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Today's Topics:
1. Re: 1.2G on LEO Pack (Jeff Davis)
2. New version of LOTW (Wes Baden)
3. Oops, It's "Phone" They Removed (Wes Baden)
4. Re: Oops, It's "Phone" They Removed (Peter Budnik)
5. Re: ISS Crossband Repeater (Armand SP3QFE)
6. Re: Oops, It's "Phone" They Removed (Mike Diehl)
7. Re: New version of LOTW (on4cjq@???????.???
8. Re: New version of LOTW (Bob Liddy (K8BL))
9. Re: New version of LOTW (W3AB/GEO)
10. Re: New version of LOTW (Don KB2YSI)
11. Re: New version of LOTW (Don KB2YSI)
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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2020 21:26:23 -0400
From: Jeff Davis <ke9v@???.???>
To: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] 1.2G on LEO Pack
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Thanks all for the pointers, got what I needed.
73 Jeff KE9V
> On Sep 12, 2020, at 3:25 PM, Jeff Davis via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
wrote:
>
> Looking for links to photos of 1.2G antenna installed on the same boom as
a LEO Pack.
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2020 06:38:37 -0400
From: Wes Baden <badencapecod@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] New version of LOTW
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Anyone else not pleased with the new version "improving" LOTW, at least as
it involves SAT contacts? Can we get ARRL to undo some things? At least
on my computer, you no longer can press the Enter key to go down entry
fields one after another. It's a much slower process now. Also, the two
most common modes that we've been using on LOTW, CW and VOICE, are no
longer first in line, where an expanded list of modes is alphabetized.
This also slows down entries. Worse yet, VOICE is no longer a listed mode
at all. It's been replaced by SSB, LSB and USB. I could be wrong, but
isn't this in particular going to make QSO matching more difficult? Should
SAT ops simply enter SSB, or should it be USB (the output of satellites) or
LSB (our input to them)? In sum, the whole process is now slower with
multiple opportunities for matching errors and contacts not being
confirmed. Ugh.
Wes NA1ME
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2020 06:54:44 -0400
From: Wes Baden <badencapecod@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] Oops, It's "Phone" They Removed
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Way too early in the morning and without coffee when I sent that post about
changes in LOTW. It's PHONE they removed, which used to appear immediately
after CW in the first two Mode field options. For linear SAT users, the
previous PHONE choice is now replaced by LSB, SSB and USB. Pick one now
and hope the operator you've contacted picks the same one, for a match. Or
should the new standard, for us, simply be SSB?
Wes NA1ME
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2020 07:02:33 -0400
From: Peter Budnik <kb1hy2@???????.???>
To: Wes Baden <badencapecod@?????.???>
Cc: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Oops, It's "Phone" They Removed
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SSB is always my choice
Sent from my iPhone
> On Sep 13, 2020, at 6:56 AM, Wes Baden via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
wrote:
>
> ?Way too early in the morning and without coffee when I sent that post about
> changes in LOTW. It's PHONE they removed, which used to appear immediately
> after CW in the first two Mode field options. For linear SAT users, the
> previous PHONE choice is now replaced by LSB, SSB and USB. Pick one now
> and hope the operator you've contacted picks the same one, for a match. Or
> should the new standard, for us, simply be SSB?
>
> Wes NA1ME
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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2020 14:12:00 +0200
From: Armand SP3QFE <kontakt@??????.???>
To: Dave Taylor <ariss.w8aas@?????.???>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] ISS Crossband Repeater
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Tnank you David and Dave,
W dniu 2020-09-09 16:38, Dave Taylor napisa?(a):
> It is FM, Armand.
>
> Dave, W8AAS
>
>> On Sep 9, 2020, at 9:56 AM, Armand SP3QFE via AMSAT-BB
>> <amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>>
>> Hello Everyone,
>>
>> Is it FM or NarrowFM?
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> 73, Armand SP3QFE
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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2020 09:35:21 -0400
From: Mike Diehl <diehl.mike.a@?????.???>
To: Wes Baden <badencapecod@?????.???>
Cc: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Oops, It's "Phone" They Removed
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It doesn?t matter as long as they are of the same mode group you?ll get a
match. There are only 4 mode groups, CW, Data, Image and Phone. You could
put AM on AO-91 and you?ll get a match.
73,
Mike Diehl
W8LID/VE6LID
> On Sep 13, 2020, at 06:57, Wes Baden via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
wrote:
>
> ?Way too early in the morning and without coffee when I sent that post about
> changes in LOTW. It's PHONE they removed, which used to appear immediately
> after CW in the first two Mode field options. For linear SAT users, the
> previous PHONE choice is now replaced by LSB, SSB and USB. Pick one now
> and hope the operator you've contacted picks the same one, for a match. Or
> should the new standard, for us, simply be SSB?
>
> Wes NA1ME
> _______________________________________________
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expressed
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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2020 20:25:56 +0200 (CEST)
From: on4cjq@???????.??
To: Wes Baden <badencapecod@?????.???>
Cc: amsat-bb <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] New version of LOTW
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Hello Wes,
a properly logged sat qso is with correct uplink mode+dwnlink mode, the
correct uplink+dwnlink freq(band), propagation mode SAT, time,etc.
when uploading my qso's, every time some qsl's are rejected because people
log them wrong. Without the right propagationmode SAT most of them looks
like a tropo qso, and that's not the the same. You need to use good logging
software.
I've never seen VOICE as a mode of operation btw...
Best 73's
Jerry
----- Oorspronkelijk bericht -----
Van: "amsat-bb" <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Aan: "amsat-bb" <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Verzonden: Zondag 13 september 2020 12:38:37
Onderwerp: [amsat-bb] New version of LOTW
Anyone else not pleased with the new version "improving" LOTW, at least as
it involves SAT contacts? Can we get ARRL to undo some things? At least
on my computer, you no longer can press the Enter key to go down entry
fields one after another. It's a much slower process now. Also, the two
most common modes that we've been using on LOTW, CW and VOICE, are no
longer first in line, where an expanded list of modes is alphabetized.
This also slows down entries. Worse yet, VOICE is no longer a listed mode
at all. It's been replaced by SSB, LSB and USB. I could be wrong, but
isn't this in particular going to make QSO matching more difficult? Should
SAT ops simply enter SSB, or should it be USB (the output of satellites) or
LSB (our input to them)? In sum, the whole process is now slower with
multiple opportunities for matching errors and contacts not being
confirmed. Ugh.
Wes NA1ME
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Message: 8
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2020 19:32:51 +0000 (UTC)
From: "Bob Liddy (K8BL)" <k8bl@?????????.???>
To: Wes Baden <badencapecod@?????.???>, "on4cjq@???????.???
<on4cjq@???????.??>
Cc: amsat-bb <amsat-bb@?????.???>, The LoTW Team <lotw-admin@????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] New version of LOTW
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Jerry (No Call), Wes-NA1ME, et al:
Well, it appears the ARRL adds to the LoTW confusion themselves.
For Awards, on DXCC there are categories for modes CW, PHONE & DIGITAL.
For WAS there are categories for modes CW, PHONE, DIGITAL, FT4, FT8, PSK31
and RTTY.
For VUCC, there are no mode categories since it only concerns Grids.
For QSO listings, there are a ton of modes available. But, when it comes to
Voice type
modes there are many varieties - PHONE, FM, AM, SSB, etc. However there NO
entries for USB or LSB, just SSB.
In the newest version of TQSL, there are mode choices for SSB-type QSOs of
USB, LSB
and merely SSB in addition to many other types of modes in the longest list
ever known
to mankind.
So, is there any wonder that LoTW users are confused????? Sometimes it's
PHONE and
sometimes it's SSB and sometimes it's a version of SSB (LSB/USB). GEEEEESH!!!!
TNX/73,? ? ? Bob? K8BL
On Sunday, September 13, 2020, 02:26:18 PM EDT, Jerry via AMSAT-BB
<amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
Hello Wes,
a properly logged sat qso is with correct uplink mode+dwnlink mode, the
correct uplink+dwnlink freq(band), propagation mode SAT, time,etc.
when uploading my qso's, every time some qsl's are rejected because people
log them wrong. Without the right propagationmode SAT most of them looks
like a tropo qso, and that's not the the same. You need to use good logging
software.
I've never seen VOICE as a mode of operation btw...?
Best 73's
Jerry
----- Oorspronkelijk bericht -----
Van: "amsat-bb" <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Aan: "amsat-bb" <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Verzonden: Zondag 13 september 2020 12:38:37
Onderwerp: [amsat-bb] New version of LOTW
Anyone else not pleased with the new version "improving" LOTW, at least as
it involves SAT contacts?? Can we get ARRL to undo some things?? At least
on my computer, you no longer can press the Enter key to go down entry
fields one after another.? It's a much slower process now.? Also, the two
most common modes that we've been using on LOTW, CW and VOICE, are no
longer first in line, where an expanded list of modes is alphabetized.
This also slows down entries.? Worse yet, VOICE is no longer a listed mode
at all.? It's been replaced by SSB, LSB and USB.? I could be wrong, but
isn't this in particular going to make QSO matching more difficult?? Should
SAT ops simply enter SSB, or should it be USB (the output of satellites) or
LSB (our input to them)?? In sum, the whole process is now slower with
multiple opportunities for matching errors and contacts not being
confirmed.? Ugh.
Wes NA1ME
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Message: 9
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2020 16:19:56 -0700
From: W3AB/GEO <w3ab@?????.???>
To: "R.T.Liddy" <k8bl@?????????.???>
Cc: amsat-bb <amsat-bb@?????.???>, Wes Baden <badencapecod@?????.???>,
The LoTW Team <lotw-admin@????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] New version of LOTW
Message-ID: <e84d236d-80ee-461d-8d88-76a3a5be0cee@?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
I'll betcha there was a bunch of coders who didn't get good directions from
HQ, didn't talk to each other & prolly aren't hams.
?___
Sent from my two way wrist watch
73 de W3AB/GEO?
On Sep 13, 2020, 12:36, at 12:36, "Bob Liddy (K8BL) via AMSAT-BB"
<amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>Jerry (No Call), Wes-NA1ME, et al:
>
>Well, it appears the ARRL adds to the LoTW confusion themselves.
>
>For Awards, on DXCC there are categories for modes CW, PHONE & DIGITAL.
>
>For WAS there are categories for modes CW, PHONE, DIGITAL, FT4, FT8,
>PSK31
>and RTTY.
>
>For VUCC, there are no mode categories since it only concerns Grids.
>
>For QSO listings, there are a ton of modes available. But, when it
>comes to Voice type
>modes there are many varieties - PHONE, FM, AM, SSB, etc. However there
>NO
>entries for USB or LSB, just SSB.
>
>In the newest version of TQSL, there are mode choices for SSB-type QSOs
>of USB, LSB
>and merely SSB in addition to many other types of modes in the longest
>list ever known
>to mankind.
>
>So, is there any wonder that LoTW users are confused????? Sometimes
>it's PHONE and
>sometimes it's SSB and sometimes it's a version of SSB (LSB/USB).
>GEEEEESH!!!!
>
>TNX/73,? ? ? Bob? K8BL
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>On Sunday, September 13, 2020, 02:26:18 PM EDT, Jerry via AMSAT-BB
><amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>Hello Wes,
>
>a properly logged sat qso is with correct uplink mode+dwnlink mode, the
>correct uplink+dwnlink freq(band), propagation mode SAT, time,etc.
>when uploading my qso's, every time some qsl's are rejected because
>people log them wrong. Without the right propagationmode SAT most of
>them looks like a tropo qso, and that's not the the same. You need to
>use good logging software.
>I've never seen VOICE as a mode of operation btw...?
>
>Best 73's
>Jerry
>----- Oorspronkelijk bericht -----
>Van: "amsat-bb" <amsat-bb@?????.???>
>Aan: "amsat-bb" <amsat-bb@?????.???>
>Verzonden: Zondag 13 september 2020 12:38:37
>Onderwerp: [amsat-bb] New version of LOTW
>
>Anyone else not pleased with the new version "improving" LOTW, at least
>as
>it involves SAT contacts?? Can we get ARRL to undo some things?? At
>least
>on my computer, you no longer can press the Enter key to go down entry
>fields one after another.? It's a much slower process now.? Also, the
>two
>most common modes that we've been using on LOTW, CW and VOICE, are no
>longer first in line, where an expanded list of modes is alphabetized.
>This also slows down entries.? Worse yet, VOICE is no longer a listed
>mode
>at all.? It's been replaced by SSB, LSB and USB.? I could be wrong, but
>isn't this in particular going to make QSO matching more difficult??
>Should
>SAT ops simply enter SSB, or should it be USB (the output of
>satellites) or
>LSB (our input to them)?? In sum, the whole process is now slower with
>multiple opportunities for matching errors and contacts not being
>confirmed.? Ugh.
>
>Wes NA1ME
>_______________________________________________
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>to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2020 09:19:05 -0400
From: Don KB2YSI <kb2ysi@?????.???>
To: "W3AB/GEO" <w3ab@?????.???>
Cc: amsat-bb <amsat-bb@?????.???>, Wes Baden <badencapecod@?????.???>,
The LoTW Team <lotw-admin@????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] New version of LOTW
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I suggest you join the ARRL-LoTW@??????.?? to see what is going on. Rich
Murphy (I think I have the name correct), the author of TSQL, is very
active on there. Make sure you SEARCH before posting.
People who are volunteering to make software, services, etc... should be
treated as humans. Sad that it needs to be said.
TSQL ! = LoTW
I have had no issues with the new version of TSQL logging satellite
contacts. FM & SSB are still accepted/available.
On Sun, Sep 13, 2020, 19:23 W3AB/GEO via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
wrote:
> I'll betcha there was a bunch of coders who didn't get good directions
> from HQ, didn't talk to each other & prolly aren't hams.
>
> ?___
> Sent from my two way wrist watch
> 73 de W3AB/GEO?
>
> On Sep 13, 2020, 12:36, at 12:36, "Bob Liddy (K8BL) via AMSAT-BB" <
> amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
> >Jerry (No Call), Wes-NA1ME, et al:
> >
> >Well, it appears the ARRL adds to the LoTW confusion themselves.
> >
> >For Awards, on DXCC there are categories for modes CW, PHONE & DIGITAL.
> >
> >For WAS there are categories for modes CW, PHONE, DIGITAL, FT4, FT8,
> >PSK31
> >and RTTY.
> >
> >For VUCC, there are no mode categories since it only concerns Grids.
> >
> >For QSO listings, there are a ton of modes available. But, when it
> >comes to Voice type
> >modes there are many varieties - PHONE, FM, AM, SSB, etc. However there
> >NO
> >entries for USB or LSB, just SSB.
> >
> >In the newest version of TQSL, there are mode choices for SSB-type QSOs
> >of USB, LSB
> >and merely SSB in addition to many other types of modes in the longest
> >list ever known
> >to mankind.
> >
> >So, is there any wonder that LoTW users are confused????? Sometimes
> >it's PHONE and
> >sometimes it's SSB and sometimes it's a version of SSB (LSB/USB).
> >GEEEEESH!!!!
> >
> >TNX/73, Bob K8BL
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >On Sunday, September 13, 2020, 02:26:18 PM EDT, Jerry via AMSAT-BB
> ><amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Hello Wes,
> >
> >a properly logged sat qso is with correct uplink mode+dwnlink mode, the
> >correct uplink+dwnlink freq(band), propagation mode SAT, time,etc.
> >when uploading my qso's, every time some qsl's are rejected because
> >people log them wrong. Without the right propagationmode SAT most of
> >them looks like a tropo qso, and that's not the the same. You need to
> >use good logging software.
> >I've never seen VOICE as a mode of operation btw...
> >
> >Best 73's
> >Jerry
> >----- Oorspronkelijk bericht -----
> >Van: "amsat-bb" <amsat-bb@?????.???>
> >Aan: "amsat-bb" <amsat-bb@?????.???>
> >Verzonden: Zondag 13 september 2020 12:38:37
> >Onderwerp: [amsat-bb] New version of LOTW
> >
> >Anyone else not pleased with the new version "improving" LOTW, at least
> >as
> >it involves SAT contacts? Can we get ARRL to undo some things? At
> >least
> >on my computer, you no longer can press the Enter key to go down entry
> >fields one after another. It's a much slower process now. Also, the
> >two
> >most common modes that we've been using on LOTW, CW and VOICE, are no
> >longer first in line, where an expanded list of modes is alphabetized.
> >This also slows down entries. Worse yet, VOICE is no longer a listed
> >mode
> >at all. It's been replaced by SSB, LSB and USB. I could be wrong, but
> >isn't this in particular going to make QSO matching more difficult?
> >Should
> >SAT ops simply enter SSB, or should it be USB (the output of
> >satellites) or
> >LSB (our input to them)? In sum, the whole process is now slower with
> >multiple opportunities for matching errors and contacts not being
> >confirmed. Ugh.
> >
> >Wes NA1ME
> >_______________________________________________
> >Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> >to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> >Opinions expressed
> >are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
> >of AMSAT-NA.
> >Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> >program!
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> >
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Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2020 09:20:25 -0400
From: Don KB2YSI <kb2ysi@?????.???>
To: "W3AB/GEO" <w3ab@?????.???>
Cc: amsat-bb <amsat-bb@?????.???>, Wes Baden <badencapecod@?????.???>,
The LoTW Team <lotw-admin@????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] New version of LOTW
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ARRL-LoTW@??????.????.??? is another place to get information /in touch
with Rick about TSQL.
On Mon, Sep 14, 2020, 09:19 Don KB2YSI <kb2ysi@?????.???> wrote:
> I suggest you join the ARRL-LoTW@??????.?? to see what is going on. Rich
> Murphy (I think I have the name correct), the author of TSQL, is very
> active on there. Make sure you SEARCH before posting.
>
> People who are volunteering to make software, services, etc... should be
> treated as humans. Sad that it needs to be said.
>
> TSQL ! = LoTW
>
> I have had no issues with the new version of TSQL logging satellite
> contacts. FM & SSB are still accepted/available.
>
> On Sun, Sep 13, 2020, 19:23 W3AB/GEO via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
> wrote:
>
>> I'll betcha there was a bunch of coders who didn't get good directions
>> from HQ, didn't talk to each other & prolly aren't hams.
>>
>> ?___
>> Sent from my two way wrist watch
>> 73 de W3AB/GEO?
>>
>> On Sep 13, 2020, 12:36, at 12:36, "Bob Liddy (K8BL) via AMSAT-BB" <
>> amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>> >Jerry (No Call), Wes-NA1ME, et al:
>> >
>> >Well, it appears the ARRL adds to the LoTW confusion themselves.
>> >
>> >For Awards, on DXCC there are categories for modes CW, PHONE & DIGITAL.
>> >
>> >For WAS there are categories for modes CW, PHONE, DIGITAL, FT4, FT8,
>> >PSK31
>> >and RTTY.
>> >
>> >For VUCC, there are no mode categories since it only concerns Grids.
>> >
>> >For QSO listings, there are a ton of modes available. But, when it
>> >comes to Voice type
>> >modes there are many varieties - PHONE, FM, AM, SSB, etc. However there
>> >NO
>> >entries for USB or LSB, just SSB.
>> >
>> >In the newest version of TQSL, there are mode choices for SSB-type QSOs
>> >of USB, LSB
>> >and merely SSB in addition to many other types of modes in the longest
>> >list ever known
>> >to mankind.
>> >
>> >So, is there any wonder that LoTW users are confused????? Sometimes
>> >it's PHONE and
>> >sometimes it's SSB and sometimes it's a version of SSB (LSB/USB).
>> >GEEEEESH!!!!
>> >
>> >TNX/73, Bob K8BL
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >On Sunday, September 13, 2020, 02:26:18 PM EDT, Jerry via AMSAT-BB
>> ><amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >Hello Wes,
>> >
>> >a properly logged sat qso is with correct uplink mode+dwnlink mode, the
>> >correct uplink+dwnlink freq(band), propagation mode SAT, time,etc.
>> >when uploading my qso's, every time some qsl's are rejected because
>> >people log them wrong. Without the right propagationmode SAT most of
>> >them looks like a tropo qso, and that's not the the same. You need to
>> >use good logging software.
>> >I've never seen VOICE as a mode of operation btw...
>> >
>> >Best 73's
>> >Jerry
>> >----- Oorspronkelijk bericht -----
>> >Van: "amsat-bb" <amsat-bb@?????.???>
>> >Aan: "amsat-bb" <amsat-bb@?????.???>
>> >Verzonden: Zondag 13 september 2020 12:38:37
>> >Onderwerp: [amsat-bb] New version of LOTW
>> >
>> >Anyone else not pleased with the new version "improving" LOTW, at least
>> >as
>> >it involves SAT contacts? Can we get ARRL to undo some things? At
>> >least
>> >on my computer, you no longer can press the Enter key to go down entry
>> >fields one after another. It's a much slower process now. Also, the
>> >two
>> >most common modes that we've been using on LOTW, CW and VOICE, are no
>> >longer first in line, where an expanded list of modes is alphabetized.
>> >This also slows down entries. Worse yet, VOICE is no longer a listed
>> >mode
>> >at all. It's been replaced by SSB, LSB and USB. I could be wrong, but
>> >isn't this in particular going to make QSO matching more difficult?
>> >Should
>> >SAT ops simply enter SSB, or should it be USB (the output of
>> >satellites) or
>> >LSB (our input to them)? In sum, the whole process is now slower with
>> >multiple opportunities for matching errors and contacts not being
>> >confirmed. Ugh.
>> >
>> >Wes NA1ME
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