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Today's Topics:
1. Re: AMSAT Critical Election (David Swanson)
2. Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2020-07-31 02:30 UTC
(aj9n@???.????
3. Re: AMSAT Critical Election (Jeff Moore)
4. Re: AMSAT Critical Election (W3AB/GEO)
5. Who Let THIS Info Out? (Clint Bradford)
6. Jan King (Edson W. R. Pereira)
7. Re: AMSAT Critical Election (Steve Nordahl)
8. The future of AMSAT (Ray Soifer)
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2020 21:19:55 -0500
From: David Swanson <dave@?????????????.???>
To: "<,amsat-bb@?????.???????? <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AMSAT Critical Election
Message-ID:
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I would highly recommend everyone who got this unsolicited email to use
their email provider's 'Report as Spam' function. What this does is let
your provider know this was unwanted messaging, and flags the originating
relay (the actual computer that sent the emails out) as a bad actor. If
enough folks flag said server as a bad actor, that server will start
getting ignored by the internet's email infrastructure thru a series of
blocklists and reputation databases. I flagged the first email this morning
as such, and I've been slowly watching the commercial vendor's relay climb
in the 'bad reputation' score all day. Normally inexpensive relay services
also have provisions that require someone renting their servers to have
*explicit* (that is, opt-in) permission from their receivers, or they risk
paying exorbitant fees for breaking the rules. I haven't dug into the TOS
of this particular relay service yet, but I would guess it's no different.
I'm sure Candidate DeFelice and Candidate Johns were aware of this fine
print when they chose to use this service, so they must have deeper pockets
than me.
The beauty of the internet today is it's largely a self policing group of
operators and engineers who just want things to work, and jerks to go
away.. and that's normally how it all goes down. Welcome to the 21st
century.
-Dave, KG5CCI
On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 7:07 PM Howie DeFelice via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
> Hi Dave,
>
> That is a great question. I asked a similar quest of Clayton Coleman last
> year when AMSAT sent me a time critical email to an address I rarely used.
> If AMSAT had an email list candidates should have access to it. The answer
> I got was that AMSAT did not, and officially still does not apparently,
> have an email list for members and he obtained my email from QRZ.com. AMSAT
> does provide candidates with a mailing list that includes callsigns so I
> looked up all the callsigns on the AMSAT mailing list in QRZ.com (over 2200
> of them) and did my own email broadcast. I did not use an outside firm and
> the email list will be treated with the same rules that govern the mailing
> list we were provided. I did have to lease access to a commercial smtp
> relay service, buy some software and modify my web site DNS but it was a
> fraction of the cost and much faster than sending snail mail. Welcome to
> the 21st century ? The email had an unsubscribe link if you don't want to
> receive any additional mail from me.
>
> 73,
> Howie AB2S
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Dave Webb KB1PVH <kb1pvh@?????.???>
> Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2020 1:59 PM
> To: Howie DeFelice <hdefelice@????.???????????.???>; AMSAT -BB <
> amsat-bb@?????.???>
> Subject: Re: AMSAT Critical Election
>
> Out of curiosity, did AMSAT supply email addresses to the candidates and
> if not how did a candidate get email addresses of AMSAT members?
>
> Dave-KB1PVH
>
>
> Sent from my Galaxy S9
>
> On Thu, Jul 30, 2020, 1:01 AM Howie DeFelice <
> hdefelice@????.???????????.???<????????????????@????.???????????.???>>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Your vote will determine the future of AMSAT
>
>
> My name is Howie DeFelice and I am running for the AMSAT board of
> directors. You probably have read my short candidate statement that came
> along with your ballot. You can find much more in depth information about
> me and my ideas on my web site at www.ab2s.freeservers.com<
>
https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Ftrack.smtpsen
demail.com%2F9026972%2Fc%3Fp%3DEjQ7tXvsYnBDjFRcefprDeK9ZMrjiwnhwu1PoCNwQCOhol0
d6TOWC01wpinvMUNi7-98ONNxia1MR-IC7uyR23vVYx1tK1TCPnYKm-2C3d9f2hbW2kfe04GG5yNT2
6N2qcRALnRe0WwVuOleo-bC5Q%3D%3D&data=02%7C01%7C%7C1bbae00e6e5b42aa491108d834b2
48ef%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637317287610480529&sdata=Tc8
WiEs%2FpEYEcB15jlcqebSycWMh3aCeEzedlKe%2Fsc8%3D&reserved=0
> >.
>
> I have received many emails and read many comments on the AMSAT-BB that
> support the idea of moving the orgnization to a more proactive posture. I
> have long felt there were a large segments of the membership that felt they
> were not being heard and the comments I have been getting have proved that
> to be true. If you are one of those that feel that AMSAT has become a
> specialized contest club, that technical advancement is lagging and the
> needs of ALL the membership are not being heard, now is your chance to make
> a difference.
>
> It's going to take a lot of hard work to get the organization back on
> it's founding path and will require a majority of like minded individuals.
> We need to add two more dedicated directors to the board this election to
> begin making progress, like being able to call regular board meetings.
> Please consider voting for me and my associates; Dr. Bob McGwire and Mr.
> Jeff Johns. Your vote WILL make a difference.
>
> Thank you for your time,
>
> Howie DeFelice AB2S
>
> Unsubscribe by email<mailto:ab2s@?????.???????????????????????>
>
> ________________________________
>
>
>
>
>
> You received this email as a member of AMSAT
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2020 02:41:53 +0000 (UTC)
From: aj9n@???.???
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2020-07-31
02:30 UTC
Message-ID: <1390744024.6898995.1596163313270@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2020-07-31 02:30 UTC
?
Quick list of scheduled contacts and events:
?
American School of Rio de Janeiro, Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, Multi-point
telebridge via ON4ISS
The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be OR4ISS
The scheduled astronaut is Chris Cassidy KF5KDR
Contact was successful: Thu 2020-07-30 16:41:42 UTC 78 deg (***)
?
Watch for live simulcast starting about 10 minutes before AOS at:
https://youtu.be/MSyfzEHYwrE??(***)
?
?
##############################################################################
##########################################################
A multi-point telebridge contact means that each student will be on the
telebridge from their own home.
*************************************************
?
ARISS is very aware of the impact that COVID-19 is having on schools and the
public in general.? As such, we may have last minute cancellations or
postponements of school contacts.? As always, I will try to provide everyone
with near-real-time updates.?
?
The following schools have now been postponed or cancelled due to COVID-19:?
?
Postponed:
No new schools
?
Cancelled:
No new schools
?
?
?
The ARISS webpage is at https://www.ariss.org/ ???
?
Watch for future COVID-19 related announcements here also.
?
?
Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site.
?
The main page for Applying to Host a Scheduled Contact may be found at
https://www.ariss.org/apply-to-host-an-ariss-contact.html ???
ARISS Contact Applications (United States)
?
?
Note, all times are approximate. ?It is recommended that you do your own
orbital prediction?or start listening about 10 minutes before the listed
time.
All dates and times listed follow International Standard ISO 8601 date and
time format YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS
?
The complete schedule page has been updated as of?2020-07-31 02:30 UTC. (***)
Here you will find a listing of all scheduled?school contacts, and
questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and Echolink websites, and
instructions for any contact that may be streamed live.
?
https://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf
https://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.txt
?
?
The successful school list has been updated as of 2020-07-31 02:30 UTC. (***)
https://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf
?
?
?
The ARISS webpage is at https://www.ariss.org/ ???
Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site.
?
The main page for Applying to Host a Scheduled Contact may be found at
https://www.ariss.org/apply-to-host-an-ariss-contact.html ???
?
ARISS Contact Applications (United States)
?
The ARISS webpage is at https://www.ariss.org/ ???
Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site.
?
?
Message to US Educators
?
ARISS Contact Applications (United States)
?
The Proposal Window of February 1, 2020 to March 31, 2020 has now closed.
?
For future proposal information and more details such as expectations,
proposal guidelines and proposal form, and dates and times of Information
Webinars, go to www.ariss.org.
?
Please direct any questions to?ariss.us.education@?????.???.
?
About ARISS:
?
Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS) is a cooperative
venture of international amateur radio societies and the space agencies that
support the International Space Station (ISS).? In the United States,
sponsors are the Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT), the American
Radio Relay League (ARRL), the ISS National Lab and National Aeronautics and
Space Administration (NASA). The primary goal of ARISS is to promote
exploration of science, technology, engineering, and mathematics (STEAM)
topics by organizing scheduled contacts via amateur radio between crew
members aboard the ISS and students in classrooms or public forms. Before
and during these radio contacts, students, educators, parents, and
communities learn about space, space technologies, and amateur radio. For
more information, see www.ariss.org.
?
******************************************************************************
**
ARISS Contact Applications (Europe, Africa and the Middle East)
?
Schools and Youth organizations in Europe, Africa and the Middle East
interested in setting up an ARISS radio contact with an astronaut on board
the International Space Station are invited to submit an application from
September to October and from February to April.
Please refer to details and the application form at
www.ariss-eu.org/school-contacts.? Applications should be addressed by email
to:? school.selection.manager@????????.???
?
ARISS Contact Applications (Canada, Central and South America, Asia and
Australia and Russia)
?
Organizations outside the United States can apply for an ARISS contact by
filling out an application.? Please direct questions to the appropriate
regional representative listed below. If your country is not specifically
listed, send your questions to the nearest ARISS Region listed. If you are
unsure which address to use, please send your question to the ARISS-Canada
representative; they will forward your question to the appropriate
coordinator.
?
For the application, go to:? https://www.ariss.org/ariss-application.html.
ARISS-Canada and the Americas, except USA: Steve McFarlane, VE3TBD email to:
ve3tbd@?????.???
ARISS-Japan, Asia, Pacific and Australia: Satoshi Yasuda, 7M3TJZ email to:
ariss@???????.???? Japan Amateur Radio League (JARL) https://www.jarl.org/
ARISS-Russia: Soyuz Radioljubitelei Rossii (SRR) https://srr.ru/
?
?
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ARISS is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts.?
ARISS thanks everyone in advance for their assistance.? Feel free to send
your reports to aj9n@?????.??? or aj9n@???.???.
?
Listen for the ISS on the downlink of 145.8? MHz.
?
******************************************************************************
*
?
All ARISS contacts are made via the Kenwood radio unless otherwise noted.
?
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*
Several of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and
not being able to get in. ?That has now been changed to https://www.ariss.org/
?
Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site.
?
****************************************************************************
Looking for something new to do?? How about receiving DATV from the ISS??
Please note that the HamTV system has been brought back to earth for
troubleshooting.? Please monitor ARISS-EU or ARISS-ON for the very latest
news on the troubleshooting efforts.?
?
If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for complete details.?
Look for the buttons indicating Ham Video.????????????
?
http://www.ariss-eu.org/
?
If you need some assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to
provide some insight.? Contact Kerry at kbanke@?????????.???
?
?
The HamTV webpage:? https://www.amsat-on.be/hamtv-summary/
?
?
****************************************************************************
ARISS congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100
schools:
?
Francesco IK?WGF with 140
Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 138
Sergey RV3DR with 134
Gaston ON4WF with 123
?
****************************************************************************
The webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy. Out of date
webpages were removed, and new ones have been added.? If there are additional
ARISS websites I need to know about, please let me know.
?
?
?
Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1393. (***)
Each school counts as 1 event.??????????????????????????????????
Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 1326. (***)
Each contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot.
Total number of ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is 48.
?
A complete year by year breakdown of the contacts may be found in the
file.
https://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf
?
Please feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are needed.
?
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
The following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact:
South Dakota, Wyoming, American?Samoa, Guam, Northern Marianas Islands, and
the Virgin Islands.
?
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
?
QSL information may be found at:
https://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html
?
ISS callsigns: DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS, RS?ISS
?
****************************************************************************
Frequency chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing
Doppler correction as of 2005-07-29 04:00 UTC
https://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction.
rtf
Check out the Zoho reports of the ARISS contacts
?
https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415
****************************************************************************
?
Exp. 62 now on orbit
Chris Cassidy KF5KDR
Anatoli Ivanishin
Ivan Vagner
?
SpaceX-Demo2 now on orbit
Bob Behnken KE5GGX
Doug Hurley
?
****************************************************************************
73,
Charlie?Sufana AJ9N
One of the ARISS operation team mentors
?
?
?
?
?
?
?
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2020 20:05:19 -0700
From: Jeff Moore <tnetcenter@?????.???>
To: David Swanson <dave@?????????????.???>, Amsat BB
<amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AMSAT Critical Election
Message-ID:
<CALx_moRehAn2JLhsuBi4pJ-cdWise=_e5=HfQdX73g4_Q3v31g@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
I love it! (NOT!!!) deliberate election interference -- you should be
proud!! Tips for democrats trying to overthrow a FEDERAL election!!
This is why I will probably NEVER become an AMSAT member - too many
liberals in charge!
KE7ACY
On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 7:23 PM David Swanson via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
> I would highly recommend everyone who got this unsolicited email to use
> their email provider's 'Report as Spam' function. What this does is let
> your provider know this was unwanted messaging, and flags the originating
> relay (the actual computer that sent the emails out) as a bad actor. If
> enough folks flag said server as a bad actor, that server will start
> getting ignored by the internet's email infrastructure thru a series of
> blocklists and reputation databases. I flagged the first email this morning
> as such, and I've been slowly watching the commercial vendor's relay climb
> in the 'bad reputation' score all day. Normally inexpensive relay services
> also have provisions that require someone renting their servers to have
> *explicit* (that is, opt-in) permission from their receivers, or they risk
> paying exorbitant fees for breaking the rules. I haven't dug into the TOS
> of this particular relay service yet, but I would guess it's no different.
> I'm sure Candidate DeFelice and Candidate Johns were aware of this fine
> print when they chose to use this service, so they must have deeper pockets
> than me.
>
> The beauty of the internet today is it's largely a self policing group of
> operators and engineers who just want things to work, and jerks to go
> away.. and that's normally how it all goes down. Welcome to the 21st
> century.
>
> -Dave, KG5CCI
>
> On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 7:07 PM Howie DeFelice via AMSAT-BB <
> amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>
> > Hi Dave,
> >
> > That is a great question. I asked a similar quest of Clayton Coleman last
> > year when AMSAT sent me a time critical email to an address I rarely
> used.
> > If AMSAT had an email list candidates should have access to it. The
> answer
> > I got was that AMSAT did not, and officially still does not apparently,
> > have an email list for members and he obtained my email from QRZ.com.
> AMSAT
> > does provide candidates with a mailing list that includes callsigns so I
> > looked up all the callsigns on the AMSAT mailing list in QRZ.com (over
> 2200
> > of them) and did my own email broadcast. I did not use an outside firm
> and
> > the email list will be treated with the same rules that govern the
> mailing
> > list we were provided. I did have to lease access to a commercial smtp
> > relay service, buy some software and modify my web site DNS but it was a
> > fraction of the cost and much faster than sending snail mail. Welcome to
> > the 21st century ? The email had an unsubscribe link if you don't want
> to
> > receive any additional mail from me.
> >
> > 73,
> > Howie AB2S
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Dave Webb KB1PVH <kb1pvh@?????.???>
> > Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2020 1:59 PM
> > To: Howie DeFelice <hdefelice@????.???????????.???>; AMSAT -BB <
> > amsat-bb@?????.???>
> > Subject: Re: AMSAT Critical Election
> >
> > Out of curiosity, did AMSAT supply email addresses to the candidates and
> > if not how did a candidate get email addresses of AMSAT members?
> >
> > Dave-KB1PVH
> >
> >
> > Sent from my Galaxy S9
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 30, 2020, 1:01 AM Howie DeFelice <
> > hdefelice@????.???????????.???<????????????????@????.???????????.???>>
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Your vote will determine the future of AMSAT
> >
> >
> > My name is Howie DeFelice and I am running for the AMSAT board of
> > directors. You probably have read my short candidate statement that came
> > along with your ballot. You can find much more in depth information about
> > me and my ideas on my web site at www.ab2s.freeservers.com<
> >
>
https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Ftrack.smtpsen
demail.com%2F9026972%2Fc%3Fp%3DEjQ7tXvsYnBDjFRcefprDeK9ZMrjiwnhwu1PoCNwQCOhol0
d6TOWC01wpinvMUNi7-98ONNxia1MR-IC7uyR23vVYx1tK1TCPnYKm-2C3d9f2hbW2kfe04GG5yNT2
6N2qcRALnRe0WwVuOleo-bC5Q%3D%3D&data=02%7C01%7C%7C1bbae00e6e5b42aa491108d834b2
48ef%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637317287610480529&sdata=Tc8
WiEs%2FpEYEcB15jlcqebSycWMh3aCeEzedlKe%2Fsc8%3D&reserved=0
> > >.
> >
> > I have received many emails and read many comments on the AMSAT-BB that
> > support the idea of moving the orgnization to a more proactive posture. I
> > have long felt there were a large segments of the membership that felt
> they
> > were not being heard and the comments I have been getting have proved
> that
> > to be true. If you are one of those that feel that AMSAT has become a
> > specialized contest club, that technical advancement is lagging and the
> > needs of ALL the membership are not being heard, now is your chance to
> make
> > a difference.
> >
> > It's going to take a lot of hard work to get the organization back on
> > it's founding path and will require a majority of like minded
> individuals.
> > We need to add two more dedicated directors to the board this election to
> > begin making progress, like being able to call regular board meetings.
> > Please consider voting for me and my associates; Dr. Bob McGwire and Mr.
> > Jeff Johns. Your vote WILL make a difference.
> >
> > Thank you for your time,
> >
> > Howie DeFelice AB2S
> >
> > Unsubscribe by email<mailto:ab2s@?????.???????????????????????>
> >
> > ________________________________
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > You received this email as a member of AMSAT
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions
> > expressed
> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> > AMSAT-NA.
> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
> > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> >
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
------------------------------
Message: 4
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2020 20:44:19 -0700
From: W3AB/GEO <w3ab@?????.???>
To: Jeff Moore <tnetcenter@?????.???>
Cc: Amsat BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AMSAT Critical Election
Message-ID: <3b7d83a4-f4cb-4a40-bfd5-482e198f8a34@?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Totally uncalled for.
?___
Sent from my two way wrist watch
73 de W3AB/GEO?
On Jul 30, 2020, 20:14, at 20:14, Jeff Moore via AMSAT-BB
<amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>I love it! (NOT!!!) deliberate election interference -- you should
>be
>proud!! Tips for democrats trying to overthrow a FEDERAL election!!
>
>This is why I will probably NEVER become an AMSAT member - too many
>liberals in charge!
>
>KE7ACY
>
>On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 7:23 PM David Swanson via AMSAT-BB <
>amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>
>> I would highly recommend everyone who got this unsolicited email to
>use
>> their email provider's 'Report as Spam' function. What this does is
>let
>> your provider know this was unwanted messaging, and flags the
>originating
>> relay (the actual computer that sent the emails out) as a bad actor.
>If
>> enough folks flag said server as a bad actor, that server will start
>> getting ignored by the internet's email infrastructure thru a series
>of
>> blocklists and reputation databases. I flagged the first email this
>morning
>> as such, and I've been slowly watching the commercial vendor's relay
>climb
>> in the 'bad reputation' score all day. Normally inexpensive relay
>services
>> also have provisions that require someone renting their servers to
>have
>> *explicit* (that is, opt-in) permission from their receivers, or they
>risk
>> paying exorbitant fees for breaking the rules. I haven't dug into the
>TOS
>> of this particular relay service yet, but I would guess it's no
>different.
>> I'm sure Candidate DeFelice and Candidate Johns were aware of this
>fine
>> print when they chose to use this service, so they must have deeper
>pockets
>> than me.
>>
>> The beauty of the internet today is it's largely a self policing
>group of
>> operators and engineers who just want things to work, and jerks to go
>> away.. and that's normally how it all goes down. Welcome to the 21st
>> century.
>>
>> -Dave, KG5CCI
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 7:07 PM Howie DeFelice via AMSAT-BB <
>> amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>>
>> > Hi Dave,
>> >
>> > That is a great question. I asked a similar quest of Clayton
>Coleman last
>> > year when AMSAT sent me a time critical email to an address I
>rarely
>> used.
>> > If AMSAT had an email list candidates should have access to it. The
>> answer
>> > I got was that AMSAT did not, and officially still does not
>apparently,
>> > have an email list for members and he obtained my email from
>QRZ.com.
>> AMSAT
>> > does provide candidates with a mailing list that includes callsigns
>so I
>> > looked up all the callsigns on the AMSAT mailing list in QRZ.com
>(over
>> 2200
>> > of them) and did my own email broadcast. I did not use an outside
>firm
>> and
>> > the email list will be treated with the same rules that govern the
>> mailing
>> > list we were provided. I did have to lease access to a commercial
>smtp
>> > relay service, buy some software and modify my web site DNS but it
>was a
>> > fraction of the cost and much faster than sending snail mail.
>Welcome to
>> > the 21st century ? The email had an unsubscribe link if you don't
>want
>> to
>> > receive any additional mail from me.
>> >
>> > 73,
>> > Howie AB2S
>> >
>> >
>> > ________________________________
>> > From: Dave Webb KB1PVH <kb1pvh@?????.???>
>> > Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2020 1:59 PM
>> > To: Howie DeFelice <hdefelice@????.???????????.???>; AMSAT -BB <
>> > amsat-bb@?????.???>
>> > Subject: Re: AMSAT Critical Election
>> >
>> > Out of curiosity, did AMSAT supply email addresses to the
>candidates and
>> > if not how did a candidate get email addresses of AMSAT members?
>> >
>> > Dave-KB1PVH
>> >
>> >
>> > Sent from my Galaxy S9
>> >
>> > On Thu, Jul 30, 2020, 1:01 AM Howie DeFelice <
>> >
>hdefelice@????.???????????.???<????????????????@????.???????????.???>>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Your vote will determine the future of AMSAT
>> >
>> >
>> > My name is Howie DeFelice and I am running for the AMSAT board of
>> > directors. You probably have read my short candidate statement that
>came
>> > along with your ballot. You can find much more in depth information
>about
>> > me and my ideas on my web site at www.ab2s.freeservers.com<
>> >
>>
>https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Ftrack.smtpse
ndemail.com%2F9026972%2Fc%3Fp%3DEjQ7tXvsYnBDjFRcefprDeK9ZMrjiwnhwu1PoCNwQCOhol
0d6TOWC01wpinvMUNi7-98ONNxia1MR-IC7uyR23vVYx1tK1TCPnYKm-2C3d9f2hbW2kfe04GG5yNT
26N2qcRALnRe0WwVuOleo-bC5Q%3D%3D&data=02%7C01%7C%7C1bbae00e6e5b42aa491108d834b
248ef%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637317287610480529&sdata=Tc
8WiEs%2FpEYEcB15jlcqebSycWMh3aCeEzedlKe%2Fsc8%3D&reserved=0
>> > >.
>> >
>> > I have received many emails and read many comments on the AMSAT-BB
>that
>> > support the idea of moving the orgnization to a more proactive
>posture. I
>> > have long felt there were a large segments of the membership that
>felt
>> they
>> > were not being heard and the comments I have been getting have
>proved
>> that
>> > to be true. If you are one of those that feel that AMSAT has become
>a
>> > specialized contest club, that technical advancement is lagging and
>the
>> > needs of ALL the membership are not being heard, now is your chance
>to
>> make
>> > a difference.
>> >
>> > It's going to take a lot of hard work to get the organization back
>on
>> > it's founding path and will require a majority of like minded
>> individuals.
>> > We need to add two more dedicated directors to the board this
>election to
>> > begin making progress, like being able to call regular board
>meetings.
>> > Please consider voting for me and my associates; Dr. Bob McGwire
>and Mr.
>> > Jeff Johns. Your vote WILL make a difference.
>> >
>> > Thank you for your time,
>> >
>> > Howie DeFelice AB2S
>> >
>> > Unsubscribe by email<mailto:ab2s@?????.???????????????????????>
>> >
>> > ________________________________
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > You received this email as a member of AMSAT
>> >
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
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>> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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>> > expressed
>> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official
>views of
>> > AMSAT-NA.
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>> _______________________________________________
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>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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>_______________________________________________
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2020 22:08:19 -0700
From: Clint Bradford <clintbradford@???.???>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Who Let THIS Info Out?
Message-ID: <464D17ED-8713-4086-88F2-067D791DA6EE@???.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Gawd, did someone sue AMSAT-NA to obtain a membership email mailing list or
something?
All sorts of campaign statements from folks who don?t deserve votes in my IN
BOX this evening ?
No need to reply.
Clint Bradford K6LCS
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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2020 09:05:29 -0300
From: "Edson W. R. Pereira" <ewpereira@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] Jan King
Message-ID:
<CALNQy4_MKtkQKi=CsBJkfZw=b5YZDkyhs4jBx3qfvuiAqsH__g@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
Hi Ray,
Do you have an email address to Jan King? I read a paper he wrote about
experiments with cubesats in the Ka band, but the email he used seems no
longer valid.
73, Edson PY2SDR
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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2020 14:00:33 +0000 (UTC)
From: Steve Nordahl <ns3l@?????.???>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AMSAT Critical Election
Message-ID: <1369278981.10048765.1596204033483@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
I wonder why some members have a major problem getting unsolicited emails
possibly obtained from QRZ or other from a prospective candidate(s), but
don't blow up when another group representing incumbents use QRZ or other to
get addresses to send out unsolicited preprinted mail?
Steve NS3L
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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2020 14:06:17 +0000 (UTC)
From: Ray Soifer <rsoifer1@???.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] The future of AMSAT
Message-ID: <437851525.8358907.1596204377010@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Joe,
With a little ingenuity, including choice of licensing country, we can have
legal digital gateway stations.? Operating rules can be changed if
necessary, although we have to stay within license regulations.? I didn't
say that such stations would be cheap, although such a network would cost a
lot less than trying to build our own HEO.? As a point of reference, AO-40
cost about $5 million in today's dollars, roughly half of which was raised
by AMSAT-NA and? ARRL.? It was my bad luck to be acting president of
AMSAT-NA during the failure and partial recovery of AO-40.? I'll never
forget the great work done to get it back in operation, and those who did
it. I hope we'll never have to go through something like that again, but
after all it IS rocket science.
73 Ray W2RS
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