 1 per satellite.
The reason is to allow space for those trying to make their ARRL satellite
bonus points enough time. You can still make all the contacts you want on
the FM satellites but we will only score 1 per satellite towards AMSAT Field
Day. As expected several reported multiple contacts on an FM satellite and
their score was adjusted. Field Day rules are written up in the Journal, on
the AMSAT website, in ANS and various other locations. Yet, there are
mistakes and they make multiple contacts. Sometimes the extra contact is
unavoidable. You work your first contact and because your signal was so
good, someone heard you and calls you. Instead of leaving them in the dust,
you answer their call and give them their bonus points. You just cannot
submit it for your AMSAT Field Day score.
This is the type of problem I think you would have if you were to try and
make one day an HT day. Being a great idea to have a low power day it would
be hard to let everyone know. Any suggestions on the notification process?
I think some of the frustration of new operators is not really having an HT
day, it would be the thinning of the crowds. Satellites have become very
popular in recent years and low cost HT's have made entry into working them
a lot easier. With any FM single channel repeater, when you have two people
trying to use it, it is a cake walk. When you have 100 operators across the
country all trying to get in, there is still only two that are going to make
a contact. I have experienced the issue, I roved with an HT and Arrow and I
too had problems getting in. The easiest contact for us in South Texas is
when a satellite is ascending from the South and we are one of the first in
the states to be in the window. Make a contact and done before the rest of
the U.S. is in the window. Same for those in the North when there is a
descending pass.
Sometimes you have to make the satellite location work in your favor. It
also works when you are the last in the window towards LOS. Or, for left and
right coast only passes there is less of the U.S. in the window.
These are natural thinning of the operators due to the satellite's position.
73...bruce
On 7/25/2020 3:43 PM, Doug Daniels via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> I am brand new to Satellites, and just made my first Q with my two
> HTs. I will never have the facilities to have anything more extensive
> than HTs and a Arrow/Elk type antenna. This type of agreement would be
> incredibly beneficial to me and those like me.
>
> Great idea, thanks.
>
> 73,
> Doug, K1RDD
>
> On Sat, Jul 25, 2020 at 2:00 AM Walter Holmes via AMSAT-BB <
> amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>
>> A little food for thought:
>>
>>
>>
>> Any idea what the chances would be of having something like 1 night a
>> week or month, on ONE of the FM birds, that could be reserved for HT
access only?
>>
>>
>>
>> My thinking on this would be a great way for people to test out their
>> portable or limited satellite stations with a great deal less
>> collisions against all the other much stronger stations.
>>
>>
>>
>> I have heard from plenty of people that would like to try a temporary
>> or portable station on the birds, but we all know that?s not even a
>> remote possibility unless your on super early in the morning or late at
night.
>>
>>
>>
>> Ie.. it would be great to see how many people could test and build
>> their skills to operate with an HT and an arrow or something, kinda
>> like the old days. ?
>>
>>
>>
>> Just dreaming out-loud. ?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Walter/K5WH
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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>>
>
--
Bruce Paige, KK5DO
AMSAT Director Contests and Awards
AMSAT Board Member 2016-2020
ARRL Awards Field Checker (WAS, 5BWAS, VUCC), VE
Houston AMSAT Net - Wed 0100z on Echolink - Conference *AMSAT* Also live
streaming MP3 at http://www.amsatnet.com Podcast at
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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2020 16:25:24 -0700
From: Grant Hopper <kb7wsd@?????.???>
To: "amsat-bb@?????.???? <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] FM Satellite HT Night Proposal
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Bruce, et al,
I appreciate the thought you put into the challenges that the proposal's
implementation would face as far as obtaining full compliance, but the
logical mistake is to perceive this as an all-or-nothing situation,
ie.either we achieve notification of all possible users, or we shouldn't
implement the idea. I think we'd all agree that's not a reasonable
standard. In fact, I'd suggest that a reasonable effort to put the word
out is all that is necessary and appropriate.
Just because communication of the policy would be difficult certainly does
not equate to not implementing the policy. After all, we have all sorts of
laws all around the world and we don't get perfect notification (or
compliance) there either, but the laws are none the less implemented.
Discretion in enforcement becomes part of that approach and solution.
We certainly already do that... we have people trying out satellites for
the first time on a regular basis and they certainly don't know the best
practices or policies, not to mention the rules. In fact you cite these
very things as happening today and that is exactly why it would be just
fine to implement an idea like this. We wouldn't be facing anything new in
terms of on-the-air occurrences. And just because we couldn't guarantee
perfect outcomes 100% of the time is certainly no reason to reject the
idea. The fact that we are able to add new ideas, practices, change rules,
and do all sorts of other stuff on a regular basis and to do so without
huge issues is the reason this idea SHOULD be implemented.
This is a hobby that boasts of an extraordinary ability to not only
communicate in an array of ways, but adaptability that few other pursuits
can claim. I'm confident that we (as a hobby) could easily accommodate and
adapt to working with an idea like Walter proposed.
It certainly would encourage a lot more people to operate (for instance,
one of the clubs I belong to has had in the last year, two presentations on
operating satellites and during Q&A the following came up: the challenge of
getting through when other stations are running more power and the sense of
hopelessness caused people to set aside the gear and stop trying.)
73,
Grant Hopper
KB7WSD
On Sat, Jul 25, 2020 at 2:54 PM Bruce via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
wrote:
> This is a great idea. However, have you thought about how you would let
> all satellite operators know? The amsat-bb only reaches so many. Twitter
> and FaceBook reach some of the same but still not all the operators.
> Then you have operators that are not members of AMSAT, the amsat-bb,
> Twitter and FaceBook. If you heard them on the satellite that one day,
> would you be telling them this day is for HT's only? They may not be
> AMSAT members, they use an online tracking program and have no idea of
> the new rules other than there is a satellite passing over and I am
> going to work someone. Or, it was their only day off that week. What if
> someone actually forgot that today is HT day and was operating with 500
> watts (just saying, there are 1kw linears for VHF) from home which by
> the way is a total waste of electricity and against the FCC rules. I
> still have my 170 watt VHF and 100 watt UHF linears from AO-10/AO-13
> days sitting on the shelf.
>
> You can see how this would be nearly impossible to notify everyone. A
> good example is AMSAT Field Day. It is a 24 hour period. For some 10
> years we do not allow contacts on FM satellites beyond 1 per satellite.
> The reason is to allow space for those trying to make their ARRL
> satellite bonus points enough time. You can still make all the contacts
> you want on the FM satellites but we will only score 1 per satellite
> towards AMSAT Field Day. As expected several reported multiple contacts
> on an FM satellite and their score was adjusted. Field Day rules are
> written up in the Journal, on the AMSAT website, in ANS and various
> other locations. Yet, there are mistakes and they make multiple
> contacts. Sometimes the extra contact is unavoidable. You work your
> first contact and because your signal was so good, someone heard you and
> calls you. Instead of leaving them in the dust, you answer their call
> and give them their bonus points. You just cannot submit it for your
> AMSAT Field Day score.
>
> This is the type of problem I think you would have if you were to try
> and make one day an HT day. Being a great idea to have a low power day
> it would be hard to let everyone know. Any suggestions on the
> notification process?
>
> I think some of the frustration of new operators is not really having an
> HT day, it would be the thinning of the crowds. Satellites have become
> very popular in recent years and low cost HT's have made entry into
> working them a lot easier. With any FM single channel repeater, when you
> have two people trying to use it, it is a cake walk. When you have 100
> operators across the country all trying to get in, there is still only
> two that are going to make a contact. I have experienced the issue, I
> roved with an HT and Arrow and I too had problems getting in. The
> easiest contact for us in South Texas is when a satellite is ascending
> from the South and we are one of the first in the states to be in the
> window. Make a contact and done before the rest of the U.S. is in the
> window. Same for those in the North when there is a descending pass.
> Sometimes you have to make the satellite location work in your favor. It
> also works when you are the last in the window towards LOS. Or, for left
> and right coast only passes there is less of the U.S. in the window.
> These are natural thinning of the operators due to the satellite's
> position.
>
> 73...bruce
>
> On 7/25/2020 3:43 PM, Doug Daniels via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> > I am brand new to Satellites, and just made my first Q with my two HTs. I
> > will never have the facilities to have anything more extensive than HTs
> and
> > a Arrow/Elk type antenna. This type of agreement would be incredibly
> > beneficial to me and those like me.
> >
> > Great idea, thanks.
> >
> > 73,
> > Doug, K1RDD
> >
> > On Sat, Jul 25, 2020 at 2:00 AM Walter Holmes via AMSAT-BB <
> > amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
> >
> >> A little food for thought:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Any idea what the chances would be of having something like 1 night a
> week
> >> or month, on ONE of the FM birds, that could be reserved for HT access
> only?
> >>
> >>
>
> >>
> >> My thinking on this would be a great way for people to test out their
> >> portable or limited satellite stations with a great deal less collisions
> >> against all the other much stronger stations.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I have heard from plenty of people that would like to try a temporary or
> >> portable station on the birds, but we all know that?s not even a remote
> >> possibility unless your on super early in the morning or late at night.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Ie.. it would be great to see how many people could test and build
> their
> >> skills to operate with an HT and an arrow or something, kinda like the
> old
> >> days. ?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Just dreaming out-loud. ?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Walter/K5WH
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions
> >> expressed
> >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> >> AMSAT-NA.
> >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
> >> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> >>
> >
>
>
> --
>
> Bruce Paige, KK5DO
>
> AMSAT Director Contests and Awards
> AMSAT Board Member 2016-2020
>
> ARRL Awards Field Checker (WAS, 5BWAS, VUCC), VE
>
> Houston AMSAT Net - Wed 0100z on Echolink - Conference *AMSAT*
> Also live streaming MP3 at http://www.amsatnet.com
> Podcast at http://www.amsatnet.com/podcast.xml or iTunes
>
> Latest satellite news on the ARRL Audio News
> http://www.arrl.org
>
> AMSAT on Twitter http://www.twitter.com/amsat
>
>
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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2020 19:29:58 -0400
From: Burns Fisher <wb1fj-bb@??????.??>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Modernized/Efficient Voting [was: Ballots?]
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Just a note to say that I agree that a more modern election method would be
good. Reading the bylaws, the dates for nominations, latest mailing of
ballots, and closing of voting is fixed. The secretary has some discretion
in conducting the election, but at least some changes may require a bylaws
amendment (depending on how you interpret "written" and "mailed"). That
can be done by two thirds of the board.
I also note that right now, the bylaws specify dates that give at least one
month between nomination and mailing, two months between latest mailing
date and latest return date. It does seem to me that if we could
streamline and shorten the process it would be way better for all concerned.
73,
Burns WB1FJ
On Sat, Jul 25, 2020 at 6:36 PM Pete (Vk2pet) via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
> Hi all.
>
> Unfortunately I think my vote will be missed. I still haven?t received my
> voting paper. It takes over a month for mail from the USA to reach
> Australia. Then to post it back it just as long.
>
> There needs to be a system where overseas members can vote & with out
> being hostage to the snail mail system.
>
> 73
>
> Pete
> Vk2pet
>
>
>
>
> > On 26 Jul 2020, at 04:46, Ev Tupis via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
> wrote:
> >
> > ?The wisdom of the crowd is coming into focus. -Ev, W2EV
> >
> >
> > Doug Faunt N6TQS wrote:
> > Print, sign, scan, email should be an acceptable solution.
> > 73, Doug
> >
> >
> > Jean Marc Momple <jean.marc.momple@?????.???> worte:
> >
> > Therefore, I strongly suggest that electronic vote be put in place or at
> > least the ballots should be sent trough e-mail and scan sign copy of the
> > duly filled document be valid for far away members.
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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2020 17:00:06 -0700
From: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@????.???>
To: ans@?????.???? AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] ANS-208 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins
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AMSAT NEWS SERVICE
ANS-208
The AMSAT News Service bulletins are a free, weekly news and infor-
mation service of AMSAT, The Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation. ANS
publishes news related to Amateur Radio in Space including reports on
the activities of a worldwide group of Amateur Radio operators who
share an active interest in designing, building, launching and commun-
icating through analog and digital Amateur Radio satellites.
The news feed on http://www.amsat.org publishes news of Amateur
Radio in Space as soon as our volunteers can post it.
Please send any amateur satellite news or reports to:
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You can sign up for free e-mail delivery of the AMSAT News Service
Bulletins via the ANS List; to join this list see:
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In this edition:
* AMSAT Partners with UMaine's WiSe-Net Lab to Develop Maine's First
Small Satellite
* AMSAT-UK Announces OSCAR Satellite QSO Party
* JARL Announces FO-29 Operation Schedule for August
* Christopher Brault, KD8YVJ, Named 2020 Newsline Young Ham of the
Year
* Hamfests, Conventions, Maker Faires, and Other Events
* Upcoming Satellite Operations
* Upcoming ARISS Contacts
* Satellite Shorts from All Over
SB SAT @ AMSAT $ANS-208.01
ANS-208 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins
AMSAT News Service Bulletin 208.01
From AMSAT HQ KENSINGTON, MD.
DATE July 26, 2020
To All RADIO AMATEURS
BID: $ANS-208.01
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Due to the COVID-19 pandemic, the AMSAT office
is closed until further notice. For details, please visit
https://www.amsat.org/amsat-office-closed-until-further-notice/
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AMSAT Partners with UMaine's WiSe-Net Lab to Develop Maine's First
Small Satellite
The University of Maine Wireless Sensing Laboratory (WiSe-Net Lab) and
AMSAT have signed an agreement to collaborate on building and
operating MESAT1, Maine?s first small satellite, to be launched in
space in the next three years.
MESAT1 is Maine's first CubeSat ? one of 18 small research satellites
selected by NASA to carry auxiliary payloads into space between 2021?
23. It is part of NASA?s CubeSat Launch Initiative that provides
opportunities for nanosatellite science and technology payloads built
by universities, schools and nonprofit organizations to ride share on
space launches.
UMaine?s WiSe-Net Lab, established in 2005, is involved in aerospace
and space research. The lab was founded by Ali Abedi, KB1VJV,
assistant vice president for research and director of the Center for
Undergraduate Research. Lab researchers have developed the first
wireless sensor network for NASA?s lunar habitation project and
launched wireless leak-detection to the International Space station.
The MESAT1 initiative will enable K?12 students and teachers in Maine
to access space data for educational and research purposes, and
encourage students to pursue STEM careers.
AMSAT will provide a Linear Transponder Module (LTM) along with
integration and operational support for MESAT1. AMSAT's LTM
incorporates a VHF/UHF telemetry beacon, command receiver, and linear
transponder. It will be available for radio amateurs worldwide to use
when the satellite is commissioned.
AMSAT President Clayton Coleman, W5PFG, celebrated the announcement.
"This is a great day for AMSAT and UMaine's Wise-Net Lab. This
partnership is a true win-win for both education and the amateur radio
community. The collaborative effort under AMSAT's engineering and
operations teams has once again succeeded to bring another opportunity
to AMSAT."
[ANS thanks AMSAT and UMaine's WiSe-Net Lab for the above
information]
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AMSAT-UK Announces OSCAR Satellite QSO Party
The objective of the AMSAT-UK OSCAR Satellite QSO Party is to
encourage all radio amateurs around the world to get on the air and
make contacts via satellites during northern hemisphere summer. We
would like to attract both seasoned die-hard operators as well as all
newcomers who are just getting involved.
While points are given per QSO this isn?t a contest, but we hope it
will encourage people to get on the air and enjoy the excitement of
making contacts through satellites.
The AMSAT-UK OSCAR Satellite QSO Party will be supported by an online
leaderboard which will be available from the start of the event which
runs from 00:00 GMT on 1st August until 23:59 GMT on 22nd September.
Prizes will be awarded to those from first to thirteenth place and
are open to both AMSAT-UK and non-members around the world.
? First Place ?250 Amazon Voucher
? Second Place ?150 Amazon Voucher
? Third Place ?50 Amazon Voucher
? Fourth to Thirteenth Place One Year AMSAT-UK Membership
Download the rules for the AMSAT-UK OSCAR QSO Party at
https://tinyurl.com/OSCAR-QSO-Party
Leaderboard https://leaderboard.amsat-uk.org/
[ANS thanks AMSAT-UK for the above information]
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AMSAT's GOLF Program is about getting back to higher orbits, and it
all begins with GOLF-TEE ? a technology demonstrator for deployable
solar panels, propulsion, and attitude control. Come along for the
ride. The journey will be worth it!
https://tinyurl.com/ANS-GOLF
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JARL Announces FO-29 Operation Schedule for August
FO-29 will be activated by ground command at the following times in
August 2020. The satellite will remain active after each command
until the undervoltage controller shuts the satellite off to prevent
overdischarge of the now-24 year old NiCd batteries.
1 03:40 05:25 13:55
2 02:45 04:30
8 02:30 04:15 14:30
9 03:25 05:05 13:35
10 02:25 04:10
15 03:05 04:50
16 02:10 03:55 14:10
22 01:55 03:40 13:55
23 02:45 04:30 13:00
29 02:30 04:15 14:30
30 03:20 05:05
[ANS thanks JARL and JA1OGZ for the above information]
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Purchase AMSAT Gear on our Zazzle storefront.
25% of the purchase price of each product goes
towards Keeping Amateur Radio in Space
https://www.zazzle.com/amsat_gear
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Christopher Brault, KD8YVJ, Named 2020 Newsline Young Ham of the Year
Christopher Brault, KD8YVJ, of suburban Cincinnati, has been selected
as the 2020 Bill Pasternak WA6ITF Memorial Amateur Radio Newsline
Young Ham of the Year.
Chris, 18, is the son of Jocelyn Brault, KD8VRX, and Kimberly Brault,
of Liberty Township, Ohio. Chris earned his Technician class license
in 2014 and passed his General ticket about a year later. He said his
father was his guide into amateur radio. Chris recalled car trips,
watching and listening to his father operating mobile. "We would be on
a road trip somewhere," Chris said. "We'd be talking to people along
the way, it seemed like fun." Chris is a member of the Dayton Amateur
Radio Association, the West Chester Amateur Radio Association, and the
Ohio Valley Experimenters Club.
An honor student entering his senior year at St. Xavier High School,
Cincinnati, Chris helped restart the school's amateur radio club
(W8GYH). He has earned recognition for his many achievements in
promoting amateur radio including the Hiram Percy Maxim Award (2015);
the Ohio Section Special Recognition Award (2016); and the Great Lakes
Division Young Amateur of the Year (2017). In 2017, Chris was invited
to join the Dave Kalter Youth DX Adventure to Costa Rica where he
worked the stations with Bryant Rascoll, KG5HVO, the 2018 YHOTY award
winner, and Austin Harris, WA8CCS, in making more than 3,100 contacts.
Chris also helped in the planning of an Amateur Radio on the
International Space Station (ARISS) contact in 2016 and spoke with
Astronaut Kate Rubins KG5FYJ while she flew overhead. Chris is social
media director for the Youth on the Air organization and is a
contesting mentor for youth who are involved in its programs. He is
also a tour guide for the National Voice of America Museum of
Broadcasting in West Chester, Ohio, and actively assists in mentoring
young operators at its amateur radio station, WC8VOA. Chris also works
annually with his father on putting youth on the air in the annual
Jamboree on the Air in October. He has also been a presenter at the
Dayton Youth Forum (2017) and Orlando Hamcation (2017). Chris recently
started working a part-time job at the Butler County Regional Airport
near his home and was invited to take flying lessons. He is pursuing
his private pilot's license and is exploring a career in aviation as a
commercial pilot.
The YHOTY award is traditionally presented during the Huntsville
Hamfest in August in the Von Braun Center, Huntsville AL. However,
because of the Covid-19 pandemic, the hamfest was cancelled. Chris
recently received a certificate of recognition presented in West
Chester, Ohio by Amateur Radio Newsline's Don Wilbanks, AE5DW. The
Young Ham of the Year Award was inaugurated by William Pasternak,
WA6ITF, in 1986. Upon his passing in 2015, Bill's name was added to
the award as a memorial to his commitment to recognizing the
accomplishments of young people to the amateur radio service.
Amateur Radio Newsline, CQ Magazine, and Yaesu USA are primary
sponsors of the award, along with Heil Sound Ltd. and Radiowavz
Antenna Company.
[ANS thanks the CQ Newsroom and Amateur Radio Newsline for the above
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Hamfests, Conventions, Maker Faires, and Other Events
Want to see AMSAT in action or learn more about amateur radio in
space?
AMSAT Ambassadors provide presentations, demonstrate communicating
through amateur satellites, and host information tables at club
meetings, hamfests, conventions, maker faires, and other events.
Due to COVID-19, many hamfest and events around the United States have
been canceled or postponed. While we make every effort to ensure the
information contained below is correct, there may be some that we
missed.
No events are currently scheduled. We wish all of you safekeeping and
hope to be at a hamfest near you soon.
[ANS thanks Robert Bankston, KE4AL, AMSAT Vice President - User
Services, for the above information]
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Need new satellite antennas? Purchase Arrows, Alaskan Arrows,
and M2 LEO-Packs from the AMSAT Store. When you purchase through
AMSAT, a portion of the proceeds goes towards
Keeping Amateur Radio in Space.
https://amsat.org/product-category/hardware/
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Upcoming Satellite Operations
Note: all @ signs refer to Twitter usernames.
Quick Hits:
Do you need Hawaii? NH7WN on AO-7 Most days. Reach out for a schedule
How about IL38 + IL39 Lanzarote, Canary Islands? Check out @????? for
details.
FN44/54, 7/22 ? 7/31, KQ2RP: Just like last time, FM only.
EN20/30 Line, July 28-31, @???? : Sean is moving quickly towards his
VUCC/R award by heading out again for two more grids. Watch his
Twitter for details.
DM97/98 & EM08/09: Super Rover @????? is heading out for the Kansas
QSO party and N0E. More to come.
Schedule to come: FN11+21 then 12+22 grid lines, @???? Steve is
heading out to these lines. Schedule to come.
@????? is heading out again!!!
Mon 7/20 SSB and FM passes from DN67/68
Every pass from about 16:00 ? 04:00
Tues 7/21 SSB and FM passes from DN57/58.
Every pass from about 16:00 ? 04:00
Wed. 7/22 Travel day no sats
Thurs 7/23 SSB and FM passes from DN55/56.
Every pass from about 16:00 ? 04:00
Fri 7/24 SSB and FM passes from DN65/66.
Every pass from about 16:00 ? 04:00
Watch his QRZ page for details and updates.
@???? is heading out on an EN rove to end all EN roves!!!!! The KX9X
#MidwestMegaRove is ON!
Itinerary for the #KX9X #MidwestMegaRove:
7/28 EN40, 41 (Casual)
7/29 EN32/42 grid line (IA)
7/30 EN20/21/30/31 intersection. If turned away, 20/30 & 21/31 lines
7/31 EM38/39 (MO)
8/1 EM48/49 (IL, QRT 1700z) QRT by 2200z daily.
@?????? is heading out again for the South Dakota Super Rove Part I
Rove Map: Grids DN74, DN75, DN84, DN85, DN94, DN95, EN04, EN05, EN14,
EN15, EN16, and EN17. July 31st through August 7th. Pass times at
https://twitter.com/AD0HJ/status/1284669314637930499
Then as if that isn?t enough, there is more: South Dakota Super Rove
Part II Rove Map: Grids DN73, DN82, DN83, DN92, DN93, EN02, EN03,
EN12, EN24, and EN25. August 17th through August 21st.
Then Mitch is going for Part 2 of the South Dakota Super Rove:
EN24/EN25,DN73/DN83, DN82/DN92, DN93/EN03, EN02/EN12. Part 2 details
at https://twitter.com/AD0HJ/status/1285747202367852544
Please submit any additions or corrections to ke0pbr at gmail.com
[ANS thanks Paul Overn, KE0PBR, for the above information]
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Upcoming ARISS Contacts
Quick list of scheduled contacts and events:
American School of Rio de Janeiro, Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, Multi-point
telebridge via ON4ISS
The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be OR4ISS
The scheduled astronaut is Chris Cassidy KF5KDR
Contact is go for: Thu 2020-07-30 16:41:42 UTC 78 deg
Watch for live simulcast starting about 10 minutes before AOS at:
https://youtu.be/MSyfzEHYwrE
[ANS thanks Charlie Sufana, AJ9N, ARISS Operations, for the above
information]
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AMSAT, along with our ARISS partners, is developing an amateur
radio package, including two-way communication capability, to
be carried on-board Gateway in lunar orbit.
Support AMSAT's projects today at https://www.amsat.org/donate/
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Satellite Shorts From All Over
+ Congratulations to Hector Martinez, W5CBF, on earning AMSAT
GridMaster Award #13. The AMSAT GridMaster Award is available for
amateur radio operators who confirm two-way QSOs with all 488 grids
in the continental United States. Hector's last needed grid was DL98.
AMSAT President Clayton Coleman, W5PFG, made the 12 hour round-trip
drive to activate the grid for Hector. (via KK5DO and W5CBF)
+ Ballots for the 2020 AMSAT Board of Directors election were mailed
on July 14th via presorted standard mail to US addresses and via first
class mail to overseas addresses to all members in good standing as of
July 1st. Members desiring a replacement ballot package should contact
AMSAT Secretary Brennan Price, N4QX, at brennanprice@???????.??? no
earlier than August 12th. AMSAT members may log on to the membership
portal at launch.amsat.org to verify that their address was correct as
of July 1st. (via N4QX)
+ The La Mesa Courier has published an article about Kerry Banke,
N6IZW, and his involvement in developing the ARISS Multi-Voltage Power
Supply. https://lamesacourier.com/space-radio/
+ The IARU has coordinated a frequency for AMSAT Nepal's SanoSat-1
PocketQube. The satellite is planned for launch Q4 2020.
http://www.amsatuk.me.uk/iaru/finished_detail.php?serialnum=732
+ The IARU has also completed coordination for the Tevel Mission.
This series of 8 identical CubeSats will be able to be commanded to
operate as V/u FM transponders with a downlink of 436.400 MHz and an
uplink of 145.970 MHz.
http://www.amsatuk.me.uk/iaru/finished_detail.php?serialnum=744
+ Peter Goodhall, 2M0SQL, has released Pass Recorder 2.0. This
software is designed to automate the recording of satellite passes
and interfaces with SatPC32. Changes in version 2.0 include support
for SatPC32ISS, improved memory usage, and slight UI improvements.
Download the software at https://www.2m0sql.com/pass-recorder/
+ JARL reluctantly announced the cancellation of Tokyo Ham Fair 2020
scheduled on October 31st and November 1st, as JARL cannot guarantee
the safety and perfect prevention from COVID-19 infection, even if we
take all possible preventive measures. The schedule of Tokyo Ham Fair
2021 is yet to be fixed, but we will announce it when we fix the venue
and dates. (via JARL and JAMSAT)
+ After HO-107's return last week, the satellite has again gone silent
with the last telemetry received on July 20th at 00:00:22 UTC. Please
continue to track the satellite in FoxTelem so additional telemetry
can be gathered if the satellite begins transmitting again.
+ All issues of The AMSAT Journal dating back to 2014 are now
available to AMSAT members on AMSAT's new membership portal. The
1969-2013 archive will be added at a later date. All editions of
AMSAT's Symposium Proceedings are also available for members. If
you're a current AMSAT member, get logged on today. If you are not yet
a member, consider joining today at https://launch.amsat.org/
+ The 2020 edition of AMSAT?s Getting Started with Amateur Satellites
is now available on the AMSAT store. A perennial favorite, Getting
Started is updated every year with the latest amateur satellite
information, and is the premier primer of satellite operation. The
book is presented in DRM-free PDF format, in full color, and covers
all aspects of making your first contacts on a ham radio satellite.
The digital download is available for $15 at
https://tinyurl.com/2020GettingStarted
+ The AMSAT Folding at home team continues to climb the rankings. Now
in the top 800 of all teams at the time of this writing, the team has
grown to 48 members with 67 active CPUs within the past 50 days and
includes 14 members in the top 100,000 of all users. Alex Free,
N7AGF, is our top contributor with nearly 170,000,000 points credited
to AMSAT's team. For more information about the Folding at home
project and how you can contribute to scientific research, including
the fight against COVID-19, see https://foldingathome.org/. AMSAT's
team number is 69710: https://stats.foldingathome.org/team/69710
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In addition to regular membership, AMSAT offers membership in the
President's Club. Members of the President's Club, as sustaining
donors to AMSAT Project Funds, will be eligible to receive addi-
tional benefits. President's Club donations may be made at
https://tinyurl.com/ANS-PresClub.
Primary and secondary school students are eligible for membership
at one-half the standard yearly rate. Post-secondary school students
enrolled in at least half time status shall be eligible for the stu-
dent rate for a maximum of 6 post-secondary years in this status.
Join AMSAT today at https://launch.amsat.org/
73 and remember to help Keep Amateur Radio in Space,
This week's ANS Editor,
Paul Stoetzer, N8HM
n8hm at amsat dot org
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