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Today's Topics:
1. VP2MKV 2012Z PASS (Jim White)
2. UT1FG/mm (Glenn Miller - AA5PK)
3. UT1FG/mm (Glenn A. Miller)
4. UT1FG/mm (Nicholas Mahr)
5. Re: UT1FG/mm (Clayton Coleman)
6. UT1FG/mm (Nicholas Mahr)
7. Re: PSAT digipeating and Position Knowledge (Robert Bruninga)
8. Re: UT1FG/mm (Dave Webb KB1PVH)
9. Re: UT1FG/mm (Paul Stoetzer)
10. Re: UT1FG/mm (Glenn Miller - AA5PK)
11. Re: UT1FG/mm (Dave Webb KB1PVH)
12. Re: UT1FG/mm (Sean K.)
13. Re: UT1FG/mm (Dave Webb KB1PVH)
14. LoTW and NO-83,84 (David W0DHB)
15. APRS Satgate Antenna page (Robert Bruninga)
16. AO-7 Missing from Kep's list. (GW1FKY@xxx.xxxx
17. AO73 mode change (Jim Heck)
18. DYI Comms and Control for Amateur Space ... (Rick Walter)
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 16:36:33 -0400
From: Jim White <jim@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] VP2MKV 2012Z PASS
Message-ID: <55832BD1.9000205@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
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Worked the following:
KE8AKW
WA4SCA
K4FEG
W0DHB
N0LM
K0MDJ (MPJ?), can't ready my scribble
AJ9K
Thanks to everyone who worked us. This was our last pass of the
expedition. We will scramble to take down and pack up antennas in the
morning and must have the crate sealed by noon - with the Arrow inside.
In the afternoon and evening we will operate HF with equipment that
stays here at Gingerbread Hill, then leave very early Saturday.
73,
Jim
VP2MJW (WD0E) operating VP2MKV(HF and sat) and VP2MTT (6 meters - where
we have am amazing 502 contacts)
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 20:58:46 -0500
From: "Glenn Miller - AA5PK" <aa5pk@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: "AMSAT BBS" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>, "Star-Com BB"
<starcom-BB@xxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] UT1FG/mm
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Worked Yuri on SO-50. He was in EL83. Maritime Traffic oddly shows his
destination as "La Habana."
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 20:52:45 -0500
From: "Glenn A. Miller" <gamiller1@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: "AMSAT BBS" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>, "Star-Com BB"
<starcom-BB@xxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] UT1FG/mm
Message-ID: <0AC4DD39BFBA491CAE201F5E8BF4BBE7@xxxxxxx>
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Worked Yuri on SO-50. He was in EL83. Maritime Traffic oddly shows his
destination as "La Habana."
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 23:50:03 -0400
From: Nicholas Mahr <nicholasmahr1@xxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] UT1FG/mm
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Yep, worked him as well in EL83, near cuba havvana... Hope he gets active
again, I have 25+ grids still unconfirmed with him!
73 KE8AKW
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2015 07:41:38 -0500
From: Clayton Coleman <kayakfishtx@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Nicholas Mahr <nicholasmahr1@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] UT1FG/mm
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Nick,
Yuri and I had a PSK31 QSO yesterday on 20m. He indicated his next
destination would be New Orleans, Louisiana. After that port, his
plans take him home after a trans-Atlantic voyage.
73
Clayton
W5PFG
On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 10:50 PM, Nicholas Mahr <nicholasmahr1@xxxxx.xxx>
wrote:
> Yep, worked him as well in EL83, near cuba havvana... Hope he gets active
> again, I have 25+ grids still unconfirmed with him!
>
> 73 KE8AKW
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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2015 11:05:42 -0400
From: Nicholas Mahr <nicholasmahr1@xxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] UT1FG/mm
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Thanks for info Clayton, If I get all these grids confirmed from him, I can
get VUCC Satellite... My dad needs VUCC in Satellite and in vhf/uhf as
well...
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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2015 11:36:43 -0400
From: Robert Bruninga <bruninga@xxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] PSAT digipeating and Position Knowledge
Message-ID: <7a7a0d9b97fe8c94316e6c1291d5c1cd@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
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We successfully sent commands to re-write PSAT EPROM values to correct the
Orbit clock. It worked. Over a few days, we will fine tune the value and
be able to turn on PSAT Position reporting.
In looking at the orbit timing, we also came up with these factoids.
PSAT passes are almost exacrtly 15 minutes earlier every day. (14.7 minutes
actually)
And the time between orbits is almost exactly 100 minutes (1 hour 40
minutes).
You can use these to plan your ?free time?? without needin? no stinkin?
computer
Bob, Wb4APR
An aging Luddite
*From:* Robert Bruninga [mailto:bruninga@xxxx.xxxx
*Sent:* Thursday, June 18, 2015 7:34 AM
*To:* amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
*Cc:* bruninga@xxxx.xxx
*Subject:* PSAT digipeating and Position Knowledge
PSAT continues to work well, both APRS and PSK31. The downlink capture on
the PCSAT.APRS.ORG page captures most PSAT packets, but does not capture
any digipeated users if they use the ARISS path. Although PSAT supports
the VIA ARISS alias so that users can use both ISS and PSAT without
changing parameters the FINDU page does not recognize it.
At this point it is unclear what paths that FINDU recognizes.
These paths are supposed to be digipeated by PSAT:
VIA ARISS
VIA APRSAT
VIA PSAT
VIA WIDEn-N
Here is what we know:
ARISS is not recognized by FINDU.
We are not sure if FINDU recognizes APRSAT
We are not sure if PSAT recognizes PSAT
We have seen VIA WIDEn-N work on FINDU
We have been busy with deadlines on our next satellite, but yesterday we
figured a workaround on the PSAT ORBIT and MA clock. This morning we sent
the commands and will be watching to see if they work. If they did, then
PSAT will be able to know where it is, and then we can activate its APRS
POSITION packets plus individual beacons over individual continents.
Although the S#OOOMM? telemetry was supposed to be ORBIT number and MINUTE
of that orbit, the clock is totally off. SO instead of going from 0 to 95
minutes per orbit, the actual count is more like 0-61 minutes per orbit.
So, if this works, then MM is not real minutes, but is a number between 00
to 61 on every orbit. And 0 should be when the satellite crosses the
equator (actually 5 South latitude) on every orbit northbound.
Once we get that under control, then PSAT will know where it is, and it
will be able to report its own position. And we can activate its attitude
control, and we can activate different bulletins over each continent.
Bob, WB4APR
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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2015 11:39:48 -0400
From: Dave Webb KB1PVH <kb1pvh@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Nicholas Mahr <nicholasmahr1@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT -BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] UT1FG/mm
Message-ID:
<CAEMY9FdKnB+DJratzvJgSx5et-CmofS_-xymt19Vax_5MQtxeg@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
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Nick,
Double check ARRL rules about /MM grids for awards.
Dave-KB1PVH
Sent from my Samsung S4
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Message: 9
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2015 11:50:14 -0400
From: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx>
To: Dave Webb KB1PVH <kb1pvh@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT -BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>, Nicholas Mahr
<nicholasmahr1@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] UT1FG/mm
Message-ID:
<CABzOSOr_BgYfpvb5KccRoDvPDia9pF-noQAVPrb=au762WBjBQ@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
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/MM grids are valid for VUCC...otherwise why would we all be getting
up at all hours of the night to work him in different ones?
73,
Paul, N8HM
On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 11:39 AM, Dave Webb KB1PVH <kb1pvh@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> Nick,
>
> Double check ARRL rules about /MM grids for awards.
>
> Dave-KB1PVH
>
> Sent from my Samsung S4
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Message: 10
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2015 10:53:49 -0500
From: "Glenn Miller - AA5PK" <aa5pk@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: "Dave Webb KB1PVH" <kb1pvh@xxxxx.xxx>, "Nicholas Mahr"
<nicholasmahr1@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT -BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] UT1FG/mm
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>From http://www.arrl.org/files/file/DXCC/VHF%20UHF%20Rules20141pdf.pdf
"Contacts with aeronautical mobiles (in the air) do NOT count, but maritime
mobiles are okay."
-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Webb KB1PVH
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 10:39 AM
To: Nicholas Mahr
Cc: AMSAT -BB
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] UT1FG/mm
Nick,
Double check ARRL rules about /MM grids for awards.
Dave-KB1PVH
Sent from my Samsung S4
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Message: 11
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2015 11:52:39 -0400
From: Dave Webb KB1PVH <kb1pvh@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT -BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>, Nicholas Mahr
<nicholasmahr1@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] UT1FG/mm
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Good question Paul, but I thought I had read somewhere that they weren't.
I'm more than happy to be corrected.
Dave-KB1PVH
Sent from my Samsung S4
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Message: 12
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2015 15:52:40 +0000 (UTC)
From: "Sean K." <kx9x@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx>, Dave Webb KB1PVH <kb1pvh@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT -BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>, Nicholas Mahr
<nicholasmahr1@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] UT1FG/mm
Message-ID:
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Indeed. They most definitely count for VUCC.
?Sean Kutzko
Amateur Radio KX9X
From: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx>
To: Dave Webb KB1PVH <kb1pvh@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT -BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>; Nicholas Mahr <nicholasmahr1@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 11:50 AM
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] UT1FG/mm
/MM grids are valid for VUCC...otherwise why would we all be getting
up at all hours of the night to work him in different ones?
73,
Paul, N8HM
On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 11:39 AM, Dave Webb KB1PVH <kb1pvh@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> Nick,
>
> Double check ARRL rules about /MM grids for awards.
>
> Dave-KB1PVH
>
> Sent from my Samsung S4
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
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Message: 13
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2015 11:54:30 -0400
From: Dave Webb KB1PVH <kb1pvh@xxxxx.xxx>
To: "Sean K." <kx9x@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx>, AMSAT -BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>,
Nicholas Mahr <nicholasmahr1@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] UT1FG/mm
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I was wrong once before, but realized it was just a mistake ;)
Dave-KB1PVH
Sent from my Samsung S4
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Message: 14
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2015 10:19:38 -0600
From: "David W0DHB" <dave@xxxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] LoTW and NO-83,84
Message-ID: <004301d0aaab$bdccf5c0$3966e140$@xxxxx.xxx>
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The latest LoTW config file allows LoTW to recognize NO-83 and NO-84.
Running TSQL 2.0.1 and above will bring up a menu to let you update.
You don't see the update option if uploading from logging software.
Dave
W0DHB
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Message: 15
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2015 15:56:15 -0400
From: Robert Bruninga <bruninga@xxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] APRS Satgate Antenna page
Message-ID: <bb7410a8f8945f108d9463042afd8627@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Since the ideal APRS Satellite IGate OMNI antenna is exactly the opposite
of the typical terrestrial IGaate antenna, I prepared the following WEB
page:
http://aprs.org/aprs-satellite-igate-antennas.html
It shows how a vertical ? or ? wave VHF omni equals the performance of a
full OSCAR class array (over half the sky) but does it with no moving
parts. It makes up for the weak-signal horizon part of the sky by there
simply being more omni-IGates. The APRS-IS cloud with all of its IGates is
probably one of the largest spatially distributed satellite receiver system
in the world (?).
But with people used to the 10W transmitter on the ISS, just a few IGates
can capture just about every packet from the ISS horizon to horizon on a
whip. But with the 14 dB weaker signal from PSAT, we need more SatGates to
make up for their smaller skyprint. For the USA we need more than a dozen
such Omni-SATgates.
To see the significance of the weaker downlink from PSAT, look at the
successful IGates on the http://pcsat.aprs.org page compared to the IGates
that hear the ISS packets on http://ariss.net Both are listening on
145.825 and passing along every packet they hear. But only TRACKING IGates
or good vertical gain satgates hear PSAT. And since we want these running
24/7/365, we do NOT expect people wearing out motors when an omni will do
fine (if we have enough).
The page also shows how every SATgate with a HIGH and terrestrial type
antenna actually creates a DEADZONE around it, effectively blocking any
nearby user heaerd direct from appearing on any of the APRS-IS cloud
satellite web pages. Hence, Omni-satgate antennas should be low to
everything surrounding it w hile still seeing the sky above 30 degrees.
If your TH-D7 HT is just sitting there, not in use 99% of the time, then
just hook it to a vertical whip and let it be an IGate. With the low
antenna it will also probably be safe from all weather lightening too. Put
the UHF side on 435.350 and turn up the speaker. When PSAT PSK31 comes
into view, you can watch the PSK31 activity as a bonus!
Bob, WB4APR
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Message: 16
Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2015 05:52:01 -0400
From: GW1FKY@xxx.xxx
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-7 Missing from Kep's list.
Message-ID: <105043.2e6c1d44.42b691c1@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Hi,
I noted that in latest Kep's distribution list and also on the web page
- AO -7 has been omitted for some reason.
I did post to Ray my observation but had no response - Perhaps filtered to
stop him getting unwanted posting.
Using SATPC-32 it did cause a slight problem due to the fact the
satellites set up the boxes for tracking
and countdown got out of order.
I cut and pasted into my list, AO-7 keps from the Celestrak web site and
it corrected the problem
Regards
Ken Eaton
GW1FKY
Amsat- UK
Amsat NA
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Message: 17
Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2015 11:29:20 +0100
From: Jim Heck <jimlist@xxxx.xxx>
To: Jim Heck <jim@xxxxxx.xx.xxx>, AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO73 mode change
Message-ID: <55854080.50804@xxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
Hi All,
Just to advise that FUNcube-1 AO73 has just (at approx 1125 UTC) been
commanded into continuous amateur mode. We expect to change it back to
autonomous mode on Sunday pm.
Apols for not being able to switch last night, due to priorities on
command stations, other commitments, etc
Have FUN! And have a good Field Day in the USA!
73
Jim G3WGM
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Message: 18
Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2015 07:13:51 -0400
From: Rick Walter <wb3csy@xxxxx.xxx>
To: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] DYI Comms and Control for Amateur Space ...
Message-ID: <1C1AB167-FB1A-4B80-A888-509E8EF546AA@xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Just received this ad from Amazon this morning. I thought the group may like
to see what is out there.
Rick - WB3CSY
>
>
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/1449310664/ref=mp_s_a_1_sc_1?qid=1434798241&sr=8
-1-spell&pi=AC_SX110_SY165_QL70&keywords=DYI+comms+and+control
>
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