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Today's Topics:

   1. Let?s talk satellites (Paul F. Merrill)
   2. Re: Hack-a-Sat finals this weekend - AMSAT volunteers
      represented! (Michelle Thompson)
   3. Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2020-08-10 16:00	UTC
      (aj9n@???.????
   4. Re: Another call for forensic accounting and an inventory
      (Chris Hoffman)
   5. Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2020-08-10 18:00	UTC
      (aj9n@???.????
   6. ME to HI for WAS--Possible at present? (Wes Baden)


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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2020 07:52:34 -0800
From: "Paul F. Merrill" <marinesvcs@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] Let?s talk satellites
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1) We need a separate mailing list for campaign issues in campaign season.
The back and forth is valuable because I?ve seen one candidate who I?m very
glad to not have voted for, more than one I can?t wait to vote against, and
clues as to the personal integrity of others.  Useful information, but it
doesn?t need to be diluting operational satellite conversations, mentoring,
and other useful information.

2) I?d throw a vote in for a different communication platform than this
legacy bbs format - apparently even very smart people who can get little
flying repeaters into orbit can?t understand how to trim their messages -
the digests and nearly unreadable when someone posts a three word comment
over 400 lines of nested emails.

3) For the pedants among us, yes...I know that I can view the threads in
the browser, but when I rejoined AMSAT earlier in the year, I was very
enthusiastic at how much useful information I gleaned from the daily
digests - lately...not so much.


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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2020 09:04:28 -0700
From: Michelle Thompson <mountain.michelle@?????.???>
To: Robert MacHale <robert.machale@?????.???>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Hack-a-Sat finals this weekend - AMSAT
volunteers	represented!
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What a weekend!

There were a lot of presentations on satellite technology and security this
year at DEF CON.

Here are two.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5XLmlm59As
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ku0Q_Wey4K0

The Hack-a-Sat competition finals were fundamentally different from the
qualifications. It was the equivalent of qualifying for a Formula 1 race,
and then being taken to a different track and given funny cars to drive
through an obstacle course on race day.

GNU Radio featured heavily in the qualifications, and those of us with
signals, coding theory, and satellite tracking experience were very busy.
The traditional info security team members had somewhat less to do.

For the finals, this was flipped. The challenges were linear, they were
heavily info-sec, everything depended on knowing how to use COSMOS, how to
write applications for core flight, how to get them into a VM and
manipulate memory in sneaky ways.

Most importantly for our team, there was a punishing aspect to the scoring.
As soon as any team solved any challenge, the points available started
deteriorating. Within 2 hours, that challenge was worth 0 points to all
other teams. We were too slow to capture many points. We ended up either
6th or 8th depending on how one interprets the rules (see below!).

This type of scoring, where teams that solve a challenge first get the max
number of points, and everyone else gets less, is common in these types of
competitions. However, it's very rare for the points value to go to zero so
quickly.

That means there's no score incentive to do a challenge that has decayed to
zero, but because the contest was linear, you still had to work on things
that had no score value.

I haven't run the numbers from a game theory perspective, but given the
number of hours the competition was live each day, it may be impossible to
overcome a leading team's early lead, given that you had to solve the
challenges in order.

This was somewhat of a disincentive and got a lot of discussion in our
after-contest meetup.

Another very interesting part was a challenge to design a set of mission
directives to point a satellite at the moon. This was announced as a binary
gate. If you solved it, your team would be considered for prizes. If you
did not solve it, then you were not eligible for prizes. Wow! Yikes!

Well, we solved it. Six teams solved it, two did not. However, the
announced rule did not appear to be enforced. Everyone kept their score.
The highest scoring team failed to do this "side quest".

Our team is not a permanent team. This is in contrast to almost all the
other teams we competed against. We formed for the event. We are now going
to stick together and try more competitions.

So, what's the significance of this team being in the finals?

We had 40 members total. Not everyone competed actively in the finals. From
looking at the Discord server, about 25 people actively competed in the
finals.
Half the team have their amateur radio license. More than half of the
finals participants were hams. A lot of satellite service enthusiasts!
Finals members were split between the US and Europe.
About 30% of the finals team were women.
Age range was 30s-50s.
We finished 4th out of 2000 in the semifinals.

What would have helped our score in the finals?

We knew enough about core flight services (cFS, open source, NASA) to be
helpful. But, not enough of us knew as much about COSMOS (software from
Ball Aerospace) to move quickly enough to be in the points. Paying closer
attention to the hints about COSMOS would have helped a lot.

We made things too hard by assuming things were more difficult than they
actually were. This is not uncommon in CTF competitions! It's easy to get
tunnel vision and not notice that the answer is already there.

We did extremely well in the on-orbit challenge (the pass/fail gate). We
nearly won this part. Another team just barely got ahead of us in terms of
accuracy. The prize for this part was for your mission plan to be put on a
real satellite, and an image of the moon taken using your code. We all
agreed that that was the best prize in the competition.

What did we learn?

Modern satellites require information security skills, networking skills,
memory management skills, and protocol and message passing interface
skills. Computing and digital technologies are a necessary area of
expertise.

Someone that understands the permissions and packet filters just a little
better than the satellite operator, can take out a satellite. It can be
very tricky to find out what is going on, or get it back under control.
Someone that modifies code just enough to waste more propellant than was
allocated, and can cover it up in the telemetry, can do more than just
annoy - they can render a satellite inoperable.

These are the things that the Air Force and other communities seem to be
worried about.

This was a great event and it looks like it will happen again. The top
scoring team was told they had a free "ticket" to enter the CTF finals next
year.

Amateur satellite service enthusiasts made a very strong showing and proved
to be among the best in the world at hacking a real satellite. The target
for the competition was made available to us beforehand as a flat sat, and
I'm going to try to arrange to have it brought to the next in-person
convention that we have in the community, so that people can see it!

I'm organizing the GNU Radio Conference "capture the flag" competition.
This will be held in September, and will have satellite content. The
experience with Hack-a-Sat has been a big inspiration. When GRCon in-person
was postponed, the auto racing themed CTF was postponed too. At first, I
couldn't see how one would put on a CTF for radio signals and radio
hardware for a virtual event. But, Hack-a-Sat qualifications and finals
were both necessarily virtual, and it worked pretty well.

Wouldn't it be great to have a technical satellite competition like this at
Symposium?

More soon!
-Michelle W5NYV





On Thu, Aug 6, 2020 at 1:11 PM Robert MacHale <robert.machale@?????.???>
wrote:

> VERY COOL - Michelle - glad to hear you are engaged with the hack-a-sat!
>
> Robert MacHale
> . KE6BLR FCC Licensed Radio Operator
> . http://www.aprsat.com/predict
> . http://www.spaceCommunicator.club
> . Supporting Boy Scout Merit Badges in Radio, Robotics, and Space
> Exploration
> Silly Joke: What did the little mountain say to the bigger mountain? Hi
> Cliff!
> He who dares not offend cannot be honest. -- THOMAS PAINE
>
> There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow men. True nobility
> lies in being superior to your former self. -- ERNEST HEMINGWAY
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thursday, August 6, 2020, 10:25:17 AM PDT, Michelle Thompson via
> AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Greetings all,
>
> There's a major event happening this weekend with a very large amateur
> radio satellite component.
>
> It's DEFCON. This year it's virtual and free to attend!
>
> https://www.defcon.org/
>
> DEFCON draws 30,000 people interested in improving technology and
> themselves.
>
> In the past, amateur radio and AMSAT have been well represented, presented,
> and promoted at WiFi Village, Ham Radio Village, and Hardware Hacking
> Village. It's been a real pleasure to present amateur satellite work at
> DEFCON because the audience is receptive, educated, interested, and
> supportive. Every time we have a booth or talk, the feedback is
> overwhelmingly positive.
>
> The largest US amateur radio licensing session on record happened at DEFCON
> a couple of years ago. Amateur radio is alive and well.
>
> This year, a number of AMSAT members have participated in another aspect of
> DEFCON: The competitions!
>
> There are a lot of competitions at DEFCON. They range from silly to
> extremely difficult multi-day technical ordeals.
>
> This year, the Air Force sponsored a high-end competition called
> Hack-a-Sat.
>
> For the qualifying event, amateur radio satellite service enthusiasts were
> recruited. Our practical knowledge and interdisciplinary can-do spirit was
> something that I thought would provide a unique advantage in a competition
> ordinarily dominated by networking and computing information security
> professionals.
>
> This strategy worked. An interdisciplinary team finished 20th out of over
> 1500. You can find reports about it in the -BB archive.
>
> Unfortunately, while 20th place is a remarkable achievement, that meant
> that team missed out on the finals, as only the top 10 moved on.
>
> However, I have some news! A number of us hams were recruited by teams that
> finished in the finals. There will be several AMSAT engineering volunteers
> participating in the final event this weekend. I'm on ADDVulcan along with
> several others.
>
> We are very excited to represent amateur radio in an event put on by the
> Air Force to explore current and pressing security issues with satellite
> technology.
>
> For the finals, the teams each received a flatsat. The challenges in the
> competition are both "virtual", meaning code only, and also "real", meaning
> having to do with the flatsat hardware.
>
> If you want to follow along, there will be coverage and content at
> https://www.hackasat.com/
>
> Some inside baseball: The team that won the semifinals is a famous
> engineering competition team called PPP. They have withdrawn from the
> finals because they also have a team in the "main" computing CTF at DEFCON,
> and could not field both teams at once.
>
> ADDVulcan finished 4th, and has strengthened their position through
> recruiting and practice.
>
> So, I think it's fair to say that amateur radio satellite service people
> have a chance to contribute to a possible win at an international elite
> competition. Everyone here should be very proud of what our license and
> hobby enables.
>
> Some of the things we've had to learn with respect to tools are Core Flight
> System (NASA open source) and COSMOS, from Ball Aerospace. We've also been
> given an opportunity to see what the Air Force believes are the 1) current
> capabilities of the technical community and 2) what the threat models might
> be.
>
> I look forward to sharing what we learn and how we do with all of you.
>
> These are the sorts of things I think AMSAT should be supporting and
> sponsoring. It's well within our capabilities as a community to host
> competitions like this one, where the goal of the challenges is to produce
> quality open source work that solves particular problems. If you are
> interested in doing something like this, then I'm here to help make it
> happen. Get in touch and let's see what we can come up with!
>
> -Michelle W5NYV
> _______________________________________________
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> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
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>


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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2020 16:21:32 +0000 (UTC)
From: aj9n@???.???
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2020-08-10
16:00	UTC
Message-ID: <2003080065.1889644.1597076492406@????.?????.???>
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Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2020-08-10 16:00 UTC

?

Quick list of scheduled contacts and events:

?

Kopernik Observatory & Science Center, Vestal, NY, direct via K2ZRO (***)

The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS

The scheduled astronaut is Chris Cassidy KF5KDR (***)

Contact is go for: Fri 2020-08-21 18:23:40 UTC 29 deg (***)

?

SpaceX-Demo2 back on earth (***)

Congrats guys on a job well done! (***)

Bob Behnken KE5GGX

Doug Hurley

?

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A multi-point telebridge contact means that each student will be on the
telebridge from their own home.

*************************************************

?

ARISS is very aware of the impact that COVID-19 is having on schools and the
public in general.? As such, we may have last minute cancellations or
postponements of school contacts.? As always, I will try to provide everyone
with near-real-time updates.?

?

The following schools have now been postponed or cancelled due to COVID-19:?

?

Postponed:

No new schools

?

Cancelled:

No new schools

?

?

?

The ARISS webpage is at https://www.ariss.org/ ???

?

Watch for future COVID-19 related announcements here also.

?

?

Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site.

?

The main page for Applying to Host a Scheduled Contact may be found at
https://www.ariss.org/apply-to-host-an-ariss-contact.html ???

ARISS Contact Applications (United States)

?

?

Note, all times are approximate. ?It is recommended that you do your own

orbital prediction?or start listening about 10 minutes before the listed

time.

All dates and times listed follow International Standard ISO 8601 date and

time format YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS

?

The complete schedule page has been updated as of?2020-08-10 16:00 UTC. (***)

Here you will find a listing of all scheduled?school contacts, and

questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and Echolink websites, and

instructions for any contact that may be streamed live.

?

https://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf

https://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.txt

?

?

The successful school list has been updated as of 2020-07-31 02:30 UTC.

https://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf

?

?

?

The ARISS webpage is at https://www.ariss.org/ ???

Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site.

?

The main page for Applying to Host a Scheduled Contact may be found at
https://www.ariss.org/apply-to-host-an-ariss-contact.html ???

?

ARISS Contact Applications (United States)

?

The ARISS webpage is at https://www.ariss.org/ ???

Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site.

?

?

Message to US Educators

?

ARISS Contact Applications (United States)

?

The Proposal Window of February 1, 2020 to March 31, 2020 has now closed.

?

For future proposal information and more details such as expectations,
proposal guidelines and proposal form, and dates and times of Information
Webinars, go to www.ariss.org.

?

Please direct any questions to?ariss.us.education@?????.???.

?

About ARISS:

?

Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS) is a cooperative
venture of international amateur radio societies and the space agencies that
support the International Space Station (ISS).? In the United States,
sponsors are the Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT), the American
Radio Relay League (ARRL), the ISS National Lab and National Aeronautics and
Space Administration (NASA). The primary goal of ARISS is to promote
exploration of science, technology, engineering, and mathematics (STEAM)
topics by organizing scheduled contacts via amateur radio between crew
members aboard the ISS and students in classrooms or public forms. Before
and during these radio contacts, students, educators, parents, and
communities learn about space, space technologies, and amateur radio. For
more information, see www.ariss.org.

?

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ARISS Contact Applications (Europe, Africa and the Middle East)

?

Schools and Youth organizations in Europe, Africa and the Middle East
interested in setting up an ARISS radio contact with an astronaut on board
the International Space Station are invited to submit an application from
September to October and from February to April.

Please refer to details and the application form at
www.ariss-eu.org/school-contacts.? Applications should be addressed by email
to:? school.selection.manager@????????.???

?

ARISS Contact Applications (Canada, Central and South America, Asia and
Australia and Russia)

?

Organizations outside the United States can apply for an ARISS contact by
filling out an application.? Please direct questions to the appropriate
regional representative listed below. If your country is not specifically
listed, send your questions to the nearest ARISS Region listed. If you are
unsure which address to use, please send your question to the ARISS-Canada
representative; they will forward your question to the appropriate
coordinator.

?

For the application, go to:? https://www.ariss.org/ariss-application.html.

ARISS-Canada and the Americas, except USA: Steve McFarlane, VE3TBD email to:
ve3tbd@?????.???

ARISS-Japan, Asia, Pacific and Australia: Satoshi Yasuda, 7M3TJZ email to:
ariss@???????.???? Japan Amateur Radio League (JARL) https://www.jarl.org/

ARISS-Russia: Soyuz Radioljubitelei Rossii (SRR) https://srr.ru/

?

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ARISS is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts.?
ARISS thanks everyone in advance for their assistance.? Feel free to send
your reports to aj9n@?????.??? or aj9n@???.???.

?

Listen for the ISS on the downlink of 145.8? MHz.

?

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*

?

All ARISS contacts are made via the Kenwood radio unless otherwise noted.

?

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*


Several of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and
not being able to get in. ?That has now been changed to https://www.ariss.org/

?

Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site.

?

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Looking for something new to do?? How about receiving DATV from the ISS??
Please note that the HamTV system has been brought back to earth for
troubleshooting.? Please monitor ARISS-EU or ARISS-ON for the very latest
news on the troubleshooting efforts.?

?

If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for complete details.?
Look for the buttons indicating Ham Video.????????????

?

http://www.ariss-eu.org/

?

If you need some assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to
provide some insight.? Contact Kerry at kbanke@?????????.???

?

?

The HamTV webpage:? https://www.amsat-on.be/hamtv-summary/

?

?

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ARISS congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100
schools:

?

Francesco IK?WGF with 140

Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 138

Sergey RV3DR with 134

Gaston ON4WF with 123

?

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The webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy. Out of date

webpages were removed, and new ones have been added.? If there are additional

ARISS websites I need to know about, please let me know.

?

?

?

Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1393.

Each school counts as 1 event.??????????????????????????????????

Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 1326.

Each contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot.

Total number of ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is 48.

?

A complete year by year breakdown of the contacts may be found in the

file.

https://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf

?

Please feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are needed.

?

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The following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact:
South Dakota, Wyoming, American?Samoa, Guam, Northern Marianas Islands, and
the Virgin Islands.

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?

QSL information may be found at:

https://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html

?

ISS callsigns: DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS, RS?ISS

?

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Frequency chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing

Doppler correction as of 2005-07-29 04:00 UTC

https://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction.
rtf



Check out the Zoho reports of the ARISS contacts

?

https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415

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?

Exp. 62 now on orbit

Chris Cassidy KF5KDR

Anatoli Ivanishin

Ivan Vagner

?

SpaceX-Demo2 back on earth (***)

Congrats guys on a job well done! (***)

Bob Behnken KE5GGX

Doug Hurley

?

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73,

Charlie?Sufana AJ9N
One of the ARISS operation team mentors

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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2020 10:50:59 -0700
From: Chris Hoffman <cq.kg6o@?????.???>
To: 73 Bob W7LRD <w7lrd@???????.???>, josepharmbruster@?????.???
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Another call for forensic accounting and an
inventory
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Each thread has a topic, and members are not incapable of intentionally
ignoring threads by looking at the subject line.


Remember those little boxy things that are whipping around the world that
> we enjoy and have fun, learn, develop expertise, and just chat with like
> people.  Please knock off the BS!
> 73 Bob W7LRD
>
>

Bob and Joseph, as a dues-pyaing AMSAT member, I'm sorry to
inconvenience you with my own '...BS,' however, please understand that --to
me-- these "...the small things are complicated' or "...watch the birdie"
misdirections, and the "...everyone is tired of it, so please knock it
off!" comments can serve to undermine your standing as Trusted Leadership
in the eyes of Interested Members by making it look as if the board and
leadership really do have something to hide.

If this is not the correct venue, then what is?

Put another way, why even respond to these questions in the Email Threads?

Also, Is wishing people would just stop griping and just enjoy the view
really a successful strategy?


Seeing these comments as you both speak from a position of leadership makes
me worry that AMSAT may be lost in the woods, and not on an
intentional path. At the moment, I can see NO better forum than an email
list to express these concerns, and to suggest that this should not happen
is... galling. Fundamentally, I see your comment as deprecating and
dismissive of Members in Good Standing who are using the only venue
apparently available with any significant level of accountability to air
their concerns.

There have been some important and simple questions asked: Why hasn't the
board of an organization to which members pay dues address some valid
questions and show that they are acting in good faith, let alone convene in
order to do so? What was really behind the irregular use of funds paid to a
law firm, and why was it handled that way? Your membership is smart enough
to gain their Ham Radio license, and information is shared more broadly and
easily than ever before, so it should be no surprise that a "...you just
would not understand, so trust us" response --or silence-- may not have the
desired effect.

Do you understand that it is some of your comments, combined with
[in-]actions --and not the legitimate questions being raised--  which
undermine the confidence we have in the board and leadership? At this
point, given the proven and highly irregular actions of the board  '... we
are making progress,' from the board may not be a sufficient answer to keep
the Rabble at a low din.


How about we turn this conversation to 'real' subject matter, then?
AMSAT is still the preeminent forum within the US to provide new Amateur
Radio Satellites. From my chair, however, given how seemingly few AMSAT
OSCAR satellites are work-able in-orbit, I'd say we are not as successful
in that effort as we have been in the past, and I would like to know why.
Can leadership answer these questions for me:
- Has a committee been convened to understand what happened with Husky Sat?
- What is the full project plan, set of milestones, and real status of
GOLF-TEE?
- Where does AMSAT stand WRT launch strategies, and can we expect to see
more operational FM and Transponder birds any time soon?
- How is AMSAT now involved in helping schools get more satellites into the
sky, and how is that effort changing?
- What resources does AMSAT require to make these things happen?
- We are geeks and enthusiasts and funders, and we want to know: how we can
help?

Respectfully,

Chris Hoffman
N6QR
Amsat member # *54687432*

(Please email me directly if you would like my cell phone number)


> > On 08/09/2020 5:07 PM Jeff Johns via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > > If AMSAT had regular board meetings, preferably monthly, then things
> like this would be taken care of quickly and efficiently.
> > >
> > > We would all be reading detailed minutes about all the "boring
> ordinary" stuff that should be going on - in the Journal.
> >
> > Exactly! A forensic audit may not be simple but I would hope that
> someone within AMSAT could produce a list of physical assets which could be
> checked to make sure they are still in AMSAT?s control and inventory. Does
> a list of assets exist?
> >
> > It doesn?t matter who wins this election. The dark cloud over AMSAT will
> remain until the members and donors are satisfied that their is no
> malfeasance that has, or is, taking place within AMSAT. All the members and
> donors can see the smoke and there?s no smoke unless there?s a fire.
> >
> > It saddens me that no legacy BoD member or Officer running against me
> will step-up and join me in requesting that a third-party audit AMSAT. Like
> I said, there wouldn?t be any smoke if there wasn?t a fire. This leads many
> members to wonder what else is being hidden. There may well be nothing
> being hidden but enough has been uncovered that a jury of average people
> would not be convinced. There?s a simple way to make the bad thoughts that
> members and donors have. Allow a full audit and inventory of AMSAT?s
> finances and inventory.
> >
> > Jeff WE4B
> > http://we4bravo.com
> >
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2020 18:03:46 +0000 (UTC)
From: aj9n@???.???
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2020-08-10
18:00	UTC
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Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2020-08-10 18:00 UTC

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Quick list of scheduled contacts and events:

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Kopernik Observatory & Science Center, Vestal, NY, direct via K2ZRO

The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS

The scheduled astronaut is Chris Cassidy KF5KDR

Contact is go for: Fri 2020-08-21 18:23:40 UTC 29 deg

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SpaceX-Demo2 back on earth

Congrats guys on a job well done!

Bob Behnken KE5GGX

Doug Hurley

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A multi-point telebridge contact means that each student will be on the
telebridge from their own home.

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ARISS is very aware of the impact that COVID-19 is having on schools and the
public in general.? As such, we may have last minute cancellations or
postponements of school contacts.? As always, I will try to provide everyone
with near-real-time updates.?

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The following schools have now been postponed or cancelled due to COVID-19:?

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Postponed:

No new schools

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Cancelled:

No new schools

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The ARISS webpage is at https://www.ariss.org/ ???

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Watch for future COVID-19 related announcements here also.

?

?

Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site.

?

The main page for Applying to Host a Scheduled Contact may be found at
https://www.ariss.org/apply-to-host-an-ariss-contact.html ???

ARISS Contact Applications (United States)

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Note, all times are approximate. ?It is recommended that you do your own

orbital prediction?or start listening about 10 minutes before the listed

time.

All dates and times listed follow International Standard ISO 8601 date and

time format YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS

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The complete schedule page has been updated as of?2020-08-10 18:00 UTC. (***)

Here you will find a listing of all scheduled?school contacts, and

questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and Echolink websites, and

instructions for any contact that may be streamed live.

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https://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf

https://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.txt

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The successful school list has been updated as of 2020-07-31 02:30 UTC.

https://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf

?

?

?

The ARISS webpage is at https://www.ariss.org/ ???

Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site.

?

The main page for Applying to Host a Scheduled Contact may be found at
https://www.ariss.org/apply-to-host-an-ariss-contact.html ???

?

ARISS Contact Applications (United States)

?

The ARISS webpage is at https://www.ariss.org/ ???

Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site.

?

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Message to US Educators

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ARISS Contact Applications (United States)

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The Proposal Window of February 1, 2020 to March 31, 2020 has now closed.

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For future proposal information and more details such as expectations,
proposal guidelines and proposal form, and dates and times of Information
Webinars, go to www.ariss.org.

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Please direct any questions to?ariss.us.education@?????.???.

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About ARISS:

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Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS) is a cooperative
venture of international amateur radio societies and the space agencies that
support the International Space Station (ISS).? In the United States,
sponsors are the Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT), the American
Radio Relay League (ARRL), the ISS National Lab and National Aeronautics and
Space Administration (NASA). The primary goal of ARISS is to promote
exploration of science, technology, engineering, and mathematics (STEAM)
topics by organizing scheduled contacts via amateur radio between crew
members aboard the ISS and students in classrooms or public forms. Before
and during these radio contacts, students, educators, parents, and
communities learn about space, space technologies, and amateur radio. For
more information, see www.ariss.org.

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**

ARISS Contact Applications (Europe, Africa and the Middle East)

?

Schools and Youth organizations in Europe, Africa and the Middle East
interested in setting up an ARISS radio contact with an astronaut on board
the International Space Station are invited to submit an application from
September to October and from February to April.

Please refer to details and the application form at
www.ariss-eu.org/school-contacts.? Applications should be addressed by email
to:? school.selection.manager@????????.???

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ARISS Contact Applications (Canada, Central and South America, Asia and
Australia and Russia)

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Organizations outside the United States can apply for an ARISS contact by
filling out an application.? Please direct questions to the appropriate
regional representative listed below. If your country is not specifically
listed, send your questions to the nearest ARISS Region listed. If you are
unsure which address to use, please send your question to the ARISS-Canada
representative; they will forward your question to the appropriate
coordinator.

?

For the application, go to:? https://www.ariss.org/ariss-application.html.

ARISS-Canada and the Americas, except USA: Steve McFarlane, VE3TBD email to:
ve3tbd@?????.???

ARISS-Japan, Asia, Pacific and Australia: Satoshi Yasuda, 7M3TJZ email to:
ariss@???????.???? Japan Amateur Radio League (JARL) https://www.jarl.org/

ARISS-Russia: Soyuz Radioljubitelei Rossii (SRR) https://srr.ru/

?

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ARISS is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts.?
ARISS thanks everyone in advance for their assistance.? Feel free to send
your reports to aj9n@?????.??? or aj9n@???.???.

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Listen for the ISS on the downlink of 145.8? MHz.

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*

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All ARISS contacts are made via the Kenwood radio unless otherwise noted.

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Several of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and
not being able to get in. ?That has now been changed to https://www.ariss.org/

?

Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site.

?

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Looking for something new to do?? How about receiving DATV from the ISS??
Please note that the HamTV system has been brought back to earth for
troubleshooting.? Please monitor ARISS-EU or ARISS-ON for the very latest
news on the troubleshooting efforts.?

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If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for complete details.?
Look for the buttons indicating Ham Video.????????????

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http://www.ariss-eu.org/

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If you need some assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to
provide some insight.? Contact Kerry at kbanke@?????????.???

?

?

The HamTV webpage:? https://www.amsat-on.be/hamtv-summary/

?

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ARISS congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100
schools:

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Francesco IK?WGF with 140

Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 138

Sergey RV3DR with 134

Gaston ON4WF with 123

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The webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy. Out of date

webpages were removed, and new ones have been added.? If there are additional

ARISS websites I need to know about, please let me know.

?

?

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Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1393.

Each school counts as 1 event.??????????????????????????????????

Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 1326.

Each contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot.

Total number of ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is 48.

?

A complete year by year breakdown of the contacts may be found in the

file.

https://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf

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Please feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are needed.

?

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The following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact:
South Dakota, Wyoming, American?Samoa, Guam, Northern Marianas Islands, and
the Virgin Islands.

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QSL information may be found at:

https://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html

?

ISS callsigns: DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS, RS?ISS

?

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Frequency chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing

Doppler correction as of 2005-07-29 04:00 UTC

https://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction.
rtf



Check out the Zoho reports of the ARISS contacts

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https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415

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Exp. 62 now on orbit

Chris Cassidy KF5KDR

Anatoli Ivanishin

Ivan Vagner

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SpaceX-Demo2 back on earth (***)

Congrats guys on a job well done! (***)

Bob Behnken KE5GGX

Doug Hurley

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73,

Charlie?Sufana AJ9N
One of the ARISS operation team mentors

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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2020 14:23:12 -0400
From: Wes Baden <badencapecod@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] ME to HI for WAS--Possible at present?
Message-ID:
<CAPvDab3yQQ9hPycR3YB_aPi_Y1o76N9ar0X+eUdBAAAN=ExSgw@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

Any ideas about the following? My QTH is in Maine, FN54, 120 feet ASL.  I'm
closing in on WAS, but the problem is going to be Hawaii.  From my rough
calculations, I need a SAT that has a 4500+ mile footprint, meaning an
apogee of 1200+ miles, and even then any operating window will be pretty
short.  Current MEO satellites do not seem to offer a window quite that
big, or am I missing something?  In theory, I guess, I could go to Mt.
Washington, NH (fortunately only 90 miles away) and a KH6 could go up on a
volcanic peak there, to try to make use of over-the-horizon signal
bending.  But I'm not sure if even that would work at the present time, and
in any case I can wait if a better MEO or an HEO bird is in the offing in
the next few years.  Does anyone know if ME-HI will be possible in the
future, and if so when?  WAS SAT is on my bucket list.  Of course I envy
all of you to the west of me, who can contact HI, but on the other hand it
is nice to be only 3200 or so from London, 3800 miles from Berlin.  We are
all prisoners of our locations, at least until another HEO satellite is in
orbit again.  Thanks for feedback.  And by the way, I'm always happy to
sked with anyone needing FN54, not the rarest grid in ME but a challenge
for many stations, especially out west or so they tell me.

73, Wes NA1ME


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