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Today's Topics:
1. AMSAT: 7th Annual Golden Packet Attempt 18 July 2015
(Robert Bruninga)
2. Re: HRD and linear birds (Mvivona)
3. Re: HRD and linear birds (Andrew Glasbrenner)
4. Re: HRD and linear birds (Paul Stoetzer)
5. Re: HRD and linear birds (Fraser Bonnett)
6. Re: HRD and linear birds (Mvivona)
7. HRD and linear birds (Nicholas Mahr)
8. Re: HRD and linear birds (Vince Fiscus, KB7ADL)
9. Re: HRD and linear birds (Mvivona)
10. AO-7 (Joe)
11. Re: AO-7 (Paul Stoetzer)
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 16:45:17 -0400
From: Robert Bruninga <bruninga@xxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT: 7th Annual Golden Packet Attempt 18 July
2015
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AMSAT: Can?t get enough of the bugs at Field Day? Then take 3 weeks to
recuperate and join us:
The 7th annual attempt to do APRS contacts along the 2000 mile path along
the Appalachians using 14 hops will be Saturday 18 July. Last year was the
first end-to-end success. This year we plan a repeat, plus, DX branches
off to other ?trails? and into Canada will be considered.
We still have some gaps in Commitments to the 14 main-line stations:
AL. Huntsville - ?
TN. Lookout Mtn - ?
GA. Springer - Glenn, N4AZR
TN. Clingman?s Dome - Larry, K4AEC
NC. Roan Mtn - Dave, K4KWL
VA. Comers Rock - Zack, KJ4LQP + VTARA
VA. AO Mtn - ?
VA. VA Mtn - ?
MD. MD Mtns ? Mike George
PA. GD Hill ? Bob, WB4APR
PA. Camelback - ?
NY. Sam?s Pt - ?
MA. Greylock - WECA, WA1PLE
MA. Equinox - ?
VT. Mt-Wash - John, NT1I
ME. Sugarloaf - John, WA1KLI
ME. Katahden - ?
We do ?not- generally encourage other local digis as they QRM the DX
packets which are vulnerable enough as it is. But we will consider
branches going off at least 100 miles or to exciting places. We operate
NOT on the national 144.39 APRS channel so that we avoid the wall-to-wall
QRM. The event lasts a minimum of 4 hours starting at noon until success.
See the web page: http://aprs.org/at-golden-packet.html
Further we would like to ecnourage other groups across the USA to try to
activate any of the other 50,000 linear miles of hiking trails in the USA
such as the Pacific Coast Trail, and Intercontinental trails, or
Lewis-and-Clark trail, Pony Express?, First Telegraph route to Calif, etc?
Also don?t forget the same date/time is Scouting?s Operation On-Target
where scouts and hams take to the mountain tops to try to make contact with
signal mirrors. Team up with a group and show off ham radio.
Bob, WB4APR
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 16:55:54 -0400
From: Mvivona <Mvivona@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Andrew Glasbrenner <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>, Paul Stoetzer
<n8hm@xxxx.xxx>, "Vivona, Michael \(CMG-Orlando\)"
<michael.vivona@xxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] HRD and linear birds
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Thanks Andrew,
OK, so the test would be for me to wait for a pass of an SSB bird like
FO-29. Let HRD take control of the transceiver, manually override till I
hear my return. Then let HRD take over and see if it holds the Doppler
offset lock for the entire pass. Is that the test Andrew?
Michael Vivona
Sent from my iPad
On Jun 24, 2015, at 2:17 PM, Andrew Glasbrenner <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
wrote:
In my case, from hearing a dozen+ ops try it on the air. The tuning does not
update the frequencies fast enough for use on SSB. In every case I've been
involved with, switching to SatPC32 solved the problem. $45 for SatPC32 will
make that $2500 radio sing on the transponders.
73, Drew KO4MA
Sent from my iPhone
> On Jun 24, 2015, at 2:00 PM, Mvivona via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
wrote:
>
> I'm confused. How do you know it doesn't work if you don't know what the
issue is? Just sayin'.
>
> Michael Vivona
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Jun 24, 2015, at 1:41 PM, Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
> The automatic Doppler control does not work properly. I've never tried
> it, so I'm not sure what the actual issue is.
>
> SatPC32 is the way to go for computer control on the linear transponders.
>
> 73,
>
> Paul, N8HM
>
> On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 12:43 PM, Vivona, Michael (CMG-Orlando)
> <michael.vivona@xxxx.xxx> wrote:
>> I am trying to get a clarification about using HamRadioDeluxe and linear
birds. I have heard on several occasions that HRD and its associated
satellite tracking module works fine for FM birds but not for linear birds.
Can someone please clarify what the actual issue is? I currently have HRD
version 6X and I am looking to purchase an IC9100 to mate it with. I have
contacted the HRD support folks, but the answer I get is: "not sure, try
it". Well, I don't have the IC9100 yet so I can't try it.
>> I have permission from my local AES outlet store to connect up my laptop
to one of there IC9100 before I buy it. So, I need to know what the actual
problem is with HRD and linear birds so I can try it in person.
>> I hope to get to the bottom of this once and for all.thanks in advance
for anyone that wants to jump in on this.
>>
>> Michael Vivona
>> Sent from my iPad
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 17:09:37 -0400
From: Andrew Glasbrenner <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: Mvivona <Mvivona@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>, Paul Stoetzer
<n8hm@xxxx.xxx>, "Vivona, Michael \(CMG-Orlando\)"
<michael.vivona@xxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] HRD and linear birds
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Repeated over a few high elevation passes, actually working stations. It may
work for you.
Don't get me wrong, I like HRD. I used it last night with my IC-910 to work
2m Eskip remotely while out of town. However, I don't know a single active
transponder op that uses it successfully. I invite them to step forward and
speak up.
Myself, the response from HRD you got would give me significant pause. On
the other hand the author of SatPC32 is an active participant here, and has
provided outstanding, even custom, support.
73, Drew KO4MA
Sent from my iPhone
> On Jun 24, 2015, at 4:55 PM, Mvivona <Mvivona@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
> Thanks Andrew,
> OK, so the test would be for me to wait for a pass of an SSB bird like
FO-29. Let HRD take control of the transceiver, manually override till I
hear my return. Then let HRD take over and see if it holds the Doppler
offset lock for the entire pass. Is that the test Andrew?
>
> Michael Vivona
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Jun 24, 2015, at 2:17 PM, Andrew Glasbrenner
<glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
> In my case, from hearing a dozen+ ops try it on the air. The tuning does
not update the frequencies fast enough for use on SSB. In every case I've
been involved with, switching to SatPC32 solved the problem. $45 for SatPC32
will make that $2500 radio sing on the transponders.
>
> 73, Drew KO4MA
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jun 24, 2015, at 2:00 PM, Mvivona via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
wrote:
>>
>> I'm confused. How do you know it doesn't work if you don't know what the
issue is? Just sayin'.
>>
>> Michael Vivona
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Jun 24, 2015, at 1:41 PM, Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx> wrote:
>>
>> The automatic Doppler control does not work properly. I've never tried
>> it, so I'm not sure what the actual issue is.
>>
>> SatPC32 is the way to go for computer control on the linear transponders.
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Paul, N8HM
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 12:43 PM, Vivona, Michael (CMG-Orlando)
>> <michael.vivona@xxxx.xxx> wrote:
>>> I am trying to get a clarification about using HamRadioDeluxe and linear
birds. I have heard on several occasions that HRD and its associated
satellite tracking module works fine for FM birds but not for linear birds.
Can someone please clarify what the actual issue is? I currently have HRD
version 6X and I am looking to purchase an IC9100 to mate it with. I have
contacted the HRD support folks, but the answer I get is: "not sure, try
it". Well, I don't have the IC9100 yet so I can't try it.
>>> I have permission from my local AES outlet store to connect up my laptop
to one of there IC9100 before I buy it. So, I need to know what the actual
problem is with HRD and linear birds so I can try it in person.
>>> I hope to get to the bottom of this once and for all.thanks in advance
for anyone that wants to jump in on this.
>>>
>>> Michael Vivona
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
Opinions expressed
>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
Opinions expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
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>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
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>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 17:14:35 -0400
From: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx>
To: Andrew Glasbrenner <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>, "Vivona, Michael
\(CMG-Orlando\)" <michael.vivona@xxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] HRD and linear birds
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Even if you were to test it at AES, I doubt they have adequate
antennas (and, even more importantly, feedline) set up for decent
satellite reception, so it may not make a good test.
May I ask why you are so eager to use HRD for this purpose? An IC-9100
is probably the best satellite transceiver on the market and many hams
use them very successfully as part of a fully computer controlled
satellite station - with SatPC32.
73,
Paul, N8HM
On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 5:09 PM, Andrew Glasbrenner
<glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> Repeated over a few high elevation passes, actually working stations. It
may work for you.
>
> Don't get me wrong, I like HRD. I used it last night with my IC-910 to
work 2m Eskip remotely while out of town. However, I don't know a single
active transponder op that uses it successfully. I invite them to step
forward and speak up.
>
> Myself, the response from HRD you got would give me significant pause. On
the other hand the author of SatPC32 is an active participant here, and has
provided outstanding, even custom, support.
>
> 73, Drew KO4MA
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jun 24, 2015, at 4:55 PM, Mvivona <Mvivona@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Andrew,
>> OK, so the test would be for me to wait for a pass of an SSB bird like
FO-29. Let HRD take control of the transceiver, manually override till I
hear my return. Then let HRD take over and see if it holds the Doppler
offset lock for the entire pass. Is that the test Andrew?
>>
>> Michael Vivona
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Jun 24, 2015, at 2:17 PM, Andrew Glasbrenner
<glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>>
>> In my case, from hearing a dozen+ ops try it on the air. The tuning does
not update the frequencies fast enough for use on SSB. In every case I've
been involved with, switching to SatPC32 solved the problem. $45 for SatPC32
will make that $2500 radio sing on the transponders.
>>
>> 73, Drew KO4MA
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Jun 24, 2015, at 2:00 PM, Mvivona via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm confused. How do you know it doesn't work if you don't know what the
issue is? Just sayin'.
>>>
>>> Michael Vivona
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>> On Jun 24, 2015, at 1:41 PM, Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx> wrote:
>>>
>>> The automatic Doppler control does not work properly. I've never tried
>>> it, so I'm not sure what the actual issue is.
>>>
>>> SatPC32 is the way to go for computer control on the linear transponders.
>>>
>>> 73,
>>>
>>> Paul, N8HM
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 12:43 PM, Vivona, Michael (CMG-Orlando)
>>> <michael.vivona@xxxx.xxx> wrote:
>>>> I am trying to get a clarification about using HamRadioDeluxe and
linear birds. I have heard on several occasions that HRD and its associated
satellite tracking module works fine for FM birds but not for linear birds.
Can someone please clarify what the actual issue is? I currently have HRD
version 6X and I am looking to purchase an IC9100 to mate it with. I have
contacted the HRD support folks, but the answer I get is: "not sure, try
it". Well, I don't have the IC9100 yet so I can't try it.
>>>> I have permission from my local AES outlet store to connect up my
laptop to one of there IC9100 before I buy it. So, I need to know what the
actual problem is with HRD and linear birds so I can try it in person.
>>>> I hope to get to the bottom of this once and for all.thanks in advance
for anyone that wants to jump in on this.
>>>>
>>>> Michael Vivona
>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
Opinions expressed
>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
of AMSAT-NA.
>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
program!
>>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 17:23:01 -0400
From: "Fraser Bonnett" <FraserBonnett@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] HRD and linear birds
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I have an IC-9100 and tried for quite a while to get it to work with the
HRD. I do not want to disparage HRD at all, I use it for all my HF work,
it's a fantastic suite of software. However, the Satellite part just isn't
up to the same level that the rest of it is. From my tribulations with HRD
and my IC-9100, I can say:
1. It works for tracking satellite beacons and NOAA weather sats just
fine. Doppler correction works quite well
2. It doesn't support tones so you can't use it on SO-50 unless you
edit the tone after HRD takes over the CAT, something I couldn't figure out
3. It could possibly work with linear transponders if you could figure
out how to adjust the offsets. This is extremely difficult to do in HRD,
and something I could never manage to get right.
4. Finally asking a question in the Satellite sub-forum on the support
site never elicits any response, probably because no-one is using it.
So, like everyone else suggested, I switched to SatPC32 and it works with
the IC-9100 perfectly.
73, Fraser, W3UTD
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 17:58:54 -0400
From: Mvivona <Mvivona@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx>
Cc: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>, "Vivona, Michael
\(CMG-Orlando\)" <michael.vivona@xxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] HRD and linear birds
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Paul,
I am only giving my humble opinion here, but to answer your question of why
I want to use HRD over SatPC32.
After using both, my conclusions are that they are not even in the same class.
HRD is a one stop full integrated software suite for everything a ham could
ever need. Logbook with synchronized web call lookup, digital mode module,
satellite module, mapping that visually shows all your logbook contacts, rig
control, remote access, rotor control, dual radio sync, built in solar cycle
progression, DX cluster window, built in calendar, fully configurable user
layouts throughout the entire suite.
SatPC32 is a satellite tracking program that has rig control via the sat
window, and rotor control. It to me is quite clunky and has that old timey
DOS look and feel.
Please, I don't want this to turn into a pi$$ing match. I am just trying to
be as true to myself as I can. Me being a life long systems administrator
and programmer have watched the upward progression of HRD over the years and
have been in awe with everything Simon has accomplished. If what I'm hearing
is that I just have to use SatPC32 for linear birds, then so be it. At the
same time I am also hearing from many users that they only use SatPC32 or
HRD just to track, but actually run their rigs by hand for the Doppler
offset. So, maybe it's a moot point, I don't know?
I really want to thank you guys for all your input in making me a better
operator.
Michael Vivona
KC4ZVA
Sent from my iPad
On Jun 24, 2015, at 5:14 PM, Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx> wrote:
Even if you were to test it at AES, I doubt they have adequate
antennas (and, even more importantly, feedline) set up for decent
satellite reception, so it may not make a good test.
May I ask why you are so eager to use HRD for this purpose? An IC-9100
is probably the best satellite transceiver on the market and many hams
use them very successfully as part of a fully computer controlled
satellite station - with SatPC32.
73,
Paul, N8HM
On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 5:09 PM, Andrew Glasbrenner
<glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> Repeated over a few high elevation passes, actually working stations. It
may work for you.
>
> Don't get me wrong, I like HRD. I used it last night with my IC-910 to
work 2m Eskip remotely while out of town. However, I don't know a single
active transponder op that uses it successfully. I invite them to step
forward and speak up.
>
> Myself, the response from HRD you got would give me significant pause. On
the other hand the author of SatPC32 is an active participant here, and has
provided outstanding, even custom, support.
>
> 73, Drew KO4MA
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jun 24, 2015, at 4:55 PM, Mvivona <Mvivona@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Andrew,
>> OK, so the test would be for me to wait for a pass of an SSB bird like
FO-29. Let HRD take control of the transceiver, manually override till I
hear my return. Then let HRD take over and see if it holds the Doppler
offset lock for the entire pass. Is that the test Andrew?
>>
>> Michael Vivona
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Jun 24, 2015, at 2:17 PM, Andrew Glasbrenner
<glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>>
>> In my case, from hearing a dozen+ ops try it on the air. The tuning does
not update the frequencies fast enough for use on SSB. In every case I've
been involved with, switching to SatPC32 solved the problem. $45 for SatPC32
will make that $2500 radio sing on the transponders.
>>
>> 73, Drew KO4MA
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Jun 24, 2015, at 2:00 PM, Mvivona via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm confused. How do you know it doesn't work if you don't know what the
issue is? Just sayin'.
>>>
>>> Michael Vivona
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>> On Jun 24, 2015, at 1:41 PM, Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx> wrote:
>>>
>>> The automatic Doppler control does not work properly. I've never tried
>>> it, so I'm not sure what the actual issue is.
>>>
>>> SatPC32 is the way to go for computer control on the linear transponders.
>>>
>>> 73,
>>>
>>> Paul, N8HM
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 12:43 PM, Vivona, Michael (CMG-Orlando)
>>> <michael.vivona@xxxx.xxx> wrote:
>>>> I am trying to get a clarification about using HamRadioDeluxe and
linear birds. I have heard on several occasions that HRD and its associated
satellite tracking module works fine for FM birds but not for linear birds.
Can someone please clarify what the actual issue is? I currently have HRD
version 6X and I am looking to purchase an IC9100 to mate it with. I have
contacted the HRD support folks, but the answer I get is: "not sure, try
it". Well, I don't have the IC9100 yet so I can't try it.
>>>> I have permission from my local AES outlet store to connect up my
laptop to one of there IC9100 before I buy it. So, I need to know what the
actual problem is with HRD and linear birds so I can try it in person.
>>>> I hope to get to the bottom of this once and for all.thanks in advance
for anyone that wants to jump in on this.
>>>>
>>>> Michael Vivona
>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
Opinions expressed
>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
of AMSAT-NA.
>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
program!
>>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
Opinions expressed
>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 18:05:33 -0400
From: Nicholas Mahr <nicholasmahr1@xxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] HRD and linear birds
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Hello,
Instead of fussing with automatic dopper control, I would honestly just do
manual tuning, I think its superior to automatic, if you have alot of
experience with manual tuning. I wouldent mess with HRD, Just use
SatPC32... As for tracking I recemmend Nova For Windows, flawless 3D
software!
73 KE8AKW
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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 17:19:58 -0600
From: "Vince Fiscus, KB7ADL" <vlfiscus@xxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] HRD and linear birds
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At 05:58 PM 6/24/2015 -0400, Mvivona <Mvivona@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>Paul,
>I am only giving my humble opinion here, but to answer your question of
>why I want to use HRD over SatPC32.
>After using both, my conclusions are that they are not even in the same
>class.
>
>HRD is a one stop full integrated software suite for everything a ham
>could ever need. Logbook with synchronized web call lookup, digital mode
>module, satellite module, mapping that visually shows all your logbook
>contacts, rig control, remote access, rotor control, dual radio sync,
>built in solar cycle progression, DX cluster window, built in calendar,
>fully configurable user layouts throughout the entire suite.
>
>SatPC32 is a satellite tracking program that has rig control via the sat
>window, and rotor control. It to me is quite clunky and has that old timey
>DOS look and feel.
>
>Please, I don't want this to turn into a pi$$ing match. I am just trying
>to be as true to myself as I can. Me being a life long systems
>administrator and programmer have watched the upward progression of HRD
>over the years and have been in awe with everything Simon has
>accomplished. If what I'm hearing is that I just have to use SatPC32 for
>linear birds, then so be it. At the same time I am also hearing from many
>users that they only use SatPC32 or HRD just to track, but actually run
>their rigs by hand for the Doppler offset. So, maybe it's a moot point, I
>don't know?
>
>I really want to thank you guys for all your input in making me a better
>operator.
>
>Michael
And to think I still use InstantTrack and two fingers....
with success.
>Ducking<
KB7ADL
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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 18:17:57 -0400
From: Mvivona <Mvivona@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Nicholas Mahr <nicholasmahr1@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] HRD and linear birds
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Thanks Nicholas,
I think you are spot on.
I guess I was hoping for a perfect answer, but it sounds like most users
tune it manually and use SatPC32 or other program of choice just to track
the bird and control the rotor.
Michael Vivona
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On Jun 24, 2015, at 6:05 PM, Nicholas Mahr <nicholasmahr1@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
Hello,
Instead of fussing with automatic dopper control, I would honestly just do
manual tuning, I think its superior to automatic, if you have alot of
experience with manual tuning. I wouldent mess with HRD, Just use
SatPC32... As for tracking I recemmend Nova For Windows, flawless 3D
software!
73 KE8AKW
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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 17:21:48 -0500
From: Joe <nss@xxx.xxx>
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Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-7
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This has peaked my interest in this old bird.
Is there a schedule someplace that I can view to know when it will be in
mode "A"?
Joe WB9SBD
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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 18:27:40 -0400
From: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx>
To: Joe <nss@xxx.xxx>
Cc: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-7
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No. When the satellite powers up after losing power in eclipse, it
comes up by default in Mode B and pretty much enters Mode A randomly,
usually when someone transmits with too much power, causing a voltage
drop that causes the satellite to switch modes.
When the satellite is in constant sunlight, it does switch between
Mode A and Mode B every 24 hours, but there are never very many users
of Mode A.
Between October and December of this year, this will be the case and
Mode A should be available every other day, but after that, AO-7 will
not be in constant sunlight for many years.
73,
Paul, N8HM
On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 6:21 PM, Joe <nss@xxx.xxx> wrote:
> This has peaked my interest in this old bird.
> Is there a schedule someplace that I can view to know when it will be in
> mode "A"?
>
> Joe WB9SBD
> --
> Sig
> The Original Rolling Ball Clock
> Idle Tyme
> Idle-Tyme.com
> http://www.idle-tyme.com
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