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Today's Topics:
1. Another call for forensic accounting and an inventory (Jeff Johns)
2. new computer doesn't see Keyspan adapters (Perry Yantis)
3. Re: Is AMSAT an educational organization? (Joseph Armbruster)
4. Re: Another call for forensic accounting and an inventory
(Joseph Armbruster)
5. Re: new computer doesn't see Keyspan adapters (Rick Walter)
6. Re: Another call for forensic accounting and an inventory
(Jeff Davis)
7. Re: Is AMSAT an educational organization? (Robert MacHale)
8. Re: Is AMSAT an educational organization? (Sloan Davis)
9. Re: Is AMSAT an educational organization? (Greg)
10. Re: new computer doesn't see Keyspan adapters (Don KB2YSI)
11. Re: new computer doesn't see Keyspan adapters (kb2mjeff@???.????
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2020 02:23:45 -0500
From: Jeff Johns <jeff30339@?????.???>
To: AMSAT <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Another call for forensic accounting and an
inventory
Message-ID: <C3556335-437A-4250-A1AB-DBBEFB424CCF@?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
About 24 hours ago I asked if the legacy BoD members and Officer which are
running against me during this election cycle would join me to call for a
full forensic accounting of AMSAT?s finances.
The call to ask them to step-up and help ease the minds of many members was
not answered. Why? It could be a myriad of things but because they will not
(so far) step forward and help promote financial transparency is very
disturbing. If there is nothing astray, then there would be nothing to worry
about other than the cost for a third-party to perform the audit.
I will once again ask them if they are willing to move forward a motion to
authorize a forensic audit of AMSAT?s finances. Along with this audit, a
full inventory of all AMSAT assets should be performed. Can any BoD member
tell us, the general membership, the last time an inventory was performed? I
can?t find anything in any minutes that are published. It?s good business
practice to perform inventories. The Treasurer, as a CPA, should be very
familiar with inventory practices in business. AMSAT is a business, albeit
non-profit. An inventory of physical assets would go a long way to helping
to heal AMSAT by removing the cloud.
Regardless of who wins this election, there will still be a cloud over AMSAT
regarding the handling of members? monies until an independent source
provides an authoritative summary of both AMSAT?s finances and physical
assets.
If elected, I would make the motion to have this occur in order to ease the
minds of members and donors. This needs to happen regardless of who wins
seats and I would ask all members to encourage the Board to make this happen.
Jeff WE4B
http://we4bravo.com
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2020 11:18:38 +0000 (UTC)
From: Perry Yantis <py41@???.???>
To: Amsat bb <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] new computer doesn't see Keyspan adapters
Message-ID: <95380976.1486341.1596971918772@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
I have purchased a new MacBook Pro computer running Mac OS 10.15.6 with
USB-C portsIt is just like my old MacBook Pro computer with USB-A ports,
running the same OS except while my older computer sees my Keyspan usb to
serial adaptors and gives me radio and antenna control, my new computer
doesn't see these adaptors for some reason.I have went to Keyspans web page
and downloaded a newer driver but still not seeing these adaptors.Does
anyone else have this problem or have a solution?I will try calling Keyspan
tomorrow.
Perry WB8OTH
py41@???.???
sent from my Apple Macbook Pro
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2020 08:07:29 -0400
From: Joseph Armbruster <josepharmbruster@?????.???>
To: Bruce Perens <bruce@??????.???>
Cc: Robert Bankston <ke4al@?????.???>, AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Is AMSAT an educational organization?
Message-ID:
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Bruce,
When people get together to start a club, let's say for woodworking or any
other craft, they likely have some gear, have some outreach taking place,
are up to doing some good and probably end up doing it because people ask
them to set up a charity so they can donate to it (for $ reasons). That,
and maybe because it is easier to rent space, get insurance, for
activities, etc... When most groups go to set up an entity like this, the
Articles of Incorporation, Bylaws, and all the legal documents are usually
drafted quickly, just to get it going, without a serious amount of thought
given to the problems that can occur. Because, at the time, it's usually a
group of people that are already working really well together, getting
along and they just want to spend the minimum amount of $ to get it done.
That's what I imagine at least. Unlike, say, what lots of companies do,
putting up a ton of capital in to make sure every i is dotted and t is
crossed and every path of the corporate/social decision tree of chaos is
accounted for (like having codes of conduct and anti-discrimination rules
written up that noone ever actually reads but are just there to be used to
defend the business in-the-event-of-some-issue). Because unfortunately in
the business world there are people out there, on a mission to explicitly
screw everyone over. I do not see what cherry-picking on all this really
matters in AMSATs case. Does it somehow?
I think it's an entirely scientific practice to share your experiences and
findings with others. It's above my pay grade to determine whether that's
education out of Websters dictionary or the proper noun of Education out of
the wizard-of-smart dictionary or defined term in some legal document.
Joseph Armbruster
KJ4JIO
On Sun, Aug 9, 2020 at 1:18 AM Bruce Perens via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
wrote:
> Robert Bankston says no. But IARU says yes! From
> https://www.iaru.org/on-the-air/satellites/
> "AMSAT: The Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation was first formed in the USA
> in 1969 as an educational organisation".
>
> Hmm. Is there anything to that?
>
> The bylaws submitted with the articles of incorporation of AMSAT say
> "exclusively for scientific purposes", but right after that, they say "B.
> Encouraging development of skills and the advancement of specialized
> knowledge in the art and practice of amateur radio communications and space
> science."
>
> That is very definitely an educational mission.
>
> What AMSAT is _not_ is an accredited institution of higher learning, or any
> other form of school that would require licensing, certification, or
> accreditation. But it is educational. Surprise :-)
>
> The rest of your message, Robert, is more denial than argument. I will
> address it if you can muster a cogent argument.
>
> Thanks
>
> Bruce
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2020 09:07:13 -0400
From: Joseph Armbruster <josepharmbruster@?????.???>
To: Jeff Johns <jeff30339@?????.???>
Cc: AMSAT <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Another call for forensic accounting and an
inventory
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Jeff,
About 24 hours ago, you sent an email to a public bulletin board... . . . .
. . . . Noone on the BOD, in their right mind, is going to respond to a
request like this on here. And that's what I would call a 'good business
practice'. Especially with the gray cloud hanging over AMSAT that has been
throwing lots of lightning bolts its direction lately. Either way, it
looks like they have their form 990's posted to amsat.org, ref:
https://www.amsat.org/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/AMSAT_2019_Form990.
pdf
When it comes to a forensic audit of an organization, I don't think you
really comprehend the magnitude of that effort. Let's consider a very
simple case. Say some AMSAT engineer (using AMSAT funds), purchased a pack
of current limiters for $5.00 and sent them to someone at location A on one
side of the US. They probably ordered a few extras, because sometimes
things go wrong. Then, they did their work and the rest were sitting on
the bench. Then, maybe someone else on the other side of the US needed
some. So, the member that had them, decided to (on their own dime) ship
them to the other location (rather than having AMSAT foot the bill, because
it can take time), so they were sent off to complete whatever project.
Now, maybe there's a couple left at the new location, but not enough to
justify actually shipping them to anyone. So right now, they are sitting
on someone's shelf, waiting for the next need to arise. What you're asking
for is spending the time, energy and effort on determining when they were
purchased, who purchased them, who they were sent to, asking individuals to
sift through emails so they can maybe recall where something was sent,
etc... And, for how many years do you want to look back? I run my own
business, have a lathe/mill/laser out in my garage with a bunch of tools
that are company property... and if you asked me to find one of my business
screwdrivers out there, I could... but it may take me a couple hours to
find the Exact one.... and that's in my own garage, 10 feet away from where
i'm sitting. I would literally be screwed!
What's the end-game here, really? Besides casting doubt in the
membership? What do members need their minds put at ease about....
specifically? And, be Specific. If you wanted to forensically audit some
individual situation, that's one thing... but if you're going to push for a
forensic audit of finances and all physical assets, over the years, what
you're really doing is signing everyone up for a pile of wasted time and
money, because that's going to take forever and cost a pile! Think about
all the individual components that have been ordered over time and all the
places they had to go. Think of all the hardware or components with
defects that were chucked into wastebins due to defects... The ends should
justify the means.
Good luck,
Joseph Armbruster
KJ4JIO
On Sun, Aug 9, 2020 at 3:25 AM Jeff Johns via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
wrote:
> About 24 hours ago I asked if the legacy BoD members and Officer which are
> running against me during this election cycle would join me to call for a
> full forensic accounting of AMSAT?s finances.
>
> The call to ask them to step-up and help ease the minds of many members
> was not answered. Why? It could be a myriad of things but because they will
> not (so far) step forward and help promote financial transparency is very
> disturbing. If there is nothing astray, then there would be nothing to
> worry about other than the cost for a third-party to perform the audit.
>
> I will once again ask them if they are willing to move forward a motion to
> authorize a forensic audit of AMSAT?s finances. Along with this audit, a
> full inventory of all AMSAT assets should be performed. Can any BoD member
> tell us, the general membership, the last time an inventory was performed?
> I can?t find anything in any minutes that are published. It?s good business
> practice to perform inventories. The Treasurer, as a CPA, should be very
> familiar with inventory practices in business. AMSAT is a business, albeit
> non-profit. An inventory of physical assets would go a long way to helping
> to heal AMSAT by removing the cloud.
>
> Regardless of who wins this election, there will still be a cloud over
> AMSAT regarding the handling of members? monies until an independent source
> provides an authoritative summary of both AMSAT?s finances and physical
> assets.
>
> If elected, I would make the motion to have this occur in order to ease
> the minds of members and donors. This needs to happen regardless of who
> wins seats and I would ask all members to encourage the Board to make this
> happen.
>
> Jeff WE4B
> http://we4bravo.com
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
------------------------------
Message: 5
Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2020 09:23:41 -0400
From: Rick Walter <wb3csy@?????.???>
To: Perry Yantis <py41@???.???>
Cc: Amsat bb <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] new computer doesn't see Keyspan adapters
Message-ID: <54C69E97-F9D4-4FE4-88E9-F9E15E21A8F3@?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Hi Perry. I was running Windows 7 on a laptop and used a USB to serial
adapter without any problems. Upgraded to Win 10 and everything went flaky
controlling my radio for the sats using SATPC32. Changed to a new adapter
with a more modern chip set and all is well again.
I am thinking even though you are running a Mac, Apple like Windows figures
they are dumping the old chip sets in their OS.
73,
Rick
Sent from Rick's iPhone 6S
"Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre
minds" - Albert Einstein
"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic" -
Arthur C. Clarke
"Klaatu Barada Nikto" - The Day the Earth Stood Still
"I have been, and always shall be, your friend" - Spock
> On Aug 9, 2020, at 7:20 AM, Perry Yantis via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
wrote:
>
> ?I have purchased a new MacBook Pro computer running Mac OS 10.15.6 with
USB-C portsIt is just like my old MacBook Pro computer with USB-A ports,
running the same OS except while my older computer sees my Keyspan usb to
serial adaptors and gives me radio and antenna control, my new computer
doesn't see these adaptors for some reason.I have went to Keyspans web page
and downloaded a newer driver but still not seeing these adaptors.Does
anyone else have this problem or have a solution?I will try calling Keyspan
tomorrow.
> Perry WB8OTH
>
> py41@???.???
> sent from my Apple Macbook Pro
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
------------------------------
Message: 6
Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2020 09:43:12 -0400
From: Jeff Davis <ke9v@???.???>
To: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Another call for forensic accounting and an
inventory
Message-ID: <3F76CF36-F5B2-43B1-A66F-6B2FC0F5A09E@???.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> On Aug 9, 2020, at 3:23 AM, Jeff Johns via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
wrote:
>
> The call to ask them to step-up and help ease the minds of many members
was not answered. Why? It could be a myriad of things but because they will
not (so far) step forward and help promote financial transparency is very
disturbing. If there is nothing astray, then there would be nothing to worry
about other than the cost for a third-party to perform the audit.
Yes. I see the ?plot? clearly now. A few grifters decided the best way to
get ?rich" was to join a ham radio organization. They would lay low for
10-30 years so as not to arouse suspicion. They would volunteer their time
and efforts for decades to provide an smokescreen so other members wouldn?t
suspect that they would one day steal money and inventory from the coffers
and then refuse to provide a detailed accounting when requested?
Jeff, KE9V
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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2020 13:51:53 +0000 (UTC)
From: Robert MacHale <robert.machale@?????.???>
To: Robert Bankston <ke4al@?????.???>, Robert Bankston
<ke4al@?????.???>, Bruce Perens <bruce@??????.???>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Is AMSAT an educational organization?
Message-ID: <53809664.2119502.1596981113543@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
At a glance, AMSAT should have three legs:
1) Education Outreach
2) Industrial Technology
3) Member Services
Perhaps the Board should be stacked in this proportion with advocates from
each of these three legs.
The phrase?"exclusively for scientific purposes" is hopefully intended to
aim for noble purposes that exclude for-profit monetization of technology
and patent trolling.
73
BTW, patience is a virtue. Personal attacks are not. Better to debate ideas
- not personalities.
Robert MacHale
. KE6BLR FCC Licensed Radio Operator?
.?http://www.aprsat.com/predict
.?http://www.spaceCommunicator.club?
. Supporting Boy Scout Merit Badges in Radio, Robotics, and Space Exploration
Silly Joke:?What did the little mountain say to the bigger mountain? Hi Cliff!
He who dares not offend cannot be honest. -- THOMAS PAINE
There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow men. True nobility
lies in being superior to your former self. -- ERNEST HEMINGWAY
On Saturday, August 8, 2020, 10:18:47 PM PDT, Bruce Perens via AMSAT-BB
<amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
Robert Bankston says no. But IARU says yes! From
https://www.iaru.org/on-the-air/satellites/
"AMSAT: The Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation was first formed in the USA
in 1969 as an educational organisation".
Hmm. Is there anything to that?
The bylaws submitted with the articles of incorporation of AMSAT say
"exclusively for scientific purposes", but right after that, they say "B.
Encouraging development of skills and the advancement of specialized
knowledge in the art and practice of amateur radio communications and space
science."
That is very definitely an educational mission.
What AMSAT is _not_ is an accredited institution of higher learning, or any
other form of school that would require licensing, certification, or
accreditation. But it is educational. Surprise :-)
The rest of your message, Robert, is more denial than argument. I will
address it if you can muster a cogent argument.
Thanks
Bruce
_______________________________________________
Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
------------------------------
Message: 8
Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2020 10:19:09 -0400
From: Sloan Davis <blkupspilot@???.???>
To: Robert MacHale <robert.machale@?????.???>
Cc: Robert Bankston <ke4al@?????.???>, AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Is AMSAT an educational organization?
Message-ID: <C430E788-44B7-4330-8712-266A8C934D6E@???.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
The most intelligent response I?ve seen yet. Well stated Robert!
Sloan
> On Aug 9, 2020, at 9:53 AM, Robert MacHale via AMSAT-BB
<amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>
> ?At a glance, AMSAT should have three legs:
>
> 1) Education Outreach
> 2) Industrial Technology
> 3) Member Services
>
> Perhaps the Board should be stacked in this proportion with advocates from
each of these three legs.
>
> The phrase "exclusively for scientific purposes" is hopefully intended to
aim for noble purposes that exclude for-profit monetization of technology
and patent trolling.
>
> 73
>
> BTW, patience is a virtue. Personal attacks are not. Better to debate
ideas - not personalities.
>
> Robert MacHale
> . KE6BLR FCC Licensed Radio Operator
> . http://www.aprsat.com/predict
> . http://www.spaceCommunicator.club
> . Supporting Boy Scout Merit Badges in Radio, Robotics, and Space
Exploration
> Silly Joke: What did the little mountain say to the bigger mountain? Hi
Cliff!
> He who dares not offend cannot be honest. -- THOMAS PAINE
>
> There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow men. True nobility
lies in being superior to your former self. -- ERNEST HEMINGWAY
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Saturday, August 8, 2020, 10:18:47 PM PDT, Bruce Perens via AMSAT-BB
<amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Robert Bankston says no. But IARU says yes! From
> https://www.iaru.org/on-the-air/satellites/
> "AMSAT: The Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation was first formed in the USA
> in 1969 as an educational organisation".
>
> Hmm. Is there anything to that?
>
> The bylaws submitted with the articles of incorporation of AMSAT say
> "exclusively for scientific purposes", but right after that, they say "B.
> Encouraging development of skills and the advancement of specialized
> knowledge in the art and practice of amateur radio communications and space
> science."
>
> That is very definitely an educational mission.
>
> What AMSAT is _not_ is an accredited institution of higher learning, or any
> other form of school that would require licensing, certification, or
> accreditation. But it is educational. Surprise :-)
>
> The rest of your message, Robert, is more denial than argument. I will
> address it if you can muster a cogent argument.
>
> Thanks
>
> Bruce
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
------------------------------
Message: 9
Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2020 10:21:52 -0400
From: Greg <almetco@???????.???>
To: Sloan Davis <blkupspilot@???.???>
Cc: Robert Bankston <ke4al@?????.???>, AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Is AMSAT an educational organization?
Message-ID: <FE08A191-3C96-492E-9043-56B688EE9931@???????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Actually a very good idea.
Greg
N3MVF
On Aug 9, 2020, at 10:19 AM, Sloan Davis via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
wrote:
The most intelligent response I?ve seen yet. Well stated Robert!
Sloan
> On Aug 9, 2020, at 9:53 AM, Robert MacHale via AMSAT-BB
<amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>
> ?At a glance, AMSAT should have three legs:
>
> 1) Education Outreach
> 2) Industrial Technology
> 3) Member Services
>
> Perhaps the Board should be stacked in this proportion with advocates from
each of these three legs.
>
> The phrase "exclusively for scientific purposes" is hopefully intended to
aim for noble purposes that exclude for-profit monetization of technology
and patent trolling.
>
> 73
>
> BTW, patience is a virtue. Personal attacks are not. Better to debate
ideas - not personalities.
>
> Robert MacHale
> . KE6BLR FCC Licensed Radio Operator
> . http://www.aprsat.com/predict
> . http://www.spaceCommunicator.club
> . Supporting Boy Scout Merit Badges in Radio, Robotics, and Space
Exploration
> Silly Joke: What did the little mountain say to the bigger mountain? Hi
Cliff!
> He who dares not offend cannot be honest. -- THOMAS PAINE
>
> There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow men. True nobility
lies in being superior to your former self. -- ERNEST HEMINGWAY
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Saturday, August 8, 2020, 10:18:47 PM PDT, Bruce Perens via AMSAT-BB
<amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Robert Bankston says no. But IARU says yes! From
> https://www.iaru.org/on-the-air/satellites/
> "AMSAT: The Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation was first formed in the USA
> in 1969 as an educational organisation".
>
> Hmm. Is there anything to that?
>
> The bylaws submitted with the articles of incorporation of AMSAT say
> "exclusively for scientific purposes", but right after that, they say "B.
> Encouraging development of skills and the advancement of specialized
> knowledge in the art and practice of amateur radio communications and space
> science."
>
> That is very definitely an educational mission.
>
> What AMSAT is _not_ is an accredited institution of higher learning, or any
> other form of school that would require licensing, certification, or
> accreditation. But it is educational. Surprise :-)
>
> The rest of your message, Robert, is more denial than argument. I will
> address it if you can muster a cogent argument.
>
> Thanks
>
> Bruce
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
_______________________________________________
Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
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Message: 10
Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2020 10:50:40 -0400
From: Don KB2YSI <kb2ysi@?????.???>
To: Perry Yantis <py41@???.???>
Cc: Amsat bb <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] new computer doesn't see Keyspan adapters
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Make sure you grabbed the correct version, likely a beta for the newest
version of OSX.
Where did you get the USB-B to USB-C cable? It possibly could be a power
only cable.
In Terminal, do: ls -l, and see if the device is there. I think it has
keyspan in the name but it has been a while since I have looked at one in
the Terminal. I can double check when I get to my work computer.
On Sun, Aug 9, 2020, 07:20 Perry Yantis via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
wrote:
> I have purchased a new MacBook Pro computer running Mac OS 10.15.6 with
> USB-C portsIt is just like my old MacBook Pro computer with USB-A ports,
> running the same OS except while my older computer sees my Keyspan usb to
> serial adaptors and gives me radio and antenna control, my new computer
> doesn't see these adaptors for some reason.I have went to Keyspans web page
> and downloaded a newer driver but still not seeing these adaptors.Does
> anyone else have this problem or have a solution?I will try calling Keyspan
> tomorrow.
> Perry WB8OTH
>
> py41@???.???
> sent from my Apple Macbook Pro
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Message: 11
Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2020 10:52:39 -0400
From: <kb2mjeff@???.???>
To: "'Perry Yantis'" <py41@???.???>
Cc: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] new computer doesn't see Keyspan adapters
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Or you could look online for the same down level drivers that work on your
old machine, then install them in the new machine. I've done that with my
windows based system's on occasion, rather then update the USB hardware
device...
73 Jeff kb2m
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From: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb-bounces@?????.???> On Behalf Of Rick Walter via
AMSAT-BB
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2020 9:24
To: Perry Yantis <py41@???.???>
Cc: Amsat bb <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] new computer doesn't see Keyspan adapters
Hi Perry. I was running Windows 7 on a laptop and used a USB to serial
adapter without any problems. Upgraded to Win 10 and everything went flaky
controlling my radio for the sats using SATPC32. Changed to a new adapter
with a more modern chip set and all is well again.
I am thinking even though you are running a Mac, Apple like Windows figures
they are dumping the old chip sets in their OS.
73,
Rick
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> On Aug 9, 2020, at 7:20 AM, Perry Yantis via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
wrote:
>
> ?I have purchased a new MacBook Pro computer running Mac OS 10.15.6 with
USB-C portsIt is just like my old MacBook Pro computer with USB-A ports,
running the same OS except while my older computer sees my Keyspan usb to
serial adaptors and gives me radio and antenna control, my new computer
doesn't see these adaptors for some reason.I have went to Keyspans web page
and downloaded a newer driver but still not seeing these adaptors.Does
anyone else have this problem or have a solution?I will try calling Keyspan
tomorrow.
> Perry WB8OTH
>
> py41@???.???
> sent from my Apple Macbook Pro
> _______________________________________________
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