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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: APRS Messaging QSOs (Steve Kristoff)
   2. APRS Messaging QSOs (Stephen DeVience)
   3. Re: APRS Messaging QSOs (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK))
   4. Re: APRS Messaging QSOs (Robert Bankston)
   5. Re: APRS Messaging QSOs (Fernando Ramirez)
   6. Re: APRS Messaging QSOs (Jeff Johns)
   7. Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2020-08-26 22:00	UTC
      (aj9n@???.????
   8. Re: APRS Messaging QSOs (kb2mjeff@???.????
   9. Re: APRS Messaging QSOs (GEO Badger)


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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2020 15:30:00 -0400
From: "Steve Kristoff" <skristof@???????.???>
To: "Robert Bankston" <ke4al@?????.???>, "Robert Bankston"
<ke4al@?????.???>, 	"AMSAT BB" <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] APRS Messaging QSOs
Message-ID: <3d0b7c607ab273aca9688ede2ef8f38e@???????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8


UISS will do a lot of that.

?http://users.belgacom.net/hamradio/uiss.htm

You need to use something like Soundmodem or Direwolf with it but it works
pretty well. I've done "QSOs" with it.


Steve AI9IN

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----- Original Message -----
From: Robert Bankston via AMSAT-BB (amsat-bb@?????.????
Date: 08/26/20 15:03
To: AMSAT BB (amsat-bb@?????.????
Subject: [amsat-bb] APRS Messaging QSOs

It's a shame that their are not more APRS messaging satellite QSOs being
done via ARISS and other satellites. ?Is this because...
* Lack of equipment? ?* Erratic operational schedules? ?* Proliferation of
non-attended stations (beacons)? ?* Too much button pushing?
Most ops you an HT and very few of those have APRS messaging capability.
?Those HT's that do (including mobiles) are a bit clunky and require fast
thumbs to complete all of the necessary steps to complete a QSO. ?Of course
the more you do it, the more second nature it becomes, but that circles back
to the erratic scheduling.
One solution could be to develop an app or software with prescribed message
formatting and QSO automation, similar to similar FT8.
(click on target call in station list) ?* [Target Call] [My Call] [My Grid]
?* [My Call] [Target Call] (Target Grid] ?* R [Target Grid] ?* RR [My Grid]
?(click on log QSO)
Single board computers could easily handle the task (even the Pi Zero), for
those worried about keeping their station small. Only thing left would be a
microarduino TNC or soundcard and a couple cables to the HT mic and earphone
jacks.
Just a thought.
73, Robert KE4AL
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2020 15:48:06 -0400
From: Stephen DeVience <sjdevience@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] APRS Messaging QSOs
Message-ID:
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

I regularly try making APRS QSOs with my TH-D72 and a yagi, and I'm
occasionally successful.
I find the ARISS digipeater is difficult to get into with that setup. I'm
not sure if it's an equipment issue or if the station blocks the antenna
somehow. Hopefully they get the upgraded system going soon.
The automatic beacon stations also don't help, since they just cause
collisions. I put "live" in my beacon message so ops know they can try to
QSO with me.
PSAT is easier, but the APRS is barely ever on.
Falconsat seems more reliable, but with fewer operators on it.
Finally, I've found even terrestrial APRS to require more power than FM
voice in order to work reliably.

-Stephen, N8URE


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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2020 20:05:22 +0000
From: "Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)" <amsat-bb@??????.???>
To: AMSAT <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] APRS Messaging QSOs
Message-ID:
<CAN6TEUfWhJDHutUc9dyvNXPb_z51efvSHakYFKwSf5_n2uv79Q@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

Robert,

There are a few issues at play currently...

1. Availability of orbiting digipeaters. The current ISS packet system
appears to be hard of hearing. It can hear strong signals, and those
with lower-power stations - like the APRS-ready HTs - are only able to
get through on the higher passes. If the new ISS radio and power supply
are installed and set to operate an APRS digipeater, this issue with
the ISS digipeater may go away.

Besides the ISS, NO-84's digipeater is rarely on. FalconSat-3 is
available, but that requires more sophisticated radio gear due to its
use of 9600bps packet and operating cross-band. FalconSat can be worked
with just a Kenwood TH-D72 or TM-D710G, as those radios support cross-
band packet at 9600bps, and (try to) do that full-duplex.

2. Unattended stations. This has been an issue for a long time on
145.825 MHz. It is not legal for US stations to operate in the
145.800-146.000 MHz and 435-438 MHz subbands unattended, yet it
happens. I referenced this in articles I wrote for the AMSAT Journal
and QST in the past couple of years, and those are available from the
"Articles" folder in my Dropbox space at http://dropbox.wd9ewk.net/

3. Button-pushing. It can take many presses to generate a very short
message using a DTMF keypad on APRS-ready radios. Some of the radios,
the Kenwood HTs and mobile radios in particular, provide a way to store
prepared messages (they are called "phrases" in the Kenwood manuals)
that can be called up with fewer button presses. Others use programs
like UISS on a Windows system to handle APRS, including messaging.
UISS can work with software like AGWPE or SoundModem, avoiding the need
for a TNC.

The APRS messaging protocol takes care of showing the sender and
recipient. This can leave the message text to convey information like a
grid locator(s) and state, or a "TNX/73" at the end of a QSO. The AMSAT
Journal article I co-wrote about packet on the TH-D72 and TH-D74, which
is available from:

https://www.amsat.org/station-and-operating-hints/

described my message setup. I store 3 prepared messages in my radios,
and normally use two of the 3 in making QSOs, following the process
outlined in AMSAT Field Day rules for a complete QSO.

A small computer could be useful here, allowing more radios to be used
with the orbiting packet digipeaters. A TNC probably isn't needed, if
the audio hardware on the computer is connected to the radio's speaker
and mic jacks. If the small computer could compile a list of stations
heard, and the user could select one of those stations for a message,
that could reduce the button pressing needed to send messages.

Hoping for the new ISS radio and power supply to be installed and
activated soon...






Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/
Twitter: @?????? or http://twitter.com/WD9EWK






On Wed, Aug 26, 2020 at 7:02 PM Robert Bankston via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:

> It's a shame that their are not more APRS messaging satellite QSOs being
> done via ARISS and other satellites.  Is this because...
>   * Lack of equipment?  * Erratic operational schedules?  * Proliferation
> of non-attended stations (beacons)?  * Too much button pushing?
> Most ops you an HT and very few of those have APRS messaging capability.
> Those HT's that do (including mobiles) are a bit clunky and require fast
> thumbs to complete all of the necessary steps to complete a QSO.  Of course
> the more you do it, the more second nature it becomes, but that circles
> back to the erratic scheduling.
> One solution could be to develop an app or software with prescribed
> message formatting and QSO automation, similar to similar FT8.
>   (click on target call in station list)  * [Target Call] [My Call] [My
> Grid]  * [My Call] [Target Call] (Target Grid]  * R [Target Grid]  * RR [My
> Grid]  (click on log QSO)
> Single board computers could easily handle the task (even the Pi Zero),
> for those worried about keeping their station small. Only thing left would
> be a microarduino TNC or soundcard and a couple cables to the HT mic and
> earphone jacks.
> Just a thought.
> 73, Robert KE4AL
>
>


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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2020 20:43:35 +0000 (UTC)
From: Robert Bankston <ke4al@?????.???>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] APRS Messaging QSOs
Message-ID: <1017482055.8134172.1598474615449@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

I was not aware of the TNC from Mobilinkd, so thanks for the tip.
??
Interesting that their newest version includes BT connectivity to a
smartphone app - something that almost every op has handy when making
"portable" sat QSOs.? It's compatible with APRSdroid and they are working on
adding iOS.
??
A prescribed format APRS message app, running on a smartphone, would be an
interesting alternative to the raspberry pi route.? The TNC's small form
factor would make it more usable.
??
$120 is a reasonable solution for those who do not want to build one.? For
the more adventurous types, building one looks like only $20-$30 worth of
parts.
??
NOTE: I own APRS capable HTs and Mobiles and have made APRS QSOs; however, I
am exploring ways to make APRS messaging more accessible and more enjoyable
for everyone.? I think automating/symplifying the QSO process, with a
low-cost add on to existing equipment, could do that.
??
Robert KE4AL


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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2020 13:59:05 -0700
From: Fernando Ramirez <framirezferrer@?????.???>
To: Robert Bankston <ke4al@?????.???>, Robert Bankston
<ke4al@?????.???>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] APRS Messaging QSOs
Message-ID:
<CAGHXx8g8q1GLcB7jk+HhZRBMXuZ4kSGQwXAHwzf7sah_qWRmDQ@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

I use a combination of an HT or mobile rig connected to a Mobilinkd for
APRS messages.

If connected to an Android phone you can use APRSdroid plus a keyboard with
macros like CanalRun to quickly exchange preconfigured messages.

The TNC can also be paired via Bluetooth to a PC or Raspberry Pi.

73
Fernando KF7R

On Wed, Aug 26, 2020, 1:45 PM Robert Bankston via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:

> I was not aware of the TNC from Mobilinkd, so thanks for the tip.
>
> Interesting that their newest version includes BT connectivity to a
> smartphone app - something that almost every op has handy when making
> "portable" sat QSOs.  It's compatible with APRSdroid and they are working
> on adding iOS.
>
> A prescribed format APRS message app, running on a smartphone, would be an
> interesting alternative to the raspberry pi route.  The TNC's small form
> factor would make it more usable.
>
> $120 is a reasonable solution for those who do not want to build one.  For
> the more adventurous types, building one looks like only $20-$30 worth of
> parts.
>
> NOTE: I own APRS capable HTs and Mobiles and have made APRS QSOs; however,
> I am exploring ways to make APRS messaging more accessible and more
> enjoyable for everyone.  I think automating/symplifying the QSO process,
> with a low-cost add on to existing equipment, could do that.
>
> Robert KE4AL
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>


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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2020 16:04:01 -0500
From: Jeff Johns <jeff30339@?????.???>
To: AMSAT Mailing List <Amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] APRS Messaging QSOs
Message-ID:
<CA+QOuE6POH_V8yST0yksYXUg-g020v=WhQSbD51C5uPrEEYtmw@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

There are a couple reasons why more people are active on the ISS digipeater
(IMHO):

It's somewhat deaf.
The barrage of unattended stations that beacon every few seconds.

With that said, it's still easy to work and a lot of fun. I frequently work
it using a vintage Kenwood TH-D7 and an Arrow. What makes it more fun
(challenging) for me is that the D7 cannot store 'canned' messages and I
have to type out each message in T9 format, live, during the pass.

Even with all the garbage, unattended stations beaconning their email
addresses and other junk, it's still quite possible to make contacts. As
long as there are these unattended stations, it will make working APRS via
the ISS challenging. It may be challenging, but it's definitely not
impossible. There's really no need for things such as a Raspberry Pi or
other equipment, an old (20+ years) HT like my D7 is still plenty capable
of making contacts on the ISS, NO-84 (when it's on) and FalconSat-3.

My suggestion would be for the organization to work on educating the masses
about unattended operation on the APRS capable satellites. By removing that
QRM, it will make it much easier for live operators to have successful QSOs.

Jeff WE4B
http://we4bravo.com

On Wed, Aug 26, 2020 at 2:57 PM Robert Bankston via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:

> It's a shame that their are not more APRS messaging satellite QSOs being
> done via ARISS and other satellites.  Is this because...
>   * Lack of equipment?  * Erratic operational schedules?  * Proliferation
> of non-attended stations (beacons)?  * Too much button pushing?
> Most ops you an HT and very few of those have APRS messaging capability.
> Those HT's that do (including mobiles) are a bit clunky and require fast
> thumbs to complete all of the necessary steps to complete a QSO.  Of course
> the more you do it, the more second nature it becomes, but that circles
> back to the erratic scheduling.
> One solution could be to develop an app or software with prescribed
> message formatting and QSO automation, similar to similar FT8.
>   (click on target call in station list)  * [Target Call] [My Call] [My
> Grid]  * [My Call] [Target Call] (Target Grid]  * R [Target Grid]  * RR [My
> Grid]  (click on log QSO)
> Single board computers could easily handle the task (even the Pi Zero),
> for those worried about keeping their station small. Only thing left would
> be a microarduino TNC or soundcard and a couple cables to the HT mic and
> earphone jacks.
> Just a thought.
> 73, Robert KE4AL
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>


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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2020 22:15:23 +0000 (UTC)
From: aj9n@???.???
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2020-08-26
22:00	UTC
Message-ID: <1457761593.5981306.1598480123382@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8


Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2020-08-26 22:00 UTC

?

Quick list of scheduled contacts and events:

?

The KMO Kolska Wyspa, Ko?o, Poland, telebridge via VK6MJ (***)

The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS (***)

The scheduled astronaut is Chris Cassidy KF5KDR

Contact is go for: Wed 2020-09-02 12:58:11 UTC 75 deg (***)

?

Watch for live stream at https://ariss.pzk.org.pl/live/ (***)

?

##############################################################################
##########################################################

?

A multi-point telebridge contact means that each student will be on the
telebridge from their own home.

*************************************************

?

ARISS is very aware of the impact that COVID-19 is having on schools and the
public in general.? As such, we may have last minute cancellations or
postponements of school contacts.? As always, I will try to provide everyone
with near-real-time updates.?

?

The following schools have now been postponed or cancelled due to COVID-19:?

?

Postponed:

Maine Regional School Unit #21, Kennebunk, ME (***)

Oakwood School, Morgan Hill, CA (***)

?

Cancelled:

Monroe Carrell Jr. Children's Hospital at Vanderbilt, Nashville, TN (***)

?

?

?

The ARISS webpage is at https://www.ariss.org/ ???

?

Watch for future COVID-19 related announcements here also.

?

?

Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site.

?

The main page for Applying to Host a Scheduled Contact may be found at
https://www.ariss.org/apply-to-host-an-ariss-contact.html ???

ARISS Contact Applications (United States)

?

?

Note, all times are approximate. ?It is recommended that you do your own

orbital prediction?or start listening about 10 minutes before the listed

time.

All dates and times listed follow International Standard ISO 8601 date and

time format YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS

?

The complete schedule page has been updated as of?2020-08-26 22:00 UTC. (***)

Here you will find a listing of all scheduled?school contacts, and

questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and Echolink websites, and

instructions for any contact that may be streamed live.

?

https://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf

https://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.txt

?

?

The successful school list has been updated as of 2020-08-24 15:00 UTC.

https://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf

?

?

?

The ARISS webpage is at https://www.ariss.org/ ???

Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site.

?

The main page for Applying to Host a Scheduled Contact may be found at
https://www.ariss.org/apply-to-host-an-ariss-contact.html ???

?

ARISS Contact Applications (United States)

?

The ARISS webpage is at https://www.ariss.org/ ???

Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site.

?

?

Message to US Educators

?

ARISS Contact Applications (United States)

?

The Proposal Window of February 1, 2020 to March 31, 2020 has now closed.

?

For future proposal information and more details such as expectations,
proposal guidelines and proposal form, and dates and times of Information
Webinars, go to www.ariss.org.

?

Please direct any questions to?ariss.us.education@?????.???.

?

About ARISS:

?

Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS) is a cooperative
venture of international amateur radio societies and the space agencies that
support the International Space Station (ISS).? In the United States,
sponsors are the Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT), the American
Radio Relay League (ARRL), the ISS National Lab and National Aeronautics and
Space Administration (NASA). The primary goal of ARISS is to promote
exploration of science, technology, engineering, and mathematics (STEAM)
topics by organizing scheduled contacts via amateur radio between crew
members aboard the ISS and students in classrooms or public forms. Before
and during these radio contacts, students, educators, parents, and
communities learn about space, space technologies, and amateur radio. For
more information, see www.ariss.org.

?

******************************************************************************
**

ARISS Contact Applications (Europe, Africa and the Middle East)

?

Schools and Youth organizations in Europe, Africa and the Middle East
interested in setting up an ARISS radio contact with an astronaut on board
the International Space Station are invited to submit an application from
September to October and from February to April.

Please refer to details and the application form at
www.ariss-eu.org/school-contacts.? Applications should be addressed by email
to:? school.selection.manager@????????.???

?

ARISS Contact Applications (Canada, Central and South America, Asia and
Australia and Russia)

?

Organizations outside the United States can apply for an ARISS contact by
filling out an application.? Please direct questions to the appropriate
regional representative listed below. If your country is not specifically
listed, send your questions to the nearest ARISS Region listed. If you are
unsure which address to use, please send your question to the ARISS-Canada
representative; they will forward your question to the appropriate
coordinator.

?

For the application, go to:? https://www.ariss.org/ariss-application.html.

ARISS-Canada and the Americas, except USA: Steve McFarlane, VE3TBD email to:
ve3tbd@?????.???

ARISS-Japan, Asia, Pacific and Australia: Satoshi Yasuda, 7M3TJZ email to:
ariss@???????.???? Japan Amateur Radio League (JARL) https://www.jarl.org/

ARISS-Russia: Soyuz Radioljubitelei Rossii (SRR) https://srr.ru/

?

?

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ARISS is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts.?
ARISS thanks everyone in advance for their assistance.? Feel free to send
your reports to aj9n@?????.??? or aj9n@???.???.

?

Listen for the ISS on the downlink of 145.8? MHz.

?

******************************************************************************
*

?

All ARISS contacts are made via the Kenwood radio unless otherwise noted.

?

******************************************************************************
*


Several of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and
not being able to get in. ?That has now been changed to https://www.ariss.org/

?

Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site.

?

****************************************************************************

Looking for something new to do?? How about receiving DATV from the ISS??
Please note that the HamTV system has been brought back to earth for
troubleshooting.? Please monitor ARISS-EU or ARISS-ON for the very latest
news on the troubleshooting efforts.?

?

If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for complete details.?
Look for the buttons indicating Ham Video.????????????

?

http://www.ariss-eu.org/

?

If you need some assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to
provide some insight. ?Contact Kerry at kbanke@?????????.???

?

?

The HamTV webpage:? https://www.amsat-on.be/hamtv-summary/

?

?

****************************************************************************
ARISS congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100
schools:

?

Francesco IK?WGF with 140

Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 138

Sergey RV3DR with 135

Gaston ON4WF with 123

?

****************************************************************************

The webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy. Out of date

webpages were removed, and new ones have been added.? If there are additional

ARISS websites I need to know about, please let me know.

?

?

?

Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1396.

Each school counts as 1 event.??????????????????????????????????

Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 1329.

Each contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot.

Total number of ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is 48.

?

A complete year by year breakdown of the contacts may be found in the

file.

https://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf

?

Please feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are needed.

?

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++



The following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact:
South Dakota, Wyoming, American?Samoa, Guam, Northern Marianas Islands, and
the Virgin Islands.

?

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

?

QSL information may be found at:

https://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html

?

ISS callsigns: DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS, RS?ISS

?

****************************************************************************



Frequency chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing

Doppler correction as of 2005-07-29 04:00 UTC

https://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction.
rtf



Check out the Zoho reports of the ARISS contacts

?

https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415

****************************************************************************

?

Exp. 62 now on orbit

Chris Cassidy KF5KDR

Anatoli Ivanishin

Ivan Vagner

****************************************************************************

73,

Charlie?Sufana AJ9N
One of the ARISS operation team mentors

?

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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2020 19:47:22 -0400
From: <kb2mjeff@???.???>
To: "'Robert Bankston'" <ke4al@?????.???>,	"'Robert Bankston'"
<ke4al@?????.???>
Cc: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] APRS Messaging QSOs
Message-ID: <000101d67c03$3f0beaa0$bd23bfe0$@???.???>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="utf-8"

Here is something I used to  use to type in messages while mobile with my
D-700 years ago. It worked great for typing in APRS messages in the Kenwood
radios...

https://www.eham.net/reviews/view-product?id=4960

I wonder if it is still available, what do you think John?

73 Jeff kb2m

amsat-bb@?????.???
-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb-bounces@?????.???> On Behalf Of Robert Bankston via
AMSAT-BB
Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2020 4:44 PM
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] APRS Messaging QSOs

I was not aware of the TNC from Mobilinkd, so thanks for the tip.

Interesting that their newest version includes BT connectivity to a
smartphone app - something that almost every op has handy when making
"portable" sat QSOs.  It's compatible with APRSdroid and they are working on
adding iOS.

A prescribed format APRS message app, running on a smartphone, would be an
interesting alternative to the raspberry pi route.  The TNC's small form
factor would make it more usable.

$120 is a reasonable solution for those who do not want to build one.  For
the more adventurous types, building one looks like only $20-$30 worth of
parts.

NOTE: I own APRS capable HTs and Mobiles and have made APRS QSOs; however, I
am exploring ways to make APRS messaging more accessible and more enjoyable
for everyone.  I think automating/symplifying the QSO process, with a
low-cost add on to existing equipment, could do that.

Robert KE4AL
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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2020 23:57:27 +0000 (UTC)
From: GEO Badger <w3ab@?????.???>
To: 'Robert Bankston' <ke4al@?????.???>, 'Robert Bankston'
<ke4al@?????.???>, 	"kb2mjeff@???.???? <kb2mjeff@???.???>
Cc: "amsat-bb@?????.???? <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] APRS Messaging QSOs
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Alas, no longer available.
---?
 Ciao baby, catch you on the flip side??
73 de W3AB/GEO ???

 http://www.w3ab.org

You can say "over", you can say "out", you just can't say "over and out".

    On Wednesday, August 26, 2020, 04:49:55 PM PDT, Jeff via AMSAT-BB
<amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:

 Here is something I used to? use to type in messages while mobile with my
D-700 years ago. It worked great for typing in APRS messages in the Kenwood
radios...

https://www.eham.net/reviews/view-product?id=4960

I wonder if it is still available, what do you think John?

73 Jeff kb2m

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From: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb-bounces@?????.???> On Behalf Of Robert Bankston via
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Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2020 4:44 PM
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] APRS Messaging QSOs

I was not aware of the TNC from Mobilinkd, so thanks for the tip.
?
Interesting that their newest version includes BT connectivity to a
smartphone app - something that almost every op has handy when making
"portable" sat QSOs.? It's compatible with APRSdroid and they are working on
adding iOS.
?
A prescribed format APRS message app, running on a smartphone, would be an
interesting alternative to the raspberry pi route.? The TNC's small form
factor would make it more usable.
?
$120 is a reasonable solution for those who do not want to build one.? For
the more adventurous types, building one looks like only $20-$30 worth of
parts.
?
NOTE: I own APRS capable HTs and Mobiles and have made APRS QSOs; however, I
am exploring ways to make APRS messaging more accessible and more enjoyable
for everyone.? I think automating/symplifying the QSO process, with a
low-cost add on to existing equipment, could do that.
?
Robert KE4AL
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