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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: S band (Zach Metzinger)
   2. Re: Vega rocket (VV16) launch expected 2nd september : 3
      Satellites with hamradio payload (Peter Goodhall (2M0SQL))
   3. Re: Vega rocket (VV16) launch expected 2nd september : 3
      Satellites with hamradio payload (Zach Metzinger)
   4. Re: AMSAT- 20% OFF ARRL's Energy Choices book (Rich Gopstein)
   5. Re: Vega rocket (VV16) launch expected 2nd september : 3
      Satellites with hamradio payload (Jim Walls)
   6. Re: Vega rocket (VV16) launch expected 2nd september : 3
      Satellites with hamradio payload (christophe.mcr)
   7. Vega rocket (VV16) launch has been postponed (christophe.mcr)
   8. Re: Vega rocket (VV16) launch expected 2nd september : 3
      Satellites with hamradio payload (Paul Stoetzer)
   9. Does the new ICOM IC-705 have a "Satellite Mode"?
      (gliderpilot@??????????.????
  10. Re: Does the new ICOM IC-705 have a "Satellite Mode"?
      (kb2mjeff@???.????
  11. Re: Does the new ICOM IC-705 have a "Satellite Mode"?
      (KI7UNJ Tucker)
  12. Re: Vega rocket (VV16) launch expected 2nd september : 3
      Satellites with hamradio payload (Zach Metzinger)
  13. Re: Does the new ICOM IC-705 have a "Satellite Mode"?
      (Peter Goodhall (2M0SQL))


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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2020 14:18:22 -0500
From: Zach Metzinger <zmetzing@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] S band
Message-ID: <4aa4d9f6-87c8-e38a-25d1-b864f61f501c@?????.???>
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On 09/01/20 11:52, 73 Bob W7LRD via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> Hello- I was thinking of blowing the dust of some of my AO-40 (sobsob)
equipment.  Is there anything, or will there be anything "up there" that has
S band capability?
> 73 Bob W7LRD

Hello Bob,

About 2 minutes into Jerry's "Two Minute Update":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9H4iM1hoVG4

S-band uplink is mentioned.

--- Zach
N0ZGO


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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2020 20:33:11 +0100
From: "Peter Goodhall (2M0SQL)" <peter@????????.??.??>
To: Zach Metzinger <zmetzing@?????.???>
Cc: Amsat <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Vega rocket (VV16) launch expected 2nd
september : 3 Satellites with hamradio payload
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While I agree in part a lot of the telemetry satellites launched using ham
freqs don't seem that relevant but in the case of Amicalsat it's highly
relevant with it's science payload.

Peter, 2M0SQL

On Tue, 1 Sep 2020, 20:17 Zach Metzinger via AMSAT-BB, <amsat-bb@?????.???>
wrote:

> On 09/01/20 13:05, Jim Walls via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> > Are any of these "amateur" payloads actually amateur usable
> > transponders, or are they just telemetry transmitters on amateur
> > frequencies?
>
> I second that sentiment, Jim. Seems like a lot of orbiting class
> projects, without much amateur relevance, using our bands.
>
> IMO, these should be Part 5 licenses in some other segment.
>
> --- Zach
> N0ZGO
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2020 14:42:00 -0500
From: Zach Metzinger <zmetzing@?????.???>
To: Amsat <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Vega rocket (VV16) launch expected 2nd
september : 3 Satellites with hamradio payload
Message-ID: <65309631-629d-b33b-1e5d-e103e484fb81@?????.???>
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On 09/01/20 14:33, Peter Goodhall (2M0SQL) wrote:
> While I agree in part a lot of the telemetry satellites launched using
> ham freqs don't seem that relevant but in the case of Amicalsat it's
> highly relevant with it's science payload.

Is "Amicalsat" a satellite manufactured by the for-profit "SatRevolution
S.A" company for csug.fr?

https://satrevolution.com/company/careers/

If so, it's even _less_ relevant to the mission of non-profit amateur
radio. If the two aren't related, then I'm mistaken.

In any case, it appears to be a space weather satellite to send pictures
down to earth. Do they even have an amateur callsign that will be
transmitted? This one-way transmission, without much benefit to those
outside the project, isn't furthering two-way amateur communications.

I respectfully disagree with you on its relevance in any way to amateur
radio.

--- Zach
N0ZGO


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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2020 15:55:41 -0400
From: Rich Gopstein <rich@????????????.???>
To: Robert Bruninga <bruninga@????.???>
Cc: amsat bb <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AMSAT- 20% OFF ARRL's Energy Choices book
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I bought the book when it was first published and I really enjoyed reading
it.

It covers a wide range of topics, and all of them were interesting in
various ways.

Rich, KD2CQ

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amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:

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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2020 13:03:03 -0700
From: Jim Walls <jim@?????.???>
To: Amsat-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Vega rocket (VV16) launch expected 2nd
september : 3 Satellites with hamradio payload
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On 09/01/2020 11:28, kd4iz@?????.??? wrote:
> there are
> 3 Sats according to the website in Christophes' email, not 53.  Must be a
> typo.

Actually there are 53 satellites on the launch - and one of those is
actually a launcher that will deploy 12 cubesats.
However, only three are using amateur frequencies.

--
73
-------------------------------------
Jim Walls - K6CCC
jim@?????.???
Ofc:  818-548-4804
http://members.dslextreme.com/users/k6ccc/
AMSAT Member 32537 - WSWSS Member 395



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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2020 22:22:25 +0200
From: "christophe.mcr" <christophe.mcr@?????.???>
To: Jim Walls <jim@?????.???>
Cc: Amsat-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Vega rocket (VV16) launch expected 2nd
september : 3 Satellites with hamradio payload
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53 satellites are onboard but only 3 have been coordinated by IARU and use
amateur frequency.

For Amicalsat  : A 2U CubeSat. AMICal Sat is an educational mission which
has been developed by UGA-CSUG and MSU-SINP during 30 month.
See :  http://www.amsatuk.me.uk/iaru/finished_detail.php?serialnum=686 and
http://amicalsat.univ-grenoble-alpes.fr/pages/the_mission
space weather data will be made available and could be used for propagation
calculations.

73

Christophe


Le mar. 1 sept. 2020 ? 22:06, Jim Walls via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???> a
?crit :

> On 09/01/2020 11:28, kd4iz@?????.??? wrote:
> > there are
> > 3 Sats according to the website in Christophes' email, not 53.  Must be a
> > typo.
>
> Actually there are 53 satellites on the launch - and one of those is
> actually a launcher that will deploy 12 cubesats.
> However, only three are using amateur frequencies.
>
> --
> 73
> -------------------------------------
> Jim Walls - K6CCC
> jim@?????.???
> Ofc:  818-548-4804
> http://members.dslextreme.com/users/k6ccc/
> AMSAT Member 32537 - WSWSS Member 395
>
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2020 22:24:16 +0200
From: "christophe.mcr" <christophe.mcr@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] Vega rocket (VV16) launch has been postponed
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Dear

The launch of Arianespace?s Small Spacecraft Mission Service (SSMS) Proof
of Concept flight with Vega has been postponed due to the storm track of
Typhoon Maysak over South Korea, which requires that the Jeju ground-based
telemetry station be protected.

Source : https://www.arianespace.com/mission-update/vv16-vega-weather-delay/

73

Christophe Mercier
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2020 16:44:16 -0400
From: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@????.???>
To: Zach Metzinger <zmetzing@?????.???>
Cc: Amsat <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Vega rocket (VV16) launch expected 2nd
september : 3 Satellites with hamradio payload
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AmicalSat's space weather observation is, in my mind, and apparently
in the IARU Satellite Advisor's mind, an "experiment relating to the
radio technique" which means it meets the definition of amateur. It is
important to remember that, while a great many of us got interested in
this aspect of the hobby due to the two-way communications aspect, the
amateur satellite service is broader. There are certainly satellites
up there transmitting on the amateur bands that should not be in our
bands, but I believe AmicalSat does fit.

As for the manufacturer of the satellite? While, I don't feel that's
relevant. I transmit on the amateur bands all the time with radios
built for me by Yaesu, Kenwood, Elecraft, and Alinco. A satellite is
best thought of as simply a piece of amateur station equipment, though
one that's a bit more expensive and specialized than a commercial
transceiver, and travelling faster and higher.

73,

Paul, N8HM

On Tue, Sep 1, 2020 at 3:47 PM Zach Metzinger via AMSAT-BB
<amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>
> On 09/01/20 14:33, Peter Goodhall (2M0SQL) wrote:
> > While I agree in part a lot of the telemetry satellites launched using
> > ham freqs don't seem that relevant but in the case of Amicalsat it's
> > highly relevant with it's science payload.
>
> Is "Amicalsat" a satellite manufactured by the for-profit "SatRevolution
> S.A" company for csug.fr?
>
> https://satrevolution.com/company/careers/
>
> If so, it's even _less_ relevant to the mission of non-profit amateur
> radio. If the two aren't related, then I'm mistaken.
>
> In any case, it appears to be a space weather satellite to send pictures
> down to earth. Do they even have an amateur callsign that will be
> transmitted? This one-way transmission, without much benefit to those
> outside the project, isn't furthering two-way amateur communications.
>
> I respectfully disagree with you on its relevance in any way to amateur
> radio.
>
> --- Zach
> N0ZGO
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
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AMSAT-NA.
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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 01 Sep 2020 19:34:07 +0000
From: gliderpilot@??????????.???
To: "amsat-bb@?????.???? <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Does the new ICOM IC-705 have a "Satellite Mode"?
Message-ID:
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Folks,

Does the new ICOM IC-705 have a "Satellite Mode" like the ICOM IC-9100?

73's de Oscar (N6PAZ)


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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2020 17:35:59 -0400
From: <kb2mjeff@???.???>
To: <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Does the new ICOM IC-705 have a "Satellite
Mode"?
Message-ID: <074e01d680a7$e33f5280$a9bdf780$@???.???>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="utf-8"

It's not being advertised as such, and nowhere in the specifications does it
say it does. I wonder if it will do 9600 baud packet ?

73 Jeff kb2m

-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb-bounces@?????.???> On Behalf Of Oscar Alonso via
AMSAT-BB
Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2020 3:34 PM
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] Does the new ICOM IC-705 have a "Satellite Mode"?


Folks,

Does the new ICOM IC-705 have a "Satellite Mode" like the ICOM IC-9100?

73's de Oscar (N6PAZ)



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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2020 14:39:56 -0700
From: KI7UNJ Tucker <ki7unj@?????.???>
To: gliderpilot@??????????.???
Cc: "amsat-bb@?????.???? <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Does the new ICOM IC-705 have a "Satellite
Mode"?
Message-ID:
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

As it's not full-duplex... I would doubt it.

And reading the manual, there is nothing referring to such

https://www.icomjapan.com/uploads/support/manual/IC-705_ENG_Advanced_0.pdf

On Tue, Sep 1, 2020 at 2:13 PM Oscar Alonso via AMSAT-BB
<amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>
>
> Folks,
>
> Does the new ICOM IC-705 have a "Satellite Mode" like the ICOM IC-9100?
>
> 73's de Oscar (N6PAZ)
> _______________________________________________
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> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2020 16:42:59 -0500
From: Zach Metzinger <zmetzing@?????.???>
To: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@????.???>
Cc: Amsat <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Vega rocket (VV16) launch expected 2nd
september : 3 Satellites with hamradio payload
Message-ID: <49eb58d5-ee13-de6a-3a8d-a59add188c5a@?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed

On 09/01/20 15:44, Paul Stoetzer wrote:
> As for the manufacturer of the satellite? While, I don't feel that's
> relevant. I transmit on the amateur bands all the time with radios
> built for me by Yaesu, Kenwood, Elecraft, and Alinco. A satellite is
> best thought of as simply a piece of amateur station equipment, though
> one that's a bit more expensive and specialized than a commercial
> transceiver, and travelling faster and higher.

Paul,

I think you've made my point for me, right there.

Back to building ...

--- Zach
N0ZGO


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Message: 13
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2020 23:03:07 +0100
From: "Peter Goodhall (2M0SQL)" <peter@????????.??.??>
To: gliderpilot@??????????.???
Cc: Amsat <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Does the new ICOM IC-705 have a "Satellite
Mode"?
Message-ID:
<CAFvUaipxSvoeTEZiyOzkd=soMw1S2cOh=1VfMNKNy_HSzVfvHg@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

As others pointed out and confirmed by ICOM no this isn't a duplex capable
radio thus no satellite mode.

Peter, 2M0SQL

On Tue, 1 Sep 2020, 22:12 Oscar Alonso via AMSAT-BB, <amsat-bb@?????.???>
wrote:

>
> Folks,
>
> Does the new ICOM IC-705 have a "Satellite Mode" like the ICOM IC-9100?
>
> 73's de Oscar (N6PAZ)
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
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> AMSAT-NA.
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