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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: FT-736 power supply part. Thanks everyone.
      (Vince Fiscus, KB7ADL)
   2. Re: Who Let THIS Info Out? (Bruce Perens)
   3. Re: FT-736 power supply part. Thanks everyone. (Zach Metzinger)
   4. Forensic Accounting (Jeff Johns)
   5. Re: FT-736 power supply part. (Vince Fiscus, KB7ADL)
   6. Re: FT-736 power supply part. (Vince Fiscus, KB7ADL)
   7. ONE INDIVIDUAL'S VIEW (GEO Badger)
   8. Re: ONE INDIVIDUAL'S VIEW (Robert Bankston)
   9. ANS-222 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins (Paul Stoetzer)
  10. Is AMSAT an educational organization? (Bruce Perens)


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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 07 Aug 2020 18:56:27 -0600
From: "Vince Fiscus, KB7ADL" <vlfiscus@???.???>
To: Amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] FT-736 power supply part. Thanks everyone.
Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20200807182305.0212f9e0@???.?????????.???>
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At 03:23 PM 8/7/2020 -0700, wa7fwf@?????.??? wrote:
>Vince,
>?  The SCR looks to be the crowbar for a overvoltage, you may have
>something else wrong also.
>
>http://radioaficion.com/mods/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/DL7VHFs-FT-736R-modif
ied-PSU-schematic.gif
>
>There is the schematic for a 736R, not sure what the R difference is but
>it lists your SCR as a 5P4M, a google search shows many available.
>
>73
>Kevin


Thanks Kevin,
and everyone else for the help,  I have all schematics
and original manuals for the rig, but didn't have one for the
PSU. Ha, Murphy's law

I think the reason the SCR finally gave out,  was I kept the radio
on 24/7, and there is a lot of heat in it any way. I need to make
up a 12V power cord so I can power it externally.

And Talk about good luck, I also noticed I can buy the SCR on ebay,
NEC brand.

Thanks again everyone for all the help.

73



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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2020 17:03:53 -0700
From: Bruce Perens <bruce@??????.???>
To: Joseph Armbruster <josepharmbruster@?????.???>
Cc: AMSAT <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Who Let THIS Info Out?
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On Fri, Aug 7, 2020 at 4:29 PM Joseph Armbruster <josepharmbruster@?????.???>
wrote:

> I have seen the absolute worst that humanity has to offer.
>

Gosh, that is a horrible story and I am so sorry to hear that this happened
to you. I also watched my father die, much too young, in front of me. But
not from violence. Still, you never really recover.

My personal story of injustice is about being put, without examination, in
the "retarded" children's class on my first day in school. I had speech and
motor deficits and a 140 IQ at the time. They didn't tell my parents. They
did not teach reading. I had no idea, as a  first grader, what to expect
and my parents did not find out until they realized that my description of
my classmates was unusual. I got out eventually, but the injustice and
damage continued.

Having been completely failed by the formal educational system, Amateur
Radio was an important part in my self-education. It was through
self-education that I got to work for Pixar and later was a computer
science and public policy researcher and lecturer at three colleges,
despite my lack of a degree and without ever having taken the first formal
class in those things.

> Many people in AMSAT have really changed my life and I know that I am not
the only one that feels this way.
> As a result, I take all of this very personally.  Maybe this is just my
own experience and maybe i'm the only one... but..
> None of these people hired lawyers against me, ever.

People have very definitely hired lawyers for the purpose of suppressing my
speech. The fact that I won the case and recovered my defense costs, which
were well over my usual year's income, should be sufficient proof that
justice was not on their side. So, I hope you can understand that I take
that sort of legal attack every bit as personally.

Michelle and Patrick will not have to win any case, but the board's
handling of opposition was IMO very ill-conceived. You are attempting to
support that with an argument that nobody would accept in a court room, and
that is fundamentally ad-hominem. You can expect others to take offense
when you use it, and to show it in the light of the worse elements of
society that have historically used it. I suggest that you not make a third
repetition of this argument if you don't want to hear the rebuttal again.

    Thanks

    Bruce


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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 07 Aug 2020 23:35:37 -0500
From: Zach Metzinger <zmetzing@?????.???>
To: "Vince Fiscus, KB7ADL" <vlfiscus@???.???>, "Vince Fiscus,	KB7ADL
via AMSAT-BB" <amsat-bb@?????.???>, Amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] FT-736 power supply part. Thanks everyone.
Message-ID: <C8A18775-CD13-415E-B4D3-ACA831990613@?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

> And Talk about good luck, I also noticed I can buy the SCR on ebay, NEC
brand.

A word of warning about eBay and out of production parts: a
not-insignificant number of those are fakes.

The SCR isn't very specialized, so pick something with equivalent specs from
Digikey or Mouser. They should be very cheap, and it saves you from doing
the job twice when the fake one fails.

--- Zach
N0ZGO


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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2020 03:11:11 -0500
From: Jeff Johns <jeff30339@?????.???>
To: AMSAT <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Forensic Accounting
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Do any of the legacy, BoDs or Officers, who are running for re-election
against me want to join me to call for a full forensic accounting of AMSAT?s
finances?

Many members want this to occur. No matter the cost, it seems to me this
would help to remove the cloud that is currently hovering over AMSAT.

Anyone?

If elected, I would make a motion for this to occur. I am committed to full
transparency for the organization. A full financial audit including an full
inventory of all assets of AMSAT would go a long way towards rebuilding the
trust of members.

Jeff WE4B
http://we4bravo.com

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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 08 Aug 2020 10:19:41 -0600
From: "Vince Fiscus, KB7ADL" <vlfiscus@???.???>
To: Amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] FT-736 power supply part.
Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20200808100929.02123ba8@???.?????????.???>
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There is also a capacitor C24 that's mounted right
next to where the hot SCR was,  I think that should
be replaced to as it looks baked.  Anyone have
recommendation on what type of capacitor I should
use that can withstand the heat?

KB7ADL



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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 08 Aug 2020 12:01:13 -0600
From: "Vince Fiscus, KB7ADL" <vlfiscus@???.???>
To: Amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] FT-736 power supply part.
Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20200808114739.0213e500@???.?????????.???>
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At 12:06 PM 8/8/2020 -0400, you wrote:
>Your request for info on that part made me look at the parts list I have
>had for close to 20 years.
>I don't think I ever used it for capacitor info as it was always available
>on the capacitor.
>I see my information (provided by another ham) isn't accurate on some of
>the caps.
>It is also possible the info was correct for the P.S. he had, as Yaesu
>changed many things on the
>736 and didn't document them all.
>
>Looks like I can't totally trust the parts list....sorry
>
>? 73
>Richard / K4RTS


Hi Richard,
No problem.  C24 isn't ceramic.  I've been studying
the components on that side of the schematic to see what other
component could have failed to cause the SCR to blow. If C24
got hot and shorted, I wonder if that could have done it.

The 736 is in fine shape, I hooked it to an external supply
and current draw was normal.   The bad part of all this
is that my eyesight is not as good as it was 25 years ago. :-)

73



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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2020 19:07:02 +0000 (UTC)
From: GEO Badger <w3ab@?????.???>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] ONE INDIVIDUAL'S VIEW
Message-ID: <1782349383.1932031.1596913622083@????.?????.???>
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Hello,

I was born the eldest of four into a?prosperous WASP familyin southern Cali.
I?squandered pretty much every opportunity?given tome, a West Point
appointment, a scholarship to Virginia Tech, those sortsof?things. We moved
a lot so I never really developed any long termfriendships. I received
many?"citations? during my four years inthe?military. However, those where
not the kind?you wear on youruniform, they were Article?15's of the Uniform
Code of Military?Justice.I wasn't at the "appointed place at the appointed
time". I chafe atauthority.

Upon my honorable discharge from the?military I returned toCali and pretty
much?lived as a 1%'er for a few years. In 1980?SiliconValley called and I
went to work as?a design engineer to VP of Engineeringfor a number of tech
firms?in the valley. They included TeledyneMEC,?M/A-COM, ThermoFisher
Scientific and MBARI?among others.

During that time I became a pillar in the?community, whoknew, and was, and
still am,?involved with non-profits, all501(c)(3)?orgs. Additionally, my
wife, MBA in Non-Profit Management fromthe Anderson School?of UCLA, has been
intimately involved in all?aspectsof non-profits. She is currently?assisting
Burning Man in its transitionfrom a?LLC to a 501(c)(3). This has been
a?difficult process fraughtwith politics and?leadership issues. Hmmm.

Now, about Amsat: Amsat is not a?corporation. It has nocompensated
senior?management, it doesn't issue stock and it can't?besold, taken over or
merged. What Amsat is; a club chartered/incorporated underthe?articles of
501(c) paragraph 3 which?stipulates that it can be aneducational?org.
Donations can be deducted from the donor?s?taxes. A(7) is a social club?and
donations may not be deducted. You've no?doubtheard of political
non-profits, the?donations to them may not be deductedbut?they are used to
shield where their money?that they distributecomes from.

Amsat was chartered in 1969 and IMHO the?by-laws are out ofdate. The
mission?statement and by-laws need to be revamped.?Thereneeds to be more
members on the BOD.?The served terms should be 3 years.There?should be term
limits so current members?rotate off. Thisinsures there is no?entrenchment
of an "old guard" and thereis?an infusion of new ideas and talent.

?Is Amateur Radio growing? I have no idea,?nor does anyoneelse. Is Amsat
growing??Same. The satellite biz has changed?dramatically.It has become VERY
commercialized. I posted an email from a knowledgeable?outsideobserver a
while back that discussed?this.

?Is there anyone on the BOD or within the GM,?who can pick upa phone and
make a personal?call to Jeff Bezos, Dmitry Rogozin,Richard?Branson, Elon
Musk, Hiroshi Yamakawa, Jim?Bridenstine, orZhang Kejian? I hesitate to?guess
that the answer is "No",though I?threw a ringer in there. These are all
young people who wereprobably born after 1969.

?How does Amsat move forward? Amsat needs to?have a dynamicBOD who operates
in a fair,?honest and open manner and is willing to?revampthe mission
statement and by-laws to?reflect an exciting organizationfocused
on?education. The GM needs to be invited to BOD meetings and seethe results
of said?meetings. By meeting with any/all of the?aboveindividuals, Amsat can
show them that?the club is providing the interestand?educational directions
for young people to?become the newengineers/scientists that?these space
organizations are going to?requireto be viable in the future.

?BTW, status quo, anger, personal attacks?and/or the airing ofdirty laundry
is the?antithesis to Amsat moving forward.

?Just sayin??..

---??
 Ciao baby, catch you on the flip side??
73 de W3AB/GEO ???

 http://www.w3ab.org

You can say "over", you can say "out", you just can't say "over and out".

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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2020 20:17:59 +0000 (UTC)
From: Robert Bankston <ke4al@?????.???>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] ONE INDIVIDUAL'S VIEW
Message-ID: <1536964495.1941152.1596917879732@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

AMSAT, formally known as the Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation, is a
nonprofit corporation, pursuant to the District of Columbia Non-profit
Corporation Act.
??
AMSAT was organized as an exempt organization under section 501(c)(3) of the
Internal Revenue Code, exclusively for scientific purposes.? It was not
organized as nor does it operate as a club or an educational organization.
??
Furthermore, there is no legal requirement for a nonprofit corporation to
issue shares or have compensated management.
??
To say otherwise is completely false!
??
AMSAT does have a dynamic Board of Directors, and it does operate in a fair,
honest, and open manner.? The few members who state otherwise are being
disengenuous for their own political purpose.? The few others are only
parroting what they have been told.
??
You are correct that the space industry has changed dramatically, due in
part to AMSAT's success with smallsats.? These changes have brought both
regulatory and economic challenges for AMSAT.? Our Directors are well aware
of this and have not only been steadfastly working to keep amateur radio in
space, but, also, push the envelope of scientific discovery.
??
AMSAT is on the right path.? Through it's GOLF Program, they are working to
allow us to return to HEO.? Yes, we have been there before, but not under
the current regulatory environment.? In addition, GOLF satellites will
include SDR technologies and microwave experimentation.
??
I am excited about AMSAT's future, and, judging by our steady growth in
membership, so is everyone else.

Robert Bankston, KE4AL



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Message: 9
Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2020 17:00:06 -0700
From: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@????.???>
To: ans@?????.???? AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] ANS-222 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins
Message-ID:
<CABzOSOpRFEug-rM8WkuvrsceF0YP-OagLUWQ85311hu_n0qjNA@????.?????.???>
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AMSAT NEWS SERVICE
ANS-222

The AMSAT News Service bulletins are a free, weekly news and infor-
mation service of AMSAT, The Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation. ANS
publishes news related to Amateur Radio in Space including reports on
the activities of a worldwide group of Amateur Radio operators who
share an active interest in designing, building, launching and commun-
icating through analog and digital Amateur Radio satellites.

The news feed on http://www.amsat.org publishes news of Amateur
Radio in Space as soon as our volunteers can post it.

Please send any amateur satellite news or reports to:
ans-editor at amsat.org.

You can sign up for free e-mail delivery of the AMSAT News Service
Bulletins via the ANS List; to join this list see:
http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/ans



In this edition:

* German Satellite Demonstrates Orbit Control on 1U CubeSat
* AMSAT CubeSat Simulator Now Transmits SSTV
* AMSAT-UK OSCAR Satellite QSO Party Ongoing
* Hamfests, Conventions, Maker Faires, and Other Events
* Upcoming Satellite Operations
* Satellite Shorts from All Over


SB SAT @ AMSAT $ANS-222.01
ANS-222 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins

AMSAT News Service Bulletin 208.01
 From AMSAT HQ KENSINGTON, MD.
DATE August 9, 2020
To All RADIO AMATEURS
BID: $ANS-222.01

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         Due to the COVID-19 pandemic, the AMSAT office
    is closed until further notice. For details, please visit
  https://www.amsat.org/amsat-office-closed-until-further-notice/

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German Satellite Demonstrates Orbit Control on 1U CubeSat

The University of Wuerzburg Experimental Satellite 4 (UWE-4) success-
fully used its propulsion system in order to conduct orbit control.
The 1-unit (1U) CubeSat is equipped with an electric propulsion system
called NanoFEEP, developed by the Technical University in Dresden.
This marks the first time in CubeSat history that a 1U CubeSat has
changed its orbit using an onboard propulsion system. Several man-
euvers were performed within 11 days, between June 23 and July 3,
lowering the CubeSat's altitude by more than 100 meters (328 feet),
compared to an average of 21 meters (69 feet) with natural orbital
decay.

Coincidentally, on July 2, the UWE-4 team received a "conjunction data
message" from the US Air Force, indicating a potential safety threat
from a non-operational Iridium satellite, although UWE-4 was already
below the Iridium satellite at the projected time of conjunction.

Lowering the altitude of a spacecraft in low-Earth orbit (LEO) has the
negative effect of reducing its lifetime, because low-Earth-orbiting
(LEO) satellites usually burn up during re-entry. "Thus, this exper-
iment is a concept demonstration of a deorbiting maneuver shown at the
smallest class of spacecraft in LEO," the university said.

While satellites are not yet required to carry propulsion systems to
facilitate a planned deorbiting, such an obligation is under serious
discussion, due to the vastly increasing number of satellites in mega
constellations. "The experiment of UWE-4 presents a deorbiting sol-
ution for the fraction of space debris of operational, but unused,
satellites of today and for the mega constellations of tomorrow," the
university said. AMSAT notes that US regulations make the ability to
deorbit a requirement for high-Earth-orbit amateur satellites in the
future.

The first activation of the NanoFEEP thruster on UWE-4 took place in
early 2019. UWE-4 transmits telemetry on 435.600 MHz.

[ANS thanks the ARRL for the above information]

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           Purchase AMSAT Gear on our Zazzle storefront.
          25% of the purchase price of each product goes
            towards Keeping Amateur Radio in Space
              https://www.zazzle.com/amsat_gear

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AMSAT CubeSat Simulator Now Transmits SSTV

Did you have fun receiving SSTV images from the ISS this past week?
A new development branch of the AMSAT CubeSat Simulator now transmits
SSTV images! See https://github.com/alanbjohnston/CubeSatSim/tree/dev
for details.

A video of FlatSat testing can be found at:
https://twitter.com/CubeSatSim/status/1291493708488232964

More information about the AMSAT CubeSat Simulator project can be
found at http://cubesatsim.com/


[ANS thanks Alan Johnston, KU2Y, AMSAT Vice President - Educational
Relatioons, for the above information]

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AMSAT's GOLF Program is about getting back to higher orbits, and it
all begins with GOLF-TEE ? a technology demonstrator for deployable
solar panels, propulsion, and attitude control. Come along for the
ride. The journey will be worth it!

                  https://tinyurl.com/ANS-GOLF

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AMSAT-UK OSCAR Satellite QSO Party Ongoing

The objective of the AMSAT-UK OSCAR Satellite QSO Party is to
encourage all radio amateurs around the world to get on the air and
make contacts via satellites during northern hemisphere summer. We
would like to attract both seasoned die-hard operators as well as all
newcomers who are just getting involved.

While points are given per QSO this isn?t a contest, but we hope it
will encourage people to get on the air and enjoy the excitement of
making contacts through satellites.

The AMSAT-UK OSCAR Satellite QSO Party will be supported by an online
leaderboard which will be available from the start of the event which
runs from 00:00 GMT on 1st August until 23:59 GMT on 22nd September.

Prizes will be awarded to those from first to thirteenth place and
are open to both AMSAT-UK and non-members around the world.

? First Place ?250 Amazon Voucher
? Second Place ?150 Amazon Voucher
? Third Place ?50 Amazon Voucher
? Fourth to Thirteenth Place One Year AMSAT-UK Membership

Download the rules for the AMSAT-UK OSCAR QSO Party at
https://tinyurl.com/OSCAR-QSO-Party

Leaderboard https://leaderboard.amsat-uk.org/

[ANS thanks AMSAT-UK for the above information]

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Hamfests, Conventions, Maker Faires, and Other Events

Want to see AMSAT in action or learn more about amateur radio in
space?

AMSAT Ambassadors provide presentations, demonstrate communicating
through amateur satellites, and host information tables at club
meetings, hamfests, conventions, maker faires, and other events.

Due to COVID-19, many hamfest and events around the United States have
been canceled or postponed. While we make every effort to ensure the
information contained below is correct, there may be some that we
missed.

QSO Today Virtual Ham Expo - August 9, 2020
Tom Schuessler, N5HYP, will present "Getting Started with Amateur
Radio Satellites" at 22:45 UTC. Details on accessing this presentation
at https://www.qsotodayhamexpo.com/.


[ANS thanks Robert Bankston, KE4AL, AMSAT Vice President - User
Services, for the above information]

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    Need new satellite antennas? Purchase Arrows, Alaskan Arrows,
   and M2 LEO-Packs from the AMSAT Store. When you purchase through
          AMSAT, a portion of the proceeds goes towards
                 Keeping Amateur Radio in Space.
           https://amsat.org/product-category/hardware/

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Upcoming Satellite Operations

Misc Items:
Do you need Hawaii? NH7WN on AO-7 Most days. Reach out for a schedule

Quick Hits:
EM50, EM51 8/8 ? 8/9 @?????? is heading home to MS!
DM59, 8/8 ? 8/10, @?????? (Sorry AK7DD): FM and Linear. Maybe even the
58/59 gridline.
EM22, EM23, 8/10/20 @?????? heading out for a mint rove!
DM97/98 & EM08/09, 8/29 & 8/30: Super Rover @????? is heading out for
the Kansas QSO party and N0E. More to come.

Major Roves:
@?????? is heading out again for the South Dakota Super Rove Part II
Grids DN73, DN82, DN83, DN92, DN93, EN02, EN03, EN12, EN24, and EN25.
August 17th through August 21st.

EA8, CANARY ISLANDS (Reminder/Satellite Op/Rare Grid). Philippe,
EA4NF, will be operating on the satellites from Lanzarote Island,
Canary Islands (AF-004, WW Loc. IL38 & IL39), as EA8/EA4NF between
August 10-17th. A special focus will be from the very rare IL39 Grid.
Portable activation will be with a FT818 and a FT817ND operating in
full Duplex with an Alaskan Arrow Antenna. Activity will be on the FM
and Linear Satellites. QSL via LoTW as EA8/EA4NF. Keep an eye on
Philippe's Twitter feed for further updates and passes at:
https://twitter.com/EA4NF_SAT

(Via the Ohio/Penn DX Bulletin #1475)

Please submit any additions or corrections to ke0pbr at gmail.com

[ANS thanks Paul Overn, KE0PBR, for the above information]

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   AMSAT, along with our ARISS partners, is developing an amateur
   radio package, including two-way communication capability, to
           be carried on-board Gateway in lunar orbit.

   Support AMSAT's projects today at https://www.amsat.org/donate/

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Satellite Shorts From All Over

+ AMSAT Vice President - Engineering Jerry Buxton, N0JY, was the
keynote speaker at the IEEE Microwave Theory and Techniques Society's
International Microwave Symposium's Amateur Radio Social on August 4.
If video from the event is made public, it will be shared via AMSAT
social media and ANS.

+ Burns Fisher, WB1FJ, AMSAT Engineering, will deliver two
presentations at the AMSAT South Africa Symposium on August 22, 2020.
The virtual event will take place between 08:00 - 13:00 UTC. Attendees
may register at http://www.amsatsa.org.za/.

+ Several new products are available on the AMSAT Zazzle store,
including a set of coasters, a watch, a t-shirt featuring the AMSAT
round logo, and more. Check out the new items! 25% of the purchase
price goes towards Keeping Amateur Radio in Space.

+ AMSAT Remove Before Flight keychains are again available on the
AMSAT store. Purchases help Keep Amateur Radio in Space!
https://www.amsat.org/product/amsat-remove-before-flight-keychain/

+ Ballots for the 2020 AMSAT Board of Directors election were mailed
on July 14th via presorted standard mail to US addresses and via first
class mail to overseas addresses to all members in good standing as of
July 1st. Members desiring a replacement ballot package should contact
AMSAT Secretary Brennan Price, N4QX, at brennanprice@???????.??? no
earlier than August 12th. AMSAT members may log on to the membership
portal at launch.amsat.org to verify that their address was correct as
of July 1st. (via N4QX)

+ All issues of The AMSAT Journal dating back to 2014 are now
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Message: 10
Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2020 22:15:38 -0700
From: Bruce Perens <bruce@??????.???>
To: Robert Bankston <ke4al@?????.???>, Robert Bankston
<ke4al@?????.???>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Is AMSAT an educational organization?
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Robert Bankston says no. But IARU says yes! From
https://www.iaru.org/on-the-air/satellites/
"AMSAT: The Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation was first formed in the USA
in 1969 as an educational organisation".

Hmm. Is there anything to that?

The bylaws submitted with the articles of incorporation of AMSAT say
"exclusively for scientific purposes", but right after that, they say "B.
Encouraging development of skills and the advancement of specialized
knowledge in the art and practice of amateur radio communications and space
science."

That is very definitely an educational mission.

What AMSAT is _not_ is an accredited institution of higher learning, or any
other form of school that would require licensing, certification, or
accreditation. But it is educational. Surprise :-)

The rest of your message, Robert, is more denial than argument. I will
address it if you can muster a cogent argument.

Thanks

Bruce


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