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Today's Topics:
1. Re: QUESTION (Hans BX2ABT)
2. Another call for forensic accounting and an inventory
(Joe Leikhim)
3. Re: Another call for forensic accounting and an inventory (Greg)
4. Re: Another call for forensic accounting and an inventory
(Jeff Johns)
5. Re: Another call for forensic accounting and an inventory
(Bruce Perens)
6. Re: Another call for forensic accounting and an inventory
(Bruce Perens)
7. Re: Another call for forensic accounting and an inventory
(rhyolite)
8. Re: Another call for forensic accounting and an inventory
(Bruce Perens)
9. Re: Another call for forensic accounting and an inventory (Greg)
10. RS Satellite Robot (Gary)
11. Re: RS Satellite Robot (Greg D)
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2020 08:42:01 +0800
From: Hans BX2ABT <hans.bx2abt@???.?????.???>
To: "Mark L. Hammond" <marklhammond@?????.???>
Cc: Amsat - BBs <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] QUESTION
Message-ID: <17b5adf0-fdca-6da3-d180-214104dd91ea@???.?????.???>
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Probably me being tired late at night: I guess I meant 20 minutes. My
bad. --Hans
On 8/10/20 11:18 PM, Mark L. Hammond wrote:
> Hello Hans and the list--
>
> AO-92 is currently experiencing around 35 mins of ellipse and then 60
> minutes of sunlight per orbit.?? I read the "..roughly 2 hours after
> it entered eclipse" and that caught my attention and as they say,
> "made me look." ;-)
>
> Mark L. Hammond [N8MH]
> AMSAT Director and Command Station
>
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 10:18 AM Hans BX2ABT via AMSAT-BB
> <amsat-bb@?????.??? <mailto:amsat-bb@?????.???>> wrote:
>
> Yes, just had it drop into safe-mode towards the end of our nightly
> pass, roughly 2 hours after it entered eclipse. --Hans
>
> On 8/10/20 6:03 PM, Andrew Glasbrenner via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> > AO-92 is currently dropping into safe mode due to low voltage
> near the end of eclipse on some orbits. Right now that's the end
> of the ascending, evening passes, and it's also dependent on the
> load the previous orbit. As soon as the satellite hits
> illumination again, it automatically comes out of safe mode. It's
> unfortunate that this is happening over North America right now,
> but it's the control software preventing the batteries from over
> discharge, which is a good thing.
> >
> > Remember you can always check the latest telemetry at
> https://www.amsat.org/tlm/leaderboard.php?id=0&db=FOXDB
> >
> > 73, Drew KO4MA
> > AMSAT VP Operations
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb-bounces@?????.???
> <mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@?????.???>> On Behalf Of Rosa & Robert
> Fitzpatrick via AMSAT-BB
> > Sent: Monday, August 10, 2020 12:44 AM
> > To: amsat-bb@?????.??? <mailto:amsat-bb@?????.???>
> > Subject: [amsat-bb] QUESTION
> >
> > WHAT GOING ON WITH AO-92 . I HEAR IT IS IN SAFE MODE.IS
> <http://MODE.IS> THER A PROBLEM WITH AO-92 ??????BOB/KB5SQG
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2020 21:25:54 -0400
From: Joe Leikhim <rhyolite@???????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] Another call for forensic accounting and an
inventory
Message-ID: <72171e4e-5144-7a3c-4a9f-32e9aeda33fa@???????.???>
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That is sort of what has happened to the NRA!
I doubt we have any "grifters" in AMSAT. To be safe, look out for any Jaguar
owners as Jeremy Clarkson of Top Gear points out.
That said the P&L statement should be reviewed.
Locally, our ex mayor decided to buy a failing golf course with our
stormwater funds to save it from development. An action clearly benefiting
only one neighborhood. Depending on who you talk to on a given day, it is
either making or losing money. This is a case where the P&L needs to be made
public.
"Yes. I see the ?plot? clearly now. A few grifters decided the best way to
get ?rich" was to join a ham radio organization. They would lay low for
10-30 years so as not to arouse suspicion. They would volunteer their time
and efforts for decades to provide an smokescreen so other members wouldn?t
suspect that they would one day steal money and inventory from the coffers
and then refuse to provide a detailed accounting when requested?
Jeff, KE9V"
--
Joe Leikhim
Leikhim and Associates
Communications Consultants
Oviedo, Florida
JLeikhim@???????.???
407-982-0446
WWW.LEIKHIM.COM
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2020 23:20:37 -0400
From: Greg <almetco@???????.???>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Another call for forensic accounting and an
inventory
Message-ID: <A6F95B40-7488-48DC-81BD-AC370BBAE008@???????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
As an ex-CPA I ask, has anyone realized what the cost of such an audit would
be? I can tell you that unless you have a reasonable suspicion and
probability, not possibility, of fraudulent activities, you will just burn
many thousands that could be used on satellites.
Greg
N3MVF
On Aug 10, 2020, at 9:25 PM, Joe Leikhim via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
wrote:
That is sort of what has happened to the NRA!
I doubt we have any "grifters" in AMSAT. To be safe, look out for any Jaguar
owners as Jeremy Clarkson of Top Gear points out.
That said the P&L statement should be reviewed.
Locally, our ex mayor decided to buy a failing golf course with our
stormwater funds to save it from development. An action clearly benefiting
only one neighborhood. Depending on who you talk to on a given day, it is
either making or losing money. This is a case where the P&L needs to be made
public.
"Yes. I see the ?plot? clearly now. A few grifters decided the best way to
get ?rich" was to join a ham radio organization. They would lay low for
10-30 years so as not to arouse suspicion. They would volunteer their time
and efforts for decades to provide an smokescreen so other members wouldn?t
suspect that they would one day steal money and inventory from the coffers
and then refuse to provide a detailed accounting when requested?
Jeff, KE9V"
--
Joe Leikhim
Leikhim and Associates
Communications Consultants
Oviedo, Florida
JLeikhim@???????.???
407-982-0446
WWW.LEIKHIM.COM
_______________________________________________
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2020 23:41:27 -0500
From: Jeff Johns <jeff30339@?????.???>
To: AMSAT <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Another call for forensic accounting and an
inventory
Message-ID: <D2FA0D4D-4434-4FA9-9EFD-01EC05BB9873@?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
I am aware of what the costs would be but wouldn?t it be better to bite the
bullet and remove the cloud from AMSAT? I feel that by not doing so it could
be more costly by losing more member and donor dollars.
Based on reports from two BoDs, tens of thousands of dollars were spent
unwisely and against bylaws. It?s time to spend some money wisely in an open
and transparent fashion.
IMHO, it would be best to go ahead and make the cloud go away. I?ve asked
those running against me to speak-up and join me in this call but I have
heard nothing from them. I have, however, received many emails from regular
members that agree with me so I?m not the only one that wants this to happen.
For this to happen, it would require the Board to meet (which they don?t
currently do on a regular basis) and for a motion to be made and passed.
There?s definitely smoke that many members see and smoke only comes from
fires. Let?s put out this fire, once and for all, and move forward. By not
putting out the fire the FUD will remain and that will cost AMSAT money in
the form of lost members and donations.
Jeff WE4B
http://we4bravo.com
> On Aug 10, 2020, at 10:26 PM, Greg via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>
> ?As an ex-CPA I ask, has anyone realized what the cost of such an audit
would be? I can tell you that unless you have a reasonable suspicion and
probability, not possibility, of fraudulent activities, you will just burn
many thousands that could be used on satellites.
>
> Greg
> N3MVF
>
> On Aug 10, 2020, at 9:25 PM, Joe Leikhim via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
wrote:
>
> That is sort of what has happened to the NRA!
>
> I doubt we have any "grifters" in AMSAT. To be safe, look out for any
Jaguar owners as Jeremy Clarkson of Top Gear points out.
>
> That said the P&L statement should be reviewed.
>
> Locally, our ex mayor decided to buy a failing golf course with our
stormwater funds to save it from development. An action clearly benefiting
only one neighborhood. Depending on who you talk to on a given day, it is
either making or losing money. This is a case where the P&L needs to be made
public.
>
> "Yes. I see the ?plot? clearly now. A few grifters decided the best way to
get ?rich" was to join a ham radio organization. They would lay low for
10-30 years so as not to arouse suspicion. They would volunteer their time
and efforts for decades to provide an smokescreen so other members wouldn?t
suspect that they would one day steal money and inventory from the coffers
and then refuse to provide a detailed accounting when requested?
>
>
> Jeff, KE9V"
>
> --
> Joe Leikhim
>
>
> Leikhim and Associates
>
> Communications Consultants
>
> Oviedo, Florida
>
> JLeikhim@???????.???
>
> 407-982-0446
>
> WWW.LEIKHIM.COM
>
> _______________________________________________
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> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
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AMSAT-NA.
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expressed
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2020 22:00:25 -0700
From: Bruce Perens <bruce@??????.???>
To: Joe Leikhim <rhyolite@???????.???>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Another call for forensic accounting and an
inventory
Message-ID:
<CAK2MWOteL0FirOU-ALCOQMAw8dxZesjbKSeooATKHvPd9sHChQ@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
Joe, Nobody is accusing anyone of ripping off.
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2020 22:14:17 -0700
From: Bruce Perens <bruce@??????.???>
To: Greg <almetco@???????.???>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Another call for forensic accounting and an
inventory
Message-ID:
<CAK2MWOukBR1-dFE5af8XfDchkNQoxb2prPqW8O32DmZe=NWA5A@????.?????.???>
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On Mon, Aug 10, 2020, 8:22 PM Greg via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
> As an ex-CPA I ask, has anyone realized what the cost of such an audit
> would be? I can tell you that unless you have a reasonable suspicion and
> probability, not possibility, of fraudulent activities, you will just burn
> many thousands that could be used on satellites.
>
Just publish the books. Anonymize donors (unless they wish otherwise).
Martha's salary is public knowledge, it's on the form 990. I can't think of
what else there is that would have to be secret.
>
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2020 02:12:12 -0400
From: rhyolite <rhyolite@???????.???>
To: Bruce Perens <bruce@??????.???>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Another call for forensic accounting and an
inventory
Message-ID: <E1k5NWB-000jCM-No@????????.??????????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Nor am I but there is a cloud to be lifted.? The P&L should not be a burden.
Money in, money out. There is a P&L ?Sent from my Galaxy Tab? A
-------- Original message --------From: Bruce Perens <bruce@??????.???>
Date: 8/11/20 1:00 AM (GMT-05:00) To: Joe Leikhim <rhyolite@???????.???>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Another call for
forensic accounting and an inventory Joe, Nobody is accusing anyone of
ripping off.
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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2020 23:19:02 -0700
From: Bruce Perens <bruce@??????.???>
To: rhyolite <rhyolite@???????.???>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Another call for forensic accounting and an
inventory
Message-ID:
<CAK2MWOvFxgPAFv3Z7uQPdrxDgOWJ8cPtKVDr4byK=dvweQvGhw@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
This is what is public at present:
https://www.amsat.org/audit-and-other-financial-reports/
On Mon, Aug 10, 2020, 11:12 PM rhyolite <rhyolite@???????.???> wrote:
> Nor am I but there is a cloud to be lifted. The P&L should not be a
> burden. Money in, money out. There is a P&L ?
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Sent from my Galaxy Tab? A
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Bruce Perens <bruce@??????.???>
> Date: 8/11/20 1:00 AM (GMT-05:00)
> To: Joe Leikhim <rhyolite@???????.???>
> Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Another call for forensic accounting and an
> inventory
>
> Joe, Nobody is accusing anyone of ripping off.
>
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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2020 05:56:11 -0400
From: Greg <almetco@???????.???>
To: Jeff Johns <jeff30339@?????.???>
Cc: AMSAT <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Another call for forensic accounting and an
inventory
Message-ID: <B8C86506-A3AE-4FB5-AC82-DAAC1FADC4D5@???????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
First of all, if money was spent unwisely, that is still not a reason for a
forensic audit. If it was against bylaws and they have the proof, your issue
isn?t getting a forensic accountant, its determining what your actions
should be under those bylaws. Unless the money was ?coded? to an area that
makes the transaction invisible, then that may be different. For example,
legal fees were capitalized into satellite costs. Even still, when the
auditor released the audited financial statements, during his field work,
his test are not to detect fraud but proper classification of such items.
He can use various tests from looking at transactions that might have an
attorneys name shown as a satellite cost etc using various sampling
techniques. His audit attests that the statements are a true financial
accounting picture of the organization. However financial audits, those
that attest financial statements, are not conducted to catch fraud though
they do many times.
So, forensic accounting cost is a waste of money unless you suspect fraud.
If the two directors suspect fraud, show the evidence and that will take the
cloud of suspicion away. Then do a forensic fraud to account for losses.
Other wise, burn the money.
ex-CPA
Greg
N3MVF
On Aug 11, 2020, at 12:41 AM, Jeff Johns via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
wrote:
I am aware of what the costs would be but wouldn?t it be better to bite the
bullet and remove the cloud from AMSAT? I feel that by not doing so it could
be more costly by losing more member and donor dollars.
Based on reports from two BoDs, tens of thousands of dollars were spent
unwisely and against bylaws. It?s time to spend some money wisely in an open
and transparent fashion.
IMHO, it would be best to go ahead and make the cloud go away. I?ve asked
those running against me to speak-up and join me in this call but I have
heard nothing from them. I have, however, received many emails from regular
members that agree with me so I?m not the only one that wants this to happen.
For this to happen, it would require the Board to meet (which they don?t
currently do on a regular basis) and for a motion to be made and passed.
There?s definitely smoke that many members see and smoke only comes from
fires. Let?s put out this fire, once and for all, and move forward. By not
putting out the fire the FUD will remain and that will cost AMSAT money in
the form of lost members and donations.
Jeff WE4B
http://we4bravo.com
> On Aug 10, 2020, at 10:26 PM, Greg via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>
> ?As an ex-CPA I ask, has anyone realized what the cost of such an audit
would be? I can tell you that unless you have a reasonable suspicion and
probability, not possibility, of fraudulent activities, you will just burn
many thousands that could be used on satellites.
>
> Greg
> N3MVF
>
> On Aug 10, 2020, at 9:25 PM, Joe Leikhim via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
wrote:
>
> That is sort of what has happened to the NRA!
>
> I doubt we have any "grifters" in AMSAT. To be safe, look out for any
Jaguar owners as Jeremy Clarkson of Top Gear points out.
>
> That said the P&L statement should be reviewed.
>
> Locally, our ex mayor decided to buy a failing golf course with our
stormwater funds to save it from development. An action clearly benefiting
only one neighborhood. Depending on who you talk to on a given day, it is
either making or losing money. This is a case where the P&L needs to be made
public.
>
> "Yes. I see the ?plot? clearly now. A few grifters decided the best way to
get ?rich" was to join a ham radio organization. They would lay low for
10-30 years so as not to arouse suspicion. They would volunteer their time
and efforts for decades to provide an smokescreen so other members wouldn?t
suspect that they would one day steal money and inventory from the coffers
and then refuse to provide a detailed accounting when requested?
>
>
> Jeff, KE9V"
>
> --
> Joe Leikhim
>
>
> Leikhim and Associates
>
> Communications Consultants
>
> Oviedo, Florida
>
> JLeikhim@???????.???
>
> 407-982-0446
>
> WWW.LEIKHIM.COM
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
> _______________________________________________
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> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2020 12:28:03 +0000
From: Gary <gary_mayfield@???????.???>
To: "AMSAT-BB@?????.???? <AMSAT-BB@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] RS Satellite Robot
Message-ID:
<CH2PR13MB386412080D3716C1C75F935C8A450@?????????????.????????.????.???????.??
?>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
A question came up on Facebook about a QSL from a satellite. I remember some
of the RS Satellites carried a 'Robot' which would QSO you with a serial
number. You could then send that information to Box 88 in Moscow and receive
a QSL. A quick Google search did not turn up any pictures of the cards.
I would love to see one, and I am sure they are out there. Anyone have any
links?
73,
Gary "Joe" kk0sd
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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2020 09:03:18 -0700
From: Greg D <ko6th.greg@?????.???>
To: Gary <gary_mayfield@???????.???>
Cc: "AMSAT-BB@?????.???? <AMSAT-BB@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] RS Satellite Robot
Message-ID: <e2db80f8-998d-64b8-9a89-ff73ee76fb9e@?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Hi Gary,
The satellite was RS-13. A little fiddly to make it work (my fist
wasn't good then, and hasn't improved since), but with some patience one
could make a contact. A quick search in the AMSAT archives turned up
this article:
https://www.amsat.org/amsat/archive/amsat-bb/199905/msg00084.html
Good fun,
Greg KO6TH
Gary via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> A question came up on Facebook about a QSL from a satellite. I remember
some of the RS Satellites carried a 'Robot' which would QSO you with a
serial number. You could then send that information to Box 88 in Moscow and
receive a QSL. A quick Google search did not turn up any pictures of the
cards.
>
> I would love to see one, and I am sure they are out there. Anyone have any
links?
>
>
> 73,
> Gary "Joe" kk0sd
> _______________________________________________
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