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Today's Topics:
1. Re: gprediict and PI (Robert Bankston)
2. Re: gprediict and PI (Roy Dean)
3. ISS Crossband Repeater - 9k6 APRS? (Mark Jessop)
4. Re: ISS Crossband Repeater - 9k6 APRS? (Jean Marc Momple)
5. ISS FM Repeater Report (Roy Dean)
6. Re: ISS FM Repeater Report (Virgilio Castillo R.)
7. SatPC32 vs. HRD (Gerald Payton)
8. Icom IC-9700 and Kantronics TNC (Tim N8DEU)
9. Re: SatPC32 vs. HRD (Bill Gaylord)
10. Re: SatPC32 vs. HRD (Stefan Wagener)
11. Re: Icom IC-9700 and Kantronics TNC (W3AB/GEO)
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2020 17:53:24 +0000 (UTC)
From: Robert Bankston <ke4al@?????.???>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>, James Brown <ki6wj@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] gprediict and PI
Message-ID: <672451643.2852610.1599155604761@????.?????.???>
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I like Luigi Cruz' PiSDR distro for RPi.? It comes with everything you need.
??
https://pisdr.luigi.ltd/
??
This would be a great place to start
Robert , KE4AL
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2020 14:06:12 -0400
From: Roy Dean <royldean@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] gprediict and PI
Message-ID:
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>
> Hi GuysI want to embark on converting my sat station over to PI 4b
> computer using gpredict,hamlib and a compatible rotor control unit that
> will work with Yaesu G5500.
> I am sure someone out there has done this but I am in need of an elmer!
> Someone will comment, why. I have my hF stations working fine with PI and I
> want to send Microsoft to the dungeon!
> Jim KI6WJ
While I don't do it now (I use Ubuntu on a normal pc), my first rotator
setup was on a Pi 3B+. There was no secret to it, other than at the time
there was a bug in the GS232 code for Hamlib that interfaced with my
G-5400B and Fox-Delta ST2. However a code savvy ham submitted an update
to Hamlib which is now implemented in their main branch that is specific to
the Fox-Delta ST2 controller (608 FoxDelta GS232/ST2).
If you follow the setup commands for both software packages, it should be
straight forward.
--Roy
K3RLD
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2020 13:58:53 +0930
From: Mark Jessop <vk5qi@??????.???>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS Crossband Repeater - 9k6 APRS?
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After noticing that a SatNOGS station (through a fluke of configuration)
had decoded a packet [1] on the new repeater downlink frequency, I
investigated a bit more and found that all the passes observed recently had
9k6 FSK packet traffic on the downlink.
An example packet:
[0.4] NA1SS>0P0PS4,APRSAT:'v&<0x1c>l <0x1c>SI]ARISS-ISS PM2=<0x0d>
------
U frame UI: p/f=0, No layer 3 protocol implemented., length = 48
dest 0P0PS4 0 c/r=0 res=3 last=0
source NA1SS 0 c/r=1 res=3 last=0
digi 1 APRSAT 0 h=0 res=3 last=1
000: 60 a0 60 a0 a6 68 60 9c 82 62 a6 a6 40 e0 82 a0 `.`..h`..b..@...
010: a4 a6 82 a8 61 03 f0 27 76 26 1c 6c 20 1c 53 49 ....a..'v&.l .SI
020: 5d 41 52 49 53 53 2d 49 53 53 20 50 4d 32 3d 0d ]ARISS-ISS PM2=.
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Is this being generated within the new Kenwood radio, or somewhere else?
What does the packet contain? (It looks like there might be some telemetry
in there?)
73
Mark VK5QI
[1] https://network.satnogs.org/observations/2780486/
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2020 12:05:59 +0400
From: Jean Marc Momple <jean.marc.momple@?????.???>
To: Mark Jessop <vk5qi@??????.???>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] ISS Crossband Repeater - 9k6 APRS?
Message-ID: <11C2CE5E-1C58-460F-85E5-3949D820227A@?????.???>
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Mark,
I also noticed the data stream on the waterfall but when tried to decode it
ISS was already too low elevation. Therefore will leave the modem
permanently on and forward whatever received to Satnogs and also feedback on
the BB.
73
Jean Marc (3B8DU)
> On Sep 4, 2020, at 8:28 AM, Mark Jessop via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
wrote:
>
> After noticing that a SatNOGS station (through a fluke of configuration)
> had decoded a packet [1] on the new repeater downlink frequency, I
> investigated a bit more and found that all the passes observed recently had
> 9k6 FSK packet traffic on the downlink.
>
> An example packet:
> [0.4] NA1SS>0P0PS4,APRSAT:'v&<0x1c>l <0x1c>SI]ARISS-ISS PM2=<0x0d>
> ------
> U frame UI: p/f=0, No layer 3 protocol implemented., length = 48
> dest 0P0PS4 0 c/r=0 res=3 last=0
> source NA1SS 0 c/r=1 res=3 last=0
> digi 1 APRSAT 0 h=0 res=3 last=1
> 000: 60 a0 60 a0 a6 68 60 9c 82 62 a6 a6 40 e0 82 a0 `.`..h`..b..@...
> 010: a4 a6 82 a8 61 03 f0 27 76 26 1c 6c 20 1c 53 49 ....a..'v&.l .SI
> 020: 5d 41 52 49 53 53 2d 49 53 53 20 50 4d 32 3d 0d ]ARISS-ISS PM2=.
> ------
> Is this being generated within the new Kenwood radio, or somewhere else?
> What does the packet contain? (It looks like there might be some telemetry
> in there?)
>
> 73
> Mark VK5QI
>
> [1] https://network.satnogs.org/observations/2780486/
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2020 05:17:56 -0400
From: Roy Dean <royldean@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS FM Repeater Report
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I worked the 9:00z pass this morning (12 degrees max, to my north -
typically my best passes). I had to get up early for work and I ended up
waking up 2 hours early and not being able to fall back a asleep, so what
the heck.
The only callsigns on were myself and KE8FZT. Andrew was choppy getting in
at half a watt, constantly cutting in and out. When he was getting in, he
was clear as day - full quieting. I couldn't get in at all until around
TCA, and at that point I was also loud and clear, but couldn't bring up the
repeater on every attempt (I'd say I got in every 2nd or 3rd attempt). As
soon as the ISS fell below about 6 degrees, I couldn't get in anymore. I
was transmitting at 20 watts the whole time. I tried tones from 67 to 88.5
Hz from about 6 degrees to 3 degrees, with no luck.
Is this radio connected to the same antenna system that the old packet
radio was hooked up to? It really seems to be behaving just like the packet
system (hit or miss getting in).
--Roy
K3RLD
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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2020 17:53:25 +0000
From: Virgilio Castillo R. <hp2vx@???????.???>
To: "amsat-bb@?????.???? <amsat-bb@?????.???>, Roy Dean
<royldean@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] ISS FM Repeater Report
Message-ID:
<BN6PR16MB329930106D7F2A8B4A1CF436EB2D0@?????????????.????????.????.???????.??
?>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Or harder squelched?
Virgilio - HP2VX ~ www.qsl.net/hp2vx/<http://www.qsl.net/hp2vx/>
________________________________
From: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb-bounces@?????.???> on behalf of Roy Dean via
AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Sent: Friday, September 4, 2020 4:17:56 AM
To: amsat-bb@?????.??? <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS FM Repeater Report
I worked the 9:00z pass this morning (12 degrees max, to my north -
typically my best passes). I had to get up early for work and I ended up
waking up 2 hours early and not being able to fall back a asleep, so what
the heck.
The only callsigns on were myself and KE8FZT. Andrew was choppy getting in
at half a watt, constantly cutting in and out. When he was getting in, he
was clear as day - full quieting. I couldn't get in at all until around
TCA, and at that point I was also loud and clear, but couldn't bring up the
repeater on every attempt (I'd say I got in every 2nd or 3rd attempt). As
soon as the ISS fell below about 6 degrees, I couldn't get in anymore. I
was transmitting at 20 watts the whole time. I tried tones from 67 to 88.5
Hz from about 6 degrees to 3 degrees, with no luck.
Is this radio connected to the same antenna system that the old packet
radio was hooked up to? It really seems to be behaving just like the packet
system (hit or miss getting in).
--Roy
K3RLD
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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2020 21:36:10 +0000
From: Gerald Payton <gp_ab5r@???????.???>
To: "amsat-bb@?????.???? <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] SatPC32 vs. HRD
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As I have previously stated, I am new and in the planning stages of my
satellite station.
I have SatPC32 installed and impressed with its abilities. Also, I am
receiving encouragement from a friend to try HRD (Ham Radio Deluxe) which I
also own.
I was wondering if and how many satellite operators are using HRD or have
tried it. I suspect that SatPC32 of used primarily by most everyone.
Many thanks for the help being received here and off the BB.
73,
Jerry AB5R
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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2020 21:50:33 +0000
From: Tim N8DEU <n8deu@???????.???>
To: amsat-bb <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Icom IC-9700 and Kantronics TNC
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?>
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Has anybody interfaced a Kantronics 9612 or the KM XL TNC to the accessory
port of the Icom IC-9700?
The reason I am asking is there are two IC-9700 users using the same
firmware who are experiencing the same issue with both of these TNC?s.
Packets are decoded with little to no issue on the receive side, but the
transmit side is a different story.
It seems only about 30% of the transmitted packets are decoded by other
stations using 1200 baud. The deviation of the transmit signal and the TX
delay are not the issue. The same TNC works with no issue on a Yaesu FT-736
and the FT-847.
Thank You,
Tim Cunningham - N8DEU
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Message: 9
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2020 17:12:15 -0500
From: Bill Gaylord <chibill110@?????.???>
To: Gerald Payton <gp_ab5r@???????.???>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] SatPC32 vs. HRD
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<CALS66Fu0cp7fzyYP634fo34+uqtsKYZYnVeV13QSL=WoR-jouA@????.?????.???>
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For all my attempts at Satellite ops (Even just listening), i use gPredict.
William Gaylord KD9KCK
On Fri, Sep 4, 2020, 4:38 PM Gerald Payton via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
wrote:
> As I have previously stated, I am new and in the planning stages of my
> satellite station.
>
> I have SatPC32 installed and impressed with its abilities. Also, I am
> receiving encouragement from a friend to try HRD (Ham Radio Deluxe) which I
> also own.
>
> I was wondering if and how many satellite operators are using HRD or have
> tried it. I suspect that SatPC32 of used primarily by most everyone.
>
> Many thanks for the help being received here and off the BB.
>
> 73,
> Jerry AB5R
> _______________________________________________
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> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
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>
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Message: 10
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2020 17:57:11 -0500
From: Stefan Wagener <wageners@?????.???>
To: Bill Gaylord <chibill110@?????.???>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] SatPC32 vs. HRD
Message-ID:
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There has been lots of discussion in the past about HRD and its usefulness
for satellite tracking and radio control. The consensus has been that HRD
is not well suited for these tasks, especially with newer radios like the
IC-9700. Yes, it can work but SatPc32 runs circles around it. The other big
plus is that if you get your SatPc32 license key from AMSAT, you are
actually supporting the organization. That is not the case with HRD or any
of the other Windows programs. Most fixed stations use SatPC32 for a
reason. It might not be the most elegant program but has a lot of nice
features, supports the newest radios, updates are always free, and a lot of
folks can help. It's the program that is supported by AMSAT!
Hope this helps,
Stefan, VE4SW
On Fri., Sep. 4, 2020, 5:14 p.m. Bill Gaylord via AMSAT-BB, <
amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
> For all my attempts at Satellite ops (Even just listening), i use gPredict.
>
> William Gaylord KD9KCK
>
> On Fri, Sep 4, 2020, 4:38 PM Gerald Payton via AMSAT-BB <
> amsat-bb@?????.???>
> wrote:
>
> > As I have previously stated, I am new and in the planning stages of my
> > satellite station.
> >
> > I have SatPC32 installed and impressed with its abilities. Also, I am
> > receiving encouragement from a friend to try HRD (Ham Radio Deluxe)
> which I
> > also own.
> >
> > I was wondering if and how many satellite operators are using HRD or have
> > tried it. I suspect that SatPC32 of used primarily by most everyone.
> >
> > Many thanks for the help being received here and off the BB.
> >
> > 73,
> > Jerry AB5R
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions
> > expressed
> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> > AMSAT-NA.
> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
> > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> >
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
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Message: 11
Date: Fri, 04 Sep 2020 16:52:05 -0700
From: W3AB/GEO <w3ab@?????.???>
Cc: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Icom IC-9700 and Kantronics TNC
Message-ID: <7f6178d0-a4c4-42ce-a5fd-a823324b19fc@?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Tim,
Have you tried simplex contacts?
?___
Sent from my two way wrist watch
73 de W3AB/GEO?
On Sep 4, 2020, 14:53, at 14:53, Tim N8DEU via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
wrote:
>Has anybody interfaced a Kantronics 9612 or the KM XL TNC to the
>accessory port of the Icom IC-9700?
>
>The reason I am asking is there are two IC-9700 users using the same
>firmware who are experiencing the same issue with both of these TNC?s.
>Packets are decoded with little to no issue on the receive side, but
>the transmit side is a different story.
>
>It seems only about 30% of the transmitted packets are decoded by other
>stations using 1200 baud. The deviation of the transmit signal and the
>TX delay are not the issue. The same TNC works with no issue on a Yaesu
>FT-736 and the FT-847.
>
>
>Thank You,
>Tim Cunningham - N8DEU
>
>_______________________________________________
>Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>Opinions expressed
>are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
>of AMSAT-NA.
>Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>program!
>Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
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