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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Easy and FUN Antenna Projects (Clint Bradford)
2. Re: AMSAT-BB Digest, Vol 15, Issue 301 (Rick Harrington)
3. Re: Historical Data download for FOX-1A? (Burns Fisher)
4. Re: Historical Data download for FOX-1A? (Bill Gaylord)
5. Re: Historical Data download for FOX-1A? (Burns Fisher)
6. Re: Historical Data download for FOX-1A? (Chris Thompson)
7. Coax failure (Russ Kinner)
8. Re: Historical Data download for FOX-1A? (Bill Gaylord)
9. Re: Historical Data download for FOX-1A? (Mark L. Hammond)
10. Re: Historical Data download for FOX-1A? (Bill Gaylord)
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2020 15:01:53 -0700
From: Clint Bradford <clintbradford@???.???>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Easy and FUN Antenna Projects
Message-ID: <D01A8C5F-310D-46F5-858A-E8B8915B22AD@???.???>
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Roy Dean:
You need a little education.
?Spam? is irrelevant or inappropriate messages sent indiscriminately to all
audiences.
?Advertising? is the activity or profession of producing ads for commercial
products or services.
What do I offer on my Web site? Information. Free-of-charge. No product nor
service that
benefits me personally.
SO ? What I did - post ANTENNA PROJECTS to groups entitled ?antennas,?
?satellites,? and
?DIY Projects? is really quite an appropriate use of the ?Net. No spam.
Target audiences.
Clint Bradford K6LCS
>> ...Clint, do you really need to spam the internet with advertisements for
your website?
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2020 17:50:00 -0500
From: Rick Harrington <wr0honline@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AMSAT-BB Digest, Vol 15, Issue 301
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Just a couple of cents worth....IMO, nothing worthwhile will be
accomplished toward welcoming new ops to satellite operation until the
malicious QRM on the FM birds is stopped by someone with the ability and
motivation to do so.
73,
Rick WR0H
>>> On 7/25/2020 3:43 PM, Doug Daniels via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> >>> I am brand new to Satellites, and just made my first Q with my two
> HTs. I
> >>> will never have the facilities to have anything more extensive than HTs
> >> and
> >>> a Arrow/Elk type antenna. This type of agreement would be incredibly
> >>> beneficial to me and those like me.
> >>>
> >>> Great idea, thanks.
> >>>
> >>> 73,
> >>> Doug, K1RDD
> >>>
> >>> On Sat, Jul 25, 2020 at 2:00 AM Walter Holmes via AMSAT-BB <
> >>> amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> A little food for thought:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Any idea what the chances would be of having something like 1 night a
> >> week
> >>>> or month, on ONE of the FM birds, that could be reserved for HT access
> >> only?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>
> >>>>
> >>>> My thinking on this would be a great way for people to test out their
> >>>> portable or limited satellite stations with a great deal less
> collisions
> >>>> against all the other much stronger stations.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> I have heard from plenty of people that would like to try a temporary
> or
> >>>> portable station on the birds, but we all know that?s not even a
> remote
> >>>> possibility unless your on super early in the morning or late at
> night.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Ie.. it would be great to see how many people could test and build
> >> their
> >>>> skills to operate with an HT and an arrow or something, kinda like the
> >> old
> >>>> days. ?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Just dreaming out-loud. ?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Walter/K5WH
>
>
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2020 19:18:45 -0400
From: Burns Fisher <wb1fj-bb@??????.??>
To: Bill Gaylord <chibill110@?????.???>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Historical Data download for FOX-1A?
Message-ID:
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What CSV files are you getting from FoxTelem. As I recall they all have a
first line that has the name of the field. Or do you mean
translation from downlinked units to standard units (like volts, ma,
degrees, etc)? I'm not sure there is a doc, but there probably should be.
Let us know what you need to know.
Burns WB1FJ
On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 4:38 PM Bill Gaylord via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
> Is there a document on how the CSV files are formatted? (I can't seem to
> find any information on what columns are what.)
>
> KD9KCK
>
> On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 2:07 AM Jerry Buxton via AMSAT-BB <
> amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>
> > Bill,
> >
> > You can download all of the data for any particular satellite with
> > FoxTelem, using the "fetch server data" menu item.
> > I would suggest setting up/switching to a separate FoxTelem data
> > directory for that so the info doesn't overwrite your own captured data
> > and can be left alone to play with.
> >
> > Your analysis is of interest to engineering and many others I am sure,
> > once you have studied the data and come to some conclusions or
> > hypotheses you may want to consider presenting it in an AMSAT Journal
> > article.
> >
> > Jerry Buxton, N?JY
> >
> > On 7/25/2020 22:22, Bill Gaylord via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> > > Is it possible to get some sort of download for the Historical
> Telemetry
> > > downlinked by Fox-1A? It would be interesting to study its life in
> space.
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions
> > expressed
> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> > AMSAT-NA.
> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
> > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> >
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2020 19:30:34 -0400
From: Bill Gaylord <chibill110@?????.???>
To: Burns Fisher <wb1fj-bb@??????.??>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Historical Data download for FOX-1A?
Message-ID:
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Actually they are .log files but there the data in the FOXDB folder. None
of them have headers for the columns. But now that I think about it they
are probably the same as the columns in the tables when you actually run
FoxTelem.
KD9KCK
On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 7:18 PM Burns Fisher <wb1fj-bb@??????.??> wrote:
> What CSV files are you getting from FoxTelem. As I recall they all have a
> first line that has the name of the field. Or do you mean
> translation from downlinked units to standard units (like volts, ma,
> degrees, etc)? I'm not sure there is a doc, but there probably should be.
> Let us know what you need to know.
>
> Burns WB1FJ
>
> On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 4:38 PM Bill Gaylord via AMSAT-BB <
> amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>
>> Is there a document on how the CSV files are formatted? (I can't seem to
>> find any information on what columns are what.)
>>
>> KD9KCK
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 2:07 AM Jerry Buxton via AMSAT-BB <
>> amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>>
>> > Bill,
>> >
>> > You can download all of the data for any particular satellite with
>> > FoxTelem, using the "fetch server data" menu item.
>> > I would suggest setting up/switching to a separate FoxTelem data
>> > directory for that so the info doesn't overwrite your own captured data
>> > and can be left alone to play with.
>> >
>> > Your analysis is of interest to engineering and many others I am sure,
>> > once you have studied the data and come to some conclusions or
>> > hypotheses you may want to consider presenting it in an AMSAT Journal
>> > article.
>> >
>> > Jerry Buxton, N?JY
>> >
>> > On 7/25/2020 22:22, Bill Gaylord via AMSAT-BB wrote:
>> > > Is it possible to get some sort of download for the Historical
>> Telemetry
>> > > downlinked by Fox-1A? It would be interesting to study its life in
>> space.
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>> Opinions
>> > expressed
>> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>> > AMSAT-NA.
>> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>> program!
>> > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>> >
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>> Opinions expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>> AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>
>
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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2020 19:35:25 -0400
From: Burns Fisher <wb1fj-bb@??????.??>
To: Bill Gaylord <chibill110@?????.???>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Historical Data download for FOX-1A?
Message-ID:
<CABX7KxWm43783xCCt6sUM-6=zczkLtaBzixsAempt+ty_LPBvA@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
I know you can export CSV files from any graph that you make. There is a
button on the graph. I hear what you are saying about the FOXDB contents.
I'm not sure if you can export the full monty, but I suspect the files in
FOXDB may differ from satellite to satellite. I will ask the developer
and let you know.
Burns WB1FJ
On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 7:30 PM Bill Gaylord <chibill110@?????.???> wrote:
> Actually they are .log files but there the data in the FOXDB folder. None
> of them have headers for the columns. But now that I think about it they
> are probably the same as the columns in the tables when you actually run
> FoxTelem.
>
> KD9KCK
>
> On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 7:18 PM Burns Fisher <wb1fj-bb@??????.??> wrote:
>
>> What CSV files are you getting from FoxTelem. As I recall they all have
>> a first line that has the name of the field. Or do you mean
>> translation from downlinked units to standard units (like volts, ma,
>> degrees, etc)? I'm not sure there is a doc, but there probably should be.
>> Let us know what you need to know.
>>
>> Burns WB1FJ
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 4:38 PM Bill Gaylord via AMSAT-BB <
>> amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>>
>>> Is there a document on how the CSV files are formatted? (I can't seem to
>>> find any information on what columns are what.)
>>>
>>> KD9KCK
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 2:07 AM Jerry Buxton via AMSAT-BB <
>>> amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>>>
>>> > Bill,
>>> >
>>> > You can download all of the data for any particular satellite with
>>> > FoxTelem, using the "fetch server data" menu item.
>>> > I would suggest setting up/switching to a separate FoxTelem data
>>> > directory for that so the info doesn't overwrite your own captured data
>>> > and can be left alone to play with.
>>> >
>>> > Your analysis is of interest to engineering and many others I am sure,
>>> > once you have studied the data and come to some conclusions or
>>> > hypotheses you may want to consider presenting it in an AMSAT Journal
>>> > article.
>>> >
>>> > Jerry Buxton, N?JY
>>> >
>>> > On 7/25/2020 22:22, Bill Gaylord via AMSAT-BB wrote:
>>> > > Is it possible to get some sort of download for the Historical
>>> Telemetry
>>> > > downlinked by Fox-1A? It would be interesting to study its life in
>>> space.
>>> >
>>> > _______________________________________________
>>> > Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>>> Opinions
>>> > expressed
>>> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
>>> of
>>> > AMSAT-NA.
>>> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>>> program!
>>> > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>> >
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>>> Opinions expressed
>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>>> AMSAT-NA.
>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>>> program!
>>> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>>
>>
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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2020 20:37:36 -0400
From: Chris Thompson <g0kla@????.???>
To: Burns Fisher <wb1fj-bb@??????.??>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Historical Data download for FOX-1A?
Message-ID:
<CAJOf0+uQjWN5ZkVMxqHQY9eCfRBg4eRCk4ub3wKtsYgOwX3LwQ@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
Hi Bill,
You can download all of the data for AO-85 from this link:
http://amsat.org/tlm/ao85/serverlogs.tar.gz That contains the raw data in
CSV format. For Fox-1A the conversions are defined in the back of the
manual for FoxTelem.
As Jerry said, your best bet might be to use FoxTelem. You can save the
data as a CSV file from any graph. Even if it plots multiple channels.
That allows you to save converted data in human readable form and do
further analysis in another program.
I'm more than happy to walk you through how to do this and help extracting
or converting the data. Let me know how I can help.
73
Chris
On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 8:26 PM Burns Fisher via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
> What CSV files are you getting from FoxTelem. As I recall they all have a
> first line that has the name of the field. Or do you mean
> translation from downlinked units to standard units (like volts, ma,
> degrees, etc)? I'm not sure there is a doc, but there probably should be.
> Let us know what you need to know.
>
> Burns WB1FJ
>
> On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 4:38 PM Bill Gaylord via AMSAT-BB <
> amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>
> > Is there a document on how the CSV files are formatted? (I can't seem to
> > find any information on what columns are what.)
> >
> > KD9KCK
> >
> > On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 2:07 AM Jerry Buxton via AMSAT-BB <
> > amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
> >
> > > Bill,
> > >
> > > You can download all of the data for any particular satellite with
> > > FoxTelem, using the "fetch server data" menu item.
> > > I would suggest setting up/switching to a separate FoxTelem data
> > > directory for that so the info doesn't overwrite your own captured data
> > > and can be left alone to play with.
> > >
> > > Your analysis is of interest to engineering and many others I am sure,
> > > once you have studied the data and come to some conclusions or
> > > hypotheses you may want to consider presenting it in an AMSAT Journal
> > > article.
> > >
> > > Jerry Buxton, N?JY
> > >
> > > On 7/25/2020 22:22, Bill Gaylord via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> > > > Is it possible to get some sort of download for the Historical
> > Telemetry
> > > > downlinked by Fox-1A? It would be interesting to study its life in
> > space.
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> > Opinions
> > > expressed
> > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
> of
> > > AMSAT-NA.
> > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> > program!
> > > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> > >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions
> > expressed
> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> > AMSAT-NA.
> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
> > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> >
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
--
Chris E. Thompson
chrisethompson@?????.???
g0kla@????.???
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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2020 18:06:44 -0700
From: Russ Kinner <wizardofzid@?????.???>
To: "amsat-bb@????? org" <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Coax failure
Message-ID: <om8cmtriugy6feihgtkuyouw.1595811919675@?????.???????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Well, my shortcuts in installing my VHF/UHF antennas finally caught me. I
took the antenna down and it got away from me so the coax was kinked where
it exited the house and the shield and center conductor opened. Very nice
peak in the TDR function in my Nano-VNA where the open happened.
New coax connectors on the way with the proper lightening connector so I can
better protect the installation. You take short cuts, you eventually pay.
So I'm stuck at 98 confirmed LotW for a few more days. Even with 50 years
licensed, sometimes you get a lesson dropping you down a notch or two.
Rusty. WA8ZID
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Message: 8
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2020 20:09:15 -0500
From: Bill Gaylord <chibill110@?????.???>
To: Chris Thompson <g0kla@????.???>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Historical Data download for FOX-1A?
Message-ID:
<CALS66Fu-Ea2i63w1HXJ2iz638CUZX74u2LKbDaVYKH+HtctB1g@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
Thank you very much! Not at my computer at the moment but i will take a
look in a bit.
Btw is there a way for FoxTelem to be told what time it is to allow to
process passes shortly after they occur? (I plan on trying to automate
pulling data from SatNOGS for the still operating Foxes.)
Also not totally related but any idea where i can look for old TLE for
Fox-1A. I normally go to SpaceTrack to get thay sort of stuff but because
Fox-1A doesnt exist there its not going to help much.
KD9KCK
On Sun, Jul 26, 2020, 7:37 PM Chris Thompson <g0kla@????.???> wrote:
> Hi Bill,
>
> You can download all of the data for AO-85 from this link:
> http://amsat.org/tlm/ao85/serverlogs.tar.gz That contains the raw data
> in CSV format. For Fox-1A the conversions are defined in the back of the
> manual for FoxTelem.
>
> As Jerry said, your best bet might be to use FoxTelem. You can save the
> data as a CSV file from any graph. Even if it plots multiple channels.
> That allows you to save converted data in human readable form and do
> further analysis in another program.
>
> I'm more than happy to walk you through how to do this and help extracting
> or converting the data. Let me know how I can help.
>
> 73
> Chris
>
> On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 8:26 PM Burns Fisher via AMSAT-BB <
> amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>
>> What CSV files are you getting from FoxTelem. As I recall they all have a
>> first line that has the name of the field. Or do you mean
>> translation from downlinked units to standard units (like volts, ma,
>> degrees, etc)? I'm not sure there is a doc, but there probably should be.
>> Let us know what you need to know.
>>
>> Burns WB1FJ
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 4:38 PM Bill Gaylord via AMSAT-BB <
>> amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>>
>> > Is there a document on how the CSV files are formatted? (I can't seem to
>> > find any information on what columns are what.)
>> >
>> > KD9KCK
>> >
>> > On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 2:07 AM Jerry Buxton via AMSAT-BB <
>> > amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>> >
>> > > Bill,
>> > >
>> > > You can download all of the data for any particular satellite with
>> > > FoxTelem, using the "fetch server data" menu item.
>> > > I would suggest setting up/switching to a separate FoxTelem data
>> > > directory for that so the info doesn't overwrite your own captured
>> data
>> > > and can be left alone to play with.
>> > >
>> > > Your analysis is of interest to engineering and many others I am sure,
>> > > once you have studied the data and come to some conclusions or
>> > > hypotheses you may want to consider presenting it in an AMSAT Journal
>> > > article.
>> > >
>> > > Jerry Buxton, N?JY
>> > >
>> > > On 7/25/2020 22:22, Bill Gaylord via AMSAT-BB wrote:
>> > > > Is it possible to get some sort of download for the Historical
>> > Telemetry
>> > > > downlinked by Fox-1A? It would be interesting to study its life in
>> > space.
>> > >
>> > > _______________________________________________
>> > > Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>> > Opinions
>> > > expressed
>> > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
>> of
>> > > AMSAT-NA.
>> > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>> > program!
>> > > Subscription settings:
>> https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>> > >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>> Opinions
>> > expressed
>> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>> > AMSAT-NA.
>> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>> program!
>> > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>> >
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>> Opinions expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>> AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>
>
>
> --
> Chris E. Thompson
> chrisethompson@?????.???
> g0kla@????.???
>
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Message: 9
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2020 21:24:05 -0400
From: "Mark L. Hammond" <marklhammond@?????.???>
To: Bill Gaylord <chibill110@?????.???>
Cc: Chris Thompson <g0kla@????.???>, AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Historical Data download for FOX-1A?
Message-ID:
<CAPRXzyqTO0GJmg8va-B72K0yZ6M-vRnmfkJCZafDpQpwZ5tTJg@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
Hi Bill, it?s aka AO-85 so pretty sure the Keps can still be gotten. Old or
new.
73,
Mark N8MH
On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 9:21 PM Bill Gaylord via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
> Thank you very much! Not at my computer at the moment but i will take a
> look in a bit.
>
> Btw is there a way for FoxTelem to be told what time it is to allow to
> process passes shortly after they occur? (I plan on trying to automate
> pulling data from SatNOGS for the still operating Foxes.)
>
>
>
> Also not totally related but any idea where i can look for old TLE for
> Fox-1A. I normally go to SpaceTrack to get thay sort of stuff but because
> Fox-1A doesnt exist there its not going to help much.
>
> KD9KCK
>
>
> On Sun, Jul 26, 2020, 7:37 PM Chris Thompson <g0kla@????.???> wrote:
>
> > Hi Bill,
> >
> > You can download all of the data for AO-85 from this link:
> > http://amsat.org/tlm/ao85/serverlogs.tar.gz That contains the raw data
> > in CSV format. For Fox-1A the conversions are defined in the back of the
> > manual for FoxTelem.
> >
> > As Jerry said, your best bet might be to use FoxTelem. You can save the
> > data as a CSV file from any graph. Even if it plots multiple channels.
> > That allows you to save converted data in human readable form and do
> > further analysis in another program.
> >
> > I'm more than happy to walk you through how to do this and help
> extracting
> > or converting the data. Let me know how I can help.
> >
> > 73
> > Chris
> >
> > On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 8:26 PM Burns Fisher via AMSAT-BB <
> > amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
> >
> >> What CSV files are you getting from FoxTelem. As I recall they all
> have a
> >> first line that has the name of the field. Or do you mean
> >> translation from downlinked units to standard units (like volts, ma,
> >> degrees, etc)? I'm not sure there is a doc, but there probably should
> be.
> >> Let us know what you need to know.
> >>
> >> Burns WB1FJ
> >>
> >> On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 4:38 PM Bill Gaylord via AMSAT-BB <
> >> amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Is there a document on how the CSV files are formatted? (I can't seem
> to
> >> > find any information on what columns are what.)
> >> >
> >> > KD9KCK
> >> >
> >> > On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 2:07 AM Jerry Buxton via AMSAT-BB <
> >> > amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Bill,
> >> > >
> >> > > You can download all of the data for any particular satellite with
> >> > > FoxTelem, using the "fetch server data" menu item.
> >> > > I would suggest setting up/switching to a separate FoxTelem data
> >> > > directory for that so the info doesn't overwrite your own captured
> >> data
> >> > > and can be left alone to play with.
> >> > >
> >> > > Your analysis is of interest to engineering and many others I am
> sure,
> >> > > once you have studied the data and come to some conclusions or
> >> > > hypotheses you may want to consider presenting it in an AMSAT
> Journal
> >> > > article.
> >> > >
> >> > > Jerry Buxton, N?JY
> >> > >
> >> > > On 7/25/2020 22:22, Bill Gaylord via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> >> > > > Is it possible to get some sort of download for the Historical
> >> > Telemetry
> >> > > > downlinked by Fox-1A? It would be interesting to study its life in
> >> > space.
> >> > >
> >> > > _______________________________________________
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> > g0kla@????.???
> >
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Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2020 20:34:32 -0500
From: Bill Gaylord <chibill110@?????.???>
To: "Mark L. Hammond" <marklhammond@?????.???>
Cc: Chris Thompson <g0kla@????.???>, AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Historical Data download for FOX-1A?
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I looked it up by Norad ID. From what i know its TLE are opennly
distrobuted by space tracked because it went up with some military stuff.
Same reason it was never on CelesTrack.
KD9KCK
On Sun, Jul 26, 2020, 8:24 PM Mark L. Hammond <marklhammond@?????.???>
wrote:
> Hi Bill, it?s aka AO-85 so pretty sure the Keps can still be gotten. Old
> or new.
>
> 73,
> Mark N8MH
>
> On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 9:21 PM Bill Gaylord via AMSAT-BB <
> amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>
>> Thank you very much! Not at my computer at the moment but i will take a
>> look in a bit.
>>
>> Btw is there a way for FoxTelem to be told what time it is to allow to
>> process passes shortly after they occur? (I plan on trying to automate
>> pulling data from SatNOGS for the still operating Foxes.)
>>
>>
>>
>> Also not totally related but any idea where i can look for old TLE for
>> Fox-1A. I normally go to SpaceTrack to get thay sort of stuff but because
>> Fox-1A doesnt exist there its not going to help much.
>>
>> KD9KCK
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 26, 2020, 7:37 PM Chris Thompson <g0kla@????.???> wrote:
>>
>> > Hi Bill,
>> >
>> > You can download all of the data for AO-85 from this link:
>> > http://amsat.org/tlm/ao85/serverlogs.tar.gz That contains the raw data
>> > in CSV format. For Fox-1A the conversions are defined in the back of
>> the
>> > manual for FoxTelem.
>> >
>> > As Jerry said, your best bet might be to use FoxTelem. You can save the
>> > data as a CSV file from any graph. Even if it plots multiple channels.
>> > That allows you to save converted data in human readable form and do
>> > further analysis in another program.
>> >
>> > I'm more than happy to walk you through how to do this and help
>> extracting
>> > or converting the data. Let me know how I can help.
>> >
>> > 73
>> > Chris
>> >
>> > On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 8:26 PM Burns Fisher via AMSAT-BB <
>> > amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>> >
>> >> What CSV files are you getting from FoxTelem. As I recall they all
>> have a
>> >> first line that has the name of the field. Or do you mean
>> >> translation from downlinked units to standard units (like volts, ma,
>> >> degrees, etc)? I'm not sure there is a doc, but there probably should
>> be.
>> >> Let us know what you need to know.
>> >>
>> >> Burns WB1FJ
>> >>
>> >> On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 4:38 PM Bill Gaylord via AMSAT-BB <
>> >> amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > Is there a document on how the CSV files are formatted? (I can't
>> seem to
>> >> > find any information on what columns are what.)
>> >> >
>> >> > KD9KCK
>> >> >
>> >> > On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 2:07 AM Jerry Buxton via AMSAT-BB <
>> >> > amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > > Bill,
>> >> > >
>> >> > > You can download all of the data for any particular satellite with
>> >> > > FoxTelem, using the "fetch server data" menu item.
>> >> > > I would suggest setting up/switching to a separate FoxTelem data
>> >> > > directory for that so the info doesn't overwrite your own captured
>> >> data
>> >> > > and can be left alone to play with.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Your analysis is of interest to engineering and many others I am
>> sure,
>> >> > > once you have studied the data and come to some conclusions or
>> >> > > hypotheses you may want to consider presenting it in an AMSAT
>> Journal
>> >> > > article.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Jerry Buxton, N?JY
>> >> > >
>> >> > > On 7/25/2020 22:22, Bill Gaylord via AMSAT-BB wrote:
>> >> > > > Is it possible to get some sort of download for the Historical
>> >> > Telemetry
>> >> > > > downlinked by Fox-1A? It would be interesting to study its life
>> in
>> >> > space.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > _______________________________________________
>> >> > > Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum
>> available
>> >> > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>> >> > Opinions
>> >> > > expressed
>> >> > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official
>> views
>> >> of
>> >> > > AMSAT-NA.
>> >> > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>> >> > program!
>> >> > > Subscription settings:
>> >> https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>> >> > >
>> >> > _______________________________________________
>> >> > Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum
>> available
>> >> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>> >> Opinions
>> >> > expressed
>> >> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official
>> views of
>> >> > AMSAT-NA.
>> >> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>> >> program!
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>> >> >
>> >> _______________________________________________
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>> >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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>> of
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>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Chris E. Thompson
>> > chrisethompson@?????.???
>> > g0kla@????.???
>> >
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>> Opinions expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>> AMSAT-NA.
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> Mark L. Hammond [N8MH]
> AMSAT Director and Command Station
>
>
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