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Today's Topics:
1. Re: AO-7 (Andrew Glasbrenner)
2. Re: AO-7 (Joe)
3. Fair Price for Yaesu FT847 (Bill ACITO, W1PA)
4. Re: AO-7 (Paul Stoetzer)
5. AMSAT-UK Colloquium 2015 24-26 July 2015 Hotel Bookings (Jim Heck)
6. Re: Fair Price for Yaesu FT847 (Bill ACITO, W1PA)
7. APRS Satgate Antenna page (grouind planes) (Robert Bruninga)
8. HRD and linear birds (Vivona, Michael (CMG-Orlando))
9. Re: HRD and linear birds (Paul Stoetzer)
10. Re: HRD and linear birds (Mvivona)
11. Re: HRD and linear birds (Paul Stoetzer)
12. Re: HRD and linear birds (Andrew Glasbrenner)
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 08:58:44 -0400
From: Andrew Glasbrenner <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: Joe <nss@xxx.xxx>
Cc: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-7
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Mode B, vs. Mode A
Sent from my iPhone
> On Jun 24, 2015, at 8:41 AM, Joe <nss@xxx.xxx> wrote:
>
> AO-7B
>
> "B"?
>
> Joe WB9SBD
> Sig
> The Original Rolling Ball Clock
> Idle Tyme
> Idle-Tyme.com
> http://www.idle-tyme.com
>> On 6/23/2015 10:13 PM, Jim Jerzycke wrote:
>> It seemed to be working OK this afternoon, as I made several contacts on
it.
>>
>> 73, Jim KQ6EA
>>
>>
>>> On 06/24/2015 02:59 AM, Paul Stoetzer wrote:
>>> It also seems like the past couple of days is when AO-7B really hasn't
>>> been heard much. Perhaps the geomagnetic storms have been a factor
>>> too.
>>>
>>> 73,
>>>
>>> Paul, N8HM
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 6:06 PM, Andrew Glasbrenner
>>> <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>>>> AO-7 is switching to Mode A or off when stations are overtaxing the
transponder with excessive uplink power, especially on CW. If you plan on
AO-7 for field day, plan on Mode A and have a backup.
>>>>
>>>> 73, Drew KO4MA
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>>> On Jun 23, 2015, at 4:50 PM, W. M. Willoughby <redski@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Is anyone working AO-7B successfully? I am not hearing it and the Live
OSCAR Satellite Status Page is showing a variety of heard, not heard and
conflicting reports. It also appears to be randomly switching to mode A.
Does anyone have any info?
>>>>> Thanks,RedKC4LE@xxxxx.xxx
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 08:02:29 -0500
From: Joe <nss@xxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-7
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Ahhh OK,
I was thinking that,
So what is this old bird like when in Mode A,
How are signal levels as compared to when she was new in the 70's?
Joe WB9SBD
Sig
The Original Rolling Ball Clock
Idle Tyme
Idle-Tyme.com
http://www.idle-tyme.com
On 6/24/2015 7:58 AM, Andrew Glasbrenner wrote:
> Mode B, vs. Mode A
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jun 24, 2015, at 8:41 AM, Joe <nss@xxx.xxx> wrote:
>>
>> AO-7B
>>
>> "B"?
>>
>> Joe WB9SBD
>> Sig
>> The Original Rolling Ball Clock
>> Idle Tyme
>> Idle-Tyme.com
>> http://www.idle-tyme.com
>>> On 6/23/2015 10:13 PM, Jim Jerzycke wrote:
>>> It seemed to be working OK this afternoon, as I made several contacts on
it.
>>>
>>> 73, Jim KQ6EA
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 06/24/2015 02:59 AM, Paul Stoetzer wrote:
>>>> It also seems like the past couple of days is when AO-7B really hasn't
>>>> been heard much. Perhaps the geomagnetic storms have been a factor
>>>> too.
>>>>
>>>> 73,
>>>>
>>>> Paul, N8HM
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 6:06 PM, Andrew Glasbrenner
>>>> <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>>>>> AO-7 is switching to Mode A or off when stations are overtaxing the
transponder with excessive uplink power, especially on CW. If you plan on
AO-7 for field day, plan on Mode A and have a backup.
>>>>>
>>>>> 73, Drew KO4MA
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jun 23, 2015, at 4:50 PM, W. M. Willoughby <redski@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is anyone working AO-7B successfully? I am not hearing it and the
Live OSCAR Satellite Status Page is showing a variety of heard, not heard
and conflicting reports. It also appears to be randomly switching to mode A.
Does anyone have any info?
>>>>>> Thanks,RedKC4LE@xxxxx.xxx
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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>>>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
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>>>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
program!
>>>>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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>>>> _______________________________________________
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 09:58:46 -0400
From: "Bill ACITO, W1PA" <w1pa@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Fair Price for Yaesu FT847
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Make sure you get a later model year that has bi-directional
CAT, and not uni-directional.
Bill
W1PA
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 10:08:01 -0400
From: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx>
To: Joe <nss@xxx.xxx>
Cc: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-7
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AO-7 Mode A was always a bit weak compared to AO-6 and the RS birds
from what I have read.
Here's audio of a QSO between me and AC0RA on a nice high pass back in
December. I was using an AlexLoop Walkham Portable Magnetic Loop to
receive the downlink.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpeJ-l_E1po
73.
Paul, N8HM
On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 9:02 AM, Joe <nss@xxx.xxx> wrote:
> Ahhh OK,
> I was thinking that,
> So what is this old bird like when in Mode A,
> How are signal levels as compared to when she was new in the 70's?
>
> Joe WB9SBD
> Sig
> The Original Rolling Ball Clock
> Idle Tyme
> Idle-Tyme.com
> http://www.idle-tyme.com
> On 6/24/2015 7:58 AM, Andrew Glasbrenner wrote:
>>
>> Mode B, vs. Mode A
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Jun 24, 2015, at 8:41 AM, Joe <nss@xxx.xxx> wrote:
>>>
>>> AO-7B
>>>
>>> "B"?
>>>
>>> Joe WB9SBD
>>> Sig
>>> The Original Rolling Ball Clock
>>> Idle Tyme
>>> Idle-Tyme.com
>>> http://www.idle-tyme.com
>>>>
>>>> On 6/23/2015 10:13 PM, Jim Jerzycke wrote:
>>>> It seemed to be working OK this afternoon, as I made several contacts on
>>>> it.
>>>>
>>>> 73, Jim KQ6EA
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On 06/24/2015 02:59 AM, Paul Stoetzer wrote:
>>>>> It also seems like the past couple of days is when AO-7B really hasn't
>>>>> been heard much. Perhaps the geomagnetic storms have been a factor
>>>>> too.
>>>>>
>>>>> 73,
>>>>>
>>>>> Paul, N8HM
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 6:06 PM, Andrew Glasbrenner
>>>>> <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> AO-7 is switching to Mode A or off when stations are overtaxing the
>>>>>> transponder with excessive uplink power, especially on CW. If you
plan on
>>>>>> AO-7 for field day, plan on Mode A and have a backup.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 73, Drew KO4MA
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Jun 23, 2015, at 4:50 PM, W. M. Willoughby <redski@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Is anyone working AO-7B successfully? I am not hearing it and the
>>>>>>> Live OSCAR Satellite Status Page is showing a variety of heard, not
heard
>>>>>>> and conflicting reports. It also appears to be randomly switching to
mode A.
>>>>>>> Does anyone have any info?
>>>>>>> Thanks,RedKC4LE@xxxxx.xxx
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>>>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>>>>>>> Opinions expressed
>>>>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
>>>>>>> of AMSAT-NA.
>>>>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>>>>>>> program!
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>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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>>>>>> of AMSAT-NA.
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>>>>>> program!
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>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>> program!
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 15:15:29 +0100
From: Jim Heck <jimlist@xxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT-UK Colloquium 2015 24-26 July 2015 Hotel
Bookings
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Hi Folks,
This is a final reminder that our reserved rooms at the Holiday Inn
Guildford will be 'released' at 1730 26th June.
If you wish to stay overnight at the hotel, I very strongly suggest that
you reserve your room NOW to avoid disappointment. All details are at
http://amsat-uk.org/colloquium/colloquium-2015/
If you don't wish to stay overnight - don't panic, you can turn up and
pay at the AMSAT shop as a day delegate.
73s Jim G3WGM
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 11:11:43 -0400
From: "Bill ACITO, W1PA" <w1pa@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: "Dennis Griffin" <EagleEyeDennis@xxx.xxx>, <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Fair Price for Yaesu FT847
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(Copied the list for everyone?s reference and benefit)
http://www.supercontrol.de/cat/ft847faq/ft847faq.htm
http://www.supercontrol.de/cat/ft847faq/page4.htm#catcontrol
Only FT-847s starting with serial # 8G05xxxx, or earlier units that were
sent back to Yaesu for retro-fit, will have bi-directional CAT. The ?update?
requires replacement of the main processer CPU chip (a high pin-count quad
flat pack, not for the faint of heart); I would want to see the Yaesu
receipt to confirm it was done. I was told that other updates were done at
various points in the lineage (e.g. better power switch?), but I don?t have
any details on that.
I have a uni-directional-CAT 847; to his credit and my continued, sincere
thanks, Erich (of SatPC32 fame) provided me a ?special? .exe last year so I
could use the radio with SatPC32. The limitation is that I must do all VFO,
doppler, and mode control from the PC -- if I touch the radio, the PC does
not recognize what I have done, and quickly overwrites the radio with what
it is doing.
Bill W1PA
From: Dennis Griffin
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2015 10:10 AM
To: Bill ACITO, W1PA
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Fair Price for Yaesu FT847
Hi Bill,
Is there a known cut-in s/n that would signify inclusion of this feature?
Were there any other feature changes at the time of this change?
If not, this change would only be of interest to those wanting to use CAT
control with their FT-847, correct?
73 de Dennis KD7CAC
Scottsdale, AZ
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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 12:41:43 -0400
From: Robert Bruninga <bruninga@xxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] APRS Satgate Antenna page (grouind planes)
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Subject: RE: APRS Satgate Antenna page
> One question,what constitutes a large ground plane?
> Is it 12"or 12'? Is it a multiple of the vertical whip?
Good question. Most people think that four 1/4 wave radials make a ground
plane. But if you model a 1/4 wave vertical over 1/4 wave radials, all you
get is the exact pattern of a DIPOLE. The radials are just providing a
"groundplane" to complete the electrical part of the antenna and give a good
match. They do not affect the pattern at all.
I modeled verticals over 6' or larger ground planes and only found that you
get the added "reflection" gain when the ground plane starts getting that
big or more. I wish I had time to use EZNEC to show the added gain
(skyward) versus the size of the ground plane. And how "radials" (above
actual ground) have nothing to do with the "pattern".
SO, the bigger the better. It should be worth 2 to 3 dB if you could make
it very large...
This is the page in question:
http://aprs.org/aprs-satellite-igate-antennas.html
This shows the very common misunderstandings of the term "ground plane".
(As a MATCHING system with 1/4 wave radials, or as a true Ground reflector
(infinite)
Bob, WB4aPR
On 6/19/2015 3:57 PM, Robert Bruninga via aprssig wrote:
> Subject: APRS Satgate Antenna page
>
> Since the ideal APRS Satellite IGate OMNI antenna is exactly the
> opposite of the typical terrestrial IGaate antenna, I prepared the
> following WEB page:
>
> http://aprs.org/aprs-satellite-igate-antennas.html
>
> It shows how a vertical ? or ? wave VHF omni equals the performance of
> a full OSCAR class array (over half the sky) but does it with no
> moving parts.
> It makes up for the weak-signal horizon part of the sky by there
> simply being more omni-IGates. The APRS-IS cloud with all of its
> IGates is probably one of the largest spatially distributed satellite
> receiver system in the world (?).
>
> But with people used to the 10W transmitter on the ISS, just a few
> IGates can capture just about every packet from the ISS horizon to
> horizon on a whip. But with the 14 dB weaker signal from PSAT, we
> need more SatGates to make up for their smaller skyprint. For the USA
> we need more than a dozen such Omni-SATgates.
>
> To see the significance of the weaker downlink from PSAT, look at the
> successful IGates on the http://pcsat.aprs.org page compared to the IGates
> that hear the ISS packets on http://ariss.net Both are listening on
> 145.825 and passing along every packet they hear. But only TRACKING
> IGates or good vertical gain satgates hear PSAT. And since we want
> these running 24/7/365, we do NOT expect people wearing out motors
> when an omni will do fine (if we have enough).
>
> The page also shows how every SATgate with a HIGH and terrestrial type
> antenna actually creates a DEADZONE around it, effectively blocking
> any nearby user heaerd direct from appearing on any of the APRS-IS
> cloud satellite web pages. Hence, Omni-satgate antennas should be low
> to everything surrounding it w hile still seeing the sky above 30 degrees.
>
> If your TH-D7 HT is just sitting there, not in use 99% of the time,
> then just hook it to a vertical whip and let it be an IGate. With the
> low antenna it will also probably be safe from all weather lightening too.
> Put
> the UHF side on 435.350 and turn up the speaker. When PSAT PSK31
> comes into view, you can watch the PSK31 activity as a bonus!
>
> Bob, WB4APR
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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 16:43:12 +0000
From: "Vivona, Michael (CMG-Orlando)" <michael.vivona@xxxx.xxx>
To: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] HRD and linear birds
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I am trying to get a clarification about using HamRadioDeluxe and linear
birds. I have heard on several occasions that HRD and its associated
satellite tracking module works fine for FM birds but not for linear birds.
Can someone please clarify what the actual issue is? I currently have HRD
version 6X and I am looking to purchase an IC9100 to mate it with. I have
contacted the HRD support folks, but the answer I get is: "not sure, try
it". Well, I don't have the IC9100 yet so I can't try it.
I have permission from my local AES outlet store to connect up my laptop to
one of there IC9100 before I buy it. So, I need to know what the actual
problem is with HRD and linear birds so I can try it in person.
I hope to get to the bottom of this once and for all.thanks in advance for
anyone that wants to jump in on this.
Michael Vivona
Sent from my iPad
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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 13:41:56 -0400
From: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx>
To: "Vivona, Michael (CMG-Orlando)" <michael.vivona@xxxx.xxx>
Cc: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] HRD and linear birds
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The automatic Doppler control does not work properly. I've never tried
it, so I'm not sure what the actual issue is.
SatPC32 is the way to go for computer control on the linear transponders.
73,
Paul, N8HM
On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 12:43 PM, Vivona, Michael (CMG-Orlando)
<michael.vivona@xxxx.xxx> wrote:
> I am trying to get a clarification about using HamRadioDeluxe and linear
birds. I have heard on several occasions that HRD and its associated
satellite tracking module works fine for FM birds but not for linear birds.
Can someone please clarify what the actual issue is? I currently have HRD
version 6X and I am looking to purchase an IC9100 to mate it with. I have
contacted the HRD support folks, but the answer I get is: "not sure, try
it". Well, I don't have the IC9100 yet so I can't try it.
> I have permission from my local AES outlet store to connect up my laptop
to one of there IC9100 before I buy it. So, I need to know what the actual
problem is with HRD and linear birds so I can try it in person.
> I hope to get to the bottom of this once and for all.thanks in advance for
anyone that wants to jump in on this.
>
> Michael Vivona
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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 14:00:08 -0400
From: Mvivona <Mvivona@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx>
Cc: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>, "Vivona, Michael
\(CMG-Orlando\)" <michael.vivona@xxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] HRD and linear birds
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I'm confused. How do you know it doesn't work if you don't know what the
issue is? Just sayin'.
Michael Vivona
Sent from my iPad
On Jun 24, 2015, at 1:41 PM, Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx> wrote:
The automatic Doppler control does not work properly. I've never tried
it, so I'm not sure what the actual issue is.
SatPC32 is the way to go for computer control on the linear transponders.
73,
Paul, N8HM
On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 12:43 PM, Vivona, Michael (CMG-Orlando)
<michael.vivona@xxxx.xxx> wrote:
> I am trying to get a clarification about using HamRadioDeluxe and linear
birds. I have heard on several occasions that HRD and its associated
satellite tracking module works fine for FM birds but not for linear birds.
Can someone please clarify what the actual issue is? I currently have HRD
version 6X and I am looking to purchase an IC9100 to mate it with. I have
contacted the HRD support folks, but the answer I get is: "not sure, try
it". Well, I don't have the IC9100 yet so I can't try it.
> I have permission from my local AES outlet store to connect up my laptop
to one of there IC9100 before I buy it. So, I need to know what the actual
problem is with HRD and linear birds so I can try it in person.
> I hope to get to the bottom of this once and for all.thanks in advance for
anyone that wants to jump in on this.
>
> Michael Vivona
> Sent from my iPad
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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 14:13:40 -0400
From: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx>
To: Mvivona <Mvivona@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>, "Vivona, Michael
\(CMG-Orlando\)" <michael.vivona@xxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] HRD and linear birds
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Based on reading posts here and elsewhere that it just doesn't work
very well for that purpose. It's a wonderful program for many things,
but Doppler correction on linear transponders just doesn't seem to
work well.
I know a ton of hams that successfully use SatPC32 to computer control
their stations. I do not know of any that use HRD. If anyone does,
please comment!
I have never personally used computer control because my operating
conditions make it quite difficult to implement (perhaps I could strap
a Windows 8 tablet running SatPC32 to my arm). When you are just
getting started it's best to learn to tune manually anyway. You don't
want to lose out on a rare grid or country just because your computer
control stops working for whatever reason!
73,
Paul, N8HM
On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 2:00 PM, Mvivona <Mvivona@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> I'm confused. How do you know it doesn't work if you don't know what the
issue is? Just sayin'.
>
> Michael Vivona
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Jun 24, 2015, at 1:41 PM, Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
> The automatic Doppler control does not work properly. I've never tried
> it, so I'm not sure what the actual issue is.
>
> SatPC32 is the way to go for computer control on the linear transponders.
>
> 73,
>
> Paul, N8HM
>
> On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 12:43 PM, Vivona, Michael (CMG-Orlando)
> <michael.vivona@xxxx.xxx> wrote:
>> I am trying to get a clarification about using HamRadioDeluxe and linear
birds. I have heard on several occasions that HRD and its associated
satellite tracking module works fine for FM birds but not for linear birds.
Can someone please clarify what the actual issue is? I currently have HRD
version 6X and I am looking to purchase an IC9100 to mate it with. I have
contacted the HRD support folks, but the answer I get is: "not sure, try
it". Well, I don't have the IC9100 yet so I can't try it.
>> I have permission from my local AES outlet store to connect up my laptop
to one of there IC9100 before I buy it. So, I need to know what the actual
problem is with HRD and linear birds so I can try it in person.
>> I hope to get to the bottom of this once and for all.thanks in advance
for anyone that wants to jump in on this.
>>
>> Michael Vivona
>> Sent from my iPad
>> _______________________________________________
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>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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Message: 12
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 14:17:01 -0400
From: Andrew Glasbrenner <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: Mvivona <Mvivona@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>, Paul Stoetzer
<n8hm@xxxx.xxx>, "Vivona, Michael \(CMG-Orlando\)"
<michael.vivona@xxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] HRD and linear birds
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In my case, from hearing a dozen+ ops try it on the air. The tuning does not
update the frequencies fast enough for use on SSB. In every case I've been
involved with, switching to SatPC32 solved the problem. $45 for SatPC32 will
make that $2500 radio sing on the transponders.
73, Drew KO4MA
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> On Jun 24, 2015, at 2:00 PM, Mvivona via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
wrote:
>
> I'm confused. How do you know it doesn't work if you don't know what the
issue is? Just sayin'.
>
> Michael Vivona
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Jun 24, 2015, at 1:41 PM, Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
> The automatic Doppler control does not work properly. I've never tried
> it, so I'm not sure what the actual issue is.
>
> SatPC32 is the way to go for computer control on the linear transponders.
>
> 73,
>
> Paul, N8HM
>
> On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 12:43 PM, Vivona, Michael (CMG-Orlando)
> <michael.vivona@xxxx.xxx> wrote:
>> I am trying to get a clarification about using HamRadioDeluxe and linear
birds. I have heard on several occasions that HRD and its associated
satellite tracking module works fine for FM birds but not for linear birds.
Can someone please clarify what the actual issue is? I currently have HRD
version 6X and I am looking to purchase an IC9100 to mate it with. I have
contacted the HRD support folks, but the answer I get is: "not sure, try
it". Well, I don't have the IC9100 yet so I can't try it.
>> I have permission from my local AES outlet store to connect up my laptop
to one of there IC9100 before I buy it. So, I need to know what the actual
problem is with HRD and linear birds so I can try it in person.
>> I hope to get to the bottom of this once and for all.thanks in advance
for anyone that wants to jump in on this.
>>
>> Michael Vivona
>> Sent from my iPad
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
Opinions expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
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