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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Transparency and Double Standards (Bruce Perens)
2. Re: Ridiculous reactions (Joseph Armbruster)
3. Re: Transparency and Double Standards (Joseph Armbruster)
4. Has the amsat.org remailer crashed? (Jim Sanford)
5. Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2020-08-20 01:00 UTC
(aj9n@???.????
6. Re: Recording Passes (Don KB2YSI)
7. HEO & Geo Orbits, (Joe)
8. Re: HEO & Geo Orbits, (W3AB/GEO)
9. Re: HEO & Geo Orbits, (Jim Walls)
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2020 17:15:56 -0700
From: Bruce Perens <bruce@??????.???>
To: "E.Mike McCardel" <mccardelm@?????.???>
Cc: Amsat - BBs <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Transparency and Double Standards
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Well, very sorry that you guys feel that way, Mike and Dave.
I expect to have some news that will change the discussion entirely. I
don't think there's much point in continuing with this until then.
Thanks
Bruce
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2020 20:35:32 -0400
From: Joseph Armbruster <josepharmbruster@?????.???>
To: Michael Tondee <mat_62@???????.???>
Cc: Amsat BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Ridiculous reactions
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note: i'm mobile.
All that i've asked for is to see what was in the actual request. The
determination letter only has meaning, within the context of the request.
This is not tearing anything down, it's requesting information to determine
what the claim to success really means.
Joe, KJ4JIO
On Wed, Aug 19, 2020 at 7:36 PM Michael Tondee via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
> We have potentially great news about ITAR and all certain people can
> think to do is try to tear it down. Could it be that some people don't
> want AMSAT to be out from under ITAR because it removes a convenient
> excuse for the lack of ability to get anything consequential done
> towards launching an HEO satellite? The premature negative reactions
> are ridiculous.
>
> 73,
>
> Michael, W4HIJ
>
> _______________________________________________
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> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
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> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2020 20:41:30 -0400
From: Joseph Armbruster <josepharmbruster@?????.???>
To: John Brier <johnbrier@?????.???>
Cc: Amsat - BBs <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Transparency and Double Standards
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note: i'm mobile.
Trust is not demanded, it's earned. Just produce the full request and show
everyone on the -bb that it supports the claim. It seems like a no brainer
to me...
Joe, KJ4JIO
On Wed, Aug 19, 2020 at 6:50 PM John Brier <johnbrier@?????.???> wrote:
> "This whole thing is functionally equivalent to some couple hiring an
> attorney to help fill out immigration forms and then some family member
> comes up to them and asks "hey can i see how you filled out section X?"
>
> You don't trust Michelle so this comparison is not reasonable.
>
> 73, John Brier KG4AKV
>
> On Wed, Aug 19, 2020, 18:00 Joseph Armbruster <josepharmbruster@?????.???>
> wrote:
>
>> John Brier,
>>
>> Anyone on the -bb can see right through this John, by simply examining
>> the submission form from the DDTC themselves. Anyone on the -bb can
>> register with the DDTC Right Now and submit the same form for some other
>> request... and, send me, you and everyone else on the-bb a copy of the
>> forms before, after, or during the submission. The DDTC does not require
>> it to be kept a secret.
>>
>> And, an attorney was hired... whoopty doo! Did whoever is working with
>> the attorney sign over all right, title and interest in the form submission
>> to the attorney!? And if-so, do you really trust people that think having
>> to ask an attorney for permission to handle their own information is a
>> great idea!?! Just the thought of being pigeon holed into working with a
>> single attorney or firm and having to check with them to get a release
>> signed from them, before releasing information like this, is frightening to
>> me! It's not like this is a criminal defense case... This whole thing is
>> functionally equivalent to some couple hiring an attorney to help fill out
>> immigration forms and then some family member comes up to them and asks
>> "hey can i see how you filled out section X?"... and then, the couple turns
>> around and says "Oh, no... I have to ask my attorney for a release before I
>> let you see it".... seriously ?!!?
>>
>> Why, in all humanity... would you ever give an attorney leverage over
>> your documents / information ?!?!
>>
>> She's going to be hard pressed to find anyone else that has publicized
>> their DDTC submissions. But this is entirely besides the point and
>> irrelevant, and YOU ALL KNOW IT. Most companies have a reason to protect
>> the development of their (or others) defense articles. There are no
>> defense articles or other IP to protect here, as-far-as-we-all-know?!!?!?
>> Why does an organization focused on transparent open source development of
>> amateur satellite technology care about protecting this submission to the
>> DDTC? That's a more critical question. Why wasn't the DDTC submission
>> provided to the -bb community before being sent out? So we could know what
>> was being requested and why?
>>
>>
>> Attach, select file, send already,
>> Joseph Armbruster
>> KJ4JIO
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 19, 2020 at 5:34 PM John Brier via AMSAT-BB <
>> amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>>
>>> This is not a double standard or a lack of transparency. Their lawyer
>>> requested they not release certain information and they are doing as
>>> requested.
>>>
>>> Open source software companies work with security embargos on
>>> vulnerabilities, and NDAs on prerelease hardware all the time. They keep
>>> specific things secret for as long as they have to and then open it up as
>>> soon as they can.
>>>
>>> Michelle even said she would double check with the lawyers to see if they
>>> can release it. She is also looking into whether there are examples of
>>> this
>>> form being published online by other orgs. She is not saying flat out no
>>> because I have a right to.
>>>
>>> 73, John Brier KG4AKV
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 19, 2020, 16:21 David Swanson via AMSAT-BB <
>>> amsat-bb@?????.???>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> > I'm sorry - but this thread is absolutely hilarious, and the last
>>> reply by
>>> > Mr. Perens is the cherry on top of the stupidity cake.
>>> >
>>> > Michelle and her comrades have spouted all about transparency and
>>> openness
>>> > for the past year, but when they're presented with an opportunity to be
>>> > transparent and open with their competing organizations they play the
>>> 'Our
>>> > Lawyers said not to share card'. When presented with their hypocrisy
>>> they
>>> > retreat to the completely expected position of politicians everywhere
>>> by
>>> > claiming that while AMSAT should make everything open, ORI has a right
>>> to
>>> > keep things secret, because what they're doing is special and
>>> different.
>>> > And then - amazingly - still have the audacity to somehow justify their
>>> > position by claiming AMSAT isn't launching satellites? Unless I'm
>>> mistaken,
>>> > ORI/Perens Inc. have launched precisely *ZERO* birds ever - AMSAT has
>>> put 4
>>> > birds in orbit since I've been a member, and has provided parts and
>>> > guidance to countless 3rd parties to launch their own birds. They have
>>> a
>>> > realistic plan to get more birds into the orbits operators want
>>> despite not
>>> > being part of the in-crowd... I have complete faith that they will
>>> deliver,
>>> > because they already have. ORI has delivered jack all except promises
>>> and
>>> > chaos.
>>> >
>>> > Maybe - just MAYBE - this thread lays bare what the community will be
>>> > getting with "the slate" of candidates. A whole bunch of "Thee, but
>>> not for
>>> > me" type of leadership, and a whole bunch of empty guarantees.
>>> >
>>> > -Dave, KG5CCI
>>> >
>>> > On Wed, Aug 19, 2020 at 2:17 PM Bruce Perens via AMSAT-BB <
>>> > amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > Sorry you feel that way. The unfortunate fact is that AMSAT has
>>> already
>>> > > been judged by its outside funding organizations, and is going to
>>> have a
>>> > > hard time surmounting that without a major change in leadership. It
>>> isn't
>>> > > going to matter much for you to stick with leadership who can't can't
>>> > build
>>> > > and launch enough satellites. That is what it is coming to. Fixing
>>> that
>>> > is
>>> > > the only agenda.
>>> > >
>>> > > On Wed, Aug 19, 2020, 11:18 AM E.Mike McCardel via AMSAT-BB <
>>> > > amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > > > My final word. At least some people on your agendized team, for the
>>> > take
>>> > > > over of AMSAT, I hold or have held in high respect. That is, at
>>> least
>>> > > until
>>> > > > they allowed themselves to be associated with this travesty of
>>> ego. I
>>> > now
>>> > > > question their judgement And motivation. That?s on you. TEAM
>>> politics
>>> > > isn?t
>>> > > > what this is about. Character, track record, and how I have seen
>>> > > candidates
>>> > > > treat Me and others is how I will vote.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > I am highly disappointed that this has turned into a we / they
>>> > campaign.
>>> > > > The organization is better than that. Regardless of the outcome of
>>> this
>>> > > > election, I judge AMSAT and it reputation will be damaged moving
>>> > forward.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > EMike, AA8EM
>>> > > >
>>> > > > EMike McCardel, AA8EM
>>> > > > Past Senior Editor AMSAT News Service
>>> > > > Past AMSAT-NA VP Educational Relations
>>> > > > Former ARRL, Ohio Section, Affiliated Club Coordinator
>>> > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > > > > On Aug 19, 2020, at 1:11 PM, Michelle Thompson <
>>> > > > mountain.michelle@?????.???> wrote:
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > ?
>>> > > > > You might have missed the part where all of the information in
>>> this
>>> > > > particular CJ request is already publicly available. It's already
>>> > > > transparent.
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > The submitted form itself is not usually published. That's the
>>> only
>>> > > > restriction we are talking about.
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > This is fundamentally different from refusing to allow Directors
>>> > access
>>> > > > to corporate records unless they sign NDAs, then showing up
>>> without the
>>> > > > actual NDAs, then continuing to deny access to records and
>>> > communications
>>> > > > after everyone signed a blank form that purported to be a signature
>>> > form
>>> > > > for these alleged NDAs. Some of which have yet to be produced and
>>> you
>>> > as
>>> > > a
>>> > > > member are not allowed to know about.
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > Your attack is off base and inaccurate. I'm sorry you feel the
>>> way
>>> > you
>>> > > > do. This work means that things can get dramatically better for the
>>> > > > organization in highly visible and measurable ways.
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > -Michelle W5NYV
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > >> On Wed, Aug 19, 2020 at 9:33 AM E.Mike McCardel via AMSAT-BB <
>>> > > > amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>>> > > > >> Just an observation. Among all of this talk, during the past
>>> BOoD
>>> > > > election
>>> > > > >> cycle, about Transparency, I find it amazing that the excuse of
>>> the
>>> > > > Lawyers
>>> > > > >> or others don't think it wise to disclose information can even
>>> be an
>>> > > > >> argument.
>>> > > > >>
>>> > > > >> Michelle Wrote:
>>> > > > >> "Unless, of course, this Information contained in CJ requests
>>> is
>>> > not
>>> > > > >> usually made public. The law firm would not file it unless it
>>> was
>>> > > > presented
>>> > > > >> to the State Department as private and confidential. This
>>> advice was
>>> > > > >> because virtually all requests are for proprietary programs and
>>> > > > products.
>>> > > > >> Sticking out in this regard, by doing something they advised
>>> > strongly
>>> > > > >> against, would not work to our
>>> > > > >> advantage in any way. I want to win for open source, not die on
>>> the
>>> > > > wrong
>>> > > > >> hill. as an admission that NDA's are indeed important and not
>>> just
>>> > > > >> convenient."
>>> > > > >>
>>> > > > >> Is this not the very essence of Non-Disclosure Agreements?
>>> Without
>>> > the
>>> > > > >> transparency which seems to be lacking here this comes across
>>> as a
>>> > > > simple
>>> > > > >> political stunt. Enough already.
>>> > > > >>
>>> > > > >> I am not voting for any TEAM, I'm putting my trust in
>>> individuals
>>> > > whom I
>>> > > > >> respect and trust and have no agenda other than serving AMSAT to
>>> > keep
>>> > > > >> amateur radio in space.
>>> > > > >>
>>> > > > >> EMike, AA8EM
>>> > > > >>
>>> > > > >>
>>> > > > >>
>>> > > > >> E. Michael McCardel, AA8EM, former KC8YLD
>>> > > > >> Former Senior Editor for AMSAT News Service,
>>> > > > >> Past VP Educational Relations for AMSAT-NA
>>> > > > >> Former Ohio Section Affiliated Club Coordinator
>>> > > > >> _______________________________________________
>>> > > > >> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum
>>> > available
>>> > > > >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring
>>> membership.
>>> > > > Opinions expressed
>>> > > > >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official
>>> > views
>>> > > > of AMSAT-NA.
>>> > > > >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur
>>> satellite
>>> > > > program!
>>> > > > >> Subscription settings:
>>> > > https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>> > > > _______________________________________________
>>> > > > Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum
>>> available
>>> > > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>>> > > Opinions
>>> > > > expressed
>>> > > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official
>>> views
>>> > of
>>> > > > AMSAT-NA.
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>>> > > program!
>>> > > > Subscription settings:
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>>> > > >
>>> > > _______________________________________________
>>> > > Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum
>>> available
>>> > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>>> > Opinions
>>> > > expressed
>>> > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official
>>> views of
>>> > > AMSAT-NA.
>>> > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>>> > program!
>>> > > Subscription settings:
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>>> > >
>>> > _______________________________________________
>>> > Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>>> Opinions
>>> > expressed
>>> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
>>> of
>>> > AMSAT-NA.
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>>> program!
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>>> >
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>>> Opinions expressed
>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>>> AMSAT-NA.
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>>> program!
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>>>
>>
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2020 21:12:02 -0400
From: Jim Sanford <wb4gcs@??????.???>
To: 'Amsat - BBs' <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Has the amsat.org remailer crashed?
Message-ID: <1c4f293e-94c5-32e8-71f4-0ab8da2052ae@??????.???>
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I'm not getting anything, including test messages.? Yet, tests to my
physical address come through immediately.
If anybody knows, is this a long-term problem or something that will be
fixed any time soon?
Thanks & 73,
Jim
wb4gcs@?????.???
(reply to wb4gcs@??????.????
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2020 01:36:27 +0000 (UTC)
From: aj9n@???.???
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2020-08-20
01:00 UTC
Message-ID: <1884112021.3562602.1597887387553@????.?????.???>
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Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2020-08-20 01:00 UTC
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Quick list of scheduled contacts and events:
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Kopernik Observatory & Science Center, Vestal, NY, direct via K2ZRO
The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS
The scheduled astronaut is Chris Cassidy KF5KDR
Contact was successful: Wed 2020-08-19 18:21:55 UTC 85 deg (***)
Watch for live stream starting about 20 to 30 minutes ahead of AOS at:
https://youtu.be/1Pwcc2rilz0??
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Information and Technologies Branch, Department of Education-Queensland
Government, Brisbane, Queensland, Australia, telebridge via ON4ISS
The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be OR4ISS
The scheduled astronaut is Chris Cassidy KF5KDR
Contact is go for: Mon 2020-08-24 08:09:22 UTC 80 deg? This time is going to
change.? (***)
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Watch for new contact time:? Mon 2020-08-24 09:32:57 UTC 34 deg via AB1OC
(***)
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Thanks to Bob VK4DA, the live audio should be available: Echolink *HAM*
69556 / IRLP 9556 / AllStar 48820 49903 (***)
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A multi-point telebridge contact means that each student will be on the
telebridge from their own home.
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ARISS is very aware of the impact that COVID-19 is having on schools and the
public in general.? As such, we may have last minute cancellations or
postponements of school contacts.? As always, I will try to provide everyone
with near-real-time updates.?
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The following schools have now been postponed or cancelled due to COVID-19:?
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Postponed:
Estes Park Elementary School (***)
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Cancelled:
No new schools
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The ARISS webpage is at https://www.ariss.org/ ???
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Watch for future COVID-19 related announcements here also.
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Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site.
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The main page for Applying to Host a Scheduled Contact may be found at
https://www.ariss.org/apply-to-host-an-ariss-contact.html ???
ARISS Contact Applications (United States)
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Note, all times are approximate. ?It is recommended that you do your own
orbital prediction?or start listening about 10 minutes before the listed
time.
All dates and times listed follow International Standard ISO 8601 date and
time format YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS
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The complete schedule page has been updated as of?2020-08-20 01:00 UTC. (***)
Here you will find a listing of all scheduled?school contacts, and
questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and Echolink websites, and
instructions for any contact that may be streamed live.
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https://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf
https://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.txt
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The successful school list has been updated as of 2020-08-20 01:00 UTC. (***)
https://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf
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The ARISS webpage is at https://www.ariss.org/ ???
Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site.
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The main page for Applying to Host a Scheduled Contact may be found at
https://www.ariss.org/apply-to-host-an-ariss-contact.html ???
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ARISS Contact Applications (United States)
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The ARISS webpage is at https://www.ariss.org/ ???
Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site.
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Message to US Educators
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ARISS Contact Applications (United States)
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The Proposal Window of February 1, 2020 to March 31, 2020 has now closed.
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For future proposal information and more details such as expectations,
proposal guidelines and proposal form, and dates and times of Information
Webinars, go to www.ariss.org.
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Please direct any questions to?ariss.us.education@?????.???.
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About ARISS:
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Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS) is a cooperative
venture of international amateur radio societies and the space agencies that
support the International Space Station (ISS).? In the United States,
sponsors are the Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT), the American
Radio Relay League (ARRL), the ISS National Lab and National Aeronautics and
Space Administration (NASA). The primary goal of ARISS is to promote
exploration of science, technology, engineering, and mathematics (STEAM)
topics by organizing scheduled contacts via amateur radio between crew
members aboard the ISS and students in classrooms or public forms. Before
and during these radio contacts, students, educators, parents, and
communities learn about space, space technologies, and amateur radio. For
more information, see www.ariss.org.
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ARISS Contact Applications (Europe, Africa and the Middle East)
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Schools and Youth organizations in Europe, Africa and the Middle East
interested in setting up an ARISS radio contact with an astronaut on board
the International Space Station are invited to submit an application from
September to October and from February to April.
Please refer to details and the application form at
www.ariss-eu.org/school-contacts.? Applications should be addressed by email
to:? school.selection.manager@????????.???
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ARISS Contact Applications (Canada, Central and South America, Asia and
Australia and Russia)
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Organizations outside the United States can apply for an ARISS contact by
filling out an application.? Please direct questions to the appropriate
regional representative listed below. If your country is not specifically
listed, send your questions to the nearest ARISS Region listed. If you are
unsure which address to use, please send your question to the ARISS-Canada
representative; they will forward your question to the appropriate
coordinator.
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For the application, go to:? https://www.ariss.org/ariss-application.html.
ARISS-Canada and the Americas, except USA: Steve McFarlane, VE3TBD email to:
ve3tbd@?????.???
ARISS-Japan, Asia, Pacific and Australia: Satoshi Yasuda, 7M3TJZ email to:
ariss@???????.???? Japan Amateur Radio League (JARL) https://www.jarl.org/
ARISS-Russia: Soyuz Radioljubitelei Rossii (SRR) https://srr.ru/
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ARISS is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts.?
ARISS thanks everyone in advance for their assistance.? Feel free to send
your reports to aj9n@?????.??? or aj9n@???.???.
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Listen for the ISS on the downlink of 145.8? MHz.
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All ARISS contacts are made via the Kenwood radio unless otherwise noted.
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Several of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and
not being able to get in. ?That has now been changed to https://www.ariss.org/
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Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site.
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Looking for something new to do?? How about receiving DATV from the ISS??
Please note that the HamTV system has been brought back to earth for
troubleshooting.? Please monitor ARISS-EU or ARISS-ON for the very latest
news on the troubleshooting efforts.?
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If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for complete details.?
Look for the buttons indicating Ham Video.????????????
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http://www.ariss-eu.org/
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If you need some assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to
provide some insight.? Contact Kerry at kbanke@?????????.???
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The HamTV webpage:? https://www.amsat-on.be/hamtv-summary/
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ARISS congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100
schools:
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Francesco IK?WGF with 140
Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 138
Sergey RV3DR with 135
Gaston ON4WF with 123
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The webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy. Out of date
webpages were removed, and new ones have been added.? If there are additional
ARISS websites I need to know about, please let me know.
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Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1395. (***)
Each school counts as 1 event.??????????????????????????????????
Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 1328. (***)
Each contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot.
Total number of ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is 48.
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A complete year by year breakdown of the contacts may be found in the
file.
https://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf
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Please feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are needed.
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The following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact:
South Dakota, Wyoming, American?Samoa, Guam, Northern Marianas Islands, and
the Virgin Islands.
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QSL information may be found at:
https://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html
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ISS callsigns: DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS, RS?ISS
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Frequency chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing
Doppler correction as of 2005-07-29 04:00 UTC
https://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction.
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Check out the Zoho reports of the ARISS contacts
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https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415
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Exp. 62 now on orbit
Chris Cassidy KF5KDR
Anatoli Ivanishin
Ivan Vagner
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73,
Charlie?Sufana AJ9N
One of the ARISS operation team mentors
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2020 23:15:02 -0400
From: Don KB2YSI <kb2ysi@?????.???>
To: Gerald Payton <gp_ab5r@???????.???>
Cc: "amsat-bb@?????.???? <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Recording Passes
Message-ID:
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Depending on your setup, you could put a cellphone, laptop, or a mic hooked
into your computer in front of the radio speaker; if the other options
people have sent do not work for you.
On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 12:46 PM Gerald Payton via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
> GETTING STARTED:
>
> I realize that many Amsat OPs are using handheld antennas and operating
> portable. However, I am planning a base station using my Kenwood TS-2000.
> I do not visualize myself operating portable primarily that I do not have
> needed radios etc. and my age. UGH!
>
> I further realize that using some sort of recorder during a pass is almost
> a MUST HAVE. Besides the obvious for base station operations of a digital
> of an analog recorder; what other options would some of you seasoned OPs
> suggest.
>
> I know that the TS-2000 does have a recorder accessory (DRU-3A) but
> finding one might be a challenge due to the age of the radio.
>
> Thanks and 73,
> Jerry AB5R
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73,
Don KB2YSI
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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2020 22:27:34 -0500
From: Joe <nss@???.???>
To: Amsat - BBs <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] HEO & Geo Orbits,
Message-ID: <d5aed227-4eba-7009-7056-c407846a4151@???.???>
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OK getting into a LEO orbit isn't all that hard.
How about a mission of a Nice linear bird, But? why not add Musk's ION
engine to it,? and just let it burn till it eventually gets into a HEO
orbit or GEO orbit. even if it takes years to get there who cares?
Joe WB9SBD
--
Sig
The Original Rolling Ball Clock
Idle Tyme
Idle-Tyme.com
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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2020 20:45:34 -0700
From: W3AB/GEO <w3ab@?????.???>
To: Joe <nss@???.???>
Cc: Amsat - BBs <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] HEO & Geo Orbits,
Message-ID: <68751ce1-4472-4826-8f75-20bbdbb1d9df@?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
You know, a number of posts ago I asked if any of the current BOD could pick
up the phone and make a personal call to any of the shakers & movers in the
current space world.
DEAD silence!
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Sent from my two way wrist watch
73 de W3AB/GEO?
On Aug 19, 2020, 20:32, at 20:32, Joe via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>OK getting into a LEO orbit isn't all that hard.
>
>How about a mission of a Nice linear bird, But? why not add Musk's ION
>engine to it,? and just let it burn till it eventually gets into a HEO
>orbit or GEO orbit. even if it takes years to get there who cares?
>
>Joe WB9SBD
>--
>Sig
>The Original Rolling Ball Clock
>Idle Tyme
>Idle-Tyme.com
>http://www.idle-tyme.com
>_______________________________________________
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>to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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>are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
>of AMSAT-NA.
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>program!
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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2020 20:51:52 -0700
From: Jim Walls <jim@?????.???>
To: Amsat-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] HEO & Geo Orbits,
Message-ID: <83132780-6941-706c-f2d1-4dc4056f664d@?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
On 08/19/2020 20:45, W3AB/GEO via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> You know, a number of posts ago I asked if any of the current BOD could
pick up the phone and make a personal call to any of the shakers & movers in
the current space world.
>
> DEAD silence!
>
It may not have been YOUR suggestion, but I recall that one has been
answered.? As I recall reading here, AMSAT HAS been in contact with
various launch providers.? And no, I'm not going to do the research for
you to find it (I don't keep all messages on this reflector).
--
73
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Jim Walls - K6CCC
jim@?????.???
Ofc: 818-548-4804
http://members.dslextreme.com/users/k6ccc/
AMSAT Member 32537 - WSWSS Member 395
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