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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Signal to Noise ratio (Zach Metzinger)
   2. Re: Turning on a light (Jeff Davis)
   3. beepbeepbeepboopboopboopbeepbeepbeep (Roy Dean)
   4. Re: beepbeepbeepboopboopboopbeepbeepbeep (Roy Dean)
   5. Re: beepbeepbeepboopboopboopbeepbeepbeep (Glenn Miller AA5PK)
   6. Amsat.org vs Launch.amsat.org? (Bill Gaylord)
   7. Sats and SOTA 7/29 (Michael N4DCW)
   8. AO-92 mode L/v at 0241utc for 24 hrs 29 July 2020 (Mark Hammond)
   9. geo sat (mikflathead@???.????
  10. Re: Amsat.org vs Launch.amsat.org? (Joseph B. Fitzgerald)
  11. OSCAR Satellite QSO Party starts August 1 (M5AKA)
  12. Next BoD Cycle - Bruninga (WB4APR) & Bauer (KA3HDO)
      (Robert MacHale)
  13. Re: Amsat.org vs Launch.amsat.org? (H. Stephen Nipper)


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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2020 09:57:28 -0600
From: Zach Metzinger <zmetzing@?????.???>
To: n1jez@?????????????????.???? Mike Seguin via AMSAT-BB
<amsat-bb@?????.???>,	amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Signal to Noise ratio
Message-ID: <18D8CFE8-7E17-4CCF-A6A1-03719A444666@?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

On July 28, 2020 7:45:50 AM MDT, Mike Seguin via AMSAT-BB
<amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>And here's a short text from Ian, GM3SEK about adjusting preamp gain.
>No
>test equipment needed. Too much gain can be a bad thing...

I completely agree. Too much gain can crush the front end mixer of your
receiver.

One also has to make sure that out of band QRM isn't the cause. Case in
point: we live about 1 mile from a water tower which has an impressive array
of cellular antennas on its perimeter. I've measured approximately -50 dBm,
preamp bypassed and at the end of the coax in the shack, at 700-800 MHz as
received by the 70cm passive Lindenblad. Obviously, some low-loss filtering
before the LNA was in order, and I'm even contemplating a SAW filter on the
output to really clean it up. I've got plenty of spare gain.

Also, don't forget the ATT button on your radio! If you click on the
attenuator and the noise floor drops significantly but the signal drops down
much less, you're overloading the front end of your rig.

--- Zach
N0ZGO


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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2020 11:23:07 -0400
From: Jeff Davis <jeffrey.davis@???.???>
To: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Turning on a light
Message-ID: <6904A5AD-F52E-4965-B921-E8D13E53A2CA@???.???>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset=utf-8

However technical this facet of the hobby may be, it?s still ham radio and
still just a hobby. Organizations like ARRL (and AMSAT) retain legal counsel
for all manner of reasons. Don Miller, W9WNV famously sued the League back
in the 60?s. I?m certain that caused them to lawyer-up and no doubt ARRL
members paid for that legal legwork.

Still, it seems mighty curious that the new board members have hired legal
counsel on at least two occasions, and I assume, out of their own pockets
and/or ORI. That?s the part that's unusual. How many hams do you know who
would take money out of their own personal savings to try and gain more
control from their unpaid, volunteer positions in a hobby unless there was
something else to it?

For whatever reason, Perens/Michelle/Patrick/ORI have placed an unusually
high value on seizing control of the AMSAT BoD. Whether this is with good or
nefarious reason is something members will have to decide via their wallets
and their ballots because I don?t think the actual agenda behind all this
will be truthfully revealed despite all the ?Open? and ?transparency? BS
that's been flung onto this list.

Someday It might make for a decent movie though 'ham radio' doesn?t play a
central role in this drama.

Jeff, KE9V
AMSAT Life



> On Jul 27, 2020, at 8:10 PM, Michael Tondee via AMSAT-BB
<amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>
> The AMSAT membership has obviously long been in the dark about how the
organization operates and what's involved in the finances and various
decision making processes. Michelle and Patrick are trying to turn on a
light and get some clarity and transparency. Despite the rancor it's caused
and the fact that it's painful, it's becoming more and more undeniable how
necessary it was and I fail to see how it's a bad thing. I'd love to go back
to discussing satellites too but sometimes you have to go through the bad to
get to the good. That's life.


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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2020 12:12:51 -0400
From: Roy Dean <royldean@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] beepbeepbeepboopboopboopbeepbeepbeep
Message-ID:
<CADGPg2syAVR3jzFwQ=LTiv_vRpfz8=PH5Kr7pB8U9R24kiM-4g@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

Anybody else hear this on the 16:00z pass of AO-92 that is finishing up
right now?  Or is it my SDR? (didn't hear it on the AO-91 pass immediate
before this AO-92 pass).

--Roy
K3RLD


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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2020 12:19:47 -0400
From: Roy Dean <royldean@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] beepbeepbeepboopboopboopbeepbeepbeep
Message-ID:
<CADGPg2vFbDu0N2hBuGtqv4=2Szh_sDESifp20nfvnWmyGjVcSQ@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

Ok, answered my own question:

https://network.satnogs.org/observations/2615366/

Not just me.


--Roy

K3RLD



> Anybody else hear this on the 16:00z pass of AO-92 that is finishing up
> right now?  Or is it my SDR? (didn't hear it on the AO-91 pass immediate
> before this AO-92 pass).
>
> --Roy
> K3RLD
>
>


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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2020 12:18:26 -0500
From: "Glenn Miller AA5PK" <aa5pk@??????????.???>
To: "Roy Dean" <royldean@?????.???>,	<amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] beepbeepbeepboopboopboopbeepbeepbeep
Message-ID: <81F7A6B4A7644C01A36EFA291ED7EB8C@??????????????>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
reply-type=original

Sounds to me like radar.

Glenn
AA5PK

-----Original Message-----
From: Roy Dean via AMSAT-BB
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2020 11:19 AM
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] beepbeepbeepboopboopboopbeepbeepbeep

Ok, answered my own question:

https://network.satnogs.org/observations/2615366/

Not just me.


--Roy

K3RLD



> Anybody else hear this on the 16:00z pass of AO-92 that is finishing up
> right now?  Or is it my SDR? (didn't hear it on the AO-91 pass immediate
> before this AO-92 pass).
>
> --Roy
> K3RLD
>
>
_______________________________________________
Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb


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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2020 15:27:27 -0500
From: Bill Gaylord <chibill110@?????.???>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Amsat.org vs Launch.amsat.org?
Message-ID:
<CALS66Fs1C5OC5vUZYBrOpYx+F6odhjuddmZr9JGdo7Wyo+rUUQ@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

What's the difference between the two? I am a Amsat member (as of sunday)
and only have access to launch.amsat.org's login.  I have not found a way
to register for amsat.org's login and my launch.amsat.org login does not
work on amsat.org.

KD9KCK


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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2020 18:17:59 -0400
From: Michael N4DCW <michael@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] Sats and SOTA 7/29
Message-ID: <18AF9C3D-9FCB-4EE3-BC0C-E60872C280CB@?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset=utf-8

From W4C/WM-014 (Standing Indian) tomorrow, Wednesday 7/29, I?ll aim for the
following passes:

1123Z SO-50
1147Z XW-2F
1220Z AO-27
1304Z SO-50

Happy chasing!

73,
Michael

--

Michael Whitman@?????.???
Louisville, KY, USA - EM78

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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2020 22:43:15 -0400
From: Mark Hammond <marklhammond@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-92 mode L/v at 0241utc for 24 hrs 29 July 2020
Message-ID: <fd1ee3c7-15a6-f10e-a01d-b64993cbd256@?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed

Happy L-band!

AO-92 mode L/v at 0241utc for 24 hrs 29 July 2020, if power budget permits.

73,


--
Mark L. Hammond [N8MH]



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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2020 12:16:11 +0000 (UTC)
From: mikflathead@???.???
To: "amsat-bb@?????.???? <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] geo sat
Message-ID: <1597742003.7425258.1596024971795@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

I have been spending time listening to AO100. Are there any plans for one to
be over the USA in the future? Mike

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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2020 14:20:19 +0000
From: "Joseph B. Fitzgerald" <jfitzgerald@????.???.???>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>, Bill Gaylord <chibill110@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Amsat.org vs Launch.amsat.org?
Message-ID:
<DM5PR22MB0825A0809BC63BE7DC13A25087700@?????????????.????????.????.???????.??
?>

Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Hi Bill!

Welcome to AMSAT, we are sure glad to have you!

The essential difference is that launch.amsat.org is a recent addition to
our online presence designed for member services, e.g to provide member only
benefits such as access to the AMSAT Journal and so on.   www.amsat.org is
public, the main benefit to logging in there is to be able to buy items from
the AMSAT store such as antennas or tracking software.    At the moment,
there is no provision for a single sign on that would allow you access to
both.

de KM1P Joe

________________________________________
From: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb-bounces@?????.???> on behalf of Bill Gaylord via
AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2020 4:27 PM
To: AMSAT BB
Subject: [amsat-bb] Amsat.org vs Launch.amsat.org?

What's the difference between the two? I am a Amsat member (as of sunday)
and only have access to launch.amsat.org's login.  I have not found a way
to register for amsat.org's login and my launch.amsat.org login does not
work on amsat.org.

KD9KCK
_______________________________________________
Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb


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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2020 14:57:02 +0000 (UTC)
From: M5AKA <m5aka@?????.??.??>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] OSCAR Satellite QSO Party starts August 1
Message-ID: <276806940.13381677.1596034622694@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

The OSCAR Satellite QSO Party starts 0000 GMT on August 1 and runs until
2359 GMT on September 22. Details at
https://amsat-uk.org/2020/07/20/oscar-satellite-qso-party/

On Monday, July 27, Dom Smith M0BLF @????? gave an online talk ? Getting
started on the QO-100 geostationary satellite transponders ? as part of the
RSGB Tonight @ 8 live webinar series. The video of his talk is now
available, see
https://amsat-uk.org/2020/07/27/getting-started-on-qo-100/

ISS MAI-75 SSTV activity planned for Aug 4-5
https://amsat-uk.org/2020/07/27/iss-mai-75-sstv-activity-planned-for-aug-4-5/

UWE-4 News: Successful first demonstration of orbit control on a 1U CubeSat
https://amsat-uk.org/2020/07/22/uwe-4-news-successful-first-demonstration-of-o
rbit-control-on-a-1u-cubesat/

Trevor M5AKA----
AMSAT-UK?http://amsat-uk.org/
Twitter?https://twitter.com/AmsatUK
Facebook?https://facebook.com/AmsatUK
YouTube?https://youtube.com/AmsatUK
----



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Message: 12
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2020 16:27:16 +0000 (UTC)
From: Robert MacHale <robert.machale@?????.???>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Next BoD Cycle - Bruninga (WB4APR) & Bauer
(KA3HDO)
Message-ID: <1072453970.9010433.1596040036211@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

During the next election cycle for Board of Directors I hope these guys will
run - they are both senior and vibrant contributors to the community.

1) Bob Bruninga (WB4APR) - APRS on RS0ISS + many satellites
2) Frank Bauer (KA3HDO) - ARISS liaison to AMSAT

This is just my personal opinion - I am not sponsored by anyone; no sideways
hidden agendas.

73

Robert MacHale
. KE6BLR FCC Licensed Radio Operator?
.?http://www.aprsat.com/predict
.?http://www.spaceCommunicator.club?
. Supporting Boy Scout Merit Badges in Radio, Robotics, and Space Exploration

Silly Joke:?What did the little mountain say to the bigger mountain? Hi Cliff!
He who dares not offend cannot be honest. -- Thomas Paine


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Message: 13
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2020 10:42:50 -0600
From: "H. Stephen Nipper" <stephennipper@?????.???>
To: "Joseph B. Fitzgerald" <jfitzgerald@????.???.???>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Amsat.org vs Launch.amsat.org?
Message-ID:
<CAPf7+3p2srWG7oh15KadSBkSDvrwyN4vSTVRJXW62_bOXZwN6g@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

I noticed that you can make donations there now.  And with some members
using the lawyer card it would be a good time to make a donation.

Stephen Nipper
N7DJX

On Wed, Jul 29, 2020, 8:44 AM Joseph B. Fitzgerald via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:

> Hi Bill!
>
> Welcome to AMSAT, we are sure glad to have you!
>
> The essential difference is that launch.amsat.org is a recent addition to
> our online presence designed for member services, e.g to provide member
> only benefits such as access to the AMSAT Journal and so on.
> www.amsat.org is public, the main benefit to logging in there is to be
> able to buy items from the AMSAT store such as antennas or tracking
> software.    At the moment, there is no provision for a single sign on that
> would allow you access to both.
>
> de KM1P Joe
>
> ________________________________________
> From: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb-bounces@?????.???> on behalf of Bill Gaylord via
> AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2020 4:27 PM
> To: AMSAT BB
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Amsat.org vs Launch.amsat.org?
>
> What's the difference between the two? I am a Amsat member (as of sunday)
> and only have access to launch.amsat.org's login.  I have not found a way
> to register for amsat.org's login and my launch.amsat.org login does not
> work on amsat.org.
>
> KD9KCK
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>


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_______________________________________________
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AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide
without requiring membership.  Opinions expressed
are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
Not an AMSAT member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
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