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Today's Topics:
1. Re: AMSAT Critical Election (John Brier)
2. Hawkeye 360 2nd cluster in the chamber. (Robert McGwier)
3. Re: AMSAT Critical Election (Charles Reiche)
4. Re: Hawkeye 360 2nd cluster in the chamber. (Roy Dean)
5. Re: Hawkeye 360 2nd cluster in the chamber. (Tucker McGuire)
6. Re: AMSAT Critical Election (Joseph Armbruster)
7. BBS Going Back To SPAM (Bob Liddy (K8BL))
8. Re: AMSAT Critical Election (Martin VE3OAT)
9. Re: BBS Going Back To SPAM (Kenneth P Alexander)
10. Re: AMSAT Critical Election (Jean Marc Momple)
11. Re: AMSAT Critical Election (Martin VE3OAT)
12. GS-232B Advice? (Chris Hoffman)
13. Re: GS-232B Advice? (Mark Johns, K0JM)
14. Re: GS-232B Advice? (jim@?????.????
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2020 10:29:16 -0400
From: John Brier <johnbrier@?????.???>
To: Steve Nordahl <ns3l@?????.???>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AMSAT Critical Election
Message-ID:
<CALn0fKPXmEQmvFXt3Sv=2JQU88FXA+JL0Ca44z7anPA74AskJg@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
Also, when others last year did the same thing it was referred to as
"buying the election."
73, John Brier KG4AKV
On Fri, Jul 31, 2020, 10:03 Steve Nordahl via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
wrote:
> I wonder why some members have a major problem getting unsolicited emails
> possibly obtained from QRZ or other from a prospective candidate(s), but
> don't blow up when another group representing incumbents use QRZ or other
> to get addresses to send out unsolicited preprinted mail?
>
> Steve NS3L
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2020 09:31:13 -0500
From: Robert McGwier <rwmcgwier@?????.???>
To: amsat bb <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Hawkeye 360 2nd cluster in the chamber.
Message-ID:
<CA+K5gzd7r-11mUTCBJ8bFPdvMr2NjvX3B9zpvfjOZHGXDaDm8g@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
Hawkeye 360's next cluster is in the chamber getting tested. This is so
cool. I will never forget my experience testing the Microsats for AMSAT the
last century. Thank you AMSAT for all you have been to me.
Check this photo out.
73s Bob N4HY
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1StsK2w7x05tHcHP6wHfFZF8iFX-Quuqs/view?usp=dri
vesdk
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2020 10:50:29 -0400
From: Charles Reiche <charlieray@?????.???>
To: Steve Nordahl <ns3l@?????.???>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AMSAT Critical Election
Message-ID:
<CAMkCmDqXea4AJCHwVQLJtz-+GNvAZv__LHntDJTmNfiv0zHqcA@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
Steve,
The mailing list is provided to candidates, email addresses are not.
Everyone has to determine *on their own* whether or not the correlation of
the mailing list to email addresses scraped out of QRZ to be legitimate.
The mailing is provided by the bylaws of AMSAT as per the election process,
and has been for years!
If that needs to be changed, bring it up in a formal manner. A list of
whatever you are agreeing to when joining AMSAT should be made available to
the membership. Then if an opt-out process is adopted, people should be
able to opt-out. It will save postage. Seems reasonable, but also creates
work for volunteers that doesn't seem to be related to building and
launching satellites, other than saving a few stamps.
73
N3CRT
Charles Reiche
On Fri, Jul 31, 2020 at 10:03 AM Steve Nordahl via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
> I wonder why some members have a major problem getting unsolicited emails
> possibly obtained from QRZ or other from a prospective candidate(s), but
> don't blow up when another group representing incumbents use QRZ or other
> to get addresses to send out unsolicited preprinted mail?
>
> Steve NS3L
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2020 10:52:20 -0400
From: Roy Dean <royldean@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Hawkeye 360 2nd cluster in the chamber.
Message-ID:
<CADGPg2sPjST-OS=UCV_xpJ=hud9yQswJraX+-cg9X3+x55k+qQ@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
That's exactly what my ham shack looks like.
--Roy
K3RLD
> Check this photo out.
>
> 73s Bob N4HY
>
>
>
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1StsK2w7x05tHcHP6wHfFZF8iFX-Quuqs/view?usp=dri
vesdk
>
>
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2020 11:00:37 -0400
From: Tucker McGuire <tucker@???????????.???>
To: Robert McGwier <rwmcgwier@?????.???>
Cc: amsat bb <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Hawkeye 360 2nd cluster in the chamber.
Message-ID:
<CA+gmQJSKVK10MjjSN9N9jpNW4vMc1nAa3+EVMxuH6mYCmQGbLA@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
Hey Bob,
While this is impressive, and the advancement of the company is also
impressive, it's also a commercial venture and isn't connected to the
amateur satellite space. It would be nice if on this BB we could stick to
amateur sats and reserve posts about commercial satellite ventures for a
more appropriate space.
With that said, if it's your company, perhaps you could incorporate some
ham payloads into the spacecraft, at that point it would become very
appropriate for this list ;)
Best,
Tucker
W4FS/VE9FS
On Fri, Jul 31, 2020, 10:51 AM Robert McGwier via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
> Hawkeye 360's next cluster is in the chamber getting tested. This is so
> cool. I will never forget my experience testing the Microsats for AMSAT the
> last century. Thank you AMSAT for all you have been to me.
>
> Check this photo out.
>
> 73s Bob N4HY
>
>
>
>
>
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1StsK2w7x05tHcHP6wHfFZF8iFX-Quuqs/view?usp=dri
vesdk
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2020 11:13:56 -0400
From: Joseph Armbruster <josepharmbruster@?????.???>
To: John Brier <johnbrier@?????.???>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>, Steve Nordahl <ns3l@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AMSAT Critical Election
Message-ID:
<CADkz4c8q=zzMXyaO61g=zEj5HoP-zWUD1onq02cAB9oJhFccEA@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
I paid off the postal service for a stamp, so that I could cast my vote for:
Hammond, Paige, Stoetzer
Personally, I am not opposed to receiving email, snail-mail, or any
other kind of information from candidates. With so much junk-mail
coming in, it's nice to receive something that I Want to read. Being
able to cross-reference public datasets to contact individuals is just
life...
Cheers,
Joseph Armbruster
KJ4JIO
On Fri, Jul 31, 2020 at 10:59 AM John Brier via AMSAT-BB
<amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>
> Also, when others last year did the same thing it was referred to as
> "buying the election."
>
> 73, John Brier KG4AKV
>
> On Fri, Jul 31, 2020, 10:03 Steve Nordahl via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
> wrote:
>
> > I wonder why some members have a major problem getting unsolicited emails
> > possibly obtained from QRZ or other from a prospective candidate(s), but
> > don't blow up when another group representing incumbents use QRZ or other
> > to get addresses to send out unsolicited preprinted mail?
> >
> > Steve NS3L
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> > expressed
> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> > AMSAT-NA.
> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> >
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2020 16:18:18 +0000 (UTC)
From: "Bob Liddy (K8BL)" <k8bl@?????????.???>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] BBS Going Back To SPAM
Message-ID: <1068095052.10111605.1596212298804@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Just when I hoped things had settled down on the AMSAT-BB and
it was safe to begin reading about Amateur Satellites and Operations
again, things started to go back to "other stuff".? So, it's going BACK
to SPAM again and I'll check back in a couple weeks. GEEESH!!
73,? ? Bob? K8BL? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? (AMSAT #6593, since 1979)
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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2020 11:33:14 -0400
From: Martin VE3OAT <ve3oat@?????.??>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Cc: Ray Soifer <rsoifer1@???.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AMSAT Critical Election
Message-ID: <627dc4e4-f0a0-3bb9-f43e-9673ab14611e@?????.??>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
Ray Soifer wrote :
"I am not endorsing any candidate, nor do I think my endorsement would
matter anyway."
To the contrary, Ray, I suspect that I am not the only one on the
fringes who would appreciate knowing who you would endorse in this
election.
... Martin Potter?? VE3OAT
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Message: 9
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2020 23:36:34 +0700
From: Kenneth P Alexander <ve3hls@?????.???>
To: "Bob Liddy (K8BL)" <k8bl@?????????.???>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] BBS Going Back To SPAM
Message-ID:
<CAPOM0dkJTC6XOUMBg+v_4fd7fXFadVx9FQCsBbDB5ixj3xTw=g@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
Democracy in action Bob. Check back after the election.
Ken Alexander, VE3HLS
So Phisai, Thailand
Blog: bueng-ken.com
On Fri, Jul 31, 2020 at 11:26 PM Bob Liddy (K8BL) via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
> Just when I hoped things had settled down on the AMSAT-BB and
> it was safe to begin reading about Amateur Satellites and Operations
> again, things started to go back to "other stuff". So, it's going BACK
> to SPAM again and I'll check back in a couple weeks. GEEESH!!
>
> 73, Bob K8BL (AMSAT #6593, since 1979)
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
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Message: 10
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2020 21:10:26 +0400
From: Jean Marc Momple <jean.marc.momple@?????.???>
To: Martin VE3OAT <ve3oat@?????.??>
Cc: Ray Soifer <rsoifer1@???.???>, AMSAT <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AMSAT Critical Election
Message-ID: <2CEDB73A-3BDD-4F4B-A9B3-64A780656240@?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Martin,
I tend to disagree with you if I understood well your mail.
Not voting are not taking a stand will mean that one doing so is just
disengaging, therefore cannot complain in the future about doings of the
elected members. I believe that all members of an association (or country
actually) not exercising their right of vote are not exercising their basic
right in a democratic regime. Just an opinion, so many regimes around the
world do not care about democracy and if we can or be lucky enough we should
choose our leaders to represent us (if case they fail in a democracy we can
fire them at next one).
In any case we have the leaders we deserve (good or bad) as a community in a
democracy by our own choice, voting or not.
My one cent input.
73
Jean Marc (3B8DU)
> On Jul 31, 2020, at 7:33 PM, Martin VE3OAT via AMSAT-BB
<amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>
> Ray Soifer wrote :
>
> "I am not endorsing any candidate, nor do I think my endorsement would
matter anyway."
>
> To the contrary, Ray, I suspect that I am not the only one on the fringes
who would appreciate knowing who you would endorse in this election.
>
> ... Martin Potter VE3OAT
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
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Message: 11
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2020 13:43:35 -0400
From: Martin VE3OAT <ve3oat@?????.??>
To: Jean Marc Momple <jean.marc.momple@?????.???>
Cc: Ray Soifer <rsoifer1@???.???>, AMSAT <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AMSAT Critical Election
Message-ID: <b47e5320-e1ea-7535-c274-381d3ec0dc42@?????.??>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
Hi, Jean Marc,
I think you misunderstood what I wrote or what I intended (which was
perhaps not very clear).
I feel strongly about democracy and do intend to vote in this
election, but am still confused. I have followed most of the debate
here, reading the accusations (some of which were serious), the
justifications (a few of which seemed quite logical), the complaints,
the excuses, and the murmurings of discontent. I can see the need for
change. But being a new member of AMSAT-NA and not knowing any of the
candidates or the history of the organization, I am still confused.
I know Ray Soifer from many years ago (IARU) and would trust his
judgement and any guidance that he might offer. So, I was asking him
to tell us, if he is agreeable, who he would vote for.
73,
... Martin VE3OAT
On 2020-07-31 1:10 p.m., Jean Marc Momple wrote:
> Martin,
>
> I tend to disagree with you if I understood well your mail.
>
> Not voting are not taking a stand will mean that one doing so is just
disengaging, therefore cannot complain in the future about doings of the
elected members. I believe that all members of an association (or country
actually) not exercising their right of vote are not exercising their basic
right in a democratic regime. Just an opinion, so many regimes around the
world do not care about democracy and if we can or be lucky enough we should
choose our leaders to represent us (if case they fail in a democracy we can
fire them at next one).
>
> In any case we have the leaders we deserve (good or bad) as a community in
a democracy by our own choice, voting or not.
>
> My one cent input.
>
> 73
>
>
>
> Jean Marc (3B8DU)
>
>> On Jul 31, 2020, at 7:33 PM, Martin VE3OAT via AMSAT-BB
<amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>>
>> Ray Soifer wrote :
>>
>> "I am not endorsing any candidate, nor do I think my endorsement would
matter anyway."
>>
>> To the contrary, Ray, I suspect that I am not the only one on the fringes
who would appreciate knowing who you would endorse in this election.
>>
>> ... Martin Potter VE3OAT
>>
>>
>
>
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Message: 12
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2020 10:57:40 -0700
From: Chris Hoffman <cq.kg6o@?????.???>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] GS-232B Advice?
Message-ID:
<CANPmdb0dHY==tSxeUf5NBCURSarh+MqMgogmW-5c1OrKiWYtnA@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
Happy Birthday to me: I now own a G-5500 and it's controller! Now... I need
the computer interface.
As opposed to paying the $ for an authentic GS-232B, I see the following
item come up a lot in my EBay feed, and I'm left to wonder if it is worth
trying:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Rotator-Control-Interface-Board-with-Cable-USB-232B-f
or-YAESU-G-800-1000-2800DXA/124009089208?hash=item1cdf8488b8:g:a0YAAOSw-c9d8wt
l
That, or I spring for a Green Heron, right?
What do you think? What other options should I consider?
/ch
N6QR
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Message: 13
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2020 13:17:47 -0500
From: "Mark Johns, K0JM" <k0jm.mark@?????.???>
To: Chris Hoffman <cq.kg6o@?????.???>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] GS-232B Advice?
Message-ID:
<CADDbS5CY4FcYX=HAh4pB4CABax4zaEHNPo5TuzC4LLMzoNm_YA@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
Consider building your own. It's a fun project and much, much cheaper:
https://blog.radioartisan.com/yaesu-rotator-computer-serial-interface/
--
Mark D. Johns, K?JM
AMSAT Ambassador & News Service Editor
Brooklyn Park, MN USA EN35hd
-----------------------------------------------
"Heaven goes by favor; if it went by merit,
you would stay out and your dog would go in."
---Mark Twain
On Fri, Jul 31, 2020 at 1:10 PM Chris Hoffman via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
> Happy Birthday to me: I now own a G-5500 and it's controller! Now... I need
> the computer interface.
>
> As opposed to paying the $ for an authentic GS-232B, I see the following
> item come up a lot in my EBay feed, and I'm left to wonder if it is worth
> trying:
>
>
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Rotator-Control-Interface-Board-with-Cable-USB-232B-f
or-YAESU-G-800-1000-2800DXA/124009089208?hash=item1cdf8488b8:g:a0YAAOSw-c9d8wt
l
>
> That, or I spring for a Green Heron, right?
>
> What do you think? What other options should I consider?
>
> /ch
> N6QR
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
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Message: 14
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2020 11:18:21 -0700 (PDT)
From: "jim@?????.???? <jim@?????.???>
To: "AMSAT BB" <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] GS-232B Advice?
Message-ID: <1596219501.080920059@????.?????????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain;charset=UTF-8
Chris,
Happy birthday.
You might want to look at the FoxDelta ST2.
http://www.foxdelta.com/products/st2-0417.htm
Jim Walls - K6CCC
-----Original Message-----
From: "Chris Hoffman via AMSAT-BB" <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Sent: Friday, July 31, 2020 10:57
To: "AMSAT BB" <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] GS-232B Advice?
Happy Birthday to me: I now own a G-5500 and it's controller! Now... I need
the computer interface.
As opposed to paying the $ for an authentic GS-232B, I see the following
item come up a lot in my EBay feed, and I'm left to wonder if it is worth
trying:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Rotator-Control-Interface-Board-with-Cable-USB-232B-f
or-YAESU-G-800-1000-2800DXA/124009089208?hash=item1cdf8488b8:g:a0YAAOSw-c9d8wt
l
That, or I spring for a Green Heron, right?
What do you think? What other options should I consider?
/ch
N6QR
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