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Today's Topics:
1. AMSAT D-Star talkgroups (Keith E. Brandt, WD9GET)
2. Re: Icom IC-9700 and Kantronics TNC (W3AB/GEO)
3. Re: Icom IC-9700 and Kantronics TNC (Yono Adisoemarta)
4. New AMSAT net for Dallas/ Ft. Worth, Texas
(tjschuessler@???????.????
5. AMSAT BoD Election... Please Vote! (Jeff Johns)
6. Request for a couple Fox telemetry files? (to practice
decoding) (Curt Laumann)
7. Re: AMSAT BoD Election... Please Vote! (E.Mike McCardel)
8. Re: AMSAT BoD Election... Please Vote! (Ciemon Dunville)
9. Re: AMSAT BoD Election... Please Vote! (Joseph Armbruster)
10. Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2020-09-08 12:30 UTC
(aj9n@???.????
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2020 17:01:37 -0500
From: "Keith E. Brandt, WD9GET" <wd9get@?????.???>
To: AMSAT <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT D-Star talkgroups
Message-ID: <6f1ec9c8-8cab-835e-5e67-4afda4094bb2@?????.???>
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I'm having trouble with the AMSAT D-Star reflectors. I can hear traffic
with no difficulty, but I am not heard when I transmit. Other reflectors
work fine (30C, 1C, 4B, etc). I've tried the various alternative
reflectors that are hooked together (DCS, XLX, XRF systems using
reflectors 28C, SAT, and SIN). When I transmit, the Pi-Star shows me
getting into the hotspot and it shows the reflector connected. The
gateway pages for the reflectors sometimes show me connected, sometimes
they don't.
My hotspot is a RPi 3 running Pi-Star 4.1.2 with a DVMega board
(firmware 3.26) -- both the newest versions
I've tried accessing the hotspot with both my TH-D74A and Icom ID-51A
I use the Pi-Star interface to change reflectors
I can use the AMSAT reflectors from my Windows computer with an AMBE
stick and BlueDV
If anyone has any insights as to why my transmissions aren't getting to
the system I'd appreciate advice.
Keith WD9GET
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 06 Sep 2020 16:40:42 -0700
From: W3AB/GEO <w3ab@?????.???>
To: Tim N8DEU <n8deu@???????.???>
Cc: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Icom IC-9700 and Kantronics TNC
Message-ID: <d5097289-2348-435c-92a2-79fc46c3bc8f@?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
I don't know if the 9700 has TX EQ. The 7600 does.
Hmm, you just triggered something about TNC's I'll research.
?___
Sent from my two way wrist watch
73 de W3AB/GEO?
On Sep 6, 2020, 15:00, at 15:00, Tim N8DEU <n8deu@???????.???> wrote:
>What audio EQ?
>
>9612 or IC-9700?
>
>If you are talking about the Treble and Bass settings on the IC-9700,
>they had no significant impact in decoding the transmitted signal.
>
>
>Best Regards,
>Tim Cunningham - N8DEU
>
>
>
>
>
>From: W3AB/GEO<mailto:w3ab@?????.???>
>Sent: Sunday, September 6, 2020 4:23 PM
>To: Tim N8DEU<mailto:n8deu@???????.???>
>Cc: amsat-bb@?????.???<???????????????@?????.???>
>Subject: RE: Icom IC-9700 and Kantronics TNC
>
>Very good Tim. Thanks for diving in so deeply.
>BTW, have you tried the TX audio EQ?
>___
>Sent from my two way wrist watch
>73 de W3AB/GEO
>On Sep 6, 2020, at 13:48, Tim N8DEU
><n8deu@???????.???<????????????@???????.???>> wrote:
>
>
>I stopped guessing and started measuring. The data holds the answer
>after a deeper dive into this issue.
>
>
>The audio is not distorted.
>
>
>The problem with the ICOM IC-9700 and both Kantronics 9612 and KAM XL
>setups is a very old problem. I knew something seemed familiar about
>the decode problem, but it was 33 years ago. After measuring the
>IC-9700 signals on a service monitor and viewing the signal on an
>oscilloscope hooked to a Kenwood TH-D7a headphone jack, the picture was
>very clear. I discovered the old twisted audio problem where the higher
>2100 Hz tone is much lower in amplitude than the lower 1300 Hz tone.
>Why does this matter? The XR2211 demodulators had immense trouble
>decoding packets with this condition and so does the TH-D7a with a
>Tasco modem, but the Tasco modem decodes ~50% of something where the
>XR2211 does not decode anything.
>
>
>When (Amplow*cos(FreqLow)) is close to the same value as
>(Amphigh*cos(FreqHigh)) the performance is not good on an XR2211
>decoder nor a Tasco modem chip. Early in the days of 1200 baud TAPR
>packet modem designs it was discovered the higher tone needed to be 20
>dB higher. In other words, you at least need some pre-empahasis on the
>transmit signal for it to be decoded and obtain some noise reduction.
>There is no pre-emphasis on the transmit signal from the IC-9700
>Accessory Port based on the results I measured. The low tone is about
>1.47 times higher than the high tone relative to the deviation
>measured. When I measure the two tones levels with an oscilloscope tied
>to the TH-D7a headphone jack, I measure the low tone is 1.29 times
>higher than the high tone.
>
>
>Both of the audio tones output from the Kantronics 9612 are the same
>level at roughly 50mV. Thus, the 9700 clearly alters the signal levels
>on the two tones in a less than desirable fashion!
>
>
>I have not tried sending audio through the microphone connector yet,
>but I would hope it would at least have pre-emphasis for better results
>on boosting the high tone.
>
>
>Before I pass judgement, I will present the data to ICOM on the topic.
>Hopefully, the response I get will be better than what my friend
>received from them. They claimed to him the TNC keys the radio and it
>passes the audio as if they have no problem in the equation. In their
>defense, they did not understand the problem, but they did not pursue
>it either. Their response was correct from a simplistic view, but what
>their radio does or does not do with the audio can break everything.
>Pete, N4YOT, found if he sent 2 duplicate packets back to back with his
>KAM XL, the transmitted packet would be decoded. This raised the
>possibility the TXDelay might be the culprit initially from his
>results. However, that gets into the 50% packet decode rate.
>
>
>When I hooked up my Kantronics 9612 on my end to the IC-9700, I
>experienced the same problem as Pete and he worked on this for the past
>2 months getting nowhere and little help from ICOM. I finally hooked up
>the 9612 to the IC-9700 to take a look for myself. It quickly became
>obvious there is a lack of pre-emphasis on the high tone when the data
>is transmitted. In fact, the emphasis is on the low tone or the high
>tone is being attenuated!!! The end result is poor decoding of that
>transmitted signal when the low tone is higher in amplitude than the
>high tone. There is indeed a problem with the ICOM IC-9700 using the
>Accessory Port with 1200 baud packet.
>
>
>This requires a hardware modification on the 9612 to implement a filter
>to reverse these effects unless ICOM can provide some insight on how it
>can be accomplished with their radio where the problem exists.
>
>
>Let's see what ICOM has to say with the detailed measurements I
>collected.
>
>
>
>
>Best Regards,
>Tim Cunningham - N8DEU
>
>
>
>
>From: GEO Badger<mailto:w3ab@?????.???>
>Sent: Sunday, September 6, 2020 1:28 PM
>To: Tim N8DEU<mailto:n8deu@???????.???>
>Cc: amsat-bb@?????.???<???????????????@?????.???>
>Subject: RE: Icom IC-9700 and Kantronics TNC
>
>
>Tim,
>
>It seems a modulation issue of some type.
>
>I don't have a 9700 but I do have a 7600 and had a modulation
>distortion problem. When using the accessory port insure that "DATA OFF
>MOD" is set only to "ACC", not "MIC+ACC". All the others should be set
>to "USB".
>
>___
>Sent from my two way wrist watch
>73 de W3AB/GEO
>On Sep 5, 2020, at 22:00, Tim N8DEU
><n8deu@???????.???<????????????@???????.???>> wrote:
>
>I made several measurements with the deviation starting at 0.75 kHz up
>to 4.00 kHz in 0.25 kHz steps. At each step 10 packets were transmitted
>and multiple receivers were used for decoding. At no point did the
>success rate go above 50% decoding. At 3.25 kHz and 3.50 kHz the
>transmit decode rate was 50%. All other settings were less.
>
>
>
>The Kantronics 9616 cannot drive the IC-9700 any higher than 4.07 kHz
>deviation and that level is achieved at XMITLVL = 114. Increasing the
>XMITLVL does not produce any additional increase in FM deviation using
>the square wave tone from the CALIBRATE mode.
>
>
>
>I have worked with 1200 baud packet for 33 years and set up quite a
>number of systems and this one will require some more observation. The
>same Kantronics 9612 connected to a Yaesu FT-736 or and an FT-847 show
>a 100% packet decode rate at 1200 baud. Both of these radio?s work fine
>at 9600 baud which is something not mentioned anywhere for the IC-9700.
>
>
>
>I was checking to see if others are having issues with the IC-9700.
>This started with a friend asking questions for the past 2 months about
>having trouble with the IC-9700 connected to a KAM XL and I walked him
>through all the logical steps. Finally, I decided I better try hooking
>my 9612 up to the Accessory Port to see how it works. This should not
>be too complicated. My results were exactly the same poor results he
>encountered on transmitting 1200 baud packets.
>
>
>
>Increasing TX Delay does nothing to help as that does not seem to be
>the issue.
>
>
>
>1200 baud packets are decoded through the receiver perfectly fine.
>
>
>
>The problem is transmitting 1200 baud packets for a successful decode
>rate on the IC-9700 through the Accessory Port.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>Best Regards,
>
>Tim Cunningham ? N8DEU
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>From: GEO Badger<mailto:w3ab@?????.???>
>Sent: Saturday, September 5, 2020 3:00 PM
>To: Tim N8DEU<mailto:n8deu@???????.???>
>Cc: amsat-bb@?????.???<???????????????@?????.???>
>Subject: Re: Icom IC-9700 and Kantronics TNC
>
>
>
>Can you look at the deviation?
>
>
>
>---
>Ciao baby, catch you on the flip side
>
>
>73 de W3AB/GEO
>
>http://www.w3ab.org
>
>You can say "over", you can say "out", you just can't say "over and
>out".
>
>
>
>
>
>On Friday, September 4, 2020, 08:59:04 PM PDT, Tim N8DEU
><n8deu@???????.???> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>Simplex is the only method I tried at this point to keep it simple.
>
>
>
>Two different IC-9700 Radio radios, one with a Kantronics 9612 and one
>with a Kantronics KAM XL. Both using simplex and both exhibiting the
>same results.
>
>
>
>
>
>- Tim
>
>From: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb-bounces@?????.???> on behalf of W3AB/GEO via
>AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
>Sent: Friday, September 4, 2020 6:52:05 PM
>Cc: amsat-bb@?????.??? <amsat-bb@?????.???>
>Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Icom IC-9700 and Kantronics TNC
>
>
>
>Tim,
>
>Have you tried simplex contacts?
>
>?___
>Sent from my two way wrist watch
>73 de W3AB/GEO?
>
>On Sep 4, 2020, 14:53, at 14:53, Tim N8DEU via AMSAT-BB
><amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>>Has anybody interfaced a Kantronics 9612 or the KM XL TNC to the
>>accessory port of the Icom IC-9700?
>>
>>The reason I am asking is there are two IC-9700 users using the same
>>firmware who are experiencing the same issue with both of these TNC?s.
>>Packets are decoded with little to no issue on the receive side, but
>>the transmit side is a different story.
>>
>>It seems only about 30% of the transmitted packets are decoded by
>other
>>stations using 1200 baud. The deviation of the transmit signal and the
>>TX delay are not the issue. The same TNC works with no issue on a
>Yaesu
>>FT-736 and the FT-847.
>>
>>
>>Thank You,
>>Tim Cunningham - N8DEU
>>
>>_______________________________________________
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>>to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>>Opinions expressed
>>are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
>>of AMSAT-NA.
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>>program!
>>Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>_______________________________________________
>Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>Opinions expressed
>are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
>of AMSAT-NA.
>Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>program!
>Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2020 07:06:52 +0700
From: Yono Adisoemarta <yono_adisoemarta@?????.???>
To: AMSAT BB <AMSAT-BB@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Icom IC-9700 and Kantronics TNC
Message-ID: <F7B62DE1-C7C5-4A1E-BA14-D467CEE54C57@?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
What is the setup to decode ?
I?ll try to replicate the problem as I have a 9612 somewhere in the storage.
73 de Yono - YD0NXX
Sent from my iPhone
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2020 10:42:39 -0500
From: <tjschuessler@???????.???>
To: "'AMSAT BB'" <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] New AMSAT net for Dallas/ Ft. Worth, Texas
Message-ID: <022401d6852d$84b4eb00$8e1ec100$@???????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
The DFW Metroplex has had a local AMSAT net for at least 35 years on the
Arlington ARC repeater each Wednesday evening. It continues to be a great
home for the net. I am a regular net control and have taken over the
organization of the net following the passing of our late friend, Keith
Pugh, W5IU.
The metro area has grown so much to the North and East however, that most
likely, folks up in that area have no way to get into the Arlington machine
which is in the southwest quadrant, which in some cases is over 60 miles
away. I tried to engage a linked repeater group in the area but they were
not willing to host a "Non-Affiliated net" on their system. The Arlington
machine has no Internet connectivity for modes like Wires-X or other of the
digital voice modes.
Thus I proposed to the Dallas Amateur Radio Club, of which I am a member, to
let me host an AMSAT net-EAST. Dates will be every Tuesday at 8PM CT except
the first Tuesday of the month. DARC does have an Echolink node on W5FC-R
so it will allow for folks who can't hit it by RF, a chance still to get in
with a local group of satellite enthusiasts. Oh yes, we will continue to
host the West net on the Arlington machine as will. Yup, this is the same
time as the Houston AMSAT net, which has an Echolink presence at the same
time, but no intentional competition is intended. That is the slot DARC
could give me. Our first DFW AMSAT East net is tomorrow, September 8th.
I am posting this here, because I am hoping to do something unique with this
net. I want to have a 20 minute "Expert" section where satellite chasers,
designers, rovers, data downloaders, antenna builders and more, can share
their passion for certain aspects of the hobby. Having an Echolink
connection to the repeater means it will be easy to draw from the larger
AMSAT community, both here and abroad. If you would be interested in being
a part of this one week, please do drop me a note off list and we can
discuss and set up a week for you to present.
Hope yo can be a part of this new outreach venture.
Tom Schuessler, N5HYP
EM12ms
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2020 19:58:39 -0500
From: Jeff Johns <jeff30339@?????.???>
To: AMSAT <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT BoD Election... Please Vote!
Message-ID: <8F9297A0-1411-4084-B6C3-47F7DF3B311B@?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
?Candidates whom are running for a position on the AMSAT BoDs are allowed to
use AMSAT?s publications/media in order to campaign per AMSAT bylaws. As
such, this email is an allowed campaign email.
If you are eligible to vote in this year?s election and have not yet done
so, please consider casting your vote for me, Howie AB2S and Bob N4HY. This
election cycle has been quite heated, as it should be. Myself and those I
endorse want to change how AMSAT is operated. We want to see the
organization follow its bylaws and the Code of Washington D.C. and to remove
the dark cloud which is currently hanging over the organization. This dark
cloud has been brought about by the organization being treated as a
clubhouse and not a non-profit business. During this election cycle, AMSAT
members have learned that their elected officials have squandered membership
monies in a complete violation of bylaws and Washington DC corporate code.
This HAS to stop. AMSAT members have learned that the BoDs refuse (the
majority of them including those running for re-election) to have regular
meetings. How can any organization survive in this manner?
A few days ago, one of the BoDs and the VP of Engineering stated on QRZ.com
that he couldn?t be bothered with the failure of AO-92 and that if anyone
wanted to know what happened to it, they could look at the data but he was
too busy to do so. Folks, that is the attitude of the majority of the BoDs,
they simply don?t seem to care. What kind of leadership is that? Those
incumbents running against me are promising you an HEO satellite but they
can?t even tell us why AO-95 never worked, AO-92 is basically dead and
HO-107 only lasted a few days. Members deserve leadership and answers, not
false promises.
This will be my last campaign email of the season. I?m just asking people to
take a objective and not subjective look at AMSAT as it stands today. If
emotions are removed, it?s easy to see that AMSAT is failing financially,
ethically and failing in being a world-class leader of keeping amateur radio
in space. If you are a member and haven?t voted, please do so tomorrow so
that your ballot will reach the Secretary in time to be counted.
AMSAT is worth saving but if changes don?t happen soon. There won?t be
anything left to save. AMSAT needs real leadership not just uninterested OM
that enjoy having a title. Let?s keep the organization going for decades to
come. This can happen with a vote for me, Howie and Bob.
Thanks for your time and I look forward to hearing you on the air. 73!
Jeff WE4B
http://we4bravo.com
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2020 18:49:31 -0700
From: Curt Laumann <curt.laumann@?????.???>
To: AMSAT-BB@?????.???
Cc: Anthony Schlecht <aschlecht1@?????.???????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Request for a couple Fox telemetry files? (to
practice decoding)
Message-ID:
<CAD7_4hy+=DO2aCN1Wpyy4pSH=bmVTMbPU3zwi-k8NQmsvrBNyA@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
Hello,
I downloaded and installed the Fox 1 Telemetry tool. A group of us are
going to discuss using this tool during our weekly net tonight, and It
thought it would be helpful to have a couple of audio files to practice
decoding.
If you have one or two telemetry audio files that you could send to
k7zoo@????.??? it would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Curt / K7ZOO
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2020 02:57:34 -0400
From: "E.Mike McCardel" <mccardelm@?????.???>
To: Jeff Johns <jeff30339@?????.???>
Cc: AMSAT <AMSAT-BB@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AMSAT BoD Election... Please Vote!
Message-ID: <AE352A8C-34A1-4B07-A7C7-CF2C00598509@?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Jeff stated ? A few days ago, one of the BoDs and the VP of Engineering
stated on that he couldn?t be bothered with the failure of AO-92 and that if
anyone wanted to know what happened to it, they could look at the data but
he was too busy to do so. ?
This is incredibly misleading and distorted. The VP of engineering said no
such thing. In fact if you take the time to actually read his statement he
offered to share information if someone wanted to dig deeper. He did say
that current engineering priorities were ?focused on Golf?. This is a far
cry from saying he couldn?t be bothered with the failure of AO-92.
You can look it up and read it for Yourself.
People, please, do your fact checking and don?t be mislead by distortions of
the truth.
EMike McCardel, AA8EM
Past Senior Editor AMSAT News Service
Past AMSAT-NA VP Educational Relations
Former ARRL, Ohio Section, Affiliated Club Coordinator
> On Sep 7, 2020, at 9:01 PM, Jeff Johns via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
wrote:
>
> A few days ago, one of the BoDs and the VP of Engineering stated on
QRZ.com that he couldn?t be bothered with the failure of AO-92 and that if
anyone wanted to know what happened to it, they could look at the data but
he was too busy to do so.
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2020 10:10:07 +0100
From: Ciemon Dunville <ciemon@?????.???>
To: AMSAT <AMSAT-BB@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AMSAT BoD Election... Please Vote!
Message-ID:
<CAJVD89khNh5ejH=bS+ryqo0s6DZ=821=-+Jyd+FrvL0R_RaiDQ@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
Interpretation of the statement aside what I find interesting is that this
sort of news and subsequent discussion is not happening on this list.
Surely the whole point of having a central point of focus is that all
information should be here. Do I need to subscribe to QRZ.com now to find
out what's going on in the world of AMSAT?
Why aren't the various BoD people giving regular updates here for us all to
see?
73
Ciemon - G0TRT
On Tue, 8 Sep 2020 at 08:01, E.Mike McCardel via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
> Jeff stated ? A few days ago, one of the BoDs and the VP of Engineering
> stated on that he couldn?t be bothered with the failure of AO-92 and that
> if anyone wanted to know what happened to it, they could look at the data
> but he was too busy to do so. ?
>
> This is incredibly misleading and distorted. The VP of engineering said no
> such thing. In fact if you take the time to actually read his statement he
> offered to share information if someone wanted to dig deeper. He did say
> that current engineering priorities were ?focused on Golf?. This is a far
> cry from saying he couldn?t be bothered with the failure of AO-92.
> You can look it up and read it for Yourself.
>
> People, please, do your fact checking and don?t be mislead by distortions
> of the truth.
>
>
>
> EMike McCardel, AA8EM
> Past Senior Editor AMSAT News Service
> Past AMSAT-NA VP Educational Relations
> Former ARRL, Ohio Section, Affiliated Club Coordinator
>
>
> > On Sep 7, 2020, at 9:01 PM, Jeff Johns via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
> wrote:
> >
> > A few days ago, one of the BoDs and the VP of Engineering stated on
> QRZ.com that he couldn?t be bothered with the failure of AO-92 and that if
> anyone wanted to know what happened to it, they could look at the data but
> he was too busy to do so.
> _______________________________________________
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> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
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>
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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2020 07:01:15 -0400
From: Joseph Armbruster <josepharmbruster@?????.???>
To: Ciemon Dunville <ciemon@?????.???>
Cc: AMSAT <AMSAT-BB@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AMSAT BoD Election... Please Vote!
Message-ID:
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I would like to see regular updates again, in an environment that is free
of legal intimidation and rich of engineering activity, like it use to
be... That's why I voted for: Hammond, Paige, Stoetzer.
AMSAT should be voting for people who speak well about AMSAT, work for
AMSAT and want it to continue to evolve and grow. I have seen some board
members speak up now and then, but it seems limited now and focused on
answering specific engineering questions.
I'm not on the board of AMSAT, or involved with the board in any way, but
from all observations i've been able to make from the -bb traffic, it seems
like many on the BOD are being forced to walk on eggshells with their words
and are being stifled due to legal threats. Reference the -bb email
"[Reply to W5PFG's letter of 10 July 2020", and all it's majesty. With an
email like this being sent publically to the -bb, who knows what else has
gone on behind the scenes or in board meetings. Not sure if the email was
sent just-for-show or not (you know how some people can be these days...),
but that's the work of Patrick and Michelle (ref the email), whom appear to
be part of the root cause of the deafening silence we are experiencing from
the board. If you want to do AMSAT a service, sift through the -bb and
vote-away the friends-and-family of ORI. Otherwise, it feels like it will
be the last year, ad-infinitum, minus any engineering activity.
Joseph Armbruster
KJ4JIO
On Tue, Sep 8, 2020 at 5:14 AM Ciemon Dunville via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
> Interpretation of the statement aside what I find interesting is that this
> sort of news and subsequent discussion is not happening on this list.
> Surely the whole point of having a central point of focus is that all
> information should be here. Do I need to subscribe to QRZ.com now to find
> out what's going on in the world of AMSAT?
>
> Why aren't the various BoD people giving regular updates here for us all to
> see?
>
> 73
> Ciemon - G0TRT
>
>
>
> On Tue, 8 Sep 2020 at 08:01, E.Mike McCardel via AMSAT-BB <
> amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>
> > Jeff stated ? A few days ago, one of the BoDs and the VP of Engineering
> > stated on that he couldn?t be bothered with the failure of AO-92 and that
> > if anyone wanted to know what happened to it, they could look at the data
> > but he was too busy to do so. ?
> >
> > This is incredibly misleading and distorted. The VP of engineering said
> no
> > such thing. In fact if you take the time to actually read his statement
> he
> > offered to share information if someone wanted to dig deeper. He did say
> > that current engineering priorities were ?focused on Golf?. This is a far
> > cry from saying he couldn?t be bothered with the failure of AO-92.
> > You can look it up and read it for Yourself.
> >
> > People, please, do your fact checking and don?t be mislead by distortions
> > of the truth.
> >
> >
> >
> > EMike McCardel, AA8EM
> > Past Senior Editor AMSAT News Service
> > Past AMSAT-NA VP Educational Relations
> > Former ARRL, Ohio Section, Affiliated Club Coordinator
> >
> >
> > > On Sep 7, 2020, at 9:01 PM, Jeff Johns via AMSAT-BB <
> amsat-bb@?????.???>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > A few days ago, one of the BoDs and the VP of Engineering stated on
> > QRZ.com that he couldn?t be bothered with the failure of AO-92 and that
> if
> > anyone wanted to know what happened to it, they could look at the data
> but
> > he was too busy to do so.
> > _______________________________________________
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> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions
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> >
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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2020 12:23:18 +0000 (UTC)
From: <aj9n@???.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2020-09-08
12:30 UTC
Message-ID: <2036145858.3380885.1599567798261@????.?????.???>
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Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2020-09-08 12:30 UTC
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Quick list of scheduled contacts and events:
?
College Raymond Sirot, Gueux, France, telebridge via VK5ZAI
The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS
The scheduled astronaut is Chris Cassidy KF5KDR
Contact is go for: Thu 2020-09-10 08:17:01 UTC 57 deg
?
Avellaneda Ikastetxea, Sodupe, Spain, telebridge via ZS6JON (***)
The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS (***)
The scheduled astronaut is Chris Cassidy KF5KDR
Contact is go for: Fri 2020-09-18 12:56:34 UTC 65 deg (***)
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There is a new radio on board the ISS.? The Kenwood D710GA is now in use.?
The crossband repeater is now available when the radio is not being used for
ARISS school contacts.?
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The frequencies are 145.99 MHz up (67 tone) and 437.800 MHz down.? Watch the
Doppler on the downlink.?
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A multi-point telebridge contact means that each student will be on the
telebridge from their own home.
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ARISS is very aware of the impact that COVID-19 is having on schools and the
public in general.? As such, we may have last minute cancellations or
postponements of school contacts.? As always, I will try to provide everyone
with near-real-time updates.?
?
The following schools have now been postponed or cancelled due to COVID-19:?
?
Postponed:
No new schools
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Cancelled:
No new schools
?
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?
The ARISS webpage is at https://www.ariss.org/ ???
?
Watch for future COVID-19 related announcements here also.
?
?
Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site.
?
The main page for Applying to Host a Scheduled Contact may be found at
https://www.ariss.org/apply-to-host-an-ariss-contact.html ???
ARISS Contact Applications (United States)
?
?
Note, all times are approximate. ?It is recommended that you do your own
orbital prediction?or start listening about 10 minutes before the listed
time.
All dates and times listed follow International Standard ISO 8601 date and
time format YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS
?
The complete schedule page has been updated as of?2020-09-08 12:30 UTC. (***)
Here you will find a listing of all scheduled?school contacts, and
questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and Echolink websites, and
instructions for any contact that may be streamed live.
?
https://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf
https://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.txt
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?
The successful school list has been updated as of 2020-09-02 20:00 UTC.
https://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf
?
?
?
The ARISS webpage is at https://www.ariss.org/ ???
Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site.
?
The main page for Applying to Host a Scheduled Contact may be found at
https://www.ariss.org/apply-to-host-an-ariss-contact.html ???
?
ARISS Contact Applications (United States)
?
The ARISS webpage is at https://www.ariss.org/ ???
Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site.
?
?
Message to US Educators
?
ARISS Contact Applications (United States)
?
The Proposal Window of February 1, 2020 to March 31, 2020 has now closed.
?
For future proposal information and more details such as expectations,
proposal guidelines and proposal form, and dates and times of Information
Webinars, go to www.ariss.org.
?
Please direct any questions to?ariss.us.education@?????.???.
?
About ARISS:
?
Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS) is a cooperative
venture of international amateur radio societies and the space agencies that
support the International Space Station (ISS).? In the United States,
sponsors are the Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT), the American
Radio Relay League (ARRL), the ISS National Lab and National Aeronautics and
Space Administration (NASA). The primary goal of ARISS is to promote
exploration of science, technology, engineering, and mathematics (STEAM)
topics by organizing scheduled contacts via amateur radio between crew
members aboard the ISS and students in classrooms or public forms. Before
and during these radio contacts, students, educators, parents, and
communities learn about space, space technologies, and amateur radio. For
more information, see www.ariss.org.
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ARISS Contact Applications (Europe, Africa and the Middle East)
?
Schools and Youth organizations in Europe, Africa and the Middle East
interested in setting up an ARISS radio contact with an astronaut on board
the International Space Station are invited to submit an application from
September to October and from February to April.
Please refer to details and the application form at
www.ariss-eu.org/school-contacts.? Applications should be addressed by email
to:? school.selection.manager@????????.???
?
ARISS Contact Applications (Canada, Central and South America, Asia and
Australia and Russia)
?
Organizations outside the United States can apply for an ARISS contact by
filling out an application.? Please direct questions to the appropriate
regional representative listed below. If your country is not specifically
listed, send your questions to the nearest ARISS Region listed. If you are
unsure which address to use, please send your question to the ARISS-Canada
representative; they will forward your question to the appropriate
coordinator.
?
For the application, go to:? https://www.ariss.org/ariss-application.html.
ARISS-Canada and the Americas, except USA: Steve McFarlane, VE3TBD email to:
ve3tbd@?????.???
ARISS-Japan, Asia, Pacific and Australia: Satoshi Yasuda, 7M3TJZ email to:
ariss@???????.???? Japan Amateur Radio League (JARL) https://www.jarl.org/
ARISS-Russia: Soyuz Radioljubitelei Rossii (SRR) https://srr.ru/
?
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ARISS is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts.?
ARISS thanks everyone in advance for their assistance.? Feel free to send
your reports to aj9n@?????.??? or aj9n@???.???.
?
Listen for the ISS on the downlink of 145.8? MHz.
?
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*
?
All ARISS contacts are made via the Kenwood radio unless otherwise noted.
?
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*
Several of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and
not being able to get in. ?That has now been changed to https://www.ariss.org/
?
Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site.
?
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Looking for something new to do?? How about receiving DATV from the ISS??
Please note that the HamTV system has been brought back to earth for
troubleshooting.? Please monitor ARISS-EU or ARISS-ON for the very latest
news on the troubleshooting efforts.?
?
If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for complete details.?
Look for the buttons indicating Ham Video.????????????
?
http://www.ariss-eu.org/
?
If you need some assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to
provide some insight.? Contact Kerry at kbanke@?????????.???
?
?
The HamTV webpage:? https://www.amsat-on.be/hamtv-summary/
?
?
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ARISS congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100
schools:
?
Francesco IK?WGF with 140
Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 138
Sergey RV3DR with 135
Gaston ON4WF with 123
?
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The webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy. Out of date
webpages were removed, and new ones have been added.? If there are additional
ARISS websites I need to know about, please let me know.
?
?
?
Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1397.
Each school counts as 1 event.??????????????????????????????????
Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 1330.
Each contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot.
Total number of ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is 48.
?
A complete year by year breakdown of the contacts may be found in the
file.
https://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf
?
Please feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are needed.
?
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The following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact:
South Dakota, Wyoming, American?Samoa, Guam, Northern Marianas Islands, and
the Virgin Islands.
?
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?
QSL information may be found at:
https://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html
?
ISS callsigns: DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS, RS?ISS
?
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Frequency chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing
Doppler correction as of 2005-07-29 04:00 UTC
https://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction.
rtf
Check out the Zoho reports of the ARISS contacts
?
https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415
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?
Exp. 62 now on orbit
Chris Cassidy KF5KDR
Anatoli Ivanishin
Ivan Vagner
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73,
Charlie?Sufana AJ9N
One of the ARISS operation team mentors
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