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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: SatPC32 actinh wierd (Jeff)
   2. Re: FUNcube-1 / AO-73 glitch + commanded reboot (Wouter Weggelaar)
   3. Re: EO-80 FM Transponder doubt (Greg D)
   4. Re: FUNcube-1 / AO-73 glitch + commanded reboot (Paulo PV8DX)
   5. Geosynchronous payload inches closer to reality (Robert McGwier)
   6. Re: FUNcube-1 / AO-73 glitch + commanded reboot (Paul Stoetzer)
   7. FC1 Warehouse recovery (David Johnson)
   8. Re: PSAT Igates needed (Nitin Muttin)
   9. Re: PSAT Igates needed (Mike Rupprecht)
  10. Re: PSAT Igates needed (Nitin Muttin)
  11. FUNcube Warehouse Registration (David Johnson)


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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2015 16:38:18 -0400
From: "Jeff" <jeff_griffin@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: "Scott Smith" <ve6itv@xxxxx.xxx>,	"Amsat" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] SatPC32 actinh wierd
Message-ID: <96BF196EE5EF4300ACF98D83C24E8B57@xxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8";
reply-type=original

I feel your pain Scotty, I  have a similar problem with my 9100, LVB, and
SatPC32. In my case the LVB would show a memory error and I would lose
calibration. Only way to fix would be a full re-calibration. This is a real
pain to go through during a pass so I just remember to turn on the LVB, then
the 9100, then bring up SatPC32. I know of no other way around this....

73 Jeff kb2m

-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Smith
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2015 4:00 PM
To: Amsat
Subject: [amsat-bb] SatPC32 actinh wierd

Hi, I fired up  my SatPC32 in the wrong order from the way I usually do it,
I usually turn on radio and my LVB tracker first then fire up the computer.
The LVB  works fine,but I got a message ?could not open Com3 and to check if
It was available? this is weird as this laptop is dedicated only for
satellite use, and I have not changed anything. I use a Kenwwod IF232r
between my computer and my TS790a radio. I opened the device manager and it
says for the FT232r USB UART ?the drivers for this device are not installed
(Code 28). I tried to downoard the driver from ZLP and it still does not
work?, any ideas? Tnx in advance. 73 de VE6ITV Scott
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2015 23:41:11 +0200
From: Wouter Weggelaar <wouterweg@xxxxx.xxx>
To: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] FUNcube-1 / AO-73 glitch + commanded reboot
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Hi All,

I can also confirm FUNcube was switched back to autonomous mode around
21:38 UTC.

73s,

Wouter PA3WEG

On Sun, Jun 21, 2015 at 10:31 PM, Wouter Weggelaar <wouterweg@xxxxx.xxx>
wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> We have had an anomaly on FUNcube-1 that required us to reboot the
> satellites MCU (Microcontroller).
>
> After a bus freeze, the databus watchdog did kick in as expected and
> rebooted the satellite. However, we did need to command the satellite back
> on to automatic mode.
>
> When we did so on the 20:00 UTC pass, it came back up in the correct mode.
>
> We envisage to switch back to autonomous mode either tonight or tomorrow
> morning local time.
>
> FUNcube is still happy and healthy. This is the 4th reboot since launch,
> of which one was intentional. Thanks for your reports and concerns.
>
> On behalf of the whole team best 73s,
>
> Wouter Weggelaar
> PA3WEG
> FUNcube team
>


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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2015 18:56:58 -0700
From: Greg D <ko6th.greg@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Pavel Milanes Costa <co7wt@xxxxxx.xx.xx>, amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] EO-80 FM Transponder doubt
Message-ID: <55876B6A.4070904@xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed

Yes, Pavel, but since the frequency heard by the satellite as it
approaches is higher than what you sent, you need to send at a lower
frequency to compensate.  The idea is that you want the frequency heard
at the satellite to be constant.

As the satellite passes the midpoint, and recedes from view, the
frequency it hears is lower than what you transmitted.  So you need to
send at a higher frequency to compensate, again so that the satellite
hears a constant signal.

So, during the pass your transmitter needs to go from lower to higher.

The physics works the same for your reception (it better!), but since
the satellite isn't changing its frequency to be constant at your end,
you need to move from higher (on approach) to lower (towards LOS) to
conpensate.

Greg  KO6TH


Pavel Milanes Costa wrote:
> I have a doubt...
>
> A few days ago Paul put a list of the proposed channel for EO-80..
>
> I have noted that the TX freqs are from lower to higher (AOS to LOS),
> is that correct?
>
> From the sat point of view a Tx on the center freq will appears as
> shifted up at the AOS because the two point are getting closer
> (doppler is summing), in fact no matter is the freq is for TX or RX if
> at AOS the shift must be + not -
>
> I'm right?
>
> PS: with the 2.5 Khz of the new Chinese radios the 2m downlink can be
> shifted to +2.5 Khz at AOS and -2.5 Khz at LOS to improve reception
> quality
>
> El 17/06/15 a las 12:59, Paul Stoetzer escibi?:
>> Anyone who wants to program memories for EO-80 should follow this plan:
>>
>> EO-80 AOS - TX 435.070 MHz 210.7 Hz CTCSS, RX 145.840 MHz
>> EO-80 2      -  TX 435.075 MHz 210.7 Hz CTCSS, RX 145.840 MHz
>> EO-80 TCA  -  TX 435.080 MHz 210.7 Hz CTCSS, RX 145.840 MHz
>> EO-80 4      -  TX 435.085 MHz 210.7 Hz CTCSS, RX 145.840 MHz
>> EO-80 LOS -  TX 435.090 MHz 210.7 Hz CTCSS, RX 145.840 MHz
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2015 22:34:37 -0400
From: "Paulo PV8DX" <paulopv8dx@xxxxx.xxx>
To: <AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] FUNcube-1 / AO-73 glitch + commanded reboot
Message-ID: <59E6A4E5AEF4427E8B6C75CCEFB34FC6@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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HI, happy day

Passage now 02:16 UTC (22 june)
Contact PU2RAS and LU3EMB.
And to finish with WA5KBH to 02:26
100%  AO73.


73 de Paulo PV8DX
LABRE/ARRL
AMSAT-BR/AMSAT-NA member
FJ92pt - VUCC SAT
www.labre-rr.org
pv8dx@xxxxxxxx.xxx
pv8dx@xxxx.xxx

-----Mensagem Original-----
From: Wouter Weggelaar
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2015 5:41 PM
To: AMSAT-BB
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] FUNcube-1 / AO-73 glitch + commanded reboot

Hi All,

I can also confirm FUNcube was switched back to autonomous mode around
21:38 UTC.

73s,

Wouter PA3WEG

On Sun, Jun 21, 2015 at 10:31 PM, Wouter Weggelaar <wouterweg@xxxxx.xxx>
wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> We have had an anomaly on FUNcube-1 that required us to reboot the
> satellites MCU (Microcontroller).
>
> After a bus freeze, the databus watchdog did kick in as expected and
> rebooted the satellite. However, we did need to command the satellite back
> on to automatic mode.
>
> When we did so on the 20:00 UTC pass, it came back up in the correct mode.
>
> We envisage to switch back to autonomous mode either tonight or tomorrow
> morning local time.
>
> FUNcube is still happy and healthy. This is the 4th reboot since launch,
> of which one was intentional. Thanks for your reports and concerns.
>
> On behalf of the whole team best 73s,
>
> Wouter Weggelaar
> PA3WEG
> FUNcube team
>
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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2015 22:35:17 -0400
From: Robert McGwier <rwmcgwier@xxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat bb <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>, "AMSAT/MSS Mission"
<phase4@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Geosynchronous payload inches closer to reality
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<CA+K5gzead-R9P0_+MNGyBcjYgq_tgXO2b-KcQ2rsbaM7-37jVA@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
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Colonel Fred Kennedy,  USAF,  Space Production Division and Program Manager
for the Wide Field of View satellite (hereinafter WFOV) has accepted the
proposal to allow Virginia Tech to place a hosted payload consisting of a
Software Defined Radio designed and built by Rincon Research Corporation
using support equipment and antennas designed by Virginia Tech and other
volunteers to this effort.  The spacecraft hosted amateur payload will be
included in the Aquila M8 bus by Millennium Space Systems who is the
integrator for WFOV.  Our first role and immediate action item is to raise
the $100,000 for Millennium to complete the study of the inclusion of this
payload on Wide Field Of View.  Following successful completion of this
study,  Virginia Tech will raise money to defray the cost of integration
and launch of this payload.  After achieving orbit,  volunteers managed by
Sonya Rowe and Zach Leffke of Virginia Tech will operate the payload for as
long as it is over the US.  We at VT with the help of the ARRL will
 prepare partners in other regions to operate the spacecraft should it be
moved in order to allow the WFOV to accomplish its primary mission and be
prepared to take over operation of the hosted payload on its return to the
area of CONUS.

Colonel Kennedy told me how much he admires how unbelievably capable
amateurs around the world have been in their many organizations to get
spacecraft to orbit and wishes us the best of luck in the onerous task we
will have of raising $5M to get this on board.

I will be making many details public now that Colonel Kennedy has told us
we are a go if we raise the money.  I know this is a tall order but
(begging the forgiveness of our female audience members)  "A coward dies a
thousand deaths and a brave man dies only once".  I would rather go down
trying than cower in a closet.  This is not intended as casting aspersions
on any individual or organization just saying I must proceed hastily to
succeed at all and I cannot afford caution.


Let's GO!
Bob

--
Bob McGwier
Co-Founder and Technical Director, Federated Wireless, LLC
Research Professor Virginia Tech
Senior Member IEEE, Facebook: N4HYBob, ARS: N4HY
Faculty Advisor Virginia Tech Amateur Radio Assn. (K4KDJ)


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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2015 22:40:27 -0400
From: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx>
To: Paulo PV8DX <paulopv8dx@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] FUNcube-1 / AO-73 glitch + commanded reboot
Message-ID:
<CABzOSOpGgLYkdO50OiaPLd9xUTY40isEHYDT8+W00tcEwG-sig@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

I heard Paulo's QSO with WA5KBH at my AOS and called CQ for the next
three minutes until the satellite entered the sunlight. The satellite
sounded perfectly normal.

And now we are beyond the summer solstice in the Northern Hemisphere,
so available transponder time on weekday evening passes will start to
increase.

73,

Paul, N8HM

On Sun, Jun 21, 2015 at 10:34 PM, Paulo PV8DX <paulopv8dx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> HI, happy day
>
> Passage now 02:16 UTC (22 june)
> Contact PU2RAS and LU3EMB.
> And to finish with WA5KBH to 02:26
> 100%  AO73.
>
>
> 73 de Paulo PV8DX
> LABRE/ARRL
> AMSAT-BR/AMSAT-NA member
> FJ92pt - VUCC SAT
> www.labre-rr.org
> pv8dx@xxxxxxxx.xxx
> pv8dx@xxxx.xxx
>
> -----Mensagem Original----- From: Wouter Weggelaar
> Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2015 5:41 PM
> To: AMSAT-BB
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] FUNcube-1 / AO-73 glitch + commanded reboot
>
>
> Hi All,
>
> I can also confirm FUNcube was switched back to autonomous mode around
> 21:38 UTC.
>
> 73s,
>
> Wouter PA3WEG
>
> On Sun, Jun 21, 2015 at 10:31 PM, Wouter Weggelaar <wouterweg@xxxxx.xxx>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> We have had an anomaly on FUNcube-1 that required us to reboot the
>> satellites MCU (Microcontroller).
>>
>> After a bus freeze, the databus watchdog did kick in as expected and
>> rebooted the satellite. However, we did need to command the satellite back
>> on to automatic mode.
>>
>> When we did so on the 20:00 UTC pass, it came back up in the correct mode.
>>
>> We envisage to switch back to autonomous mode either tonight or tomorrow
>> morning local time.
>>
>> FUNcube is still happy and healthy. This is the 4th reboot since launch,
>> of which one was intentional. Thanks for your reports and concerns.
>>
>> On behalf of the whole team best 73s,
>>
>> Wouter Weggelaar
>> PA3WEG
>> FUNcube team
>>
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 09:47:33 +0100
From: David Johnson <dave@xxxxx.xx.xx>
To: AmsatBB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] FC1 Warehouse recovery
Message-ID:
<CAHOBG6WwJJQdjznsovL0QTfdP-zf8iWRPR8mms-vnDW1mCi37w@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Hi,

If you look at the realtime data today, you may see that the MinMax
RealTime values are not populated we are fixing up the database as a result
of the erroneous values that were recorded between failure and recovery.

73


- Dave, G4DPZ


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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 10:52:55 +0000 (UTC)
From: Nitin Muttin <vu3tyg@xxxxx.xx.xx>
To: Robert Bruninga <bruninga@xxxx.xxx>, 	"amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] PSAT Igates needed
Message-ID:
<1980519883.2039722.1434970375127.JavaMail.yahoo@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

I will keep my satgate running from tomm. Can someone share the keps for
PSAT as i see this is not yet available when I update TLE files in
orbitron.?73
Nitin [VU3TYG]

      From: Robert Bruninga <bruninga@xxxx.xxx>
 To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
 Sent: Thursday, 18 June 2015 9:44 PM
 Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT Igates needed

We need PSAT IGates in Hawaii, India, China and anywhere in the Southern
Hempsiphere.

We did a look at the IGates that are successfully injecting PSAT packets
and did a map of them on the PSAT page:



http://aprs.org/psat.html



Notice that this map of stations are not all of the IGATES on 145.825 which
includes the ISS, but this is because the ISS is 14 dB stronger than PSAT.
So a station with an omni terrestrial antenna that picks up the ISS just
fine may not hear PSAT at all.



So if you have ever thought about being a satellite IGate, now is the
time.? And the ideal OMNI antenna for PSAT is a simple 19.5? vertical whip
over a large metal ground plane.? An even better one (+2 dB)? is a ? wave
vertical whip (58?) over a large metal ground plane.? And it is OK to keep
this antenna lower to the ground since it will not hear anything below 25
degrees anyway and in fact, the lower it is, with surroundings blocking it,
the less interference it will have.



IGATES that hear weak signal PSAT show on http://pcsat.aprs.org

All 145.825 IGATES show on the http://ariss.net page but they may not hear
PSAT.



Another reason to keep your Space IGATE antenna low is because they create
DONUT Hole Data NULLS.? Anyone who transmits a packet on the UPLINK TO one
of these sateliltes and is heard by an IGATE direct, will be ignored on the
downlink, since the packet has already been heard.? Therefere the digipeat
will not be recorded by the above FINDU.COM pages?



Bob, WB4APR



*From:* Robert Bruninga [mailto:bruninga@xxxx.xxxx
*Sent:* Thursday, June 18, 2015 7:34 AM
*To:* amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
*Cc:* bruninga@xxxx.xxx
*Subject:* PSAT digipeating and Position Knowledge



PSAT continues to work well, both APRS and PSK31.? The downlink capture on
the PCSAT.APRS.ORG page captures most PSAT packets, but does not capture
any digipeated users if they use the ARISS path.? Although PSAT supports
the VIA ARISS alias so that users can use both ISS and PSAT without
changing parameters the FINDU page does not recognize it.



At this point it is unclear what paths that FINDU recognizes.



These paths are supposed to be digipeated by PSAT:

VIA ARISS

VIA APRSAT

VIA PSAT

VIA WIDEn-N



Here is what we know:



ARISS is not recognized by FINDU.

We are not sure if FINDU recognizes APRSAT

We are not sure if PSAT recognizes PSAT

We have seen VIA WIDEn-N work on FINDU



We have been busy with deadlines on our next satellite, but yesterday we
figured a workaround on the PSAT ORBIT and MA clock.? This morning we sent
the commands and will be watching to see if they work.? If they did, then
PSAT will be able to know where it is, and then we can activate its APRS
POSITION packets plus individual beacons over individual continents.



Although the S#OOOMM? telemetry was supposed to be ORBIT number and MINUTE
of that orbit, the clock is totally off.? SO instead of going from 0 to 95
minutes per orbit, the actual count is more like 0-61 minutes per orbit.
So, if this works, then MM is not real minutes, but is a number between 00
to 61 on every orbit.? And 0 should be when the satellite crosses the
equator (actually 5 South latitude)? on every orbit northbound.



Once we get that under control, then PSAT will know where it is, and it
will be able to report its own position.? And we can activate its attitude
control, and we can activate different bulletins over each continent.



Bob, WB4APR
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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 12:59:59 +0200
From: "Mike Rupprecht" <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xx>
To: "'Nitin Muttin'" <vu3tyg@xxxxx.xx.xx>,	"'Robert Bruninga'"
<bruninga@xxxx.xxx>, <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] PSAT Igates needed
Message-ID: <000301d0acda$952a74e0$bf7f5ea0$@xx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="utf-8"

PSAT
1 90720U          15171.33822084 +.00014976 +00000-0 +39525-3 0 00448
2 90720 054.9963 206.9484 0244212 257.7905 099.527  15.13789412004657

73 Mike
DK3WN

-----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx Im Auftrag von Nitin Muttin
Gesendet: 22 June 2015 12:53
An: Robert Bruninga; amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Betreff: Re: [amsat-bb] PSAT Igates needed

I will keep my satgate running from tomm. Can someone share the keps for
PSAT as i see this is not yet available when I update TLE files in orbitron.
73 Nitin [VU3TYG]

      From: Robert Bruninga <bruninga@xxxx.xxx>
 To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
 Sent: Thursday, 18 June 2015 9:44 PM
 Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT Igates needed

We need PSAT IGates in Hawaii, India, China and anywhere in the Southern
Hempsiphere.

We did a look at the IGates that are successfully injecting PSAT packets and
did a map of them on the PSAT page:



http://aprs.org/psat.html



Notice that this map of stations are not all of the IGATES on 145.825 which
includes the ISS, but this is because the ISS is 14 dB stronger than PSAT.
So a station with an omni terrestrial antenna that picks up the ISS just
fine may not hear PSAT at all.



So if you have ever thought about being a satellite IGate, now is the time. 
And the ideal OMNI antenna for PSAT is a simple 19.5? vertical whip over a
large metal ground plane.  An even better one (+2 dB)  is a ? wave vertical
whip (58?) over a large metal ground plane.  And it is OK to keep this
antenna lower to the ground since it will not hear anything below 25 degrees
anyway and in fact, the lower it is, with surroundings blocking it, the less
interference it will have.



IGATES that hear weak signal PSAT show on http://pcsat.aprs.org

All 145.825 IGATES show on the http://ariss.net page but they may not hear
PSAT.



Another reason to keep your Space IGATE antenna low is because they create
DONUT Hole Data NULLS.  Anyone who transmits a packet on the UPLINK TO one
of these sateliltes and is heard by an IGATE direct, will be ignored on the
downlink, since the packet has already been heard.  Therefere the digipeat
will not be recorded by the above FINDU.COM pages?



Bob, WB4APR



*From:* Robert Bruninga [mailto:bruninga@xxxx.xxxx
*Sent:* Thursday, June 18, 2015 7:34 AM
*To:* amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
*Cc:* bruninga@xxxx.xxx
*Subject:* PSAT digipeating and Position Knowledge



PSAT continues to work well, both APRS and PSK31.  The downlink capture on
the PCSAT.APRS.ORG page captures most PSAT packets, but does not capture any
digipeated users if they use the ARISS path.  Although PSAT supports the VIA
ARISS alias so that users can use both ISS and PSAT without changing
parameters the FINDU page does not recognize it.



At this point it is unclear what paths that FINDU recognizes.



These paths are supposed to be digipeated by PSAT:

VIA ARISS

VIA APRSAT

VIA PSAT

VIA WIDEn-N



Here is what we know:



ARISS is not recognized by FINDU.

We are not sure if FINDU recognizes APRSAT

We are not sure if PSAT recognizes PSAT

We have seen VIA WIDEn-N work on FINDU



We have been busy with deadlines on our next satellite, but yesterday we
figured a workaround on the PSAT ORBIT and MA clock.  This morning we sent
the commands and will be watching to see if they work.  If they did, then
PSAT will be able to know where it is, and then we can activate its APRS
POSITION packets plus individual beacons over individual continents.



Although the S#OOOMM? telemetry was supposed to be ORBIT number and MINUTE
of that orbit, the clock is totally off.  SO instead of going from 0 to 95
minutes per orbit, the actual count is more like 0-61 minutes per orbit.
So, if this works, then MM is not real minutes, but is a number between 00
to 61 on every orbit.  And 0 should be when the satellite crosses the
equator (actually 5 South latitude)  on every orbit northbound.



Once we get that under control, then PSAT will know where it is, and it will
be able to report its own position.  And we can activate its attitude
control, and we can activate different bulletins over each continent.



Bob, WB4APR
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interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official
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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 11:03:31 +0000 (UTC)
From: Nitin Muttin <vu3tyg@xxxxx.xx.xx>
To: Mike Rupprecht <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xx>, 	'Robert Bruninga'
<bruninga@xxxx.xxx>, 	"amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] PSAT Igates needed
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Thanks Mike, I have been off the Air for some time now due to moving to a
new home. In the process of setting up the station again.?73
Nitin [VU3TYG]

      From: Mike Rupprecht <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xx>
 To: 'Nitin Muttin' <vu3tyg@xxxxx.xx.xx>; 'Robert Bruninga'
<bruninga@xxxx.xxx>; amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
 Sent: Monday, 22 June 2015 4:29 PM
 Subject: AW: [amsat-bb] PSAT Igates needed

PSAT
1 90720U? ? ? ? ? 15171.33822084 +.00014976 +00000-0 +39525-3 0 00448
2 90720 054.9963 206.9484 0244212 257.7905 099.527? 15.13789412004657

73 Mike
DK3WN



-----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx Im Auftrag von Nitin Muttin
Gesendet: 22 June 2015 12:53
An: Robert Bruninga; amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Betreff: Re: [amsat-bb] PSAT Igates needed

I will keep my satgate running from tomm. Can someone share the keps for
PSAT as i see this is not yet available when I update TLE files in orbitron.
73 Nitin [VU3TYG]

? ? ? From: Robert Bruninga <bruninga@xxxx.xxx>
 To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
 Sent: Thursday, 18 June 2015 9:44 PM
 Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT Igates needed
?
We need PSAT IGates in Hawaii, India, China and anywhere in the Southern
Hempsiphere.

We did a look at the IGates that are successfully injecting PSAT packets and
did a map of them on the PSAT page:



http://aprs.org/psat.html



Notice that this map of stations are not all of the IGATES on 145.825 which
includes the ISS, but this is because the ISS is 14 dB stronger than PSAT.
So a station with an omni terrestrial antenna that picks up the ISS just
fine may not hear PSAT at all.



So if you have ever thought about being a satellite IGate, now is the time.?
And the ideal OMNI antenna for PSAT is a simple 19.5? vertical whip over a
large metal ground plane.? An even better one (+2 dB)? is a ? wave vertical
whip (58?) over a large metal ground plane.? And it is OK to keep this
antenna lower to the ground since it will not hear anything below 25 degrees
anyway and in fact, the lower it is, with surroundings blocking it, the less
interference it will have.



IGATES that hear weak signal PSAT show on http://pcsat.aprs.org

All 145.825 IGATES show on the http://ariss.net page but they may not hear
PSAT.



Another reason to keep your Space IGATE antenna low is because they create
DONUT Hole Data NULLS.? Anyone who transmits a packet on the UPLINK TO one
of these sateliltes and is heard by an IGATE direct, will be ignored on the
downlink, since the packet has already been heard.? Therefere the digipeat
will not be recorded by the above FINDU.COM pages?



Bob, WB4APR



*From:* Robert Bruninga [mailto:bruninga@xxxx.xxxx
*Sent:* Thursday, June 18, 2015 7:34 AM
*To:* amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
*Cc:* bruninga@xxxx.xxx
*Subject:* PSAT digipeating and Position Knowledge



PSAT continues to work well, both APRS and PSK31.? The downlink capture on
the PCSAT.APRS.ORG page captures most PSAT packets, but does not capture any
digipeated users if they use the ARISS path.? Although PSAT supports the VIA
ARISS alias so that users can use both ISS and PSAT without changing
parameters the FINDU page does not recognize it.



At this point it is unclear what paths that FINDU recognizes.



These paths are supposed to be digipeated by PSAT:

VIA ARISS

VIA APRSAT

VIA PSAT

VIA WIDEn-N



Here is what we know:



ARISS is not recognized by FINDU.

We are not sure if FINDU recognizes APRSAT

We are not sure if PSAT recognizes PSAT

We have seen VIA WIDEn-N work on FINDU



We have been busy with deadlines on our next satellite, but yesterday we
figured a workaround on the PSAT ORBIT and MA clock.? This morning we sent
the commands and will be watching to see if they work.? If they did, then
PSAT will be able to know where it is, and then we can activate its APRS
POSITION packets plus individual beacons over individual continents.



Although the S#OOOMM? telemetry was supposed to be ORBIT number and MINUTE
of that orbit, the clock is totally off.? SO instead of going from 0 to 95
minutes per orbit, the actual count is more like 0-61 minutes per orbit.
So, if this works, then MM is not real minutes, but is a number between 00
to 61 on every orbit.? And 0 should be when the satellite crosses the
equator (actually 5 South latitude)? on every orbit northbound.



Once we get that under control, then PSAT will know where it is, and it will
be able to report its own position.? And we can activate its attitude
control, and we can activate different bulletins over each continent.



Bob, WB4APR
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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 12:47:05 +0100
From: David Johnson <dave@xxxxx.xx.xx>
To: AmsatBB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] FUNcube Warehouse Registration
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Hi,

The FC warehouse has been been receviveing data from many users since
depleoyemnt, for we which we are very greatful!.

Occasionally we get requests for the the re-issuing of Authentication keys
when someone has had to do a re-install of the Dashboard, these requests
are usually satisfied if a few hours.

If you have lost your key and would like to reinstall the software, please
send an emeil request with your SiteId to me.

73

Dave, G4DPZ
FUNcune Team Member


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