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Today's Topics:
1. SSTV from ISS Aug 4-5 (Clint Bradford)
2. Reply to W5PFG's letter of 10 July 2020
(Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK))
3. Re: Reply to W5PFG's letter of 10 July 2020 (Greg)
4. Re: Reply to W5PFG's letter of 10 July 2020 (David Swanson)
5. Re: Reply to W5PFG's letter of 10 July 2020 (Michelle Thompson)
6. Secretly Hired Lawyers (Clint Bradford)
7. Re: Reply to W5PFG's letter of 10 July 2020 (Joseph Armbruster)
8. Searching AMSAT Archives Using Google 'Site:' Tool (JoAnne K9JKM)
9. Re: Reply to W5PFG's letter of 10 July 2020 (Greg)
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2020 09:36:02 -0700
From: Clint Bradford <clintbradford@???.???>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] SSTV from ISS Aug 4-5
Message-ID: <59C75C0D-C2AD-485B-8D6B-F49EF3EE5662@???.???>
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MAI-75 SSTV activity planned for Aug 4 and 5
The final crew schedule for the week of Aug 3-9 was released recently and it
showed a MAI-75 activity scheduled for Aug 4 and 5. This is soon after the
Space X Demo-2 undock so changes to that event could impact the schedule.
The current dates and times of the activity are as follows:
Aug 4 (12:25-18:10 UTC) is setup and Day 1 operations.
Aug 5 (11:15-18:45 UTC) is Day 2 operations and close out.
This is the Moscow Aviation Institute SSTV experiment that is activate for
orbital passes over Moscow, Russia. It has traditionally been PD-180 or
PD-120 and transmitting on 145.800 MHz.
-July 27th 2020 - ARISS Blog
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2020 16:44:08 +0000
From: "Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)" <amsat-bb@??????.???>
To: AMSAT <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Reply to W5PFG's letter of 10 July 2020
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Hi.
The following is the text of a letter sent on behalf of Michelle
Thompson W5NYV and me to AMSAT President Clayton Coleman W5PFG,
along with everyone who co-signed Clayton's letter of 10 July 2020.
Patrick Stoddard, WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/
Twitter: @?????? or http://twitter.com/WD9EWK
*********************************
Text of forwarded letter is below
*********************************
July 27, 2020
AMSAT Board Members
Clayton Coleman, President
Dear Sirs and Madam:
I am writing in my capacity as counsel to Michelle Thompson and Patrick
Stoddard regarding the letter to members entitled ?AMSAT Leadership
Explains 2018-2020 Legal Expenses? posted on July 10, 2020 (?Letter?).
Through the course of my representation of my clients, I know that
information included in this letter is patently false and defamatory
and has resulted in reputational harm to Ms. Thompson and Mr. Stoddard.
On behalf of my clients, I demand that appropriate corrective action be
taken to address these falsehoods and prevent further harm to their
reputations.
The most egregious falsehood, among several, is the statement that
AMSAT is ?under attack? by my clients. Ms. Thompson and Mr. Stoddard
have consistently worked to improve AMSAT ? and have done nothing to
attack or undermine the organization they support. It is true that my
clients have worked diligently to evaluate the mission, activities,
finances, and procedures of AMSAT. Specifically, they have taken steps
to increase the financial transparency of AMSAT, enforce the provisions
of its existing bylaws, and obtain access to corporate and financial
documents. They have done all of this work as volunteers, deeply
invested in the well-being and success of AMSAT as an organization.
While I understand that certain AMSAT officials may interpret my
clients? actions to be critical of their personal actions, it is simply
not true that AMSAT as an organization is ?under attack.? The broad
dissemination of a statement to the contrary is false, harms Ms.
Thompson?s and Mr. Stoddard?s ability to serve AMSAT and calls into
question their integrity.
As you know, Ms. Thompson and Mr. Stoddard were improperly denied
access to AMSAT?s corporate records. They had to retain my firm just to
be able to carry out their corporate responsibilities as Directors.
They now are questioning the propriety of the legal expenditures as
they have not been given any evidence that these expenses were ever
approved by board action, much less in advance of the engagement, as is
required by Article II, Section 1 of AMSAT?s bylaws. One of the
principal fiduciary responsibilities of all board members is to obey
the provisions of the organization?s governing documents. Rather than
?disrupt and possibly defame? or ?publicly attack the integrity and
honor? of AMSAT Officers and Directors, Ms. Thompson and Mr. Stoddard
have merely been trying to review whether the AMSAT board has met this
important fiduciary obligation.
You noted, ?[t]he only powers that Directors have is when the Board is
in session and Board members make their vote? ? and yet, we are not
aware of any Board meeting in which this Letter was discussed. The fact
that five of the current Directors have decided to sign this letter
without conferring as a Board is good evidence that Directors may
choose to exercise his or her individual oversight role in the absence
of a Board meeting.
In conclusion, my clients are doing their best to improve financial
transparency and good governance in AMSAT. We agree that ?a poisonous
atmosphere makes it impossible for good ideas to be heard? and my
clients both wish to create instead an ?atmosphere of collaboration and
common purpose.? They ran on a reform platform and were duly elected by
the members to carry out that mandate.
With this letter, Ms. Thompson and Mr. Stoddard formally request that
the Letter be retracted and removed from AMSAT?s public website.
Alternatively, the Letter should, in consultation with my clients, be
corrected to accurately reflect the reality of their interactions with
AMSAT and its Board. Given that the unfounded accusations against my
clients harm their reputation and question their integrity, we request
action be taken no later than ten (10) days after the receipt of this
demand.
We look forward to your prompt attention to this matter.
Sincerely,
Carolyn A. Klamp, Counsel
cc: Dr. Tom Clark
Keith Baker,
Jerry Buxton,
Dr. Mark Hammond,
Paul Stoetzer,
Martha Saragovitz,
Robert Bankston,
Drew Glasbrenner,
Bruce Paige
Michelle Thompson
Patrick Stoddard
------------------------------
Message: 3
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2020 13:01:58 -0400
From: Greg <almetco@???????.???>
To: Amsat - BBs <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Reply to W5PFG's letter of 10 July 2020
Message-ID: <D495ADC7-A128-4BD9-A27F-E3974D012028@???????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
What ever happened to the good old days where if you didn't like the place
you were an unpaid volunteer, you quit, walked away and didn?t call your
attorney?
I have no respect in the fact that an attorney is even involved in volunteer
position.
Greg
N3MVF
On Jul 27, 2020, at 12:44 PM, Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK) via AMSAT-BB
<amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
Hi.
The following is the text of a letter sent on behalf of Michelle
Thompson W5NYV and me to AMSAT President Clayton Coleman W5PFG,
along with everyone who co-signed Clayton's letter of 10 July 2020.
Patrick Stoddard, WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/
Twitter: @?????? or http://twitter.com/WD9EWK
*********************************
Text of forwarded letter is below
*********************************
July 27, 2020
AMSAT Board Members
Clayton Coleman, President
Dear Sirs and Madam:
I am writing in my capacity as counsel to Michelle Thompson and Patrick
Stoddard regarding the letter to members entitled ?AMSAT Leadership
Explains 2018-2020 Legal Expenses? posted on July 10, 2020 (?Letter?).
Through the course of my representation of my clients, I know that
information included in this letter is patently false and defamatory
and has resulted in reputational harm to Ms. Thompson and Mr. Stoddard.
On behalf of my clients, I demand that appropriate corrective action be
taken to address these falsehoods and prevent further harm to their
reputations.
The most egregious falsehood, among several, is the statement that
AMSAT is ?under attack? by my clients. Ms. Thompson and Mr. Stoddard
have consistently worked to improve AMSAT ? and have done nothing to
attack or undermine the organization they support. It is true that my
clients have worked diligently to evaluate the mission, activities,
finances, and procedures of AMSAT. Specifically, they have taken steps
to increase the financial transparency of AMSAT, enforce the provisions
of its existing bylaws, and obtain access to corporate and financial
documents. They have done all of this work as volunteers, deeply
invested in the well-being and success of AMSAT as an organization.
While I understand that certain AMSAT officials may interpret my
clients? actions to be critical of their personal actions, it is simply
not true that AMSAT as an organization is ?under attack.? The broad
dissemination of a statement to the contrary is false, harms Ms.
Thompson?s and Mr. Stoddard?s ability to serve AMSAT and calls into
question their integrity.
As you know, Ms. Thompson and Mr. Stoddard were improperly denied
access to AMSAT?s corporate records. They had to retain my firm just to
be able to carry out their corporate responsibilities as Directors.
They now are questioning the propriety of the legal expenditures as
they have not been given any evidence that these expenses were ever
approved by board action, much less in advance of the engagement, as is
required by Article II, Section 1 of AMSAT?s bylaws. One of the
principal fiduciary responsibilities of all board members is to obey
the provisions of the organization?s governing documents. Rather than
?disrupt and possibly defame? or ?publicly attack the integrity and
honor? of AMSAT Officers and Directors, Ms. Thompson and Mr. Stoddard
have merely been trying to review whether the AMSAT board has met this
important fiduciary obligation.
You noted, ?[t]he only powers that Directors have is when the Board is
in session and Board members make their vote? ? and yet, we are not
aware of any Board meeting in which this Letter was discussed. The fact
that five of the current Directors have decided to sign this letter
without conferring as a Board is good evidence that Directors may
choose to exercise his or her individual oversight role in the absence
of a Board meeting.
In conclusion, my clients are doing their best to improve financial
transparency and good governance in AMSAT. We agree that ?a poisonous
atmosphere makes it impossible for good ideas to be heard? and my
clients both wish to create instead an ?atmosphere of collaboration and
common purpose.? They ran on a reform platform and were duly elected by
the members to carry out that mandate.
With this letter, Ms. Thompson and Mr. Stoddard formally request that
the Letter be retracted and removed from AMSAT?s public website.
Alternatively, the Letter should, in consultation with my clients, be
corrected to accurately reflect the reality of their interactions with
AMSAT and its Board. Given that the unfounded accusations against my
clients harm their reputation and question their integrity, we request
action be taken no later than ten (10) days after the receipt of this
demand.
We look forward to your prompt attention to this matter.
Sincerely,
Carolyn A. Klamp, Counsel
cc: Dr. Tom Clark
Keith Baker,
Jerry Buxton,
Dr. Mark Hammond,
Paul Stoetzer,
Martha Saragovitz,
Robert Bankston,
Drew Glasbrenner,
Bruce Paige
Michelle Thompson
Patrick Stoddard
_______________________________________________
Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
------------------------------
Message: 4
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2020 12:31:02 -0500
From: David Swanson <dave@?????????????.???>
Cc: AMSAT <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Reply to W5PFG's letter of 10 July 2020
Message-ID:
<CANq+eyVd2HyToM0PKd+V=PM35KMqOKPczE1zKQD0ECMQt5urGw@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
Thank you so much for this. I needed a good laugh today. I hope you didn't
pay more than a few hundred bucks to have this 'demand' (still laughing at
that) letter written.
For those on the sidelines not used to dealing with lawyers often, this is
why an organization like AMSAT spends $10k+ a year in legal fees. Quality
work is worth it.
-Dave, KG5CCI
On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 11:46 AM Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK) via
AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
> Hi.
>
> The following is the text of a letter sent on behalf of Michelle
> Thompson W5NYV and me to AMSAT President Clayton Coleman W5PFG,
> along with everyone who co-signed Clayton's letter of 10 July 2020.
>
>
>
>
>
> Patrick Stoddard, WD9EWK/VA7EWK
> http://www.wd9ewk.net/
> Twitter: @?????? or http://twitter.com/WD9EWK
>
>
>
> *********************************
> Text of forwarded letter is below
> *********************************
>
>
>
>
> July 27, 2020
>
> AMSAT Board Members
> Clayton Coleman, President
>
>
> Dear Sirs and Madam:
>
> I am writing in my capacity as counsel to Michelle Thompson and Patrick
> Stoddard regarding the letter to members entitled ?AMSAT Leadership
> Explains 2018-2020 Legal Expenses? posted on July 10, 2020 (?Letter?).
> Through the course of my representation of my clients, I know that
> information included in this letter is patently false and defamatory
> and has resulted in reputational harm to Ms. Thompson and Mr. Stoddard.
> On behalf of my clients, I demand that appropriate corrective action be
> taken to address these falsehoods and prevent further harm to their
> reputations.
>
> The most egregious falsehood, among several, is the statement that
> AMSAT is ?under attack? by my clients. Ms. Thompson and Mr. Stoddard
> have consistently worked to improve AMSAT ? and have done nothing to
> attack or undermine the organization they support. It is true that my
> clients have worked diligently to evaluate the mission, activities,
> finances, and procedures of AMSAT. Specifically, they have taken steps
> to increase the financial transparency of AMSAT, enforce the provisions
> of its existing bylaws, and obtain access to corporate and financial
> documents. They have done all of this work as volunteers, deeply
> invested in the well-being and success of AMSAT as an organization.
> While I understand that certain AMSAT officials may interpret my
> clients? actions to be critical of their personal actions, it is simply
> not true that AMSAT as an organization is ?under attack.? The broad
> dissemination of a statement to the contrary is false, harms Ms.
> Thompson?s and Mr. Stoddard?s ability to serve AMSAT and calls into
> question their integrity.
>
> As you know, Ms. Thompson and Mr. Stoddard were improperly denied
> access to AMSAT?s corporate records. They had to retain my firm just to
> be able to carry out their corporate responsibilities as Directors.
> They now are questioning the propriety of the legal expenditures as
> they have not been given any evidence that these expenses were ever
> approved by board action, much less in advance of the engagement, as is
> required by Article II, Section 1 of AMSAT?s bylaws. One of the
> principal fiduciary responsibilities of all board members is to obey
> the provisions of the organization?s governing documents. Rather than
> ?disrupt and possibly defame? or ?publicly attack the integrity and
> honor? of AMSAT Officers and Directors, Ms. Thompson and Mr. Stoddard
> have merely been trying to review whether the AMSAT board has met this
> important fiduciary obligation.
>
> You noted, ?[t]he only powers that Directors have is when the Board is
> in session and Board members make their vote? ? and yet, we are not
> aware of any Board meeting in which this Letter was discussed. The fact
> that five of the current Directors have decided to sign this letter
> without conferring as a Board is good evidence that Directors may
> choose to exercise his or her individual oversight role in the absence
> of a Board meeting.
>
> In conclusion, my clients are doing their best to improve financial
> transparency and good governance in AMSAT. We agree that ?a poisonous
> atmosphere makes it impossible for good ideas to be heard? and my
> clients both wish to create instead an ?atmosphere of collaboration and
> common purpose.? They ran on a reform platform and were duly elected by
> the members to carry out that mandate.
>
> With this letter, Ms. Thompson and Mr. Stoddard formally request that
> the Letter be retracted and removed from AMSAT?s public website.
> Alternatively, the Letter should, in consultation with my clients, be
> corrected to accurately reflect the reality of their interactions with
> AMSAT and its Board. Given that the unfounded accusations against my
> clients harm their reputation and question their integrity, we request
> action be taken no later than ten (10) days after the receipt of this
> demand.
>
> We look forward to your prompt attention to this matter.
>
> Sincerely,
> Carolyn A. Klamp, Counsel
>
>
> cc: Dr. Tom Clark
> Keith Baker,
> Jerry Buxton,
> Dr. Mark Hammond,
> Paul Stoetzer,
> Martha Saragovitz,
> Robert Bankston,
> Drew Glasbrenner,
> Bruce Paige
> Michelle Thompson
> Patrick Stoddard
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
------------------------------
Message: 5
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2020 10:31:35 -0700
From: Michelle Thompson <mountain.michelle@?????.???>
To: Greg <almetco@???????.???>
Cc: Amsat - BBs <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Reply to W5PFG's letter of 10 July 2020
Message-ID:
<CACvjz2WfxOFcfGFWuX2P+kwrkf-uKo3w3xTxbL_DGG=5OQQXcA@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
Imagine how we felt when we found out about the secretly hired lawyers. It
was the last thing we expected to find.
Patrick and I really want all of our membership money to not go towards
secretly hired lawyers used to target members that "annoy" the board. We
really didn't like getting ambushed by lawyers on phone calls with the
President of the organization. That sort of thing is unfair and not right.
We called in expert legal help as a last resort, to deal with being
targeted by lawyers paid for by our own membership dues.
If we simply walked away after discovering this, then it would still be
going on, and would happen again to others.
I am very sorry it's unpleasant. The "official explanation" is not official
and it's not an explanation. It's untrue and damaging.
It needs to be retracted.
Directors and officers need to change the way they do things in terms of
financial accountability and transparency.
This will lead, with 100% certainty, to immediate visible benefits.
That is what we are working for.
-Michelle W5NYV
On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 10:21 AM Greg via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
wrote:
> What ever happened to the good old days where if you didn't like the place
> you were an unpaid volunteer, you quit, walked away and didn?t call your
> attorney?
>
> I have no respect in the fact that an attorney is even involved in
> volunteer position.
>
> Greg
> N3MVF
>
>
>
> On Jul 27, 2020, at 12:44 PM, Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK) via
> AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>
> Hi.
>
> The following is the text of a letter sent on behalf of Michelle
> Thompson W5NYV and me to AMSAT President Clayton Coleman W5PFG,
> along with everyone who co-signed Clayton's letter of 10 July 2020.
>
>
>
>
>
> Patrick Stoddard, WD9EWK/VA7EWK
> http://www.wd9ewk.net/
> Twitter: @?????? or http://twitter.com/WD9EWK
>
>
>
> *********************************
> Text of forwarded letter is below
> *********************************
>
>
>
>
> July 27, 2020
>
> AMSAT Board Members
> Clayton Coleman, President
>
>
> Dear Sirs and Madam:
>
> I am writing in my capacity as counsel to Michelle Thompson and Patrick
> Stoddard regarding the letter to members entitled ?AMSAT Leadership
> Explains 2018-2020 Legal Expenses? posted on July 10, 2020 (?Letter?).
> Through the course of my representation of my clients, I know that
> information included in this letter is patently false and defamatory
> and has resulted in reputational harm to Ms. Thompson and Mr. Stoddard.
> On behalf of my clients, I demand that appropriate corrective action be
> taken to address these falsehoods and prevent further harm to their
> reputations.
>
> The most egregious falsehood, among several, is the statement that
> AMSAT is ?under attack? by my clients. Ms. Thompson and Mr. Stoddard
> have consistently worked to improve AMSAT ? and have done nothing to
> attack or undermine the organization they support. It is true that my
> clients have worked diligently to evaluate the mission, activities,
> finances, and procedures of AMSAT. Specifically, they have taken steps
> to increase the financial transparency of AMSAT, enforce the provisions
> of its existing bylaws, and obtain access to corporate and financial
> documents. They have done all of this work as volunteers, deeply
> invested in the well-being and success of AMSAT as an organization.
> While I understand that certain AMSAT officials may interpret my
> clients? actions to be critical of their personal actions, it is simply
> not true that AMSAT as an organization is ?under attack.? The broad
> dissemination of a statement to the contrary is false, harms Ms.
> Thompson?s and Mr. Stoddard?s ability to serve AMSAT and calls into
> question their integrity.
>
> As you know, Ms. Thompson and Mr. Stoddard were improperly denied
> access to AMSAT?s corporate records. They had to retain my firm just to
> be able to carry out their corporate responsibilities as Directors.
> They now are questioning the propriety of the legal expenditures as
> they have not been given any evidence that these expenses were ever
> approved by board action, much less in advance of the engagement, as is
> required by Article II, Section 1 of AMSAT?s bylaws. One of the
> principal fiduciary responsibilities of all board members is to obey
> the provisions of the organization?s governing documents. Rather than
> ?disrupt and possibly defame? or ?publicly attack the integrity and
> honor? of AMSAT Officers and Directors, Ms. Thompson and Mr. Stoddard
> have merely been trying to review whether the AMSAT board has met this
> important fiduciary obligation.
>
> You noted, ?[t]he only powers that Directors have is when the Board is
> in session and Board members make their vote? ? and yet, we are not
> aware of any Board meeting in which this Letter was discussed. The fact
> that five of the current Directors have decided to sign this letter
> without conferring as a Board is good evidence that Directors may
> choose to exercise his or her individual oversight role in the absence
> of a Board meeting.
>
> In conclusion, my clients are doing their best to improve financial
> transparency and good governance in AMSAT. We agree that ?a poisonous
> atmosphere makes it impossible for good ideas to be heard? and my
> clients both wish to create instead an ?atmosphere of collaboration and
> common purpose.? They ran on a reform platform and were duly elected by
> the members to carry out that mandate.
>
> With this letter, Ms. Thompson and Mr. Stoddard formally request that
> the Letter be retracted and removed from AMSAT?s public website.
> Alternatively, the Letter should, in consultation with my clients, be
> corrected to accurately reflect the reality of their interactions with
> AMSAT and its Board. Given that the unfounded accusations against my
> clients harm their reputation and question their integrity, we request
> action be taken no later than ten (10) days after the receipt of this
> demand.
>
> We look forward to your prompt attention to this matter.
>
> Sincerely,
> Carolyn A. Klamp, Counsel
>
>
> cc: Dr. Tom Clark
> Keith Baker,
> Jerry Buxton,
> Dr. Mark Hammond,
> Paul Stoetzer,
> Martha Saragovitz,
> Robert Bankston,
> Drew Glasbrenner,
> Bruce Paige
> Michelle Thompson
> Patrick Stoddard
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
------------------------------
Message: 6
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2020 11:32:55 -0700
From: Clint Bradford <clintbradford@???.???>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Secretly Hired Lawyers
Message-ID: <A6D6910C-155A-4DE6-BD1E-386C04EA7DAF@???.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>> ? secretly hired lawyers. It was the last thing we expected to find.
Did you expect to threaten there welfare of a corporation and NOT have them
responsibly respond?
Oh, and b the way, litigants many times don?t tell the ?opposition? their
strategy when seeking counsel.
I hear very few intelligent arguments from these ?truth seekers.?
And the noise of their NOT responding to allegation of past mis-deeds
is deafening.
Clint Bradford K6LCA
AMSAT-NA Ambassador
909-999-SATS
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2020 14:42:55 -0400
From: Joseph Armbruster <josepharmbruster@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@??????.???
Cc: AMSAT <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Reply to W5PFG's letter of 10 July 2020
Message-ID:
<CADkz4c8oGedGTjntGxzj9nfGGLVuq4c4kZN9id3+mbkpQjWmUw@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
Patrick,
I am an AMSAT Life Member and i'm just going to ask you, can you
please step down from being an AMSAT director? It's obviously not
working out well for you (and others). I mean, we can all see why
AMSAT is blowing money on attorneys now.... This is a concrete reason
to NOT to vote for anyone that you or Michelle Thompson recommend.
Spamming the BB with a letter like this, is highly unprofessional and
does not bring you much credibility in my book. These are the kinds
of matters that professionals resolve privately. By sending this to
the BB, I can only assume that all you and Michelle want attention.
Well, congratulations for possibly leading to more AMSAT funds being
blown on useless legal nonsense, instead of actual satellite work.
This is outstanding, officer / director work for the organization and
I personally do NOT thank you for it.
Honestly though, this is just getting stupid. Just because people are
voted onto a board or into a position of office, doesn't mean that the
people voted in are any good for the job or working with the
organization. Or... even know how to work well with others. In any
election, there are masses of uninformed voters and/or individuals
that run under false-pretenses. Just look at the last Florida
gubernatorial election and where Andrew Gillum ended up (naked, asleep
in his own vomit, with an escort overdosed on meth)... Gooooooooo,
democracy.
The directors that are putting AMSAT through this should all step
down, immediately. Just because you were duly elected, doesn't mean
you are doing a good job or representing AMSAT well (All attempts at
virtuosity aside). Do us all a favor, step down from your positions
please. This is the best service you can offer AMSAT.
Thank You,
Joseph Armbruster
KJ4JIO
On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 1:02 PM Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK) via
AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>
> Hi.
>
> The following is the text of a letter sent on behalf of Michelle
> Thompson W5NYV and me to AMSAT President Clayton Coleman W5PFG,
> along with everyone who co-signed Clayton's letter of 10 July 2020.
>
>
>
>
>
> Patrick Stoddard, WD9EWK/VA7EWK
> http://www.wd9ewk.net/
> Twitter: @?????? or http://twitter.com/WD9EWK
>
>
>
> *********************************
> Text of forwarded letter is below
> *********************************
>
>
>
>
> July 27, 2020
>
> AMSAT Board Members
> Clayton Coleman, President
>
>
> Dear Sirs and Madam:
>
> I am writing in my capacity as counsel to Michelle Thompson and Patrick
> Stoddard regarding the letter to members entitled ?AMSAT Leadership
> Explains 2018-2020 Legal Expenses? posted on July 10, 2020 (?Letter?).
> Through the course of my representation of my clients, I know that
> information included in this letter is patently false and defamatory
> and has resulted in reputational harm to Ms. Thompson and Mr. Stoddard.
> On behalf of my clients, I demand that appropriate corrective action be
> taken to address these falsehoods and prevent further harm to their
> reputations.
>
> The most egregious falsehood, among several, is the statement that
> AMSAT is ?under attack? by my clients. Ms. Thompson and Mr. Stoddard
> have consistently worked to improve AMSAT ? and have done nothing to
> attack or undermine the organization they support. It is true that my
> clients have worked diligently to evaluate the mission, activities,
> finances, and procedures of AMSAT. Specifically, they have taken steps
> to increase the financial transparency of AMSAT, enforce the provisions
> of its existing bylaws, and obtain access to corporate and financial
> documents. They have done all of this work as volunteers, deeply
> invested in the well-being and success of AMSAT as an organization.
> While I understand that certain AMSAT officials may interpret my
> clients? actions to be critical of their personal actions, it is simply
> not true that AMSAT as an organization is ?under attack.? The broad
> dissemination of a statement to the contrary is false, harms Ms.
> Thompson?s and Mr. Stoddard?s ability to serve AMSAT and calls into
> question their integrity.
>
> As you know, Ms. Thompson and Mr. Stoddard were improperly denied
> access to AMSAT?s corporate records. They had to retain my firm just to
> be able to carry out their corporate responsibilities as Directors.
> They now are questioning the propriety of the legal expenditures as
> they have not been given any evidence that these expenses were ever
> approved by board action, much less in advance of the engagement, as is
> required by Article II, Section 1 of AMSAT?s bylaws. One of the
> principal fiduciary responsibilities of all board members is to obey
> the provisions of the organization?s governing documents. Rather than
> ?disrupt and possibly defame? or ?publicly attack the integrity and
> honor? of AMSAT Officers and Directors, Ms. Thompson and Mr. Stoddard
> have merely been trying to review whether the AMSAT board has met this
> important fiduciary obligation.
>
> You noted, ?[t]he only powers that Directors have is when the Board is
> in session and Board members make their vote? ? and yet, we are not
> aware of any Board meeting in which this Letter was discussed. The fact
> that five of the current Directors have decided to sign this letter
> without conferring as a Board is good evidence that Directors may
> choose to exercise his or her individual oversight role in the absence
> of a Board meeting.
>
> In conclusion, my clients are doing their best to improve financial
> transparency and good governance in AMSAT. We agree that ?a poisonous
> atmosphere makes it impossible for good ideas to be heard? and my
> clients both wish to create instead an ?atmosphere of collaboration and
> common purpose.? They ran on a reform platform and were duly elected by
> the members to carry out that mandate.
>
> With this letter, Ms. Thompson and Mr. Stoddard formally request that
> the Letter be retracted and removed from AMSAT?s public website.
> Alternatively, the Letter should, in consultation with my clients, be
> corrected to accurately reflect the reality of their interactions with
> AMSAT and its Board. Given that the unfounded accusations against my
> clients harm their reputation and question their integrity, we request
> action be taken no later than ten (10) days after the receipt of this
> demand.
>
> We look forward to your prompt attention to this matter.
>
> Sincerely,
> Carolyn A. Klamp, Counsel
>
>
> cc: Dr. Tom Clark
> Keith Baker,
> Jerry Buxton,
> Dr. Mark Hammond,
> Paul Stoetzer,
> Martha Saragovitz,
> Robert Bankston,
> Drew Glasbrenner,
> Bruce Paige
> Michelle Thompson
> Patrick Stoddard
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2020 13:43:11 -0500
From: JoAnne K9JKM <k9jkm@???????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] Searching AMSAT Archives Using Google 'Site:' Tool
Message-ID: <5F1F203F.9070701@???????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
It is possible to search the Amsat-BB archives by using the "site:"
command in Google.
For example, to find all mentions of the word "Diplexer" in amsat-BB,
type this line into Google:
Diplexer site:http://amsat.org/pipermail/amsat-bb
To restrict the search to a particular year, type:
Diplexer site:http://amsat.org/pipermail/amsat-bb/2014
The 'site' command is also applicable to the AMSAT News Service archives at:
https://amsat.org/pipermail/ans/
(via Dan Schultz N8FGV, posted in ANS-267 bulletins, September 24, 2017)
--
73 de JoAnne K9JKM
k9jkm@?????.???
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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2020 14:52:00 -0400
From: Greg <almetco@???????.???>
To: Joseph Armbruster <josepharmbruster@?????.???>
Cc: AMSAT <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Reply to W5PFG's letter of 10 July 2020
Message-ID: <257E2184-0528-427F-91BA-32EF568BEE13@???????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Joseph,
Agree?.
The optics of their defense saying they are making AMSAT better just isn?t
there. Why? Its a volunteer organization, funded by grants, dues and
volunteer labor. It is not the C-suite or BOD of an S and P 100. Firing
lawyer letters back and forth is an ego contest in their best interests, not
the organizations. That includes both sides.
Greg
N3MVF
On Jul 27, 2020, at 2:42 PM, Joseph Armbruster via AMSAT-BB
<amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
Patrick,
I am an AMSAT Life Member and i'm just going to ask you, can you
please step down from being an AMSAT director? It's obviously not
working out well for you (and others). I mean, we can all see why
AMSAT is blowing money on attorneys now.... This is a concrete reason
to NOT to vote for anyone that you or Michelle Thompson recommend.
Spamming the BB with a letter like this, is highly unprofessional and
does not bring you much credibility in my book. These are the kinds
of matters that professionals resolve privately. By sending this to
the BB, I can only assume that all you and Michelle want attention.
Well, congratulations for possibly leading to more AMSAT funds being
blown on useless legal nonsense, instead of actual satellite work.
This is outstanding, officer / director work for the organization and
I personally do NOT thank you for it.
Honestly though, this is just getting stupid. Just because people are
voted onto a board or into a position of office, doesn't mean that the
people voted in are any good for the job or working with the
organization. Or... even know how to work well with others. In any
election, there are masses of uninformed voters and/or individuals
that run under false-pretenses. Just look at the last Florida
gubernatorial election and where Andrew Gillum ended up (naked, asleep
in his own vomit, with an escort overdosed on meth)... Gooooooooo,
democracy.
The directors that are putting AMSAT through this should all step
down, immediately. Just because you were duly elected, doesn't mean
you are doing a good job or representing AMSAT well (All attempts at
virtuosity aside). Do us all a favor, step down from your positions
please. This is the best service you can offer AMSAT.
Thank You,
Joseph Armbruster
KJ4JIO
On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 1:02 PM Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK) via
AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>
> Hi.
>
> The following is the text of a letter sent on behalf of Michelle
> Thompson W5NYV and me to AMSAT President Clayton Coleman W5PFG,
> along with everyone who co-signed Clayton's letter of 10 July 2020.
>
>
>
>
>
> Patrick Stoddard, WD9EWK/VA7EWK
> http://www.wd9ewk.net/
> Twitter: @?????? or http://twitter.com/WD9EWK
>
>
>
> *********************************
> Text of forwarded letter is below
> *********************************
>
>
>
>
> July 27, 2020
>
> AMSAT Board Members
> Clayton Coleman, President
>
>
> Dear Sirs and Madam:
>
> I am writing in my capacity as counsel to Michelle Thompson and Patrick
> Stoddard regarding the letter to members entitled ?AMSAT Leadership
> Explains 2018-2020 Legal Expenses? posted on July 10, 2020 (?Letter?).
> Through the course of my representation of my clients, I know that
> information included in this letter is patently false and defamatory
> and has resulted in reputational harm to Ms. Thompson and Mr. Stoddard.
> On behalf of my clients, I demand that appropriate corrective action be
> taken to address these falsehoods and prevent further harm to their
> reputations.
>
> The most egregious falsehood, among several, is the statement that
> AMSAT is ?under attack? by my clients. Ms. Thompson and Mr. Stoddard
> have consistently worked to improve AMSAT ? and have done nothing to
> attack or undermine the organization they support. It is true that my
> clients have worked diligently to evaluate the mission, activities,
> finances, and procedures of AMSAT. Specifically, they have taken steps
> to increase the financial transparency of AMSAT, enforce the provisions
> of its existing bylaws, and obtain access to corporate and financial
> documents. They have done all of this work as volunteers, deeply
> invested in the well-being and success of AMSAT as an organization.
> While I understand that certain AMSAT officials may interpret my
> clients? actions to be critical of their personal actions, it is simply
> not true that AMSAT as an organization is ?under attack.? The broad
> dissemination of a statement to the contrary is false, harms Ms.
> Thompson?s and Mr. Stoddard?s ability to serve AMSAT and calls into
> question their integrity.
>
> As you know, Ms. Thompson and Mr. Stoddard were improperly denied
> access to AMSAT?s corporate records. They had to retain my firm just to
> be able to carry out their corporate responsibilities as Directors.
> They now are questioning the propriety of the legal expenditures as
> they have not been given any evidence that these expenses were ever
> approved by board action, much less in advance of the engagement, as is
> required by Article II, Section 1 of AMSAT?s bylaws. One of the
> principal fiduciary responsibilities of all board members is to obey
> the provisions of the organization?s governing documents. Rather than
> ?disrupt and possibly defame? or ?publicly attack the integrity and
> honor? of AMSAT Officers and Directors, Ms. Thompson and Mr. Stoddard
> have merely been trying to review whether the AMSAT board has met this
> important fiduciary obligation.
>
> You noted, ?[t]he only powers that Directors have is when the Board is
> in session and Board members make their vote? ? and yet, we are not
> aware of any Board meeting in which this Letter was discussed. The fact
> that five of the current Directors have decided to sign this letter
> without conferring as a Board is good evidence that Directors may
> choose to exercise his or her individual oversight role in the absence
> of a Board meeting.
>
> In conclusion, my clients are doing their best to improve financial
> transparency and good governance in AMSAT. We agree that ?a poisonous
> atmosphere makes it impossible for good ideas to be heard? and my
> clients both wish to create instead an ?atmosphere of collaboration and
> common purpose.? They ran on a reform platform and were duly elected by
> the members to carry out that mandate.
>
> With this letter, Ms. Thompson and Mr. Stoddard formally request that
> the Letter be retracted and removed from AMSAT?s public website.
> Alternatively, the Letter should, in consultation with my clients, be
> corrected to accurately reflect the reality of their interactions with
> AMSAT and its Board. Given that the unfounded accusations against my
> clients harm their reputation and question their integrity, we request
> action be taken no later than ten (10) days after the receipt of this
> demand.
>
> We look forward to your prompt attention to this matter.
>
> Sincerely,
> Carolyn A. Klamp, Counsel
>
>
> cc: Dr. Tom Clark
> Keith Baker,
> Jerry Buxton,
> Dr. Mark Hammond,
> Paul Stoetzer,
> Martha Saragovitz,
> Robert Bankston,
> Drew Glasbrenner,
> Bruce Paige
> Michelle Thompson
> Patrick Stoddard
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
_______________________________________________
Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
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